Re: Is this really Apple software???

2011-07-27 Thread Ricardo Walker
Lol, How do you know VO users who are sufficiently expert weren't beta testers. Just because someone reports a bug in a beta cycle, doesn't mean its going to be fixed. It might not be reproducible by the company or the bug you reported might not be of high priority to them so don't get

Re: Is this really Apple software???

2011-07-27 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, I remember the cursor bug as well. When you had your mouse cursor set to follow your VO cursor, some funny things would happen. lol Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 26, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: I got snow leppard the

Re: Is this really Apple software???

2011-07-27 Thread David Taylor
I'm sure a company as clever as Apple would be able to find a way of making sure that they were! Not everybody would want to do it anyway, and how is this any different from ensuring non VO users are sufficiently expert? Come on, we're in the real world with Apple, not the blind world where

Re: Is this really Apple software???

2011-07-27 Thread Ricardo Walker
What are you talking about? You've completely lost me. I just asked how do you know there weren't people who weren't sufficiently expert in the Mac who just happen to be VO users. Just because you encounter bugs when you get the public release of an application doesn't mean beta testers

Is this really Apple software???

2011-07-26 Thread Larry Wanger
Hi, I'm sure that some of what I'm about to say has already been posted by others on this list. But, in the interests of documenting bugs and seeking solutions that may have been found I want to share some of my experiences with Lion. Honestly, I can't believe that Lion was released in its

Re: Is this really Apple software???

2011-07-26 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hello Larry. Wow! It sounds like you are having one heck of a time with Lion after you're upgrade. I'd suggest repairing disk permissions to start. Another thing you might try is to download a mac maintenance tool like onyx to run some of the general mac maintenance tasks. The problems you are

Re: Is this really Apple software???

2011-07-26 Thread Chris Westbrook
While it seems unlikely, I suppose it is possible spotlight is still indexing your files if you don't leave your mac turned on. If you do a command space and then vo+down arrow does it say anything about spotlight helping to find files and that not all results may be include? If so, leave

Re: Is this really Apple software???

2011-07-26 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hey Larry. It sounds to me like you're expecting a bit too much out of this operating system. Remember, Lion only got released last Wednesday so of course there would be bugs and what not to work out. Now I admit that I haven't used a Mac until last year, but I could imagine how many bugs Snow

Re: Is this really Apple software???

2011-07-26 Thread David Taylor
Another good post. I'm experiencing the pitch change with Nuance and have indeed emailed accessibility. Given that 10.7.2 is already seeded, I'm sure 10.7.1 can't be far from hitting us. Frankly, what we need to do is let them know about the VO issues so that hopefully in the future VO users

Re: Is this really Apple software???

2011-07-26 Thread Bryan Jones
Hello Larry, I have one suggestion and one verification regarding two of your issues. Regarding mail freezing when looking at certain types of messages: DO you have mail set to automatically load remote images? If yes, perhaps you could try turning off that feature unless you really need them

Re: Is this really Apple software???

2011-07-26 Thread Mike Arrigo
You might try doing a clean install of the operating system and see if that makes a difference. Usually, installing a new operating system as an upgrade can cause problems. On Jul 26, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Larry Wanger wrote: Hi, I'm sure that some of what I'm about to say has already been

Re: Is this really Apple software???

2011-07-26 Thread Mike Arrigo
I got snow leppard the day it came out. The one major bug I remember was in safari, when a page loaded, voiceover would start somewhere in the middle of a page. That was fixed in the first update. Other than that, it worked fine. I'm probably going to install lion tonight, but I have a backup

RE: Is this really Apple software???

2011-07-26 Thread Missy Hoppe
@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike Arrigo Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:12 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Is this really Apple software??? You might try doing a clean install of the operating system and see if that makes a difference. Usually