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>>>>>> On Nov 7, 2017, at 3:56 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> I love it.
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gt;>> I love it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I Knew it wouldn't take long.
>>>>> But I dind't think it would be this short a time.
>>>>>
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>>>>> From: macvisionaries@goog
gt;>> I love it.
>>>>
>>>> I Knew it wouldn't take long.
>>>> But I dind't think it would be this short a time.
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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wouldn't take long.
>>> But I dind't think it would be this short a time.
>>>
>>>
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>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Saqib Hussain
>>> Sent: Tue
Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2017 3:37 AM
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CNET
Hi. This morning I read an article where younger sibling managed to unlock an
iPhone 10 and they were most definitely not twins. Mac rumou
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> - CNET
>
> Hi. This morning I read an article where younger sibling managed to unlock an
> iPhone 10 and they were most definitely not twins. Mac rumours has t
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Hi. This morning I read an article where younger sibling managed to unlock an
iPhone 10 and they were most definitely not twins. Mac rumours has the story.
> On 1 Nov 2017, at 17:00, Tim Kilburn <
ion of it.
>>> Which I believe is only retinal scan. Or was it iris scanning.
>>>
>>> But either way,
>>> If the looking directly at the phone / screen feature is auto disabled if
>>> vo is active, is that not a good feature for us as they have seen there ma
active, is that not a good feature for us as they have seen
>> > there may be an issue for blind / VI users looking actually at the phone
>> > camera.
>> > To me this is a forward thought.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: macvision
good feature for us as they have seen there may
> > be an issue for blind / VI users looking actually at the phone camera.
> > To me this is a forward thought.
> >
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> > [mailto:macvis
ght.
>
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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
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Why do you Beleive Apple's Face
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Will you Take It (that is Apple's NEW iPhoneX)?
If SomeOne gave you the Choice between $1150
ilburn
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Hi,
While I don't wish to minimize anyone's concerns, Face ID even
without the eye contact feature is still very secure. Y
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Thanks for posting. I wasn't going to buy in iPhone X. And after
rea
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Hi,
While I don't wish to minimize anyone's concerns, Face ID even without the eye
contact feature is still very secure. You basically need to be a twin to be
able to fool the system from most things I've heard or read. When the
finger-print
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Hi Tim,
And, many of the people who use OCR and person helping distance video links are
complaining about how we do not need or benefit from improved cameras.
Kind regards
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On Behalf Of David Chittenden
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We do
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"Copy Samsung" is probably an unfortunate phrase. The fact remains, even for
sigh
2017 11:12 AM
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That's one thing I really hate about the X you have to take it out to unlock it
and face id is not even as fast as touch ID. Because of an insurance claim I
ended
till Friday for my phone to arrive.
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Subject: Re: iPhone X review: 14 important takeaways
Will you Take It (that is Apple's NEW iPhoneX)?
If SomeOne gave you the Choice between $1150 or Apple's NEW iPhoneX 256GB?
I'd MostLikely take the Money & Purchase Apple's iPhone8 256GB &
Keep the Change, which would probably be about $300
At 04:48 PM 10/31/2017, you wrote:
Likewise. If
Uggh just because it's apple most people will act like they can't do
no wrong. My big thing is it's not that face id is useless it's not as
good as using touch id. In terms of speed. Yes I could enter my pin
but it's still faster for me to use touch Id. I don't have a problem
with a company
Hi,
While I don't wish to minimize anyone's concerns, Face ID even without the eye
contact feature is still very secure. You basically need to be a twin to be
able to fool the system from most things I've heard or read. When the
finger-print sensor was first introduced on the iPhone, there
Likewise. If someone hands me an iPhone X I will take it home and
use it.
From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the
mysteries of the world, all the challenges to
our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan
E-mail:
May be they don't know how to put Tuch ID in the screen yet. May be when they
know, touch ID will be put back in their future designs of phones. I think
Apple want to get it right before they put Touch ID back in the screen. that
is my guess although I might be wrong.
I wonder what else
The thing that makes me sad is that Apple, by all accounts, including theirs,
is abandoning touch ID completely on the phone. The security issue is
specifically if you disable that part of face id that requires you to actually
look at the phone. I think I read that this will be off by default
Hi Tim,
And, many of the people who use OCR and person helping distance video links are
complaining about how we do not need or benefit from improved cameras.
Kind regards,
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone
> On 1 Nov 2017,
Hi David,
I love your prospective. Very useful and logical point of view. I will
definitely keep your points in mind when opinions about camera usage by the
blind and visually impaired are put out there.
Later...
Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
On Oct 31, 2017, at 17:03, David
As for Apple Pay, I'll use my watch to do that, no need to depend on a phone!
I am looking forward to the X despite what everyone says or complains about.
As far as I am concerned, people always complain when there is change but once
people get use to it, there is no fuss. I like change and
Incorrect, passcode entry works on the iPhone X. I do agree that quick unlock
with Face ID will be annoying as I keep my phone in my pocket and use it for
some tasks.
Kind regards,
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone
> On 1 Nov
Thank you Mark for this article.
I have now committed my money to the I phone x so it will be interesting to see
how it is from a blindness prospective.
Kawal.
> On 31 Oct 2017, at 18:41, M. Taylor wrote:
>
> CNET News - Tuesday, October 31, 2017 at 3:38 AM
> iPhone X review:
We do not believe a camera is useful for blind people. Just believing so
definitely does not make it true or correct. In fact, many people believe many
things which are not true, and no matter how many people believe it, those
things remain untrue.
Consider the camera for instance. Blind
I don't understand the fuss. We are talking about a mainstream
device, right? And we also live in the digital age where virtual crime
runs rampant. If Face ID adds a layer of security, all the better.
I was planning to look at the new iPhone 7s models but since that is
not happening, I
Hi,
Yes, whatever model suits your needs and budget is likely the best. I don't
have any urge to purchase an iPhone X, but I wouldn't turn it down if someone
gave me one. I don't find the Face ID to be a security problem and I seem to
remember a lot of noise about the finger-print sensor
"Copy Samsung" is probably an unfortunate phrase. The fact remains, even for
sighted people, this sounds like a pain. And for us, to make it work, you have
to give up some security, because you turn off that thing where you have to
actually sort of make eye contact with the phone. So for us, I
Hi,
I highly doubt that Apple will copy Samsung. Apple tends to start a path and
keep right on going down that path. All sorts of noise was made about lighting
connectors, about the removal of the headphone etc, and Apple didn't go back
and re-introduce those features that they removed.
That's one thing I really hate about the X you have to take it out to
unlock it and face id is not even as fast as touch ID. Because of an
insurance claim I ended up having to upgrade to the 7plus. So I will
stick with it for a while I think. It's a 128 so enough storage and
all.
On 10/31/17,
Thanks for posting. I wasn't going to buy in iPhone X. And after reading this,
if I'd had thought of it, I would've change my mind. I think Samsung have the
right idea with keeping the fingerprint sensor. There are just too many use
cases where this could be a problem. And I like Apple Pay and
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