RE: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-13 Thread Missy Hoppe
Um.. I don't know how that song got attached to my previous post. Am very, very confused. If it went through, and you like it, I guess that's OK, but I didn't attach anything deliberately. I wonder if my computer is possessed! I'm tripple checking this message, and there definitely are not any

Re: More issues with option click.

2011-10-13 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hello, You need to turn voiceover off before performing option click. When you turn VO back on the file browser will be in VO focus. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:01 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, I think

Re: writing to NTFS drives under Lion?

2011-10-13 Thread Ricardo Walker
Lol, Thats what I'd like to know. This definitely didn't work for me in snow leopard, leopard, and now Lion. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Oct 13, 2011, at 12:56 AM, Gavin wrote: I thought writing to NTFS partitions was impossible

Re: writing to NTFS drives under Lion?

2011-10-13 Thread Paul Erkens
Hi John, The program to access ntfs with read write access from a mac, is called ntfs3g. You will need the supplementary program called mac fuse for it to operate. Ntfs3g runs under sl, but not under lion. There is also a commercial version however, and that one works in lion too. Hth, Paul.

I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

2011-10-13 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hi All. I can't seem to move my Mobile Me data I Cloud. I cloud website is not accessible. Anyone else having this problem? Kawal. Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: [M-A] I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

2011-10-13 Thread Ricardo Walker
Yup, the iCloud site is an accessibility nightmare. But my contacts are there. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:24 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Hi All. I can't seem to move my Mobile Me data I Cloud. I cloud website

Re: [M-A] I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

2011-10-13 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
So how to move everything to that website? Sent from my iPhone On 13 Oct 2011, at 09:27 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, the iCloud site is an accessibility nightmare. But my contacts are there. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296

Re: [M-A] I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

2011-10-13 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
OK, when I sign in with my me.com ID, it asks me to move my data. I press the move button. I get taken to the website. put in my username and password, check the box and sign in. I get taken to the I Cloud Website. There is one button, a pop up button with no label and then Image image image

Re: Anyone else having issues upgrading to IOS5 on their IPhones?

2011-10-13 Thread Scott Howell
All, I upgraded two iPads and two iPhones so far. I think a lot of the problems people are having is the incredible number of downloads and despite Apple's best efforts, demand can just overwhelm the hardiest of servers/server farms. I had a number of problems and including one instance when my

Re: -- SPAM --Re: Anyone else having issues upgrading to IOS5 on their IPhones?

2011-10-13 Thread Scott Howell
I lost absolutely nothing despite how dicy things got. On Oct 12, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Aser Tolentino wrote: iPad 2 updated, but lost all media along the way. Are all the English voices other than defaults compact only? Sent from my iPad On Oct 12, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Brett C.

ios5 podcast VoiceOverOn

2011-10-13 Thread Paul Erkens
Dear listers, For anyone interested, I was pleasantly surprised by the arrival of the latest podcast called VoiceOverOn. A few very well informed people, will talk you through what is new in iOS 5, they inform you about iCloud which is also mac related, and because one of the guys is a beta

Re: Anyone else having issues upgrading to IOS5 on their IPhones?

2011-10-13 Thread Les Kriegler
Hi Scott, Well, I took in the baseball playoffs, took a nap and then started the upgrade at around 10:30 last night. All went well, no errors, and apps were restored. The only thing I found rather odd was that a number of my apps had to be updated from the App Store. Some of them went back

trouble with me.com iMap settings

2011-10-13 Thread KliphSharrie
Okay, I've tried everything. Deleting all my accounts from apple mail. Googled iMap settings for mobile me, and still can't receive from my me.com address. It will let me send using my gmail server, but no sending. I've even set my account up in iCloud. Does anyone have any other

Re: ios5 podcast VoiceOverOn

2011-10-13 Thread Chris Moore
I totally love listening to Ivan and Kevin. They just provide the plain truth good or bad. No nonsense, just how I like it being british. Ivan, if you are reading, really happy you have managed to regain some useful vision. Hope this does not mean you will no longer be helping us improve VO

Moving iLife Back To Snow Leopard

2011-10-13 Thread Gavin
Hi guys, When downgrading to Snow Leopard, would I be able to take the iLife apps that came preinstalled with Lion and copy them to Snow Leopard like I can with any other application? I don't see the point of having to buy iLife all over again just because I'm reformatting my hard disk.

