Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice

2017-08-08 Thread tom holloman 
Everybody has their own priorities. That's what makes the world interesting. I 
just didn't buy a Porsche. 

> On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:35 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <harr...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> No matter, I’m not putting thousands of  out for a TV. 
> 
> I’m quite happy with my Samsung Smart TVs.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 11:58 AM, eugene.wi...@conagra.com wrote:
>> 
>> Its going to take a while.:)
>>  
>> From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
>> [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of Harry 
>> Jacobson-Beyer
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:34 AM
>> To: Topics Macintosh computers related to Apple and
>> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice
>>  
>> I think I’ll wait till prices come down to current levels of current Samsung 
>> models. 
>>  
>>  
>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:24 AM, eugene.wi...@conagra.com wrote:
>>  
>> Biggest problem with oled is low yield on production so high prices and low 
>> output. The reason Apple is making a iPhone pro this year. They could not 
>> get enough panels to do a basic iPhone model.
>>  
>> From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
>> [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of tom holloman
>> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 8:48 PM
>> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers
>> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice
>>  
>> Best picture ever. More than likely iPhone 8 will have it.
>>  
>> https://www.consumerreports.org/lcd-led-oled-tvs/2016-LG-4K-oled-tvs/
>> 
>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <harr...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> What is “oled tv”?
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 5:25 PM, tom holloman <chuba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  
>> I have all louisville and Oahu news apps but would like to get directly to 
>> oled tv without streaming.
>>  
>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <harr...@me.com> wrote:
>>  
>> That’s cause you live in the middle of the Ocean. :-)
>>  
>> CBS has an all access channel but doubt they would have local 
>> news/programming. I would check with your local stations - I’m sure they all 
>> have an online presence. I know the local channels here in Louisville all 
>> have apps, though I haven’t downloaded them.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:12 PM, tom holloman <chuba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  
>> Any way get local channels on line ? Don't mind paying but can get none with 
>> roof antenna
>> Tom
>>  
>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:13 AM, MICHAEL ROBERTSON <mikef...@me.com> wrote:
>>  
>> There is a PBS app for apple tv, probably for the amazon fire as well. You 
>> have to make a at least $60 donation to KET to get access to the shows under 
>> the “Passport” designation. Then you can watch most any of the Masterpiece 
>> shows.
>> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
>> <tha...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>  
>> I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched was 
>> KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now I just 
>> have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece shows. I don't 
>> know what sling TV carries but will check.
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Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice

2017-08-08 Thread John Robinson 
I don’t blame you, they are great.  I have many of them in our home and they 
aren’t near as nice as the ones they offer today…none of mine are even 4k as I 
didn’t have a sound system to go with the 4k..now Bose has come out with a much 
better Theater system but so far they are not allowing a trade-in on the older 
systems as they have always done in the past….I’ll wait until the new wears off 
and they come to their senses.



