Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina
yeah I know. exactly. although the e71 is pretty sleak too. I'm really curious to see how the touch screen will work! that's another reason why I want it. I'm a cutting edge kinda girl lol. I wanna be one of the first blind people to pull out my iphone and use a touch screen device!!! it'l

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina
I agree with Dan. I think more apps will be accessible in time. now that people are finding out about voiceover on the IPhone, just like on the mac, they'll start writing apps with accessibility in mind. and who knows, maybe some apps are accessible already just cuz of how they're written?

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Scott Howell
That is true and I forgot to mention that. YOu can use a version of the Marc Space app and of course now I'm drawing a blank, but there is support for the iPhone in this app and it costs I believe $40. So, yes, there are other options beyond iTunes. On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:44 AM, Larry Wanger

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Michael Reiser
The new iphone will be supported on varizon, which is cdma. Will be interesting to see if other companies are supported. I've read that the iphone does have a builtin gps app and since they say that the built in apps are accessible, the gps might be. I'm sure braille can be supported wi

Re: test

2009-06-09 Thread matthew dyer
Hi, Your message came through loud and clear over here. On 6/8/09, gene wrote: > > Hi, I am trying to send a message with my ibook I think I got my > problem resolved, guess we'll see! > Gene > > > > -- You can lead a heart to love, but you can't make it fall. MSN/e-mail: ilovecountrymusic

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Well, and the same goes for Windows Mobile. I have tried apps for that platform many times which aren't read by Mobile Speak at all. On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:56 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote: > > Assuming of course that the developer wants to. Essentially, you'll > end up with the exact same situation

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
I think on the Apple website it said that all programs that come with the iPhone are accessible, and it specified "including google maps". If google maps is truly accessible, a GPS solution can't be that hard to get to work... On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:49 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > And what ab

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
I will not get rid of my MSP license either, but the fact is that here in Spain we only have GSM carriers, and none of them is really hated by people. If VO on the iPhone works as well as VO on the Mac, I will simply get an iPhone the next time I need to purchase a cell phone. I like VO, I

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Well said, Ben. Most developers of software on the mac, have developed with accessibility in mind, or if they haven't, they've listened to our concerns , and look how the mac has taken off in the blind community.I'd think the iPhone will do the same in my opinion. I'd give it a littl

Re: Voiceover and Braille update in Snow Leopard was Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Scott Howell
Damn, I guess I'm just going to have to purchase a Macbook or Macbook Pro. To bad Apple couldn't release a trackpad that could be used in place of the mouse. I guess I'll have to get an iPhone as well, but you know I hope one will come to Verizon Wireless since I would prefer to stick with

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Scott Howell
Well what I really hope is that Verizon Wireless will pickup the iPhone and instead of CDMA support, the newer standard VZW is going with will be supported, which will be like GSM, but even better. Like having the benefits of GSM and CDMA combined and hopped up a few notches. As far as iTu

Re: safari 4 issue

2009-06-09 Thread Brandon Misch
thanks for the command. thought going back was only there when it came to the toolbar. On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:33 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > Hi, > > That was never a qualified keystroke. Use "CMD" + "[" instead. > > Regards, > Alex, > > > On 8-Jun-09, at 9:14 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: > >> >>

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread ben mustill-rose
Assuming of course that the developer wants to. Essentially, you'll end up with the exact same situation you have on every other platform where a screenreader exists, its going to be down to the developers to make there applications accessable. To be honest, using a touch screen is nice, knowing w

Re: safari 4 issue

2009-06-09 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Wasn't it always command [? I've used that keystroke ever since Safari 3 actually, noticed that was the shortcut for going back that was announced by VO in going through the menus. So I've always used that since Safari 3. On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:35 AM, kaare dehard wrote: > > yep try command

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Dan Eickmeier
And what about that gps application that was demonstrated as part of the WWDC keynote. All the developer of that would have to do is make that accessible with VO on the iPhone? I'm assuming? On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:44 AM, Larry Wanger wrote: > > And, you've made the point. You have more choice

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Larry Wanger
And, you've made the point. You have more choices and the main drivers behind your decision aren't what's accessible to you in the phone market, its what phone offers you what you need. And that my friend is what this is all about. You have another choice. Just as an FYI, you don't need iTu