Re: Moving iLife Back To Snow Leopard

2011-10-13 Thread Gavin
I don't think so. There aren't any disks in the box, just a bunch of manuals. On 13 Oct 2011, at 3:13 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, Didn't an iLife DVD come with your Mac? Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Oct 13, 2011, at 8:20 AM,

New safari 5.1.1 is being offurd!

2011-10-13 Thread Red.Falcon
If anyone does not know and some areas have not got it yet! Colin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

Re: Moving iLife Back To Snow Leopard

2011-10-13 Thread Gavin
Hi Ricardo, I've just double-checked my Mac's box. There appears to be a disk-sized sleeve included, but it has no disk in it. Whether this is because I have a 2011 MacBook Pro, or because the DVD's aren't included with Macs in South Africa, or even because of an error on the part of the

RE: Moving iLife Back To Snow Leopard

2011-10-13 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi, They stopped including DVD's with the 2011 models in all countries, unfortunately. The good news is, when you reformat your mac, your iLife purchase are tied to your app store account, so you can just redownload them again, unless you're going back to snow leopard for some unexplainable

Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-13 Thread David Eagle
Voice Over not starting at start up? I'm not finding that on my machine. It's always started up fine. On 13/10/2011, Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net wrote: Um.. I don't know how that song got attached to my previous post. Am very, very confused. If it went through, and you like it, I guess

trying to create a me.com email account

2011-10-13 Thread Goodin, Donna
Hi all, Can anyone help with this? I went into ICloud settings on my phone, and entered the address I wanted to create. I was never prompted for a password, and when I sent an email to that address, it came back as undeliverable. Now, when I turn on and off mail in iCloud, I am no longer

screwed up with iCloud and iOS 5 Help!

2011-10-13 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Help! I updated my iPad2 first. Went through the sign in process, and miss the button that said sign in with your Mobleme account first. I signed in with my iTunes account. I cannot get my Moblme settings to sync. It asks me to create an account, not sign in. I also receive a backup failed

Re: ios5 podcast VoiceOverOn

2011-10-13 Thread Christine Grassman
I cannot locate any podcasts after episode 24 from 10/1. Christine Sent from my iPhone On 13/10/2011, at 5:15, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote: Dear listers, For anyone interested, I was pleasantly surprised by the arrival of the latest podcast called VoiceOverOn. A few very well

Re: trying to create a me.com email account

2011-10-13 Thread Justin Ekis
Hi Donna, As far as I can tell, your password for iCloud mail is just the password for your apple ID. I'm just making a semi-educated guess, but I think It's just a part of your iCloud account and probably can't have a different password for technical reasons. If you look in the mail app,

Hi

2011-10-13 Thread Gena Harper
Hi Neil, I just wanted to say hi and that it was nice to meet you even though we never really met. It was fun talking with you on Skype. It seemed like we've known each other for years. Thank you for arranging for Martin - he was such a pleasure. Also, thank you for arranging the lovely

Re: Anyone else having issues upgrading to IOS5 on their IPhones?

2011-10-13 Thread Christina
I kept getting the cannot restore error message. Then I had a thought. I went into my app switcher and made sure to close everything. Then my iPhone upgraded just fine. I should have done that to begin with but sometimes I forget about it. I felt dumb for not doing that to begin with even

RE: Hi

2011-10-13 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi, Did you mean to send that to macvisionaries? If so, it's completely off topic. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gena Harper Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 12:11 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Re: screwed up with iCloud and iOS 5 Help!

2011-10-13 Thread Alex Hall
I'm not sure about the errors, but you can go to setting iCloud, select your account, and delete it. Then sign in with the MobileMe settings instead. On 10/13/11, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote: Help! I updated my iPad2 first. Went through the sign in process, and miss the

Re: ios5 podcast VoiceOverOn

2011-10-13 Thread Jenny Wood
Not seeing it here either. Looking forward to listening to it when it does become available though. :-) -- Jenny Wood Phone: (972) 989-3894 Email: kc5...@gmail.com Facebook/Twitter/Skype: kc5gni On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:46 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: I cannot locate any podcasts after

IOS 5 update questions

2011-10-13 Thread Christine Grassman
How long did everything take from start to finish? Also, is it normal for iTunes to have no windoes once the update begins? It says not to interrupt, but what if happenstance dictates an interruption, though unintended? Will thi result in damage of any kind? Just paranoid . . . :) -- You

Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-13 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Well, let me tell all y'all the real weird thing that just happened to me. I padded in here to use my Mac to check my e-mail; and, when I pressed the control key to bring my machine out of screen saver, I got Screen saver busy over and over and my fan went hyper on me. I had to do a hard

Re: IOS 5 update questions

2011-10-13 Thread Chris Blouch
It took a good 30 minutes which kind of surprised me. Apparently it fully wipes and reloads the phone OS and then restores all your apps and data from the iTunes backup. This restore runs in the background so you can keep the phone tethered and use it while the rest of your media comes back. I

RE: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-13 Thread Bill Holton
So exactly what kind of pictures are on your screensaver that causes the Mac to catch such a fever? grin From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:19 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-13 Thread Krister Ekstrom
For me, the upgrade was worthwhile as was the switch from SL. The upgrade fixed a bug with Launchpad that i had talked to Apple about so that's great. /Krister 12 okt 2011 kl. 23:00 skrev Missy Hoppe: Well, for me at least, the lion update wasn't worthwhile. The midi issue still hasn't been

Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-13 Thread Krister Ekstrom
Strange, i have never had that issue. /Krister 13 okt 2011 kl. 00:57 skrev Allison Mervis: It also looks like they still haven't fixed the issue of VO not launching on startup. Not a huge deal, but still an inconvenience. Allison -Original Message- From:

Itunes 10.5 crashes on upgrade

2011-10-13 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
I just ran Software Update and installed Itunes 10.5. Now, when I try to open Itunes, it says This version of Itunes has not been correctly configured, and quits when I hit the okay button, which is the only choice. No information about how to fix it, or what. I'm running Snow Leopard on a

Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-13 Thread Ray Foret Jr
I could be sarchastic and reply, how the hell would I know?, but no. I aint gonna do that. the simple fact of the matter is that it happened, and, know what else? This is the first time that happened ever. Also, as an asside, I noticed that under 10.6, my Mac would start up and be fully

Can I stop the backup and begin it later without likelihood of a problem?

2011-10-13 Thread Christine Grassman
My phone is restoring from a back-up after an apparent successful upgrade to IOS 5. I must leave soon; can I hit stop and resume at home? Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to

Itunes 10.5 fail

2011-10-13 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
I ended up going back to 10.3, restoring it as I have many times before, from my external backup. I am *SO* glad Apple's OS is flexible enough to do that. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: •

Re: trying to create a me.com email account

2011-10-13 Thread Goodin, Donna
Hi Justin, I think something's messed up. I actually called tech support, and they said I had to have a mobile me account. I signed into the ME site with my Apple ID, but that didn't help either. I think I'll go into the Apple store this weekend and see if they can sort it out. Donna On Oct

Re: trying to create a me.com email account

2011-10-13 Thread Dan
Hello, You do not need a MobileMe account. I just set my iCloud account up and it works just fine. You need to confirm your email before it's written in stone. If someone else has the same someth...@me.com address, you will need to choose another one. Also, remember that this is a one-time

Re: trying to create a me.com email account

2011-10-13 Thread Goodin, Donna
Thanks, Dan. It looks like it's been accepted, i.e. when I go into my icloud account, it shows up as an email address, but I can't send any mail to it. I've tried from two different addresses, and both messages come back as undeliverable. Also, when I open Mail on my phone, I get an error

Re: trying to create a me.com email account

2011-10-13 Thread Dan
Hello, See if you can remove the iCloud account. It's the last option in the settings menu where you set all that stuff up. Just make sure it's the iCloud account. HTH. Dan On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Goodin, Donna wrote: Thanks, Dan. It looks like it's been accepted, i.e. when I go into my

Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread Teresa Cochran
I found this out accidentally, so I don't know if it's documented anywhere. If you're using the preview pane, and you want to navigate from mailbox list to message list to message content, use control-tab. At least as far as I'm concerned, tab doesn't work anymore for that purpose. I'm thinking

Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread Brett C.
I've noticed that tab no longer works to move to the messages in a thread as well. Brett C. On Oct 13, 2011, at 3:07 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I found this out accidentally, so I don't know if it's documented anywhere. If you're using the preview pane, and you want to navigate from mailbox

Re: Can I stop the backup and begin it later without likelihood of a problem?

