Kare, well, interesting. I also have an old iPhone 4S that is strictly an MP3
player now.
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I intend to get a 2012 macbook pro 15 inches or larger, at some point.
Using this iPhone as a teaching tool.
as for what i presently use, that is beyond the scope of this list.
Still the 2012 macbook pro larger screen is the last macbook pro with all
three jacks, line in line out and headphon
Dave I don’t think a computer is wanted so I wouldn’t push.
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Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 4:49 PM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: limitations of an unlocked iphone?
Karen, why not just get a computer, then? Why
Just remember not all things can be done from the keyboard so gestures may be
required.
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Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 2:19 PM
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I wouldn’t do that, although I have thought of remotely wiping the machines as
the team I was part of don’t now have the knowledge to rebuild the machines
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Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 12:08 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: More on my f
Karen, why not just get a computer, then? Why muddle along with an old iPhone
with old iOS support? What exactly do you do — text messages, email?
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I always had mine on group but since the latest update to Safari things haven't
been working so well in that setting so I switched it to dom order and my
problem went away. I may have other problems later but so far all is good.
> On Nov 18, 2019, at 6:19 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
>
> Dom order n
Hokay dokey, you know best.
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On 11/18/2019 5:51 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
On the contrary,
part of my delays have come from trying to gesture.
the keyboard is a full
Thanks for the interesting information.
this iPhone was originally associated with a mobile provider, given to
me by a colleague who had no further use for the device. In Canada
mobile providers are required to unlock devices for free..although they
did try to lock the phone to themselves
On the contrary,
part of my delays have come from trying to gesture.
the keyboard is a full sized one, built like a tank, and something I
trust typing wise far more than random tapping.
While I am open to learning as much as possible, I consider the gestures
less important for my personal ne
My iPhone is unlocked (bought outright from Apple, not as a carrier device,
hence not locked to a specific carrier). All I needed to do was to install a
SIM card (transferred the card from the previous iPhone), contacted the
carrier, gave them the IMEI number as I recall, and it was working on
You will still need to at least know the basic VO gestures. There is
not that much risk of error. Besides, if something happens to the
keyboard, you do want those VO gestures.
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Thanks for this.
Still, I will be using an external keyboard exclusively, few if any
jesting at all if possible.
far too much risk for error.
Cheers,
Kare
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
thought I would copy and paste this from the Apple website for when you set up
so you h
thought I would copy and paste this from the Apple website for when you set up
so you have some reference. Good luck
Learn VoiceOver gestures on iPhone
When VoiceOver is on, standard touchscreen gestures have different effects, and
additional gestures let you move around the screen and control in
Dom order navigates the web page by object, in the order that the HTML
specifies. This will usually be the setting you want. I have never really tried
the group mode setting since the dom setting has always worked for me.
> On Nov 17, 2019, at 3:51 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:
>
> can somebody tel
...okay!
Everything crossed I can set this up successfully on Thursday.
Apple accessibility already told me that there is an on board voiceover
training present, providing guidance for using an external keyboard as
well.
Thanks everyone.
On Mon, 18 Nov 2019, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
Yeah so
How much?
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On Nov 18, 2019, at 16:03, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
Yeah cause we don’t already think your smart enough.
I thought like petrus that if you deleted from one mac message dev
Now, no leaking of classified information Simon ;).
Later...
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Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Nov 18, 2019, at 16:06, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
Now that I think about it,
I think it was after we put an ssd in to
Now that I think about it,
I think it was after we put an ssd in to it that the fan kicked in to life.
Interesting though the ssd were purchased through a mac support agent so I
would have thought been ok.
Anyway not my issue now as don’t work for that company / organisation.
Although I know I’
Hi,
Yes, there's no reason for a 2015 MBA with 8 GB of RAM to be made a paper
weight of. There's some process that is causing the fans to engage, we just
need to figure out why. Indexing should already be complete, so that's not an
option in my opinion. You've checked Activity Monitor for pr
Yeah cause we don’t already think your smart enough.
I thought like petrus that if you deleted from one mac message device it should
through your imessages / iCloud delete from the other synced devices e.g.
delete from my watch deleted also from my iphone and iPad messages app.
