Hi,
ISpeak V0.1 is available for free download. It is a very biginning
stage of the operation so don't expect very much.
http://www.vipbc.org/downloads/
Thanks,
Alex,
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we already have this in vo.
On Mar 8, 2009, at 9:59 PM, Martin Pilkington wrote:
Hi Tiffany,
This is exactly what I'm meaning when I talk about a sort of overview
giving a full text description of a window. You could bring it up at
any point and have it read to you. It would be written
The visual ways of doing things re explained but we have full access
via the keyboard to the gui if it is accessible.
On Mar 8, 2009, at 9:43 PM, Tiffany D wrote:
I think it's wonderful what you're doing and I'm with you 100%.
You're setting a great example and considering how Apple is so
this is redundant. the clock is self voicing on the hour for those
who don't need vo to take advantage of it. if I had a mind to, I'm
sure I could write an app to have vo announce te time at peridocic
intervals. The only reason to make an app self voicing is that it
cannot fit into the
it is not possible to do braille display detection for your purposes
on the mac os.
On Mar 8, 2009, at 9:09 PM, Martin Pilkington wrote:
Hi Chris,
I'm not 100% sure whether it is possible to detect whether the user is
using a braille display or not, but I'll definitely look into it. If
You should be talking to greg kearny.
On Mar 8, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Ryan Dour wrote:
As a great example, an app like Boxee would be amazing with self
voicing menus. Boxee is a media center app like FrontRow, but able to
do much more. However, that doesn't help any of us, as it doesn't have
self voicing should never be needed and in all 3rd party cases I've
seen it implemented for the mac os it is disasterous. you only need
look at firevox to understand this.
On Mar 8, 2009, at 8:41 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:
very good points chris, i agree. Though the self voicing option
Martin,
I'd be happy to test any vo compatible apps you develop or that you
know of that are developped. this is 100 ercent accessibility. I
don't know what software you write or have written but would encourage
youto stick to apple accessibility apis and work with apple if
something
Hi all,
we've been discussing self voicing/voice over accessible apps in
another thread but I thought this might be a more compatible subject
line for that discussion.
I wanted to mention an excellent package demonstrating what can be
done on the mac os with regard to vo compatibility and
alex;
what is i speak? i would suggest you put a discription of what file
is what on your /downloads directory and link to the respected files
so those of us who don't know what an application is can read a short
discription about it
with best regards
michael
On Mar 8, 2009, at 10:23 PM,
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De: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com]
En nombre de Alex Jurgensen
Enviado el: lunes, 09 de marzo de 2009 7:23
Para: MacVisionaries
Asunto: ISpeak V0.1 released today
Hi,
Hello
ISpeak V0.1 is available for free download. It
Hi,
Thanks,
Indeed the Downloads folder is a repository if you will. There is a
frontpage, but ISpeak hasn't been added to that frontpage yet.
Thanks,
Alex,
On 8-Mar-09, at 11:59 PM, Michael Babcock wrote:
alex;
what is i speak? i would suggest you put a discription of what file
is
Hi,
This will not work with Voiceover yet until all the requirements in
the ISpeak-0.1/Documentation/READMES/Things That Must Be Done.rtf file
are complete.
Thanks,
Alex,
On 9-Mar-09, at 12:16 AM, Jonathan Chacón wrote:
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De: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Martin, you have certainly covered a number of areas and I am sure you
have already been to Apple's accessibility site,
http://www.apple.com/accessibility
. You can bet this list will be a valuable resource for getting your
questions answered. I will say that it is folks like yourself that
Ryan, excellent description and you are right on target, that was the
point I was trying to make. :)
On Mar 8, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Ryan Dour wrote:
As a great example, an app like Boxee would be amazing with self
voicing menus. Boxee is a media center app like FrontRow, but able
to do much
Chris, although I disagree with you, can you possibly provide a reason
why you would prefer a self-voicing application for a program such as
Safari? Where is the advantage?
On Mar 8, 2009, at 9:26 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
By self voicing I mean, have it so that with voice over not running
Hi,
Excuse me here a moment, but what do we want? Do we want a specially
made program for the blind or an application that both blind and
sighted people alike can use without us stepping on eachothers toes?
You may think this question is silly or such, but i think it's
relevant since what
And why would we want that? Don't you trust in Voiceover to do what a
screen reader is supposed to do?
/Krister
9 mar 2009 kl. 02.26 skrev Chris Gilland:
By self voicing I mean, have it so that with voice over not running
the program would still speak right out of the box. In other
Hi Krister
I'm in full agreement here. Let's not forget what makes the Mac
platform so awesome, the fact that we need not have any additional
program other than Voiceover to provide accessibility, and the fact
that Voiceover is right there for developers to test and with which
they can
This frustrated me for a long while, and when I got it to work I was
happy, so: Be sure to interact with the messages table. Now, to get
to the top of the list, press VO Shift Function left arrow. Replace
with right arrow for the end of the list. Keep in mind, this will
take you to
Hi alex.
