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2017-11-11 Thread Phil Halton
following groups: Apple 411: apple411+subscr...@groups.io >>>>> iMessage/FaceTime: the.big.apple.n...@gmail.com >>>>>> On Nov 7, 2017, at 3:56 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I love it. >

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2017-11-11 Thread David Chittenden
gt;>> I love it. >>>>> >>>>> I Knew it wouldn't take long. >>>>> But I dind't think it would be this short a time. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -Original Message- >>>>> From: macvisionaries@goog

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2017-11-11 Thread lenron brown
gt;>> I love it. >>>> >>>> I Knew it wouldn't take long. >>>> But I dind't think it would be this short a time. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>&g

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2017-11-10 Thread Maria Reyes
wouldn't take long. >>> But I dind't think it would be this short a time. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Saqib Hussain >>> Sent: Tue

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2017-11-10 Thread E.T.
Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2017 3:37 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET Hi. This morning I read an article where younger sibling managed to unlock an iPhone 10 and they were most definitely not twins. Mac rumou

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2017-11-10 Thread Maria Reyes
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours > - CNET > > Hi. This morning I read an article where younger sibling managed to unlock an > iPhone 10 and they were most definitely not twins. Mac rumours has t

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2017-11-07 Thread Simon Fogarty
@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET Hi. This morning I read an article where younger sibling managed to unlock an iPhone 10 and they were most definitely not twins. Mac rumours has the story. > On 1 Nov 2017, at 17:00, Tim Kilburn <

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2017-11-06 Thread Saqib Hussain
ion of it. >>> Which I believe is only retinal scan. Or was it iris scanning. >>> >>> But either way, >>> If the looking directly at the phone / screen feature is auto disabled if >>> vo is active, is that not a good feature for us as they have seen there ma

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2017-11-04 Thread lenron brown
active, is that not a good feature for us as they have seen >> > there may be an issue for blind / VI users looking actually at the phone >> > camera. >> > To me this is a forward thought. >> > >> > -Original Message- >> > From: macvision

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2017-11-01 Thread Tim Kilburn
good feature for us as they have seen there may > > be an issue for blind / VI users looking actually at the phone camera. > > To me this is a forward thought. > > > > -Original Message----- > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:macvis

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2017-11-01 Thread Robin
ght. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn > Sent: Wednesday, 1 November 2017 12:56 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our

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2017-11-01 Thread Tim Kilburn
> -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn > Sent: Wednesday, 1 November 2017 12:56 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18

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2017-11-01 Thread Simon Fogarty
- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Sent: Wednesday, 1 November 2017 7:06 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET Why do you Beleive Apple's Face

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2017-11-01 Thread Simon Fogarty
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Sent: Wednesday, 1 November 2017 5:48 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET Will you Take It (that is Apple's NEW iPhoneX)? If SomeOne gave you the Choice between $1150

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2017-11-01 Thread Robin
ilburn Sent: Wednesday, 1 November 2017 12:56 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET Hi, While I don't wish to minimize anyone's concerns, Face ID even without the eye contact feature is still very secure. Y

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2017-11-01 Thread Robin
.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, 1 November 2017 8:37 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET Thanks for posting. I wasn't going to buy in iPhone X. And after rea

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2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET Hi, While I don't wish to minimize anyone's concerns, Face ID even without the eye contact feature is still very secure. You basically need to be a twin to be able to fool the system from most things I've heard or read. When the finger-print

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2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET Hi Tim, And, many of the people who use OCR and person helping distance video links are complaining about how we do not need or benefit from improved cameras. Kind regards

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2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
-Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Chittenden Sent: Wednesday, 1 November 2017 12:03 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET We do

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2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, 1 November 2017 11:34 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET "Copy Samsung" is probably an unfortunate phrase. The fact remains, even for sigh

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2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
2017 11:12 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways from our first 18 hours - CNET That's one thing I really hate about the X you have to take it out to unlock it and face id is not even as fast as touch ID. Because of an insurance claim I ended

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2017-10-31 Thread Simon Fogarty
till Friday for my phone to arrive. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, 1 November 2017 8:37 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways

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2017-10-31 Thread Robin
Will you Take It (that is Apple's NEW iPhoneX)? If SomeOne gave you the Choice between $1150 or Apple's NEW iPhoneX 256GB? I'd MostLikely take the Money & Purchase Apple's iPhone8 256GB & Keep the Change, which would probably be about $300 At 04:48 PM 10/31/2017, you wrote: Likewise. If