Re: safari 4 issue

2009-06-09 Thread kaare dehard
yep try command [ they've changed the key. On 9-Jun-09, at 12:14 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: > > Hey all. i'm having a safari 4 issue. when i try to go back with > command left arrow, it doesn't go back like it did in version 3. is > there a fix for this? > > > > --~--~-~--~~--

Re: safari 4 issue

2009-06-09 Thread Larry Wanger
Try command with backspace instead. On Jun 8, 2009, at 9:14 PM, Brandon Misch wrote: > > Hey all. i'm having a safari 4 issue. when i try to go back with > command left arrow, it doesn't go back like it did in version 3. is > there a fix for this? > > > > --~--~-~--~~~

Re: Tabular content and Voiceover

2009-06-09 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi, You can do it in safari for sure. Presumably you can do it in tables 9 as well or the spreadsheet application that comes with open office, numbers is it? I forget. I think the last I read tables weren't functioning in text edit, but most other places they should be pretty workable.

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi guys, I have to admit, when I read this, the sweat started pouring and the hart started thumping. It was better than my third cup of coffee in the morning which I'm still looking forward to with some anticipation, smiles. Speaking of which, one sec while I go pour the second one...

Re: Rare Apple Synth

2009-06-09 Thread ben mustill-rose
Yes, it did have its issues in the older versions - lots of issues really. Its much better now though. On 09/06/2009, Ignasi Cambra wrote: > > Oh I remember Hal. They actually translated that one to catalan, which > is my first language. I thought it was really cool so I gave it a try, > but I n

Re: Rare Apple Synth

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Really? I didn't even know that existed! On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:41 AM, ben mustill-rose wrote: > > Might aswell throw this out there since we're talking about general > vintage a t. > I'm searching for a speaqualizer and am willing to pay if someone can > sell me one that works. > Fyi, it was a s

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Listen to the keynote from WWDC at www.apple.com. It's a rather lengthy presentation but really interesting. At some point they specify exactly in which countries the iPhone will be sold, and when it's coming out. In Spain it's coming out this month. On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:09 AM, Krister Ekstr

Re: Rare Apple Synth

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
Oh I remember Hal. They actually translated that one to catalan, which is my first language. I thought it was really cool so I gave it a try, but I never got that screen reader to work for me for some reason... On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:04 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > Oh yes. We had several scre

Re: Safari 4 crashes when going to the apple store

2009-06-09 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, Confirmed on an Imac 20 with Macosx 10.5.7 and latest Safari. /Krister 8 jun 2009 kl. 23.11 skrev Michael Reiser: > > Hello all, > > Just installed the latest safari 4 from software update, updating from > the beta. I did the restart and all that. Everything works well, > except that when

Re: InTouch

2009-06-09 Thread ben mustill-rose
http://www.handytech.us/ht.html#gwp On 09/06/2009, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > Hi, > I'm sorry to rain on your parade, (I'm known for doing that):-) but > why reinvent the wheel? There is a device for that other operating > system that is little known, called GWP, which is used to convey > graphi

Re: InTouch

2009-06-09 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi, I'm sorry to rain on your parade, (I'm known for doing that):-) but why reinvent the wheel? There is a device for that other operating system that is little known, called GWP, which is used to convey graphical info to us. The display is bigger than the Optacon one which in my opinion i

Re: keyboard shortcuts in skype?

2009-06-09 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Gene, You can create a shortcut for any menu item which does not already have one. Here is how to do it: To set up a shortcut for a given application, open System Preferences, Go to the Keyboard&Mouse pane, Select Keyboard Shortcuts, Click the Plus button to the right of the Outline, A di

Re: Rare Apple Synth

2009-06-09 Thread ben mustill-rose
Might aswell throw this out there since we're talking about general vintage a t. I'm searching for a speaqualizer and am willing to pay if someone can sell me one that works. Fyi, it was a synth that plugged into a isa slot that was able to read the bios. On 09/06/2009, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >

Re: InTouch

2009-06-09 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Eleni, On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:29 AM, Tiffany D wrote: > Just imagine what would > happen if we could make a modern version (of the optacon) and use it > with Leopard and > Voiceover. So would this show you the screen tactually or just > indicate a position on the screen? This is actually v