> On Aug 8, 2017, at 2:35 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <harr...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> No matter, I’m not putting thousands of  out for a TV. 
> 
> I’m quite happy with my Samsung Smart TVs.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 11:58 AM, eugene.wi...@conagra.com 
>> <mailto:eugene.wi...@conagra.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Its going to take a while.:)
>>  
>> From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
>> <mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu> 
>> [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
>> <mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu>] On Behalf Of Harry 
>> Jacobson-Beyer
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:34 AM
>> To: Topics Macintosh computers related to Apple and
>> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice
>>  
>> I think I’ll wait till prices come down to current levels of current Samsung 
>> models. 
>>  
>>  
>> On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:24 AM, eugene.wi...@conagra.com 
>> <mailto:eugene.wi...@conagra.com> wrote:
>>  
>> Biggest problem with oled is low yield on production so high prices and low 
>> output. The reason Apple is making a iPhone pro this year. They could not 
>> get enough panels to do a basic iPhone model.
>>  
>> From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
>> <mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu> 
>> [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
>> <mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu>] On Behalf Of tom 
>> holloman
>> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 8:48 PM
>> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers
>> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice
>>  
>> Best picture ever. More than likely iPhone 8 will have it.
>>  
>> https://www.consumerreports.org/lcd-led-oled-tvs/2016-LG-4K-oled-tvs/ 
>> <https://www.consumerreports.org/lcd-led-oled-tvs/2016-LG-4K-oled-tvs/>
>> 
>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <harr...@me.com 
>> <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> What is “oled tv”?
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 5:25 PM, tom holloman <chuba...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:chuba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> I have all louisville and Oahu news apps but would like to get directly to 
>> oled tv without streaming.
>>  
>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <harr...@me.com 
>> <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> That’s cause you live in the middle of the Ocean. :-)
>>  
>> CBS has an all access channel but doubt they would have local 
>> news/programming. I would check with your local stations - I’m sure they all 
>> have an online presence. I know the local channels here in Louisville all 
>> have apps, though I haven’t downloaded them.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:12 PM, tom holloman <chuba...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:chuba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Any way get local channels on line ? Don't mind paying but can get none with 
>> roof antenna
>> Tom
>>  
>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:13 AM, MICHAEL ROBERTSON <mikef...@me.com 
>> <mailto:mikef...@me.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> There is a PBS app for apple tv, probably for the amazon fire as well. You 
>> have to make a at least $60 donation to KET to get access to the shows under 
>> the “Passport” designation. Then you can watch most any of the Masterpiece 
>> shows.
>> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
>> <tha...@yahoo.com <mailto:tha...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched was 
>> KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now I just 
>> have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece shows. I don't 
>> know what sling TV carries but will check.
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Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice

2017-08-08 Thread Harry Jacobson-Beyer 
No matter, I’m not putting thousands of  out for a TV. 

I’m quite happy with my Samsung Smart TVs.


> On Aug 8, 2017, at 11:58 AM, eugene.wi...@conagra.com wrote:
> 
> Its going to take a while.:)
>  
> From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
> <mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu> 
> [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
> <mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu>] On Behalf Of Harry 
> Jacobson-Beyer
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:34 AM
> To: Topics Macintosh computers related to Apple and
> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice
>  
> I think I’ll wait till prices come down to current levels of current Samsung 
> models. 
>  
>  
> On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:24 AM, eugene.wi...@conagra.com 
> <mailto:eugene.wi...@conagra.com> wrote:
>  
> Biggest problem with oled is low yield on production so high prices and low 
> output. The reason Apple is making a iPhone pro this year. They could not get 
> enough panels to do a basic iPhone model.
>  
> From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
> <mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu> 
> [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
> <mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu>] On Behalf Of tom holloman
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 8:48 PM
> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers
> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice
>  
> Best picture ever. More than likely iPhone 8 will have it.
>  
> https://www.consumerreports.org/lcd-led-oled-tvs/2016-LG-4K-oled-tvs/ 
> <https://www.consumerreports.org/lcd-led-oled-tvs/2016-LG-4K-oled-tvs/>
> 
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <harr...@me.com 
> <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
> 
> What is “oled tv”?
> 
> 
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 5:25 PM, tom holloman <chuba...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:chuba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> I have all louisville and Oahu news apps but would like to get directly to 
> oled tv without streaming.
>  
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <harr...@me.com 
> <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
>  
> That’s cause you live in the middle of the Ocean. :-)
>  
> CBS has an all access channel but doubt they would have local 
> news/programming. I would check with your local stations - I’m sure they all 
> have an online presence. I know the local channels here in Louisville all 
> have apps, though I haven’t downloaded them.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:12 PM, tom holloman <chuba...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:chuba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> Any way get local channels on line ? Don't mind paying but can get none with 
> roof antenna
> Tom
>  
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:13 AM, MICHAEL ROBERTSON <mikef...@me.com 
> <mailto:mikef...@me.com>> wrote:
>  
> There is a PBS app for apple tv, probably for the amazon fire as well. You 
> have to make a at least $60 donation to KET to get access to the shows under 
> the “Passport” designation. Then you can watch most any of the Masterpiece 
> shows.
> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
> <tha...@yahoo.com <mailto:tha...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>  
> I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched was 
> KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now I just 
> have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece shows. I don't 
> know what sling TV carries but will check.
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Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice

