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On Fri, 15 Jul 2022, Violet Gill wrote:
> My mac does not have a Touch Bar its a M1 Mac mini. I may need to acquire
> another monitor maybe that will fix it so voiceover can finally come back on
> and those beeps can
Yes, the standard vo + key commands work fine. For example, vo + a from
current position to end of screen. Interact with text when in
terminal works best. There are screen readers meant for terminal such as
speakup; and a google will find them. Here are two I know nothing
about but work in
As I recall you have used the double/triple synth voices, as did I for many
years. I hate the default alex foice on the mac. The tom voice
comes closest to the double/triple voices.
On Mon, 20 Jun 2022, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> Jonathan
> ,
> auditory processing is a brain injury, I am not
I called 2 days ago and was asked what my disability is. We then went right
into my issue. Perhaps callers can make a point to mention this at the start.
On Fri, 27 May 2022, Bill Gallik wrote:
> I must say, this certainly is a serious problem. I haven???t called in for
> about 18 months
Update the downloading engine - youtube-dl that does the actual download. Some
weeks ago youtube/google was throttling downloads, no profit
for them by you avoiding ads. I have read the most recent upgrades does a run
around youtube/google on the throttling.
On Mon, 11 Apr 2022, Lorie
and if I go back to copyclip via Aplication
> folder I get the original message of no window. Maybe I am approaching it
> incorrectly? Ron.
>
>
> > On 25 Feb 2022, at 15:41, dan d. wrote:
> >
> >
> > That was the prior version to flycut, free on the app store. I
That was the prior version to flycut, free on the app store. I used it before
flycut, what have you found not to work? Both install the same
and work the same. Flycut has more features.
On Fri, 25 Feb 2022, 'Ron' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi there, has anyone used CopyClip.? It is a no
No utility is required because a terminal command easily does it; which the
utility likely duplicates. While in terminal and in the flash
drive do this command which removes all .folders or single .files, make sure
none of them are neededd as are some in a users home directory.
make note of
??s doing. Are you
> using regular Tom?
>
> Dave Carlson
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>
> On Jan 25, 2022, at 11:25 AM, dan d. wrote:
>
>
>
> These kind of things tend to be voice specific. I use tom and it doesn't do
> as descri
These kind of things tend to be voice specific. I use tom and it doesn't do as
described. It has its own foibles however. The speech rules
appear to be somewhat different for various voices.
On Mon, 24 Jan 2022, Dave Carlson wrote:
> On my Mac, I???d like to find a simple solution for
It was fixed starting with the late 2014 models. It was a hardware thing not
os version related.
On Sat, 22 Jan 2022, Shai wrote:
> Hello all,
> I am considering the purchase of an m1 Mac Mini. I recall that in
> previous versions of the operating system that VoiceOver would become
>
Have you tried recording from an url using your apps to see if it makes a
difference?
On Wed, 19 Jan 2022, Michael Busboom wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I recently heard a program on local radio that fascinated me. I would like to
> record it before it disappears. The local radio stations let you listen
To know what any key commands do, vo+k goes into keyboard help. When hitting a
key or combination it will announce what it does. Press
escape to leave help.
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022, Fazil M. wrote:
> Hi, Group.
>
> What does the command VO-X do (pressing once or twice)?
>
> Thanks!
>
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There is a direct connect mode between mac machines. Using a thunderbolt port
on each a cable lets one have the host machine access the hard
drive of the other as though it is just another drive on the host machine. I
suggesst you go to an apple store or phone apple disability
support on
Here is the mac for beginners mailing list which would seem justwhat you need
for basic info.
As I recall this is the subscribe mail address:
mac-vo-beginners+subscr...@groups.io
On Thu, 2 Dec 2021, Many of us wrote:
> Does anyone have any reference material in text format, on how to learn
An existing tv you have with a h d m i input will work if you only need visual
acces occasionally..