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2017-10-31 Thread lenron brown
Uggh just because it's apple most people will act like they can't do no wrong. My big thing is it's not that face id is useless it's not as good as using touch id. In terms of speed. Yes I could enter my pin but it's still faster for me to use touch Id. I don't have a problem with a company

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2017-10-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, While I don't wish to minimize anyone's concerns, Face ID even without the eye contact feature is still very secure. You basically need to be a twin to be able to fool the system from most things I've heard or read. When the finger-print sensor was first introduced on the iPhone, there

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2017-10-31 Thread E.T.
Likewise. If someone hands me an iPhone X I will take it home and use it. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did it." --Carl Sagan E-mail:

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2017-10-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
May be they don't know how to put Tuch ID in the screen yet. May be when they know, touch ID will be put back in their future designs of phones. I think Apple want to get it right before they put Touch ID back in the screen. that is my guess although I might be wrong. I wonder what else

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2017-10-31 Thread Mary Otten
The thing that makes me sad is that Apple, by all accounts, including theirs, is abandoning touch ID completely on the phone. The security issue is specifically if you disable that part of face id that requires you to actually look at the phone. I think I read that this will be off by default

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2017-10-31 Thread David Chittenden
Hi Tim, And, many of the people who use OCR and person helping distance video links are complaining about how we do not need or benefit from improved cameras. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +61 488 988 936 Sent from my iPhone > On 1 Nov 2017,

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2017-10-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi David, I love your prospective. Very useful and logical point of view. I will definitely keep your points in mind when opinions about camera usage by the blind and visually impaired are put out there. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Oct 31, 2017, at 17:03, David

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2017-10-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
As for Apple Pay, I'll use my watch to do that, no need to depend on a phone! I am looking forward to the X despite what everyone says or complains about. As far as I am concerned, people always complain when there is change but once people get use to it, there is no fuss. I like change and

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2017-10-31 Thread David Chittenden
Incorrect, passcode entry works on the iPhone X. I do agree that quick unlock with Face ID will be annoying as I keep my phone in my pocket and use it for some tasks. Kind regards, David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +61 488 988 936 Sent from my iPhone > On 1 Nov

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2017-10-31 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Thank you Mark for this article. I have now committed my money to the I phone x so it will be interesting to see how it is from a blindness prospective. Kawal. > On 31 Oct 2017, at 18:41, M. Taylor wrote: > > CNET News - Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 3:38 AM > iPhone X review:

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2017-10-31 Thread David Chittenden
We do not believe a camera is useful for blind people. Just believing so definitely does not make it true or correct. In fact, many people believe many things which are not true, and no matter how many people believe it, those things remain untrue. Consider the camera for instance. Blind

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2017-10-31 Thread E.T.
I don't understand the fuss. We are talking about a mainstream device, right? And we also live in the digital age where virtual crime runs rampant. If Face ID adds a layer of security, all the better. I was planning to look at the new iPhone 7s models but since that is not happening, I

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2017-10-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Yes, whatever model suits your needs and budget is likely the best. I don't have any urge to purchase an iPhone X, but I wouldn't turn it down if someone gave me one. I don't find the Face ID to be a security problem and I seem to remember a lot of noise about the finger-print sensor

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2017-10-31 Thread Mary Otten
"Copy Samsung" is probably an unfortunate phrase. The fact remains, even for sighted people, this sounds like a pain. And for us, to make it work, you have to give up some security, because you turn off that thing where you have to actually sort of make eye contact with the phone. So for us, I

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2017-10-31 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I highly doubt that Apple will copy Samsung. Apple tends to start a path and keep right on going down that path. All sorts of noise was made about lighting connectors, about the removal of the headphone etc, and Apple didn't go back and re-introduce those features that they removed.

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2017-10-31 Thread lenron brown
That's one thing I really hate about the X you have to take it out to unlock it and face id is not even as fast as touch ID. Because of an insurance claim I ended up having to upgrade to the 7plus. So I will stick with it for a while I think. It's a 128 so enough storage and all. On 10/31/17,

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2017-10-31 Thread Mary Otten
Thanks for posting. I wasn't going to buy in iPhone X. And after reading this, if I'd had thought of it, I would've change my mind. I think Samsung have the right idea with keeping the fingerprint sensor. There are just too many use cases where this could be a problem. And I like Apple Pay and