2017-08-08 Thread John Robinson 
Harry, by the time that happens there will be a glass highly superior to OLED 
and the fad will be to the newer technology….indeed maybe our TV will be simply 
Augmented TV that we will open inside the bathroom, the passenger side of the 
car, hundreds of people on the subway each watching a different TV with NO 
glass…..

if you watched the video of AR that I sent a few days ago it’s obviously going 
to be a different world we live in VERY shortly…with the AR Kit Apple has given 
to developers our Apps are REALLY going to change, and quickly.

Apple is instantly going to become the most populous AR platform on the 
planet….in the video the desktop was in “thin air”, the monitors had been 
removed, everyone opened an AR desktop, had several programs open at once, all 
spread around them in thin air…the “key” is going to be the “glasses”  If Apple 
can come up with  glasses as unobtrusive as wearing earbuds…..it will become a 
new world…

Every so often Rush Limbaugh will get off on Apple, a company he loves.  I 
heard him go on a tear this past week, talking about all the forthcoming 
technologies they are working on…and IF indeed Apple (which is supposedly 
waiting on FDA approval) has a watch that will test blood glucose….as he said, 
whomever accomplishes this….well, they will be able to buy anything they 
want….Apple stock will double….

Much to be excited about….

John


> 
> Its going to take a while.:)
>  
> From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
> <mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu> 
> [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
> <mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu>] On Behalf Of Harry 
> Jacobson-Beyer
> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:34 AM
> To: Topics Macintosh computers related to Apple and
> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice
>  
> I think I’ll wait till prices come down to current levels of current Samsung 
> models. 
>  
>  
> On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:24 AM, eugene.wi...@conagra.com 
> <mailto:eugene.wi...@conagra.com> wrote:
>  
> Biggest problem with oled is low yield on production so high prices and low 
> output. The reason Apple is making a iPhone pro this year. They could not get 
> enough panels to do a basic iPhone model.
>  
> From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
> <mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu> 
> [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
> <mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu>] On Behalf Of tom holloman
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 8:48 PM
> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers
> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice
>  
> Best picture ever. More than likely iPhone 8 will have it.
>  
> https://www.consumerreports.org/lcd-led-oled-tvs/2016-LG-4K-oled-tvs/ 
> <https://www.consumerreports.org/lcd-led-oled-tvs/2016-LG-4K-oled-tvs/>
> 
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <harr...@me.com 
> <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
> 
> What is “oled tv”?
> 
> 
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 5:25 PM, tom holloman <chuba...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:chuba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> I have all louisville and Oahu news apps but would like to get directly to 
> oled tv without streaming.
>  
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <harr...@me.com 
> <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
>  
> That’s cause you live in the middle of the Ocean. :-)
>  
> CBS has an all access channel but doubt they would have local 
> news/programming. I would check with your local stations - I’m sure they all 
> have an online presence. I know the local channels here in Louisville all 
> have apps, though I haven’t downloaded them.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:12 PM, tom holloman <chuba...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:chuba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> Any way get local channels on line ? Don't mind paying but can get none with 
> roof antenna
> Tom
>  
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:13 AM, MICHAEL ROBERTSON <mikef...@me.com 
> <mailto:mikef...@me.com>> wrote:
>  
> There is a PBS app for apple tv, probably for the amazon fire as well. You 
> have to make a at least $60 donation to KET to get access to the shows under 
> the “Passport” designation. Then you can watch most any of the Masterpiece 
> shows.
> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
> <tha...@yahoo.com <mailto:tha...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>  
> I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched was 
> KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now I just 
> have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece shows. I don't 
> know what sling TV carries but will check.
> __

Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice

2017-08-08 Thread eugene.wi...@conagra.com 
Its going to take a while.:)

From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
[mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of Harry 
Jacobson-Beyer
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 9:34 AM
To: Topics Macintosh computers related to Apple and
Subject: Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice

I think I’ll wait till prices come down to current levels of current Samsung 
models.