Re: Voiceover and Braille update in Snow Leopard was Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Krister Ekstrom
9 jun 2009 kl. 09.41 skrev Jessi and Goldina: > oh, such an exciting time to be a mac user! I couldn't agree more. I'm so glad i jumped on the Mac train when i did. I can't believe what Apple is doing for us. /Krister --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received thi

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Krister Ekstrom
I wonder when it will be released in Sweden. I already plan on how to sell my E66.:-) I couldn't agree more with Josh, i'm in shock and so excited. I wonder how the sound quality of the Iphones phone is. Well it's gonna be cool anyways, if only i could be sure it would be sold here as well

Re: Rare Apple Synth

2009-06-09 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Oh yes. We had several screen readers developed here in Sweden and Denmark that we used along with the Swedish Infovox synths. Yes, Infovox was Swedish in the beginning. We didn't use Asap or Jaws for dos or any of the other screen readers. The only non-scandinavian screen reader in use wa

Re: Rare Apple Synth

2009-06-09 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Hi there. I think your story isn't boring at all. It's interesting to hear where people came from before they ended up here. All those old computers and synths and stuff it's way cool! Has anyone, by the way, heard of or even used a computer/screenreader/ speech synth that was called "totalta

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Justin Harford
wdodles http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html OK serious question if someone could answer me off list though since not quite on topic. Where might I go to sell my mobilespeak pocket license? I'm ready to turn in my win mobile for an iPhone! Justin On Jun 8, 200

Re: Apple Mail and IMAP

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
If the service provider has both POP and Imap just delete the pop account and create the Imap one. Don't worry, all the messages you had in your account will be downloaded again to the Imap account in mail. On Jun 9, 2009, at 4:03 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Thanks for the input regarding my

Re: safari 4 issue

2009-06-09 Thread Ignasi Cambra
command [ On Jun 9, 2009, at 12:14 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: > > Hey all. i'm having a safari 4 issue. when i try to go back with > command left arrow, it doesn't go back like it did in version 3. is > there a fix for this? > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You receiv

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread ben mustill-rose
An interestng artical: http://twittermail.com/tweet/MzAxMTUzOA John brings up a valid point here when he states that apple are implying that most of the apps from the app store won't work. First of all, don't get me wrong, I think this is a wonderfull step forward in accessabilitty of touch devic

RE: Apple Mail and IMAP

2009-06-09 Thread Michael Busboom
Thanks for the input regarding my need to switch a POP3 account to IMAP. I want IMAP on this particular account because I access it on more than one system. I guess the creation of a new account is the best approach, but I have one other question: Is there a way to copy all of the account informa

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread ben mustill-rose
I know exactly what you mean (smiles) I want the sleekness and I could probably get used to the touch, but really, if you disregard the touch screen I really don't see many advantages that would justifie me spending that amount of money. But it is a i phone. On 09/06/2009, Jessi and Goldina wrot

Re: Voiceover and Braille update in Snow Leopard was Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina
heck yes omg! s freakin' excited! On 9-Jun-09, at 12:38 AM, Dan Eickmeier wrote: > > Wow, that's going to be totally awesome. Especially the web stuff in > there. Sweet > On Jun 8, 2009, at 10:23 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > >> >> HI, >> >> Note: I do not have a Snow Leop

Re: Voiceover and Braille update in Snow Leopard was Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina
ooh this is exciting!! sounds like snow leopard is gonna be awesome! I think it's nifty how they're integrading all that stuff with the track pad into snow leopard too. it seems like that's the new direction they're taking things!!! I can't wait to see how this works! oh, s

Re: Voiceover and Braille update in Snow Leopard was Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Wow, that's going to be totally awesome. Especially the web stuff in there. Sweet On Jun 8, 2009, at 10:23 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote: > > HI, > > Note: I do not have a Snow Leopard build. However, here is a link my > LAn tech gave me for a good article from Apple about Voiceover and > Snow

Re: voice over comes to the I phone

2009-06-09 Thread Jessi and Goldina
I'm in the same position. I love my e71 to death!!! it's a great phone!!! but an IPhone!!! just the thought of it is like wow! On 8-Jun-09, at 4:37 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: > > I can't diside if I should get one or not. > The idea of knowing where abouts things are on the screen is a goo

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