RE: using facebook with safari

2010-03-16 Thread Simon Fogarty
I use bboth the lyte and the m.facebook access and I can't say I've seen the apps on it from within windows / IE or firefox either, so I don't see how it can be something apple have to work on. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Re: weird announcement all the time

2010-03-16 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Scott, To adjust the way text attributes are handled, press VO-V, then use the right arrow key until you hear Text Attributes. The up and down arrows allow you to select the setting. Press Escape when you're done. Cheers, Anne On Mar 15, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Scott Ballard-RidleyScott

RE: Programming for the mac

2010-03-16 Thread Bryan Smart
The mv-dev Google group is the only place where blind Mac programmers are talking right now. There aren't very many at the moment, but that's been because, until recently, designing the graphical user interface of an app by a blind programmer was between difficult and nearly impossible. We have

Removing the Real Player DMG File

2010-03-16 Thread Richie Gardenhire
A while back, I discovered that I haven't been able to use the Real Player because I didn't remove the DMG file from the hard drive? Is it necessary to remove it and if so, do I select just the DMG file to remove? Thanks. Richie Gardenhire, Anchorage, Alaska. -- You received this

mor esendspace issues

2010-03-16 Thread Sarah Alawami
Hello all. more sendspace issues. I tried to paste in a link to a folder and now only would it say not pasted but it did not even acknowledge I had done it. it gave me the error that the link must start with http and so forth. What in the heck is going on with this thing? Thanks. Sarah

Re: How easy would it be for a computer beginner to learn to use voiceover?

2010-03-16 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, I personally think VoiceOver is a greater screen reader than for example, JAWS for Windows, and much more intuitive. This is due to the fact that VoiceOver teaches you how to use the operating system itself, and not on a basis of scripts that will accomplish the same tasks but perhaps

Re: weird announcement all the time

2010-03-16 Thread Scott Ballard-RidleyScott Ridley
Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Scott, To adjust the way text attributes are handled, press VO-V, then use the right arrow key until you hear Text Attributes. The up and down arrows allow you to select the setting. Press Escape when you're done. Cheers, Anne On Mar 15, 2010, at 5:31 PM,

Re: How easy would it be for a computer beginner to learn to use voiceover?

2010-03-16 Thread James Nash
Hi EJ On 16 Mar 2010, at 00:55, E.J. Zufelt wrote:: I personally find the JAWS screen-reader for Windows a little more intuitive than VoiceOver. Do you really? I think that's very interesting. When I first started using VO in 2006, I found the Mac and VO to be far more intuitive than JFW and

Re: How easy would it be for a computer beginner to learn to use voiceover?

2010-03-16 Thread Jim Gatteys
I've always thought that VoiceOver was much more intuitive to understand and to put into service much more quickly than jaws or even Window-Eyes which is, BTW my fav windows screenreader. Jim On Mar 16, 2010, at 5:00 AM, James Nash wrote: Hi EJ On 16 Mar 2010, at 00:55, E.J. Zufelt wrote::

Re: How easy would it be for a computer beginner to learn to use voiceover?

2010-03-16 Thread James Nash
Hi Bill, On 16 Mar 2010, at 09:12, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: I would definitely choose a Mac. The benefit to the Mac is that you have to do things the same way that sighted users do, whereas scripts accomplish the tasks for you. Nic is absolutely correct. The in-built tutorial he mentioned is

Re: How easy would it be for a computer beginner to learn to use voiceover?

2010-03-16 Thread M AUSTEN
Hi, I don't know where your friend is based but I have a Blind friend who is being taught VoiceOver by the staff at the Apple Store in Cabots Circus, Bristol. It might be worth contacting a local Apple store. Mark --- On Tue, 16/3/10, bilgerat gabrielser...@googlemail.com wrote: From: bilgerat

Stuck after a find

2010-03-16 Thread Rich Ring
Hello All, Here is a stupid question, but I hope there is an answer. While on the web, I did a find (vo f) to look for a particular link on a page. The find brought me to the link, but then I'm stuck. No matter what Vo command I issue, I'm stuck on the particular text string/element I

Re: Stuck after a find

2010-03-16 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, Just stop interacting. For some reason, it automatically interacts with it. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Mar 16, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Rich Ring wrote: Hello All, Here is a stupid

Re: Stuck after a find

2010-03-16 Thread Jim Gatteys
Hi Rich! When that happens to me it also says clickable, and if I un-interact with that element vo-shift-up arrow, it seems to work for me. Jim On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:14 AM, Rich Ring wrote: Hello All, Here is a stupid question, but I hope there is an answer. While on the web, I did a

Re: How easy would it be for a computer beginner to learn to use voiceover?