On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:24 AM, 
eugene.wi...@conagra.com<mailto:eugene.wi...@conagra.com> wrote:

Biggest problem with oled is low yield on production so high prices and low 
output. The reason Apple is making a iPhone pro this year. They could not get 
enough panels to do a basic iPhone model.

From: 
macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu<mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu>
 [mailto:macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu] On Behalf Of tom holloman
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 8:48 PM
To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers
Subject: Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice

Best picture ever. More than likely iPhone 8 will have it.

https://www.consumerreports.org/lcd-led-oled-tvs/2016-LG-4K-oled-tvs/

On Aug 7, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer 
<harr...@me.com<mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
What is “oled tv”?


On Aug 7, 2017, at 5:25 PM, tom holloman 
<chuba...@gmail.com<mailto:chuba...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have all louisville and Oahu news apps but would like to get directly to oled 
tv without streaming.

On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer 
<harr...@me.com<mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:

That’s cause you live in the middle of the Ocean. :-)

CBS has an all access channel but doubt they would have local news/programming. 
I would check with your local stations - I’m sure they all have an online 
presence. I know the local channels here in Louisville all have apps, though I 
haven’t downloaded them.




On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:12 PM, tom holloman 
<chuba...@gmail.com<mailto:chuba...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Any way get local channels on line ? Don't mind paying but can get none with 
roof antenna
Tom

On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:13 AM, MICHAEL ROBERTSON 
<mikef...@me.com<mailto:mikef...@me.com>> wrote:

There is a PBS app for apple tv, probably for the amazon fire as well. You have 
to make a at least $60 donation to KET to get access to the shows under the 
“Passport” designation. Then you can watch most any of the Masterpiece shows.
On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
<tha...@yahoo.com<mailto:tha...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched was 
KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now I just 
have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece shows. I don't 
know what sling TV carries but will check.
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Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice

2017-08-08 Thread Harry Jacobson-Beyer 
I think I’ll wait till prices come down to current levels of current Samsung 
models. 


> On Aug 8, 2017, at 8:24 AM, eugene.wi...@conagra.com wrote:
> 
> Biggest problem with oled is low yield on production so high prices and low 
> output. The reason Apple is making a iPhone pro this year. They could not get 
> enough panels to do a basic iPhone model.
>  
> From: macgroup-boun...@erdos.math.louisville.edu 
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> Best picture ever. More than likely iPhone 8 will have it.
>  
> https://www.consumerreports.org/lcd-led-oled-tvs/2016-LG-4K-oled-tvs/ 
> <https://www.consumerreports.org/lcd-led-oled-tvs/2016-LG-4K-oled-tvs/>
> 
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <harr...@me.com 
> <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
> 
> What is “oled tv”?
> 
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 5:25 PM, tom holloman <chuba...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:chuba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> I have all louisville and Oahu news apps but would like to get directly to 
> oled tv without streaming.
>  
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <harr...@me.com 
> <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
>  
> That’s cause you live in the middle of the Ocean. :-)
>  
> CBS has an all access channel but doubt they would have local 
> news/programming. I would check with your local stations - I’m sure they all 
> have an online presence. I know the local channels here in Louisville all 
> have apps, though I haven’t downloaded them.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:12 PM, tom holloman <chuba...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:chuba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> Any way get local channels on line ? Don't mind paying but can get none with 
> roof antenna
> Tom
>  
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:13 AM, MICHAEL ROBERTSON <mikef...@me.com 
> <mailto:mikef...@me.com>> wrote:
>  
> There is a PBS app for apple tv, probably for the amazon fire as well. You 
> have to make a at least $60 donation to KET to get access to the shows under 
> the “Passport” designation. Then you can watch most any of the Masterpiece 
> shows.
> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
> <tha...@yahoo.com <mailto:tha...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>  
> I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched was 
> KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now I just 
> have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece shows. I don't 
> know what sling TV carries but will check.
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Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice

2017-08-08 Thread eugene.wi...@conagra.com 
Biggest problem with oled is low yield on production so high prices and low 
output. The reason Apple is making a iPhone pro this year. They could not get 
enough panels to do a basic iPhone model.

