Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-25 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Hello all. yes it's indead easy here rather than windows. On 9/23/16, Simon Fogarty wrote: > Hey Scott, > > Not sure about calling ramy old, but yeah good work to all with helping. > > Makes things easier for all when we pitch in and assist. > > Yeah installing macs is

RE: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-23 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hey Scott, Not sure about calling ramy old, but yeah good work to all with helping. Makes things easier for all when we pitch in and assist. Yeah installing macs is great, I was a windows user till a few years ago but now I do more with the mac OS than windows Although I'm still a heavy

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-23 Thread Scott Granados
Hey Ramy, congratulations on getting squared away. DOn’t hesitate to ask questions here it’s a pleasure to help you out and soon you’ll be an old hand and able to help the next person starting out with the Mac. Good news is here that this whole process is accessible to us. Can’t do this sort

RE: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-23 Thread Simon Fogarty
Ramy, Hi, Great to hear you've got it working, And yes I forgot all about that issue. I have to found that vo wont automatically speak the drive table when it comes up. I had to turn vo off and on to get it to see things correctly. It's an easy fix when you know about it.

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-23 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, That's good to hear. I hope this next try is less problematic than your first attempt. Please don't feel bad about asking further questions, we're all here to help each other. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 23, 2016, at 07:47, Ramy Moustafa

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-23 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Hello all my friends: I think this will be the last message in this long thread. Thanks so much, with your help, my mac mini now has the 10.8 mountain lion which it was shipped with. and am downloading sierra now. Thanks again for your help On 9/22/16, Ramy Moustafa

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-22 Thread Ramy Moustafa
I can't believe myself, it'w working? no not working, but at least start installing. I discovered, the issue. , it was that the Voice over made automatic interaction with the table of hard disks. so, I can not find the install button at all. don't know why this happened. but this is what happened.

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-21 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, There's no way that it should be taking that long. In the window that's on your screen, what sorts of things are announced? Dimmed buttons? Progress bars? Anything? Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 21, 2016, at 01:28, Ramy Moustafa

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-21 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Good morning Tim Scott and gsimon and all: tell now from about 12 hours I have only the Mac HD message and using the VO F2 F2 brains just one window install OS window this is the only window so I don't know if it's downloading or not Please I need your help.and my Internet connection is a

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-20 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, I believe that it should, although, I can't remember for sure how the Mountain Lion installer was. Note, that this is going to download and install the Mountain Lion (10.8.*) installer, and you'll need to go to the App Store once again and click on the Upgrade to El Capitan (10.11.*)

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-20 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Hello Tim: I followed all your advices, and I think it starts installing, it didn't ask me for my Wi-Fi password or something. it shows now only my Macintosh HD as a name, I even look with VO+F@ F@, no other windows. Hope it starts downloading., just to be calm. but wouldn't I see a progress

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-20 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, It sounds like your HD is fine, it has just been erased. You should do the following: 1. Restart it again with cmd-option-r. If you have access to a wired connection instead of WiFi, that would be better, but not imperative. 2. When given the choices, choose Disk Utility. 3. Press on

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-20 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Hello all: Sorry for all my hascle, now, the continue button is dimmbed, nothing changed, , no progress etc. I made a restart, with command option r, and this time it worked, and after it opens, I went to disk utility, I found my hd is called untitled, only 1 hd, I quit and I choose install os,

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-20 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Hello all: finally, I found my friend, came to my studio to give me something, I asked him to llok to screen, he found a screen, asking us to select network, of cores the voice over was not speaking in this screen at all. I select the network with Keyboard, I inter my network key, and the

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-20 Thread Ramy Moustafa
A Question comes to my mind: did I erased a wrong hd? I mean, will the disk utility allow me to erase the recovery small partition? I have only 1 TB hd inside my mac mini. I'm just thinking outloud. and hope I can know the answer On 9/20/16, Ramy Moustafa wrote: >

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-20 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Hello Simon: Yes, I erezed my mac hd, but when I was reinstalling the os, I signed in, ut nothing changed for a very long time, so I have to force shut down my mac mini. and I followed Tim's suggestion to start internet recovery,and the same issue. so, what might be happened? what can I do now?

RE: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-20 Thread Simon Fogarty
HI Ramy, Just reading more of this email and I see you say the el capitan installer had downloaded. I'm just wondering if you are able to start the machine up in to a running state at all? If so then the el capitan installer files are under your applications folder Command shift A to get in

RE: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-20 Thread Simon Fogarty
Hi Ramy, Just a quick catch up here, If you have El Capitan on your mac mini and you use Command + R for the recovery console then you will get el capitan installing to your machine as it is a recovery. If however you have an earlier OS such as Mavericks or Yosemite Then that is what your

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-20 Thread Ramy Moustafa
On 9/20/16, Ramy Moustafa wrote: > HThanks so much for your advice, til now nothing. I force shut down, > by long press on the power, and starting again. with Command option r. > hope that I can get something in this time > > > On 9/19/16, Tim Kilburn

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Ramy Moustafa
HThanks so much for your advice, til now nothing. I force shut down, by long press on the power, and starting again. with Command option r. hope that I can get something in this time On 9/19/16, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > No problem. I hope that you don't mind that I'm slow