So lets have it.:)
what needs too be done is the perl interface and the error while
compiling ?
the next lines kinda gives it self, that is perfectly acceptable for
me but would it be for jane on 14 years old ? not likely.
sandis-macbook-air:ISpeak-0.1 sandi$ ./installer.sh
Password:
El 08/03/2009, a las 23:34, David Poehlman escribió:
look at firevox to understand this.
Or katie player.
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Hi,
Sandy et al,
As the subject inplies the V0.2 version of ISpeak is released with an
uninstaller and a better installer.
http://www.vipbc.org/downloads/ISpeak-0.2.zip
Since this is a developement build I am assuming you have the
Developer tools installed from Apple. All of my systems
WHAT IS THIS I SPEAK
On 9 Mar 2009, at 16:26, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
Sandy et al,
As the subject inplies the V0.2 version of ISpeak is released with an
uninstaller and a better installer.
http://www.vipbc.org/downloads/ISpeak-0.2.zip
Since this is a developement build I am assuming
Hi,
William et al,
ISpeak is the effort to port three Open-Source Speech Engines to the
Mac as native voices.
Festival, Flight, and eSpeak
Thanks,
Alex,
On 9-Mar-09, at 9:29 AM, william lomas wrote:
WHAT IS THIS I SPEAK
On 9 Mar 2009, at 16:26, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
Sandy et
Hi,
in porting all these eSpeak Voices and all to the Mac we at VIPBC.org
want to give you the chance to name them. We need at least one male
and one female name for each language eSpeak/Festival/Flight support.
Please send submitions to asquare...@gmail.com with voicemail
voices in the
Yo.
But but i did not ... it will get changed though.Also my mail came out
quite abit more cold then i intented it sorry bout that :)
Alex in other words im all for it. It is a good reason too reinstall
the lil-mini.
/sandy:)
On Mar 9, 2009, at 9:26 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
Sandy
On Mar 9, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
William et al,
ISpeak is the effort to port three Open-Source Speech Engines to the
Mac as native voices.
Festival, Flight, and eSpeak
Thanks,
Alex,
On 9-Mar-09, at 9:29 AM, william lomas wrote:
WHAT IS THIS I SPEAK
On 9
Hi,
Our channel is #eSpeak on irc.freenode.net.
Thanks,
Alex,
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Hi,
V0.2 will once everything in documentation/readmes/things that must be
done.rtf are completed.
Thanks,
Alex,
On 9-Mar-09, at 10:07 AM, Brandon Misch wrote:
will this work with vo yet?
On Mar 9, 2009, at 2:23 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
ISpeak V0.1 is available for free
Hi all,
I am looking for a text to speech program that has a mark up
langwitch. I want to embed commands for voice, rate, etc.
Thank you for any help.
louie
louiem...@wavecable.com
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Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I am sad to say though that I
will be removing my Windows partition. I have JAWS 8 and my graphics
processor is too new to run my version of JAWS. I have no ability to
upgrade JAWS so I guess I'll just have to figure out how to uses my
Mac for everything.
Hi Louie,
louie wrote:
I am looking for a text to speech program that has a mark up
langwitch. I want to embed commands for voice, rate, etc.
There's an existing mark up language for controlling atributes for
Apple's text to speech. The easy way to do this is to use Automator,
which
what about the mbrola voices or however you spell it?
On Mar 9, 2009, at 12:33 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
William et al,
ISpeak is the effort to port three Open-Source Speech Engines to the
Mac as native voices.
Festival, Flight, and eSpeak
Thanks,
Alex,
On 9-Mar-09, at 9:29
that's good. how are things going now? and will the next version have
an installer where the terminal isn't needed?
On Mar 9, 2009, at 1:10 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
V0.2 will once everything in documentation/readmes/things that must be
done.rtf are completed.
Thanks,
Alex,
On
o ok. since .2 can't work with vo yet, what does it work with for the
moment?
On Mar 9, 2009, at 1:27 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
The 0.2 includes an uninstaller and improved installer.
Thanks,
Alex,
On 9-Mar-09, at 10:17 AM, Brandon Misch wrote:
o ok. what are the differents
Alena, Have you tried using System Access to Go? www.satogo.com. It
has no video intercept issues, and it should work with whatever
Windows operating you have installed. Richie Gardenhire, anchorage,
Alaska.
On Mar 9, 2009, at 10:52 AM, alena.roberts2...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for
o cool. can't wait to see it working with vo. will it be completed on
the 17th as you said a few days ago?
On Mar 9, 2009, at 3:33 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
It works with the Command-Line. Yes Moterolla voices will be
supported.
Thanks,
Alex,
On 9-Mar-09, at 12:27 PM, Brandon
sorry about this, I hadn't seen the other message.