2010-03-16 Thread Rich Ring
I think it would be a lot easier for someone to learn the Mac who had never learned Windows first. A person who has had a Windows experience for some 15 years like myself has to shed a lot of baggage and preconceived notions that a beginner who has never been exposed to the Windows environment

Re: nls book readers

2010-03-16 Thread Bob Hill
Hi Max and listers, If you go to the blindcooltech web site, there are a couple of podcasts of interest. Robert Carter did one comparing a variety of NLS compatible players. Larry Scutchan also did one on the newly released APH BookPort plus (not sure of spelling). I believe that prices start

Re: apple trap: removing programs and all the related components

2010-03-16 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi James, There's a whole other world of mac OS that you don't see. All the drivers for your hardware for example aren't stored in your aplications folder. They are probably located in something like /usr/bin, which you don't have access to using the GUI. So suppose you need to install

Re: using facebook with safari

2010-03-16 Thread Donna Goodin
Oh, that's interesting. Have to give that a try. thanks, John, hope you enjoyed chatting with your friend from high school. Cheers, Donna On Mar 15, 2010, at 11:20 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote: The problem with facebook is that it expects a lot of interaction with the mouse. I believe that

Re: How easy would it be for a computer beginner to learn to use voiceover?

2010-03-16 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi, I teach voiceover, as well as jaws and window-eyes. If some one is going to pick up a computer for the first time, mac OS is definitely a hole lot easier to teach than windows 7. The combination of jaws 11 and windows 7 is extremely clunky in my opinion. It's not too bad for a guy like

Re: using facebook with safari

2010-03-16 Thread Donna Goodin
You can update status very easily at the full site when in Windows. Also, if our sited counterparts can use the full site, then clearly there is an issue related to VO. Best, Donna On Mar 16, 2010, at 2:14 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: I use bboth the lyte and the m.facebook access and I can't say

Re: Adium weirdness!

2010-03-16 Thread Chris Hofstader
I think it may have something to do with Growl starting up. I've seen the problem but, after a delay, it usually goes away. On Mar 15, 2010, at 5:20 PM, clarence griffin wrote: maybe that's one of your accounts having a problem logging in? I don't know. I had that happen before, then it

Re: apple trap: removing programs and all the related components

2010-03-16 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, You can actually get access to /usr/bin if you use COmmand-Shift-G to go to the folder. Of course, Terminal is the preferred way to fiddle with this, but it works fine otherwise. Regards, Nic Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368

Re: apple trap: removing programs and all the related components

2010-03-16 Thread James Nash
Hi Eric, Thanks for the explanation. Ah, so that's waht /jusr/bin is. I'm getting to grips with Terminal slowly, so it's nice to learn new things. Thanks again TC James, Lyn, Nash Twinny On 14 Mar 2010, at 19:05, erik burggraaf wrote: Hi James, There's a whole other world of mac OS that

Re: using facebook with safari

2010-03-16 Thread Israel
I agree with Donna. The time I logged on to Facebook when I had my PC, I could always update status and/or post on friends' walls with ease. At the time I used Window-Eyes screen reader and it was easy to use FB main page to update status. Now, there were other aspects of FB such as chat,

Re: using facebook with safari

2010-03-16 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Israel, Not sure how long it's been since you have done this on the PC, but it may have improved. I use JAWS, so can't say for sure about Window Eyes, but I have no problem updating my profile or chatting. Cheers, Donna On Mar 16, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Israel wrote: I agree with Donna. The

Re: apple trap: removing programs and all the related components

2010-03-16 Thread James Nash
Hi Nic, I really like Linux, and i needto get more into it, especially because UNIX underpins Mac OS X. I need to get more into Linux, I' m just veryconcerend about the status of Orca. I may have to call the UK offices of Oracle to see what is going on. TC James, Lyn, Nash Twinny On 16 Mar

Re: ReadHear DAISY-player

2010-03-16 Thread Søren Jensen
Hi. Yeah, I've tried the demo version of this application, and it seems to work very well. However, I would never pay that much for a daisyplayer Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Mar 15, 2010 kl. 9:58 PM skrev David Hole:

Re: voice over reset itself yesterday. How?