Hey I’ve got an
Hi,
When this happened on iMacs, it was usually due to a non-Apple HD being
installed after an HD failure. The non-Apple HD didn't interface properly with
the sensors, and thus it turned the fans on just for fun. I don't recommend
doing that in this situation as it is not a mis-reading of sen
Yeah so long as you have wifi then you can download apps on to it from the app
store,
And if your using it as a word processor or note taking device then notepad and
or pages etc are all free to an Ios device these days.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On
Beha
If the phone is unlocked then there should be no limitations what so ever.
The only thing you might need to do is have an old sim card to put in it to
stop the prompting for a sim.
It doesn't need to be a working sim,
Then you could use it as a media device or camera etc.
The thing is that it
Hi,
I'm not sure. I haven't got an Apple Watch yet so I'm not totally familiar
with the interactivity. Is it supposed to delete the message on the Apple
Watch, or is it simply supposed to clear it from the Apple Watch display. I
will do some research so I can pretend I'm smarter.
Later...
I’ve struck a similar thing on an iMac I used at work wit an earlier os.
A mac tech gave me a fan controller to use and it worked great to bring the fan
speed and control back to normal.
Sorry I don’t know the name of it ut I’ll try and find out.
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On
Beha
Hi Tim,
I have
Messages enabled on my phone within iCloud and I believe on my watch but will
have to check that when have more time,
Why then do messages deleted from my watch not sync back to deleted from my
iPhone?
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 8:16
I'm assuming that you have checked iMesages for an unsent / undelivered message?
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Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 2:18 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Message could not be sent.
Hi!
Or possibly messages from facebook?
From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 4:58 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Message could not be sent.
Hi,
Are you positive that it is the Messages app, not a mail message? If it is
indeed from the Message
I also get a situation on my watch that some of the apps on the screen don’t
speak what the name of the app is.
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Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 1:36 AM
To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Subject: Re: Setting for the Message
well that says allot given I have never used an IPhone at all.
Still, I believe I get the idea.
On Mon, 18 Nov 2019, Loy Green wrote:
If you have a WiFi connection in your home you can use it just like an IPhone
except make calls.
- Original Message -
From: "Karen Lewellen"
To: "list
actually nothing whatsoever.
I only recently found a keyboard that will support the phone for more
typing then anything else.
Then there was all the time spent choosing a voice that hopefully will
not stimulate my brain's dizzy centres.
still you have confirmed that wifi does not require a s
You can do everything you can do with a locked i phone except make phone calls.
I think somebody also said that you’ll need wifi if you want to connect to the
internet…
HTH,
Cait
> On Nov 18, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
> Am hoping to get a basic answer without nee
If you have a WiFi connection in your home you can use it just like an IPhone
except make calls.
- Original Message -
From: "Karen Lewellen"
To: "list voiceover"
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 4:24 PM
Subject: limitations of an unlocked iphone?
Hi folks,
Am hoping to get a basic answ
What HAVE you been doing with this phone since you got it? Well you
can use it for everything but make or receive phone calls. Connect it to
wifi and there you go.
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Hi folks,
Am hoping to get a basic answer without needing to join another list.
I have an unlocked iPhone 5. I have no desire to get it subscribed to a
service unless absolutely needful as it will not be used for phone calls.
However, I may not have a choice, which is why I am asking.
If I keep
Good job.
Later...
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Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Nov 18, 2019, at 13:06, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
Thanks, I checked again in the messages app on the Mac in the preferences and
checked the iCloud setting and
Hi!
Yes i am sure as i can click somewhere in the alert notice and messages app
opens.
I have no luck with Catalina so far.
Not very happy right now with it.
/A
> 18 nov. 2019 kl. 16:57 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
> :
>
> Hi,
>
> Are you positive that it is the Messages app, not a m
Thanks, I checked again in the messages app on the Mac in the preferences and
checked the iCloud setting and now I just deleted an iMessage on my phone and
it vanished from my Mac as well. So I think I have it by Jove
> On 19/11/2019, at 08:15, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Hi
Thanks Tim,
I’m sure I have all of those selected, but it’s not a big deal.
Thanks again,
> On 19/11/2019, at 08:14, Dave Carlson wrote:
>
> Petrus,
> I suspect that iCloud would be necessary for deletions to show up. For
> example, my iPad mini uses an old iOS that pre-dates messaging using
Hi!
It has 8GB ram so i would be good to go i guess.
/A
> 18 nov. 2019 kl. 20:19 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
> :
>
> Hi,
>
> How much RAM do you have in that MBA? A 2015 model should be fine if it has
> 8 GB, but a 4 GB one might misbehave a little.