On Mar 9, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Richie Gardenhire wrote:
Alena, Have you tried using System Access to Go? www.satogo.com. It
has no video intercept issues, and it should work with whatever
Windows operating you have installed. Richie
Hi Scott,
Here's my website URL for those who are interested: http://www.mcubedsw.com
. The blog post in which I first talked about accessibility is here:
http://www.mcubedsw.com/blog/index.php?/site/comments/the_accessible_mac/
Thanks
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this is not a bug. apple write drivers for displays themselves. the
display is handled through the driver and tightly integrated into
voiceover. the only thing you could offer would be a choice of short
or long labels.
as to my response to the summarization of what is on the screen, see
Hi David,
Unless I'm missing something, hitting vo-F1 just reads the current
application and how many open applications there are and vo-f2 just
reads the title of the current window. I'm talking more about
describing what UI elements are on the window and where they are. For
example On
Hi Scott,
On the full flat keyboard with the numeric keypad there is a fn key.
It is located above the delete key, to the right of the backspace key.
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Writer of Weird Symbols
pi...@mcubedsw.com
On 9 Mar 2009, at 8:25 pm, Scott Ford wrote:
Apple could provide configurability for labels for vo but unless they
make it available through the accessibility api, it would not do much
for 3rd party accessibility apps. The normal approach is to have
braille as a subset of the assistive technology and configure it
through the
9 mar 2009 kl. 21.45 skrev Martin Pilkington:
I'm talking more about describing what UI elements are on the window
and where they are. For example On the left of the screen is the
source list, it shows all your groups. In the top right in a list of
all your items.
This sounds like
I think he's talking about a window description a bit more in depth
than just an inquiry into the name of the window/application in
focus. Like tool bar with such and such buttons, side bar to the
left with source items, main view to the right with such and such.
Is that right? I think
I think there is some misunderstanding about what these descriptions
would be, but it seems the general consensus is that this sort of
thing is better left in the manual. The ability to bring up a list of
all the keyboard commands would be extremely useful to all users so
I'll definitely
Hi,
I said the Open-Source project would be released on the 17, meaning
that people could contribute patches.
Thanks,
Alex,
On 9-Mar-09, at 12:53 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:
o cool. can't wait to see it working with vo. will it be completed on
the 17th as you said a few days ago?
On Mar
Ryan,
The Keyboard is the new flat one that feels like metal. The one that
comes witha new mac computer. The keyboard has a number pad and
something like sixteen f keys and twelve keys where the six pack
usually is located. This is where the fn key is exactly where i was
told
Hi,
Except like in Kiwi Keys where you can use Voiceover, but the commands
are spoken by the Speech Manager.
Thanks,
Alex,
On 9-Mar-09, at 1:23 PM, Mark Baxter wrote:
I've waited until now to put my bit in, but here it is:
Using self-voicing programs is sort of disrespectful to those
He means individual program commands not VO commands.
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
tomorrow in Australia. Charles Schultz, creator of the Peanuts comic
strip.
El 09/03/2009, a las 15:31, David Poehlman escribió:
we can already bring up a list of
I also agree with this, voice over is a great screen reader, and apple has
provided the tools to make an application completely accessible. A self
voicing program normally should not be needed.
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To:
o i get it. lol. guess it's going great so far.
On Mar 9, 2009, at 6:19 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
I said the Open-Source project would be released on the 17, meaning
that people could contribute patches.
Thanks,
Alex,
On 9-Mar-09, at 12:53 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:
o cool.
The way I heard it on Leo Laporte podcast was Jobs did not want flash.
On Mar 9, 2009, at 5:13 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
Unfortunately, Adobe does not currently expose flash elements in a
way that
voice over can use, and last I heard, they didn't think there was
enough mac
users to spend
I think you're confusing the Mac with the iPhone. Jobs did not want
flash on the iPhone, and the iPhone consequently doesn't have it.
He probably doesn't want flash on the Mac either, I kind of agree with
him given how badly it's misused, but the fact is the plugin is there
and Adobe has
I stand corrected. Thanks.
On Mar 9, 2009, at 5:46 PM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
I think you're confusing the Mac with the iPhone. Jobs did not want
flash on the iPhone, and the iPhone consequently doesn't have it.
He probably doesn't want flash on the Mac either, I kind of agree with
him given
Hi,
All,
Here is the list of voices so far. We still have a ways to go.
Female:
(En-Sc) Peggy
(En-UK) Harriet
(En) Susan
(Ku) Soma
(De) Brigitte
Male:
(En) Judson
(En) Howard
(En-Sc) James
(En-UK) Peter
(Ku) Dara
(De) Johanna's
Thanks,
Alex,
hi.
from what i can see so far what needs too be done are:
first and most important make the espeak interact with the native mac
interface:
i just set up a computer that can handle the stuf just in case
something goes down the drain. I will try a few things to morrow and
see if it works. I
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