2011-10-13 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi, Its probably too late now, but no, I really wouldn't do that if I were you. iTunes isn't always 100% truethfull about what its doing what stage its at in the process - e.g. It says its restoring the firmware when its actually upgrading it, so I really wouldn't feel confident enough to remove

Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.

2011-10-13 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Talking about restarting, after I upgraded last night, I was putting on my headphones so as not to disturb anyone and my machine did a really weird thing that I thought a Mac would never do. When I put the headphones on, I experienced my sounds and voice over skipping like a broken record or

All is well! Iphone back and running!

2011-10-13 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi all! Well my local Apple store sorted the phone in 10 minutes and when I plugged it into the Mac the backup just started and put all stuff back! And so I put the next Iphone on and its done the lot in under half a hour! Talk about different experience's Thanks for all your suggestions! All the

Fwd: All is well! Iphone back and running!

2011-10-13 Thread Red.Falcon
Begin forwarded message: From: Red.Falcon velocity.focu...@gmail.com Date: 13 October 2011 22:42:47 GMT+01:00 To: mac access mac-acc...@mac-access.net, macvisionaries group macvisionaries@googlegroups.com, Mobile Access mobileacc...@googlegroups.com Bcc: Red.Falcon M

RE: I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

2011-10-13 Thread M. Taylor
Hello Kawal, et al. I decided to move all of my Contacts, Calendar Appointments, etc from my beloved Mobile Me account to the iCloud earlier today. Instead of using either my Mac, PC, or IOS device, I launched my browser of choice, Internet Explorer 8 (Windows 7), and pointed it to:

RE: [M-A] I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

2011-10-13 Thread M. Taylor
Kawal, The images to which you are referring are the various things you are choosing to move such as Contacts, Calendar, etc. I believe VoiceOver reads parts of these images as clickable. It can be extremely frustrating, to say the least. Mark -Original Message- From:

Re: program my husband wrote

2011-10-13 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Paul. I had to find out. My husband said he used Visual Basic. He said he was not familiar with Python. Regards, Gigi On Oct 12, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Alex Hall wrote: What language did he use? Python is a great cross-platform language that he may want to look into. Using the wxPython gui

Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Guys. dI just found out by accident that return also works to get a message to read these days. I used to do that in Windows, so I got desperate and tried it. It worked. Regards, Gigi On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:08 PM, Brett C. wrote: I've noticed that tab no longer works to move to the

Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread Alex Hall
Tab doesn't work for me either, but I thought I was too tired and was doing something wrong. However, the vo-j keystroke mentioned a few days ago works perfectly for me, and does not even read out that maddening table/root cell information that tabbing would! On 10/13/11, Eugenia Firth

Re: program my husband wrote

2011-10-13 Thread Alex Hall
Well Python is cross-platform and is easy to use. Tell him from me that: Python is object-oriented, using functions and classes. In Python, absolutely everything is an object, even methods. I could therefore have an array of function names and call one by using funcs[2](args). This is very

Skype Not Ringing.

2011-10-13 Thread Georges Zaynoun
Hi! Since I updated to ios5 on my ipad2 yesterday when somebody calls me they hear the ringing signal but I hear no ringing tone noor any indication in text or the like, I have uninstalled skype and reinstalled it severral times but the results are the same, notifications are on I must add,

Signatures in Different Mail Accounts?

2011-10-13 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, guys, As you will find out, I've figured out how to use signatures in Mail. However, I don't know how to make them apply globally to all mail accounts. When I try adding a new signature for all accounts, the popup menu is dimmed. If I try for an individual account, it works fine. Is there

Growl Mail

2011-10-13 Thread Jeff Berwick
Hi all, I just upgraded to Growl 1.3. I was getting a message that incompatible plugins were being disabled in mail. It was referring to growl mail. As a result, I ran the uninstaller, removed growl mail, growl safari and hardware growler. After that, I installed Growl 1.3. Unfortunately,

Re: screwed up with iCloud and iOS 5 Help!

