Re: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread Dave Carlson
Kare, well, interesting. I also have an old iPhone 4S that is strictly an MP3 player now. Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns

Re: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
I intend to get a 2012 macbook pro 15 inches or larger, at some point. Using this iPhone as a teaching tool. as for what i presently use, that is beyond the scope of this list. Still the 2012 macbook pro larger screen is the last macbook pro with all three jacks, line in line out and headphon

RE: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Dave I don’t think a computer is wanted so I wouldn’t push. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Dave Carlson Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 4:49 PM To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: limitations of an unlocked iphone? Karen, why not just get a computer, then? Why

RE: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Just remember not all things can be done from the keyboard so gestures may be required. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 2:19 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: limitations of an unlocke

RE: More on my fan high speed problem.

2019-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty
I wouldn’t do that, although I have thought of remotely wiping the machines as the team I was part of don’t now have the knowledge to rebuild the machines From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 12:08 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: More on my f

Re: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread Dave Carlson
Karen, why not just get a computer, then? Why muddle along with an old iPhone with old iOS support? What exactly do you do — text messages, email? Dave Carlson Pioneer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, Engineer, and Musician -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac

Re: dom order

2019-11-18 Thread Lorie McCloud
I always had mine on group but since the latest update to Safari things haven't been working so well in that setting so I switched it to dom order and my problem went away. I may have other problems later but so far all is good. > On Nov 18, 2019, at 6:19 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > Dom order n

Re: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Hokay dokey, you know best. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 11/18/2019 5:51 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: On the contrary, part of my delays have come from trying to gesture. the keyboard is a full

Re: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
Thanks for the interesting information. this iPhone was originally associated with a mobile provider, given to me by a colleague who had no further use for the device. In Canada mobile providers are required to unlock devices for free..although they did try to lock the phone to themselves

Re: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
On the contrary, part of my delays have come from trying to gesture. the keyboard is a full sized one, built like a tank, and something I trust typing wise far more than random tapping. While I am open to learning as much as possible, I consider the gestures less important for my personal ne

Re: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
My iPhone is unlocked (bought outright from Apple, not as a carrier device, hence not locked to a specific carrier). All I needed to do was to install a SIM card (transferred the card from the previous iPhone), contacted the carrier, gave them the IMEI number as I recall, and it was working on

Re: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
You will still need to at least know the basic VO gestures. There is not that much risk of error. Besides, if something happens to the keyboard, you do want those VO gestures. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it

Re: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
Thanks for this. Still, I will be using an external keyboard exclusively, few if any jesting at all if possible. far too much risk for error. Cheers, Kare On Tue, 19 Nov 2019, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: thought I would copy and paste this from the Apple website for when you set up so you h

Re: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
thought I would copy and paste this from the Apple website for when you set up so you have some reference. Good luck Learn VoiceOver gestures on iPhone When VoiceOver is on, standard touchscreen gestures have different effects, and additional gestures let you move around the screen and control in

Re: dom order

2019-11-18 Thread Mike Arrigo
Dom order navigates the web page by object, in the order that the HTML specifies. This will usually be the setting you want. I have never really tried the group mode setting since the dom setting has always worked for me. > On Nov 17, 2019, at 3:51 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote: > > can somebody tel

RE: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
...okay! Everything crossed I can set this up successfully on Thursday. Apple accessibility already told me that there is an on board voiceover training present, providing guidance for using an external keyboard as well. Thanks everyone. On Mon, 18 Nov 2019, Simon A Fogarty wrote: Yeah so

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-18 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
How much? Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Nov 18, 2019, at 16:03, Simon A Fogarty wrote: Yeah cause we don’t already think your smart enough. I thought like petrus that if you deleted from one mac message dev

Re: More on my fan high speed problem.

2019-11-18 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Now, no leaking of classified information Simon ;). Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Nov 18, 2019, at 16:06, Simon A Fogarty wrote: Now that I think about it, I think it was after we put an ssd in to

RE: More on my fan high speed problem.

2019-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Now that I think about it, I think it was after we put an ssd in to it that the fan kicked in to life. Interesting though the ssd were purchased through a mac support agent so I would have thought been ok. Anyway not my issue now as don’t work for that company / organisation. Although I know I’

Re: More on my fan high speed problem.

2019-11-18 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Yes, there's no reason for a 2015 MBA with 8 GB of RAM to be made a paper weight of. There's some process that is causing the fans to engage, we just need to figure out why. Indexing should already be complete, so that's not an option in my opinion. You've checked Activity Monitor for pr

RE: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah cause we don’t already think your smart enough. I thought like petrus that if you deleted from one mac message device it should through your imessages / iCloud delete from the other synced devices e.g. delete from my watch deleted also from my iphone and iPad messages app. Hey I’ve got an

Re: More on my fan high speed problem.