>
> Later...
> \
>
> Tim Kil
Hi,
How much RAM do you have in that MBA? A 2015 model should be fine if it has 8
GB, but a 4 GB one might misbehave a little.
Later...
\
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
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Jamf Certified Associate
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Nov 17, 2019, at 15:18, Anders Holmbe
Hi,
Yes, deleting would not sync across unless you have Messages in iCloud enabled.
It would need to be enabled on all devices. There was links to that on the
page I linked in my previous note. Basically though, you need to have Messages
in iCloud enabled on all devices. On your Mac, that's
I don't mind the sounds in group ode. what I didn't like was that vo wasn't
reading all the text.
> On Nov 18, 2019, at 10:50 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> When using DOM order, VO behaves more like those dreaded Windows screen
> readers in that the page is not a
Petrus,
I suspect that iCloud would be necessary for deletions to show up. For example,
my iPad mini uses an old iOS that pre-dates messaging using iCloud. Messages
never delete on the iPad when deleted from my Mac or iPhone 8. They either need
to expire on their own, or be deleted manually. Als
Hi Tim,
Yes, I understand all that, well I thought I did. I have no problem syncing my
messages between devices as far as sending and receiving goes. If I get a Text
message or iMessage on my phone it will appear on my Mac , but it’s the
deleting of messages that doesn’t happen. I just deleted a
Hello,
Ok, i’ll give that a try.
Thanks.
> On Nov 18, 2019, at 2:23 AM, Robert Hill wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Running Catalina, I check "use column view in the view menu, and that gets
> rid of the preview.
>
> Bob Hill
>
>
>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 3:10 PM, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries
>> wrot
Ah, yes. That was going to be my other guess. Clear as mud, of course.
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Hi,
All devices that you wish to use iMessages and SMS messages from your iPhone
must use the same Apple ID, they must be linked from within Settings, Messages
on the iPhone, and it's beneficial to have them all set to use your iPhone
phone number as the default "send From" address. As I menti
Document Object Model.
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On 11/18/2019 8:59 AM, Dave Carlson wrote:
Tim,
Okay, I’ll see if I can glean some differences on web pages. But, pardon
for the simple quest
Tim,
Okay, I’ll see if I can glean some differences on web pages. But, pardon for
the simple question, what does “Dom” mean? “Dominant”, Dominion”, or an acronym?
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Hi,
When using DOM order, VO behaves more like those dreaded Windows screen readers
in that the page is not analyzed by VO where it attempts to group related items
together for faster browsing. Some folks have had VO make funny sounds while
it is in Group mode as, in some cases, these grouped
Tim,
If iCloud is not essential, then what is/are settings necessary to make sync
work? On my Mac and iPhone, they sync just fine. But on my old iPad Mini, they
do not sync.
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Tim, thanks. Found it. But now I’ve forgotten why this is significant. How do
these subtle differences affect my web browsing experience?
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Hi,
Enabling Messages in iCloud is not essential for syncing of Messages across
devices, nor is it essential for being able to send SMS messages from your Mac.
Yes, it does make your life easier as all messages are stored in iCloud when
this is checked which allows for syncing of message threa
Hi Dave,
It's in the Web category under the Navigation tab.
Later...
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Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Nov 17, 2019, at 22:07, Dave Carlson wrote:
Sorry, All I have are: Standard, Bookend Groups, Announce Gro
Hi,
Are you positive that it is the Messages app, not a mail message? If it is
indeed from the Messages app, You should be able to VO through the
Conversations table and the conversation with the offending message should say
something like "Messages Alert" or "Message send Error". When you fi
Hi!
I don’t know why i get a notice from the messages app on my mac that a message
could not be sent.
It keeps on popping up every time i start my mac and then it pops up now and
then so i get interupted in my work.
I don’t have this on my Iphone or Ipad minis.
So where can the message be?
What
Hi!Strange.It updates here but not sure what i am doing to make this happen./A18 nov. 2019 kl. 00:04 skrev Simon A Fogarty :Yerah I mentioned this a month or so back and still haven’t found a solution, As you say it’s working fine with emails even from my watch / phone / compu
Hi,
Running Catalina, I check "use column view in the view menu, and that gets rid
of the preview.
Bob Hill
> On Nov 17, 2019, at 3:10 PM, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I already have the preview lines set to 0.
> Oh well.
> Thanks.
>
>
>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 11:49 AM
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