2010-03-16 Thread Søren Jensen
Damn it. I thought that might be the issue. Well, thanks for your reply. Best regards Søren Jensen Mail MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den Mar 16, 2010 kl. 12:22 AM skrev Sarah Alawami: No I have not. I bought this macbook pro last mnth and have not

Re: using facebook with safari

2010-03-16 Thread Israel
Hi Donna I've not played with Facebook on a PC since June 2009. When I switched to the Mac I wanted to make a clean break from Windows so when given the option I declined to have a part of my Mac set up with Windows as many people do. My reasoning was I wanted to completely leave the trojen

Re: Adium weirdness!

2010-03-16 Thread Sarah Alawami
that's why I disabled growl notifications for everything. On Mar 16, 2010, at 5:57 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote: I think it may have something to do with Growl starting up. I've seen the problem but, after a delay, it usually goes away. On Mar 15, 2010, at 5:20 PM, clarence griffin wrote:

Re: using facebook with safari

2010-03-16 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Isra, I kinda had it easy. My PC is still running, so I've just left it set up for those times when I need Windows. I agree with you, I was afraid that if I put Windows on my Mac, I would run the risk of getting any windows junk on my nice clean Mac. Don't know if this is something we

Re: Adium weirdness!

2010-03-16 Thread Jim Gatteys
Well not sure but I don't use growl. So it can't be that--at least on mine. Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email

Re: nls book readers

2010-03-16 Thread May McDonald
Ah I see what you mean. I thought you were saying that the stream and such wouldn't work. Smile. On 2010-03-15, at 5:18 PM, Rich Ring wrote: NLS does not allow their books to be read using a computer no matter what kind it is, I don't explaine it, I just report it. They are very concerned

Re: How easy would it be for a computer beginner to learn to use voiceover?

2010-03-16 Thread Chris Blouch
One nice thing is that the the voiceover focus appears as a black box around objects on the screen so you'll be able to tell what they are interacting with. Jaws doesn't do this so sometimes it's hard to assist because you don't know what is being poked at. Since you already have a mac you can

RE: nls book readers

2010-03-16 Thread Bryan Smart
I also did a podcast for BCT about the free library-issued digital book player. I realize that there is a waiting list, but you might still want to listen to it to see what is possible. Bryan -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Can't paste

2010-03-16 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi guys, one of my clients is trying to move a set of files from her home folder to the music folder inside her home folder. When she presses command c voiceover says copied to clipboard. When she opens the music folder and presses command V it goes clonk. I've set the file and folder

Re: Can't paste

2010-03-16 Thread Nicolai Svendsen
Hi, No, I haven't seen this before. Have you attempted to use Terminal to move these files? I'd be interested to see if it complains then. The only times my Mac has complained when trying to paste is when nothing was in the clipboard, even though I told it to copy. I think a good hint is

Re: Can't paste

2010-03-16 Thread James Nash
Hi Eric, I have not had the chance to begin learning about Permissions yet, but have your clients music files been transferred from a Windows box? There seems to be some bug in Finder at the moment which prevents the copying of files which have come from a FAT32 drive. You'll have to use the

Re: Can't paste

2010-03-16 Thread Sarah Alawami
Hmm the thingi came up with is this don't past int eh music folder but on it, that is, go to the music folder don't open it and hit command v. If that fails try the other suggestions listed in this thread. Good luck. On Mar 16, 2010, at 9:11 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: Hi, No, I haven't

Re: using facebook with safari

2010-03-16 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, I tried turning off cursor tracking with VO shift F3. I did have success updating status and writing on walls when it was off. On Mar 16, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: You can update status very easily at the full site when in Windows. Also, if our sited counterparts can use

Re: safari busy

2010-03-16 Thread Chris Blouch
I run click to flash to remove flash from the pages I surf to. Speeds things up quite a bit. You can still activate a piece of flash if you want to. http://rentzsch.github.com/clicktoflash/ CB Sarah Alawami wrote: actually theer is a point to that. I have had flash crash on windows and ther

Re: using facebook with safari

2010-03-16 Thread Ricardo Walker
Oh. and to write a comment I had to do a mouse click on write a comment and I was put into the edit field. On Mar 16, 2010, at 9:00 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: You can update status very easily at the full site when in Windows. Also, if our sited counterparts can use the full site, then

Re: How easy would it be for a computer beginner to learn to use voiceover?