On Fri, 29 Oct 2021, Brad Snyder wrote:
> You should be able to get a decent monitor for under $200 USD pretty much
> anywhere.
>
>
> - Brad -
>
>
> On Oct 29, 2021, at 17:10, Phil Halton
There are also adaptors using a thunderbolt port.
On Fri, 29 Oct 2021, Brad Snyder wrote:
> Pretty much any monitor will work. Be aware that the Mac mini has an HDMI
> port, so if the monitor you choose has something other than an HDMI port, you
> will need an adapter/dongle to connect the
Sounds like a question to be addressed to apple disability, use this number:
877 204 3930On Thu, 28 Oct 2021, 'Kristeen Hughes' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> I???m helping a friend who just got her new Mini with the M1 chip. She has it
> plugged in and turned it on. Is there a special key
Not since the introduction of the 2014 model line has that been an issue.
On Thu, 28 Oct 2021, Rebecca Skipper wrote:
> Is a monitor connected to the Mini?
>
> If not, a dongle that emulates a monitor should work.
>
> I???ve heard of blind users having trouble if a monitor or adapter was not
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Sometimes when I reboot or start my mac the option-t key time announcement
commander doesn't work.
Is it possible to activate that key commander without restarting and is there
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If scanned it is a graphic of text, needs ocr.
On Sat, 3 Jul 2021, Steve Z. wrote:
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> A friend of mine sent me a .txt file that was written or scanned on windows.
> When I opened it on Mac, couldn???t read it. What should I do?
> Thanks
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> youtube.
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It should be in the app store for both the mac and ios devices.
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> But don???t you need the Alexa device then?
> If not then I will download that.
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> > 21 juni 2021 kl. 15:28 skrev dan d. :
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> > On Jun 7, 2021, at 15:00, dan d. wrote:
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> >
> >
> > A key commander can use all 26 letter keys and all numbers if you use the
> > numpad commmander version.
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2021, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
is quite strange because it should have been sending the "perform
> command" message to commander with an argument of "actions".
>
> If anybody wants to play with this code and see if they can get better
> results I would be interested.
>
> Jonatha
ne volume to another?
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> I know there is ???mv??? in there, but don???t remember the spaces and other
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Your machine uses thunderbolt 2. There are thunderbolt3 to thunderbolt2
adaptors. The usb--c and thunderbolt3 ports are the same. I
predictt the thunderbolt line of connections will be merged into the usb line
of connectivity.
On Wed, 14 Apr 2021, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>
The macmini has the new chip and computing power equal to an imac.
On Sat, 13 Mar 2021, Marie Lyons wrote:
> I looked on the Apple store app on my phone and noticed they all had the
> intel processor. Did I miss something or is the new Apple processor only on
> the iPads and MacBooks ? Can
I would look for used and refurbished mac sources; who likely have older
keyboards also. My local apple store says apple can supply one if
your current one is sent back to be refurbished.
On Fri, 5 Mar 2021, 'Andy Logue' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> As a consequence of poor tactile
Before the time of the internet newspaper archives were on microfilm. Some
major papers have put those images online but will require ocr to
access them.
On Thu, 4 Mar 2021, Ian Harrison wrote:
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>
> I am doing a dissertation in the UK and need to access newspaper archives
>
Unless of course the uber driver sees your dog and somehow just cann't find you
as he drives on by.
On Sat, 27 Feb 2021, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
> > Well, we are getting a little off the Acple topic here. In the United
> > States, the ada requires these services to accept service dogs. the
One way to check if it is mapped to any mac/voiceover function is to vo+k for
keyboard help mode where key commands are announced when
pressed.
On Thu, 18 Feb 2021, Brad Snyder wrote:
> Sounds like you have a keyboard with a Windows layout.
> My guess is that your mystery key is the Fn-key.
When you open terminal you are in your home folder. Use just ~/documents/"time
of Day.applescript" for the copy. Note, if a file or
directory name contains spaces enclose it with quotation marks as shown.