2011-10-13 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi: Tried that. Received a message saying to go to me.com to move MobleMe to iCloud. I left it transferring to iCloud but receive same messages on iPad and iPhone. On Oct 13, 2011, at 12:24 PM, Alex Hall wrote: I'm not sure about the errors, but you can go to setting iCloud, select your

Re: I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

2011-10-13 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi: It isn't working for me. I keep seeing moving data. That was 8 hours agai. On Oct 13, 2011, at 4:47 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Kawal, et al. I decided to move all of my Contacts, Calendar Appointments, etc from my beloved Mobile Me account to the iCloud earlier today. Instead of

RE: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread M. Taylor
You are absolutely correct, Theresa; and what a disappointing failure of 7.2. The breaking of the Tab key as a navigation key in Mail was well documented before the release. Thank God for Control-Tab but I wouldn't get too used to it, were I you. Sometimes it feels as though all the

RE: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread M. Taylor
The problem with using the VO+J command, Alex, as far as I am concerned, is that it, in many cases, causes you to automatically interact with the text of the message; if this is all you wish to do then fine; but, if you merely want to hear the contents of the message then quickly skim other

RE: I can't seem to move my contacts and Mobile data to I Cloud.

2011-10-13 Thread M. Taylor
Hello, It's been saying moving data for over 8 hours/ OK: 1. Assuming that you initiated the move from the web via Safari, Firefox, Chrome, Internet Explorer, etc, closing the browser would make no difference as all of this takes place at Apple's end of the proverbial connection so, if you

Trouble with moving items dock

2011-10-13 Thread Traci
Hi all, Lately, I'm having a hard time moving items to the dock. Lol, I've successfully done this before, but just recently I must be messing up. I'd appreciate some troubleshooting tips, or guesses on where I'm going wrong. Thank you, Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail -- You received this

Re: Trouble with moving items dock

2011-10-13 Thread Dan Eickmeier
Hi Tracy, i'm assuming you're wanting to do this on the mac. IF you want to put anything on the doc, find the folder, application, or whatever it is you want to put on there, and hit command shift-t, hope this helps. On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:12 PM, Traci wrote: Hi all, Lately, I'm having

Re: Trouble with moving items dock

2011-10-13 Thread Brett C.
If you would like to move an application to the doc, open the app, find it on the doc, use VO shift M to bring up a menu, open the options submenu and select add to doc. If you want to have a folder on the doc, highlight the folder and use command shift T to add it. Brett C. On Oct 13, 2011,

Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread Ray Foret Jr
All right. Given that, what would you recommend as being the fastest way to move through message threads? I find that when I'm focused on a message in the message window, and that message is part of a conversation, pressing return does not open all of the conversation. Sincerely, The

Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread Chris Westbrook
Did Apple acknowledge the bug and/or give a reason for the change? Control tab isn't listed under the keyboard shortcuts and really doesn't make any sense in my opinion. Weird. On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:19 PM, M. Taylor wrote: You are absolutely correct, Theresa; and what a disappointing failure

Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Anne. This Mac newbee discovered something that those of you who know what you're doing may not have discovered because I don't think you would mess around on the keyboard with as much I guess desperation. I discovered that although the tab doesn't work like it did before, it does in fact go

Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi Guys. I think this Mac newbee may have discovered something you experienced guys might not have thought of because you experienced guys would be less likely to mess around on the keyboard in desperation. I found that, although the tab didn't work like it did before, I could go from message

Re: Navigation in Mail Change with Lion 10.7.2

2011-10-13 Thread Eugenia Firth
Sorry guys for sending information twice, but I did not know the first one got sent. Let me tell you guys that this Mac new bee just discovered another way to crash Mail. don't do what I did, or you might crash yours. I went into Trash because I decided to reply to a message I had just

Mac for college

2011-10-13 Thread Louis Do
Hello. i am planning on purchasing a mac for my first year of college next year. i am currently learning voiceover and I prefer it to the PC screenreaders available. I have a few questions that hopefully you kind folks can answer to help me make a more informed purchase. 1. What macbook would fit

Re: Mac for college

2011-10-13 Thread Gavin
Hi Louis, It sounds like a MacBook Air would be your best bet, though I don't know what kind of specs it has. I've also heard that the MacBook Air has a similar price to the 13 inch MacBook Pro, which you could also try. If you don't want to spend too much, you could also go for the ordinary

Re: Mac for college

2011-10-13 Thread Louis Do
Yes, this is very useful information. I am leaning more towards the macbook Pro. Are there reasons why the pro is better than the air or vice versa? On 10/13/11, Gavin g.batw...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Louis, It sounds like a MacBook Air would be your best bet, though I don't know what kind of