2019-11-18 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, When this happened on iMacs, it was usually due to a non-Apple HD being installed after an HD failure. The non-Apple HD didn't interface properly with the sensors, and thus it turned the fans on just for fun. I don't recommend doing that in this situation as it is not a mis-reading of sen

RE: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Yeah so long as you have wifi then you can download apps on to it from the app store, And if your using it as a word processor or note taking device then notepad and or pages etc are all free to an Ios device these days. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Beha

RE: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty
If the phone is unlocked then there should be no limitations what so ever. The only thing you might need to do is have an old sim card to put in it to stop the prompting for a sim. It doesn't need to be a working sim, Then you could use it as a media device or camera etc. The thing is that it

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-18 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, I'm not sure. I haven't got an Apple Watch yet so I'm not totally familiar with the interactivity. Is it supposed to delete the message on the Apple Watch, or is it simply supposed to clear it from the Apple Watch display. I will do some research so I can pretend I'm smarter. Later...

RE: More on my fan high speed problem.

2019-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty
I’ve struck a similar thing on an iMac I used at work wit an earlier os. A mac tech gave me a fan controller to use and it worked great to bring the fan speed and control back to normal. Sorry I don’t know the name of it ut I’ll try and find out. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Beha

RE: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Hi Tim, I have Messages enabled on my phone within iCloud and I believe on my watch but will have to check that when have more time, Why then do messages deleted from my watch not sync back to deleted from my iPhone? From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 8:16

RE: Message could not be sent.

2019-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty
I'm assuming that you have checked iMesages for an unsent / undelivered message? -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 2:18 AM To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Subject: Message could not be sent. Hi!

RE: Message could not be sent.

2019-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty
Or possibly messages from facebook? From: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 4:58 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Message could not be sent. Hi, Are you positive that it is the Messages app, not a mail message? If it is indeed from the Message

RE: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-18 Thread Simon A Fogarty
I also get a situation on my watch that some of the apps on the screen don’t speak what the name of the app is. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Tuesday, 19 November 2019 1:36 AM To: 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries Subject: Re: Setting for the Message

Re: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
well that says allot given I have never used an IPhone at all. Still, I believe I get the idea. On Mon, 18 Nov 2019, Loy Green wrote: If you have a WiFi connection in your home you can use it just like an IPhone except make calls. - Original Message - From: "Karen Lewellen" To: "list

Re: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
actually nothing whatsoever. I only recently found a keyboard that will support the phone for more typing then anything else. Then there was all the time spent choosing a voice that hopefully will not stimulate my brain's dizzy centres. still you have confirmed that wifi does not require a s

Re: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread Caitlyn Furness
You can do everything you can do with a locked i phone except make phone calls. I think somebody also said that you’ll need wifi if you want to connect to the internet… HTH, Cait > On Nov 18, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Hi folks, > Am hoping to get a basic answer without nee

Re: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread Loy Green
If you have a WiFi connection in your home you can use it just like an IPhone except make calls. - Original Message - From: "Karen Lewellen" To: "list voiceover" Sent: Monday, November 18, 2019 4:24 PM Subject: limitations of an unlocked iphone? Hi folks, Am hoping to get a basic answ

Re: limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
What HAVE you been doing with this phone since you got it? Well you can use it for everything but make or receive phone calls. Connect it to wifi and there you go. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true?

limitations of an unlocked iphone?

2019-11-18 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi folks, Am hoping to get a basic answer without needing to join another list. I have an unlocked iPhone 5. I have no desire to get it subscribed to a service unless absolutely needful as it will not be used for phone calls. However, I may not have a choice, which is why I am asking. If I keep

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-18 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Good job. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Nov 18, 2019, at 13:06, Petrus Tuerlings wrote: Thanks, I checked again in the messages app on the Mac in the preferences and checked the iCloud setting and

Re: Message could not be sent.

2019-11-18 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! Yes i am sure as i can click somewhere in the alert notice and messages app opens. I have no luck with Catalina so far. Not very happy right now with it. /A > 18 nov. 2019 kl. 16:57 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > : > > Hi, > > Are you positive that it is the Messages app, not a m

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-18 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Thanks, I checked again in the messages app on the Mac in the preferences and checked the iCloud setting and now I just deleted an iMessage on my phone and it vanished from my Mac as well. So I think I have it by Jove > On 19/11/2019, at 08:15, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-18 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Thanks Tim, I’m sure I have all of those selected, but it’s not a big deal. Thanks again, > On 19/11/2019, at 08:14, Dave Carlson wrote: > > Petrus, > I suspect that iCloud would be necessary for deletions to show up. For > example, my iPad mini uses an old iOS that pre-dates messaging using

Re: More on my fan high speed problem.

2019-11-18 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! It has 8GB ram so i would be good to go i guess. /A > 18 nov. 2019 kl. 20:19 skrev 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > : > > Hi, > > How much RAM do you have in that MBA? A 2015 model should be fine if it has > 8 GB, but a 4 GB one might misbehave a little. > > Later... > \ > > Tim Kil

Re: More on my fan high speed problem.