That script is an example used in a key commander that comes with os10, so any
new
There are ftp and sftp in terminal and work flawlessly.
On Mon, 1 Feb 2021, Herbie Allen wrote:
> What do you all recommend for accessing FTP servers on the Mac?
>
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> Cheers,
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> > ???It shows up in menu extras and can be accessed and configured. It can
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> > monitor, or in the extras menu.
> > And its not s
to happen.
> I can???t delete it because its running, but it is not in activity monitor,
> or in the extras menu.
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> > On Jan 11, 2021, at 8:46 AM, dan d. wrote:
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> >
> > I use flycut it is open source and free, the
I use flycut it is open source and free, the app. store. Its easy to use and
configure, I wouldn't do without it.
On Sun, 10 Jan 2021, Christina wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Are there any good and safe Mac Clipboard manager/history apps that are
> accessible?
>
> Thanks,
> Christina
>
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I find alex a bother, too cute by far with those distracting attempts to sound
human but missing the mark.
I use tom which has none of the alex faults but perfectly intelligible and does
not draw attention to itself; like most of the other voices.
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Chris Westbrook wrote:
That is one of the novelty voices that add sound effects. That one makes each
sylable sound like the overtones of a bell ringing. There
about 4 of them. One I don't recall sings the text. Easily found on googlee
using os10 novelty voices.
On Mon, 28 Dec 2020, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>
Aside from audio connection, does this permit any other shared function between
the two devices?
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi Fazil. Do you have the Amazon A L E X A app on your phone? If so, find
> your device in the app and select bluetooth. Once
There is a vo system configuration to have the vo cursor track the system and
mouse cursors. That way the vo cursor is where you have navigated. Vo key
commands continue to work independently of this feature.
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020, Brad Snyder wrote:
> Without knowing what website you are
There is alexa for smartphones and other devices like tablets that work like an
echo device. It is different then the smartphone app to
manage preferences.
On Wed, 11 Nov 2020, Phil Halton wrote:
> Hi Janet, I got the microwave today and it is set up and working. I
> pre-positioned a lock
Vo+k will bring up keyboard help. Pressing a key or combination will announce
its function.
On Sun, 1 Nov 2020, Lorie McCloud wrote:
> I ordered a keyboard for my Mac that said it can be used with either a Mac or
> a windows computer. it has 4 keys on each side of the spacebar. the one on
>
, 30 Sep 2020, dan d. wrote:
>
> This raises a question, what does slow mean? Is it slow in loading apps. and
> otherwise responding or is it slow to bootup ?
>
> A ssd isn't going to make a difference to any large degree with usual app.
> functionality.
>
> I have
This raises a question, what does slow mean? Is it slow in loading apps. and
otherwise responding or is it slow to bootup ?
A ssd isn't going to make a difference to any large degree with usual app.
functionality.
I have a macmini the same model as your's. The harddrive went bad and I
Sftp in terminal works flawlessly. Termanal is a fully functioning unix
derived shel with no shortcomings.
On Sat, 19 Sep 2020, maurice mines wrote:
> Good afternoon everyone, I'm writing to ask about transmit for the Mac,
> I am attempting to use this application to send files to a X server
To get local tv use an inexpensive hd digital antenna that plugss into the tv.
Yu get local channels and their sub-channels.
On Sat, 19 Sep 2020, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I am thinking about subscribing to YouTube TV for use on my Apple TV device.
>
>
> Does anyone know if the
The scripts you refer to are apple scripts and are not limited to voiceover
functions.
Here is the specific location of the time/date script you want:
/library/scripts/voiceover
The name of the script is:
Time Of Day.applescript
On Thu, 10 Sep 2020, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
> Well, I expect
The key above 7 on the numpad.
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, Lorie McCloud wrote:
> can somebody tell me where the numlock is on a standard Apple keyboard or
> where to find that info?
>
> thanks.
> Lorie
>
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2020, 'Robert Cole' via MacVisionaries wrote:
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> Can you suggest a free accessible FTP app for the Mac?