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Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 8:48 PM
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Best picture ever. More than likely iPhone 8 will have it.


https://www.consumerreports.org/lcd-led-oled-tvs/2016-LG-4K-oled-tvs/

On Aug 7, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer 
<harr...@me.com<mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:
What is “oled tv”?

On Aug 7, 2017, at 5:25 PM, tom holloman 
<chuba...@gmail.com<mailto:chuba...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I have all louisville and Oahu news apps but would like to get directly to oled 
tv without streaming.

On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer 
<harr...@me.com<mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote:

That’s cause you live in the middle of the Ocean. :-)

CBS has an all access channel but doubt they would have local news/programming. 
I would check with your local stations - I’m sure they all have an online 
presence. I know the local channels here in Louisville all have apps, though I 
haven’t downloaded them.




On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:12 PM, tom holloman 
<chuba...@gmail.com<mailto:chuba...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Any way get local channels on line ? Don't mind paying but can get none with 
roof antenna
Tom

On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:13 AM, MICHAEL ROBERTSON 
<mikef...@me.com<mailto:mikef...@me.com>> wrote:

There is a PBS app for apple tv, probably for the amazon fire as well. You have 
to make a at least $60 donation to KET to get access to the shows under the 
“Passport” designation. Then you can watch most any of the Masterpiece shows.
On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
<tha...@yahoo.com<mailto:tha...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched was 
KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now I just 
have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece shows. I don't 
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Re: [MacGroup] ISP advice

2017-08-07 Thread Tom 
If only roof antenna worked I would be all in

Tom


> On Aug 7, 2017, at 4:36 AM, R. D. Preston  wrote:
> 
> No direct ISP advice to recommend other than just use internet only (no 
> bundled services), so perhaps you could go with some option of SlingTV 
> (https://www.sling.com, basic pkg. is $20 mo.) for non-local programs plus a 
> home digital antenna for local programs (maybe $25), and use a simple cable 
> toggle switch to go back-and-forth between them, unless you like switching 
> cables by hand all the time.
> 
> -russ preston
> 
> 
>> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:06 PM, ANDREW ARNOLD  wrote:
>> 
>> I know the group has discussed services many times, any current 
>> recommendations for ISPs, given all the tricks Spectrum is now playing? I 
>> rec’d a letter this week indicating I would need Receivers for my TVs, which 
>> would be free for 24 months (no indication how much afterward). They also 
>> informed me they are taking away about 20 channels from my very basic cable 
>> TV package. I don’t watch much TV, but still feel violated.
>> 
>> So 3-4 years ago I was paying $89/mo for basic phone, basic cable, and a 
>> lower tier Internet speed. Now I am paying $140/mo for the same package! I 
>> hate the lack of competition these near monopoly cable operators  have. 
>> 
>> Is anyone else upset about these new changes and have current 
>> recommendations?
>> 
>> Thank you
>> Andy
>> 
>> 
>> 
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2017-08-07 Thread tom holloman 
Best picture ever. More than likely iPhone 8 will have it.

https://www.consumerreports.org/lcd-led-oled-tvs/2016-LG-4K-oled-tvs/

> On Aug 7, 2017, at 1:55 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> What is “oled tv”?
>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 5:25 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>> 
>> I have all louisville and Oahu news apps but would like to get directly to 
>> oled tv without streaming. 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That’s cause you live in the middle of the Ocean. :-)
>>> 
>>> CBS has an all access channel but doubt they would have local 
>>> news/programming. I would check with your local stations - I’m sure they 
>>> all have an online presence. I know the local channels here in Louisville 
>>> all have apps, though I haven’t downloaded them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:12 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
 