2010-03-16 Thread Tammy Abreu-Butron.com
What a wonderful bit of information. I'm going to check out the link. Tammy Abreu-Butron www.tammybutron.com On Mar 15, 2010, at 6:57 PM, mani mani.g.i...@gmail.com wrote: Hello: I have been developing software for 20+ years and lately, because of my declining vision, have been forced to

-- Re: Can't paste

2010-03-16 Thread David McLean
The only time I've seen this was when I was trying to copy to an sdhc card and I had inadvertently pushed up the protect tab. Since that doesn't appear to be your case it sounds more like somehow Os10 seems to think the folder is protectted. On Mar 16, 2010, at 12:11 PM, Nicolai Svendsen

need help entering dates in address book

2010-03-16 Thread Christina
Hello Listers, I cannot figure out how to enter dates for b-days and anniversaries. I can navigate to the date field but after that I'm pretty lost as to what is happening. Thanks so much, Christina -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries

Re: need help entering dates in address book

2010-03-16 Thread Slau Halatyn
When you get to the date field, interact with it by pressing Control-Option-Shift-down arrow. Now use Control-Option-left or right arrow to move between the month, day, hours and minutes fields. Pressing Control-Option-up and down arrows will increment or decrement the values. When you're done

Re: virtual box for mac

2010-03-16 Thread Chris Blouch
I know on VMWare when there is a USB device inserted it prompts asking if you want to give it to the Mac or Windows. Maybe Virtualbox needs something like this. CB Simon Fogarty wrote: Hi lists, Sorry for the cross posting but I need to get this question answered, I'm using a mac book pro

Re: need help entering dates in address book

2010-03-16 Thread Slau Halatyn
One thing I forgot to mention for those who might experience occasional problems editing the time field: Make sure that the all day checkbox is unchecked, otherwise it's impossible to edit the time field because the understanding is that, if it's an all-day event, there can be no specific time

Re: virtual box for mac

2010-03-16 Thread John J Herzog
Hi all, Since when did virtual box become accessible? Last time I tried it, nothing could be read by voiceover. What version did this change in? John On Mar 16, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I know on VMWare when there is a USB device inserted it prompts asking if you want to give

Re: free basic audio recorder fore mac?

2010-03-16 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Hank, Try the accessible version of audacity at http://audacity.homerow.net/index.php?dir=accessible hth On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:39 PM, hank smith wrote: hello can I get a recommendation fore a free basic audio recorder? Hank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to

Deleting a service that is running

2010-03-16 Thread VaShaun Jones
Listers I downloaded a application that continuously runs a service even when the app has been deleted. When I go to library/services/ the name of the service I get an error that says its running and cannot be deleted. How do I find this service and kill it? -- You received this message

Re: nls book readers

2010-03-16 Thread Frank Tom
Hi all, I got the advanced talking book player when they first came out last summer. Although I was stationed in Huntsville Alabama for my entire service, I am a Service connected Vietnam era Vet. It's like pre boarding at the airport, if someone is willing to let me go to the head of the

Office 2008 Accessibility

2010-03-16 Thread Chad Rohr
Hello, I am going to be getting a Macbook soon and I wondered if Office 2008 is accessible? If not, what is something that will work and is accessible for the Mac Thanks Chad __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4950 (20100316

Re: nls book readers

2010-03-16 Thread Rich Ring
Iowa was a pilot state, I've had one since June of 2009. there were 8 such states in the US. - Original Message - From: clarence griffin goldfin...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:41 AM Subject: Re: nls book readers I want to know how you

Re: nls book readers

2010-03-16 Thread May McDonald
Yes I love the advanced player. I got mine the first of this year. I was quite surprised since they forgot to let me know that it was on the way, lol. On 2010-03-16, at 5:19 PM, Frank Tom wrote: Hi all, I got the advanced talking book player when they first came out last summer. Although I