2019-11-18 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, How much RAM do you have in that MBA? A 2015 model should be fine if it has 8 GB, but a 4 GB one might misbehave a little. Later... \ Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Nov 17, 2019, at 15:18, Anders Holmbe

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-18 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Yes, deleting would not sync across unless you have Messages in iCloud enabled. It would need to be enabled on all devices. There was links to that on the page I linked in my previous note. Basically though, you need to have Messages in iCloud enabled on all devices. On your Mac, that's

Re: dom order

2019-11-18 Thread Lorie McCloud
I don't mind the sounds in group ode. what I didn't like was that vo wasn't reading all the text. > On Nov 18, 2019, at 10:50 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > > When using DOM order, VO behaves more like those dreaded Windows screen > readers in that the page is not a

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-18 Thread Dave Carlson
Petrus, I suspect that iCloud would be necessary for deletions to show up. For example, my iPad mini uses an old iOS that pre-dates messaging using iCloud. Messages never delete on the iPad when deleted from my Mac or iPhone 8. They either need to expire on their own, or be deleted manually. Als

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-18 Thread Petrus Tuerlings
Hi Tim, Yes, I understand all that, well I thought I did. I have no problem syncing my messages between devices as far as sending and receiving goes. If I get a Text message or iMessage on my phone it will appear on my Mac , but it’s the deleting of messages that doesn’t happen. I just deleted a

Re: Disabeling Preview in Mac Mail Problems

2019-11-18 Thread 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries
Hello, Ok, i’ll give that a try. Thanks. > On Nov 18, 2019, at 2:23 AM, Robert Hill wrote: > > Hi, > > Running Catalina, I check "use column view in the view menu, and that gets > rid of the preview. > > Bob Hill > > >> On Nov 17, 2019, at 3:10 PM, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries >> wrot

Re: dom order

2019-11-18 Thread Dave Carlson
Ah, yes. That was going to be my other guess. Clear as mud, of course. Dave Carlson Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running o

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-18 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, All devices that you wish to use iMessages and SMS messages from your iPhone must use the same Apple ID, they must be linked from within Settings, Messages on the iPhone, and it's beneficial to have them all set to use your iPhone phone number as the default "send From" address. As I menti

Re: dom order

2019-11-18 Thread 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
Document Object Model. From E.T.'s Keyboard... ancient.ali...@icloud.com Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were true? On 11/18/2019 8:59 AM, Dave Carlson wrote: Tim, Okay, I’ll see if I can glean some differences on web pages. But, pardon for the simple quest

Re: dom order

2019-11-18 Thread Dave Carlson
Tim, Okay, I’ll see if I can glean some differences on web pages. But, pardon for the simple question, what does “Dom” mean? “Dominant”, Dominion”, or an acronym? Dave Carlson Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer -- The following information is important for all me

Re: dom order

2019-11-18 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, When using DOM order, VO behaves more like those dreaded Windows screen readers in that the page is not analyzed by VO where it attempts to group related items together for faster browsing. Some folks have had VO make funny sounds while it is in Group mode as, in some cases, these grouped

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-18 Thread Dave Carlson
Tim, If iCloud is not essential, then what is/are settings necessary to make sync work? On my Mac and iPhone, they sync just fine. But on my old iPad Mini, they do not sync. Dave Carlson Engineer, Pioneer, Farfar, Woodworker, Musician, and Oregonian -- The following information is important

Re: dom order

2019-11-18 Thread Dave Carlson
Tim, thanks. Found it. But now I’ve forgotten why this is significant. How do these subtle differences affect my web browsing experience? Dave Carlson Musician, Engineer, Farfar, Oregonian, Woodworker, and Pioneer -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionar

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-18 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Enabling Messages in iCloud is not essential for syncing of Messages across devices, nor is it essential for being able to send SMS messages from your Mac. Yes, it does make your life easier as all messages are stored in iCloud when this is checked which allows for syncing of message threa

Re: dom order

2019-11-18 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi Dave, It's in the Web category under the Navigation tab. Later... Tim Kilburn Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Jamf Certified Associate Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Nov 17, 2019, at 22:07, Dave Carlson wrote: Sorry, All I have are: Standard, Bookend Groups, Announce Gro

Re: Message could not be sent.

2019-11-18 Thread 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries
Hi, Are you positive that it is the Messages app, not a mail message? If it is indeed from the Messages app, You should be able to VO through the Conversations table and the conversation with the offending message should say something like "Messages Alert" or "Message send Error". When you fi

Message could not be sent.

2019-11-18 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi! I don’t know why i get a notice from the messages app on my mac that a message could not be sent. It keeps on popping up every time i start my mac and then it pops up now and then so i get interupted in my work. I don’t have this on my Iphone or Ipad minis. So where can the message be? What

Re: Setting for the Messages App on the Mac

2019-11-18 Thread Anders Holmberg
Hi!Strange.It updates here but not sure what i am doing to make this happen./A18 nov. 2019 kl. 00:04 skrev Simon A Fogarty :Yerah I mentioned this a month or so back and still haven’t found a solution, As you say it’s working fine with emails even from my watch / phone / compu

Re: Disabeling Preview in Mac Mail Problems

2019-11-18 Thread Robert Hill
Hi, Running Catalina, I check "use column view in the view menu, and that gets rid of the preview. Bob Hill > On Nov 17, 2019, at 3:10 PM, 'Danny Keys' via MacVisionaries > wrote: > > Hi, > I already have the preview lines set to 0. > Oh well. > Thanks. > > >> On Nov 17, 2019, at 11:49 AM