 Any way get local channels on line ? Don't mind paying but can get none 
 with roof antenna
 Tom
 
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:13 AM, MICHAEL ROBERTSON  wrote:
> 
> There is a PBS app for apple tv, probably for the amazon fire as well. 
> You have to make a at least $60 donation to KET to get access to the 
> shows under the “Passport” designation. Then you can watch most any of 
> the Masterpiece shows.
>> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched 
>> was KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now 
>> I just have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece 
>> shows. I don't know what sling TV carries but will check.
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2017-08-07 Thread Ed Wiser 
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOLED

Latest tech in LCD panels 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 7, 2017, at 7:55 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> What is “oled tv”?
>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 5:25 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>> 
>> I have all louisville and Oahu news apps but would like to get directly to 
>> oled tv without streaming. 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That’s cause you live in the middle of the Ocean. :-)
>>> 
>>> CBS has an all access channel but doubt they would have local 
>>> news/programming. I would check with your local stations - I’m sure they 
>>> all have an online presence. I know the local channels here in Louisville 
>>> all have apps, though I haven’t downloaded them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:12 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
 
 Any way get local channels on line ? Don't mind paying but can get none 
 with roof antenna
 Tom
 
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:13 AM, MICHAEL ROBERTSON  wrote:
> 
> There is a PBS app for apple tv, probably for the amazon fire as well. 
> You have to make a at least $60 donation to KET to get access to the 
> shows under the “Passport” designation. Then you can watch most any of 
> the Masterpiece shows.
>> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched 
>> was KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now 
>> I just have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece 
>> shows. I don't know what sling TV carries but will check.
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2017-08-07 Thread Harry Jacobson-Beyer 
What is “oled tv”?
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 5:25 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
> 
> I have all louisville and Oahu news apps but would like to get directly to 
> oled tv without streaming. 
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
>> 
>> That’s cause you live in the middle of the Ocean. :-)
>> 
>> CBS has an all access channel but doubt they would have local 
>> news/programming. I would check with your local stations - I’m sure they all 
>> have an online presence. I know the local channels here in Louisville all 
>> have apps, though I haven’t downloaded them.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:12 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Any way get local channels on line ? Don't mind paying but can get none 
>>> with roof antenna
>>> Tom
>>> 
 On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:13 AM, MICHAEL ROBERTSON  wrote:
 
 There is a PBS app for apple tv, probably for the amazon fire as well. You 
 have to make a at least $60 donation to KET to get access to the shows 
 under the “Passport” designation. Then you can watch most any of the 
 Masterpiece shows.
> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
>  wrote:
> 
> I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched 
> was KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now 
> I just have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece 
> shows. I don't know what sling TV carries but will check.
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2017-08-07 Thread tom holloman 
I have all louisville and Oahu news apps but would like to get directly to oled 
tv without streaming. 

> On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> That’s cause you live in the middle of the Ocean. :-)
> 
> CBS has an all access channel but doubt they would have local 
> news/programming. I would check with your local stations - I’m sure they all 
> have an online presence. I know the local channels here in Louisville all 
> have apps, though I haven’t downloaded them.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:12 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
>> 
>> Any way get local channels on line ? Don't mind paying but can get none with 
>> roof antenna
>> Tom
>> 
>>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:13 AM, MICHAEL ROBERTSON  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is a PBS app for apple tv, probably for the amazon fire as well. You 
>>> have to make a at least $60 donation to KET to get access to the shows 
>>> under the “Passport” designation. Then you can watch most any of the 
>>> Masterpiece shows.
 On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
  wrote:
 
 I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched 
 was KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now I 
 just have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece shows. I 
 don't know what sling TV carries but will check.
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2017-08-07 Thread Harry Jacobson-Beyer 
That’s cause you live in the middle of the Ocean. :-)

CBS has an all access channel but doubt they would have local news/programming. 
I would check with your local stations - I’m sure they all have an online 
presence. I know the local channels here in Louisville all have apps, though I 
haven’t downloaded them.