> Thanks,
> Rob
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I have a suggestion for doing google searches. As you no doubt discovered
using voiceover as a single search term also brings up the practice
of adding voice commentary.
Use as the first search term os10, that is the generic term for the mac
operating system. Then add voiceover and the
It includes the death of boot camp also.
On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, Barry Hadder wrote:
> I thought some might find this to be an interesting read regarding Apple???s
> upcoming mac architecture.
>
> >
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On Mon, 18 May 2020, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> I can also tell you one more thing, I was walking through the bus station one
> day and I was just coming off a step and another person came rushing in front
> of me, and she fell down in slow motion. There was nothing I could
If what you have is doing what you need, updates are superfluous.
Beyond appple marketing stratigy hype, I never understood the obsession with
updates unless they had features of value for my needs.
Updates caan present undesired items, such as having to add shift to many
combination
A hard drive's health can be checked in diskutil either in terminal, my choice,
or in the desktop. I will provide the terminal version first
and the desktop version in a web url below. . Following the terminal result is
a statement of whaat the result means.
There is a diskutil command in
When on a link; vo+u, some newer versions adds shift, will speak the url of
that link, which the copy lastt phrase command can captre for pasting.
How does one know the url of the current page with vo?
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> > On May 6, 2020, at 9:34 PM, Ramy Moustafa Saber ??
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> > ???so, what is the solution?
> >
> >
> >> On May 6, 2020, at 6:43 PM, dan d. wrote:
>
I would venture a guess that clicking on the first message downloaded a malware
item, maybe a web tracker.
The safari security on the mac is finding it and sending the message you
mention.
On Wed, 6 May 2020, Ramy Moustafa Saber رامي مصطفى صابر wrote:
> Hi all:
>
> From about 2 weeks, i start
When in terminal make sure to set interact with text. If there are multiple
ommand output lines one can use vo+up and down keyss to
review the output line by line. Vo+a will read from cursor down.
Many commands are shortened versions,ie. cp for copy, mv for move and so forth.
Often using a
If it doesn't mount; what good any recovery software?
If you have experience with the terminal it is sometimes possible to force an
external drive mount.
If you don't know terminal, find someone who does. Might this be a question
for apple disability with them using a remote hookup to view
ws
Recently I replaced a failed hard drive with a ssd.
A ssd can have max storage performance and usable life enhanced by setting trim.
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Starting with os10.10.4 a terminal utility called trimforce is included to do
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An original mac ssd already
Onn a fullsize keyboard there is a mute key that toggles all sound on and off.
It is f10 on mykeyboard, or the third key to the left of the eject key on the
top row.
The eject key is the one at the top far right corner of the main keyboard.
Note, system preferences can set the fuction keys to
Your home account name is found in the users folder. Rename it as you desire,
your password will not change.
On Sat, 4 Apr 2020, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Thanks for the pointer, Andrew. I was there before, but didn't realize I
> needed to adjust the browser to show
ce DNS
> looks in /etc/hosts first, for historic reasons as explained above,
> it'll find it's answer and fail to deliver the ad, because it was told
> that the machine was your local machine.
>
> Example:
>
> bad.host 127.0.0.1
> downright.evil.host 127.0.0.1
>
> It's ra
Even better is to replace or edit the "hosts" file on the mac.
This is used by modern operating systems for connecting to the internet. It
will block sites also including ads and other undesirable urls.
A google for "os10 hosts" will get many results.
On Thu, 2 Apr 2020, David The Computer
I'm interested to find where in terminal the icloud folder can be found.
The answers on the web did not find it in terminal.
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It is quite good for the voice range and music is like with a small radio.
If you want it for fuller music sound the mini jack allows an external speaker
or the blutooth for a compatible speaker.
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi All:
>
> Wondering whether
Try it, it works in the bash shell in termimal.
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020, Nebojsa Tasic wrote:
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> I use Terminal for running a PHP framework. I'm pleased how it works now.