> On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:12 PM, tom holloman  wrote:
> 
> Any way get local channels on line ? Don't mind paying but can get none with 
> roof antenna
> Tom
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:13 AM, MICHAEL ROBERTSON  wrote:
>> 
>> There is a PBS app for apple tv, probably for the amazon fire as well. You 
>> have to make a at least $60 donation to KET to get access to the shows under 
>> the “Passport” designation. Then you can watch most any of the Masterpiece 
>> shows.
>>> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched 
>>> was KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now I 
>>> just have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece shows. I 
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2017-08-07 Thread tom holloman 
Any way get local channels on line ? Don't mind paying but can get none with 
roof antenna
Tom

> On Aug 7, 2017, at 3:13 AM, MICHAEL ROBERTSON  wrote:
> 
> There is a PBS app for apple tv, probably for the amazon fire as well. You 
> have to make a at least $60 donation to KET to get access to the shows under 
> the “Passport” designation. Then you can watch most any of the Masterpiece 
> shows.
>> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched was 
>> KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now I just 
>> have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece shows. I don't 
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2017-08-07 Thread MICHAEL ROBERTSON 
Thats fine if its current shows. Not if you want to see something from the 
recent past.
> On Aug 7, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer  wrote:
> 
> I get KET (Local PBS Station) over the Air through my roof top antenna.
> 
> 
>> On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:13 AM, MICHAEL ROBERTSON  wrote:
>> 
>> There is a PBS app for apple tv, probably for the amazon fire as well. You 
>> have to make a at least $60 donation to KET to get access to the shows under 
>> the “Passport” designation. Then you can watch most any of the Masterpiece 
>> shows.
>>> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
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>>> was KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now I 
>>> just have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece shows. I 
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2017-08-07 Thread Tanya 
Thank you!


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On Monday, August 7, 2017, 10:13:13 AM EDT, Harry Jacobson-Beyer 
 wrote:

I get KET (Local PBS Station) over the Air through my roof top antenna.


> On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:13 AM, MICHAEL ROBERTSON  wrote:
> 
> There is a PBS app for apple tv, probably for the amazon fire as well. You 
> have to make a at least $60 donation to KET to get access to the shows under 
> the “Passport” designation. Then you can watch most any of the Masterpiece 
> shows.
>> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched was 
>> KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now I just 
>> have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece shows. I don't 
>> know what sling TV carries but will check.
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2017-08-07 Thread R. D. Preston 
No direct ISP advice to recommend other than just use internet only (no bundled 
services), so perhaps you could go with some option of SlingTV 
(https://www.sling.com, basic pkg. is $20 mo.) for non-local programs plus a 
home digital antenna for local programs (maybe $25), and use a simple cable 
toggle switch to go back-and-forth between them, unless you like switching 
cables by hand all the time.

-russ preston


> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:06 PM, ANDREW ARNOLD  wrote:
> 
> I know the group has discussed services many times, any current 
> recommendations for ISPs, given all the tricks Spectrum is now playing? I 
> rec’d a letter this week indicating I would need Receivers for my TVs, which 
> would be free for 24 months (no indication how much afterward). They also 
> informed me they are taking away about 20 channels from my very basic cable 
> TV package. I don’t watch much TV, but still feel violated.
> 
> So 3-4 years ago I was paying $89/mo for basic phone, basic cable, and a 
> lower tier Internet speed. Now I am paying $140/mo for the same package! I 
> hate the lack of competition these near monopoly cable operators  have. 
> 
> Is anyone else upset about these new changes and have current recommendations?
> 
> Thank you
> Andy
> 
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2017-08-07 Thread Harry Jacobson-Beyer 
I get KET (Local PBS Station) over the Air through my roof top antenna.


> On Aug 7, 2017, at 9:13 AM, MICHAEL ROBERTSON  wrote:
> 
> There is a PBS app for apple tv, probably for the amazon fire as well. You 
> have to make a at least $60 donation to KET to get access to the shows under 
> the “Passport” designation. Then you can watch most any of the Masterpiece 
> shows.
>> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched was 
>> KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now I just 
>> have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece shows. I don't 
>> know what sling TV carries but will check.
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2017-08-07 Thread Tanya 
Thanks Michael,
Always good to have more information.
p.s. The reason I got rid of my cable was they came to my home to service and 
said hey your box for your tv is 12 years old. I said it works fine. While 
working in my backyard they changed it anyway. I then was no longer able to 
receive on demand and my bill went up from $32.00 to $42.00 for basic and 
received less.
This is why I cut my cable to went to Amazon.


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On Monday, August 7, 2017, 9:13:50 AM EDT, MICHAEL ROBERTSON  
wrote:

There is a PBS app for apple tv, probably for the amazon fire as well. You have 
to make a at least $60 donation to KET to get access to the shows under the 
“Passport” designation. Then you can watch most any of the Masterpiece shows.
> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
>  wrote:
> 
> I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched was 
> KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now I just 
> have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece shows. I don't 
> know what sling TV carries but will check.
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2017-08-07 Thread MICHAEL ROBERTSON 
There is a PBS app for apple tv, probably for the amazon fire as well. You have 
to make a at least $60 donation to KET to get access to the shows under the 
“Passport” designation. Then you can watch most any of the Masterpiece shows.
> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:53 PM, Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
>  wrote:
> 
> I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched was 
> KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now I just 
> have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece shows. I don't 
> know what sling TV carries but will check.
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2017-08-06 Thread Tanya BeliefBustingBreakthroughs 
I too have just cut cable from Spectrum. The only channel I ever watched was KET. I have Amazon prime and got a fire box. Really great shows. Now I just have to figure out how to get KET so I can watch Masterpiece shows. I don't know what sling TV carries but will check.___
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2017-08-06 Thread Harry Jacobson-Beyer 
Cut the cable and put an antenna on your roof, and get subscriptions to a 
couple of services. I use Amazon Prime and get HBO Now to watch Game of Thrones 
and whatever I can squeeze in during the time Thrones is playing. I wish we 
still had video stores to watch older movies. RedBox only has newer ones.


> On Aug 6, 2017, at 11:06 PM, ANDREW ARNOLD  wrote:
> 
> I know the group has discussed services many times, any current 
> recommendations for ISPs, given all the tricks Spectrum is now playing? I 
> rec’d a letter this week indicating I would need Receivers for my TVs, which 
> would be free for 24 months (no indication how much afterward). They also 
> informed me they are taking away about 20 channels from my very basic cable 
> TV package. I don’t watch much TV, but still feel violated.
> 
> So 3-4 years ago I was paying $89/mo for basic phone, basic cable, and a 
> lower tier Internet speed. Now I am paying $140/mo for the same package! I 
> hate the lack of competition these near monopoly cable operators  have. 
> 
> Is anyone else upset about these new changes and have current recommendations?
> 
> Thank you
> Andy
> 
> 
> 
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2017-08-06 Thread ANDREW ARNOLD 
I know the group has discussed services many times, any current recommendations 
for ISPs, given all the tricks Spectrum is now playing? I rec’d a letter this 
week indicating I would need Receivers for my TVs, which would be free for 24 
months (no indication how much afterward). They also informed me they are 
taking away about 20 channels from my very basic cable TV package. I don’t 
watch much TV, but still feel violated.

So 3-4 years ago I was paying $89/mo for basic phone, basic cable, and a lower 
tier Internet speed. Now I am paying $140/mo for the same package! I hate the 
lack of competition these near monopoly cable operators  have. 

Is anyone else upset about these new changes and have current recommendations?

Thank you
Andy





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