>
> The only thing, on Windows, using up arrow,?? I can select previous used
> commands and don't have to type them again. Is it
In system preferences there is a notification category, there are checkmarks to
silence notifications.
On Fri, 21 Feb 2020, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This is driving me spare! I???m uploading loads of stuff to dropbox,
> including backing up my home folder.
When in terminal use the passwd command and follow the prompts.
On Thu, 20 Feb 2020, wayne coles wrote:
> hello list i have a problem i asked before and got a answer but i have
> lost the email so i need it resent if possible so i need to know how to
> get to the terminal from a shut down state
The memory history is over ridden each time a new copy to the clipboard is done.
It is very useful to be able to choose one or more items from previous
clipboard items to paste.
I use a memory manager which retains a list of cllipboard history items for
reuse at will.
One arrows to the item
Did you do a reboot? The dock info is read each time as part of it.
On Thu, 7 Nov 2019, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
> OK, I took the plunge and went to preferences then started up TimeMachine and
> found a version from before the re-boot that messed up my dock. I then did a
> restore and did a ps
, Greg Wocher wrote:
> Hello,
> I tried installing Skim and I can???t get my mac to let me open it. My mac
> keeps telling me it cannot scan it for viruses.
>
> Greg Wocher
>
> > On Nov 6, 2019, at 12:05 PM, dan d. wrote:
> >
> >
> > This is an open sour
This is an open source pdf viewer for os10. It is free, small and fast- skim.
I have no experience using it for the original poster's purposes.
https://skim-app.sourceforge.io/
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019, Dave Carlson wrote:
> For free, likely not. Prizmo, Fine Reader, and Docuscan in order of
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and
I cann't stand alex either,
I use tom because it is to my ear more crisp and succinct and having fewer
distracting artifacts of trying to make it sound like a person.
On Sun, 15 Sep 2019, Anne Robertson wrote:
> Hello Dave,
>
> I presume you???ve tried all the other English-language voices
Sometimes such things are voice dependent quirks. Use the voice roter to pick
a temp voice or two.
Otherwise, try a more positive attitude.
On Sat, 14 Sep 2019, Dave Carlson wrote:
> Yes, Mine has been set to ???some??? and Also to ???All???. Still no joy.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Pioneer,
It is already there, both voice control of functions and dictation of text.
There is much web info available, here is an example:
Use Dictation Commands to tell your Mac what to do - Apple Support
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203085
On Fri, 13 Sep 2019, Hemachandran Karaha wrote:
> Hi
The native mac dictation is derived from it.
On Thu, 12 Sep 2019, Trahern Culver wrote:
>
>
> hi everyone, I hope your well. I'm currently running high Sierra in uni I
> used to use dragon dictate but I've heard that nuance has pretty much
> abandoned dragon dictate on Mac so whats a good
Most navigation commmands involving vo access are among those to be chosen when
constructing a commander of any kind.
The numpad commandders are different only because they use the option+keys on
the numpad;
which the computer sees differently then the same key combinations on the
main
A commander using numbers different from those on the main keyboard can be
established with those on the numpad.
For an example, a commander using an option+ 3 on the main keyboard and an
option + 3 on the numpad would do different things.
On Fri, 6 Sep 2019, Hemachandran Karaha wrote:
> Hi
With the terminal version, speedtest-cli, the destination server and more can
be configured.
On Wed, 4 Sep 2019, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> Hi Tim,
>
> I didn???t see any option to set the target server,
>
> But that would explain why the ping is so high.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 4/09/2019,
For use in terminal; macports and homebrew have speedtest-cli which is a text
only version of the speedtest.net results.
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How is this different in function then the vo+return at start and end of
desired text to select it ?
A cmd+c will copy it for use elsewhere.
On Sun, 1 Sep 2019, Anne Robertson wrote:
> Hello Leo,
>
> You can select text between two markers in any text document on the Mac if
> you do the
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