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, No problem. I hope that you don't mind that I'm slow at responding sometimes. Too many things going on. Anyway, whether it's the cmd-r or the cmd-option-r, you only need to hold it down for about 3 or 4 seconds. As soon as the Startup Chime sounds, press the key combination. Hold it

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Ramy Moustafa
great, but must I press command option r for how many minutes? sorry for all my messages, but really you are my only source On 9/19/16, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > The cmd-r needs to be down as the Startup Chime is sounding. It will > usually take a minute or two before VO is

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, The cmd-r needs to be down as the Startup Chime is sounding. It will usually take a minute or two before VO is available. It's possible though that your system got corrupt in the last attempt. In that case, use cmd-option-r instead. This will start your Mac up from the Internet. It

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Ramy Moustafa
I made a restart, with command+r, nothing at all, I'm trying to press, command r, while opening, but nothing happened, no voice over at all. after the mac chimes, I press command r, then I release them. On 9/19/16, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Yes, restart it please. > > Later... > >

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Tim Kilburn
Yes, restart it please. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 19, 2016, at 14:12, Ramy Moustafa wrote: it says that , no window, hitting command q, command W, doesn't change the matter, should I make a restart, and repeat what was happened? On

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Ramy Moustafa
it says that , no window, hitting command q, command W, doesn't change the matter, should I make a restart, and repeat what was happened? On 9/19/16, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > That's not normal behaviour. Try pressing cmd-q to Quit the installer. See > what it says. You

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, That's not normal behaviour. Try pressing cmd-q to Quit the installer. See what it says. You may need to start over since there was such a long time between the initial installation startup process and the Apple ID entry. Usually shouldn't matter, but you should also be seeing a

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Ok, will tell you what's going on, but til now, nothing changed. no windows. On 9/19/16, Scott Granados wrote: > I think it’s starting to install, wait a few minute and let us know if that > changes. > > And we’re glad to help, this list might get chatty and rough here and

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Scott Granados
I think it’s starting to install, wait a few minute and let us know if that changes. And we’re glad to help, this list might get chatty and rough here and there but we’re all glad to help out, happy you’re making progress. > On Sep 19, 2016, at 3:34 PM, Ramy Moustafa

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Hello: ok, finally, I did it, with your help,and I signed in with my apple id. Thanks allo for helping. now, I have voice over saying that osx has no windows, and even the vo+f2f2 says that no windows in the widnow chooser menu. This happened after I signed in. On 9/19/16, E.T.

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread E.T.
Sorry wrong keyboard. Its actually above the forward delete key above the arrow keys. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/19/2016 12:11 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote: I'm using the full Apple wire keyboard, so, I think it doesn't have the Fn key,

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread E.T.
The Apple wired keyboard has an FN key, lower left. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/19/2016 12:11 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote: I'm using the full Apple wire keyboard, so, I think it doesn't have the Fn key, this is not a lap top anyway. so,

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Yes it does have the FN key. It's located where the Insert key usually is on a Windows keyboard. So, the top left of the group of six keys where the Home, End, Page Up, Page Down and Forward Delete, just above the Forward Delete key. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Ramy Moustafa
I'm using the full Apple wire keyboard, so, I think it doesn't have the Fn key, this is not a lap top anyway. so, does this keyboard contains fn key? On 9/19/16, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > Hold down your FN key at the same time as the VO keys. Sometimes, if your > keyboard

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, Hold down your FN key at the same time as the VO keys. Sometimes, if your keyboard settings are set to have the Function keys behave in a specific manner, the FN key is required along with this key combination. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 19, 2016, at 12:52,

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Ramy Moustafa
The voiceover is working sir Ramy moustafa saber licturer at: faculty of musical education music arranger and sound engineer Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2016, at 9:04 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Try command F5 and see if Voice over restarts, sounds like it might

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Scott Granados
Try command F5 and see if Voice over restarts, sounds like it might have turned off during the process. > On Sep 19, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote: > > Hello, I hit VO+f2f2, and I got only the ding from the Mac system, I > didn't get any response. > so, what

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Hello, I hit VO+f2f2, and I got only the ding from the Mac system, I didn't get any response. so, what is the issue? On 9/19/16, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi, > > It sounds like it's waiting for you to enter something. Press VO-f2-f2 to > bring up the Window Chooser and there's

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Tim Kilburn
Hi, It sounds like it's waiting for you to enter something. Press VO-f2-f2 to bring up the Window Chooser and there's probably a dialog waiting for your password. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Sep 19, 2016, at 11:41, Ramy Moustafa wrote: Hi

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-19 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Hi sir Scotte: 3 hours now, and I got the message: signing to mac appstore, progress bar busy. I erezed my Mac hd, and I hit reinstall mac osx, I hit agree, and this is the message that I got for 3 hours. so what shall I do? I'm connected to the internet. Thanks On 9/19/16, Scott Granados

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-18 Thread Scott Granados
Select disk utility, select the macintosh hd or what ever you named your volume, erase it, exit the utility and run reinstall. Should be good to go. Reinstall I think drops the install over the top of the old one if the disk isn’t cleared first, this may have changed more recently but the

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-18 Thread E.T.
Remy, Perhaps this Apple support article can answer some of your questions. From E.T.'s Keyboard... Are We Alone in the Universe? ancient.ali...@icloud.com On 9/18/2016 3:44 PM, Ramy Moustafa wrote: Thank you Scott. But now I am in the recovery

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-18 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Thank you Scott. But now I am in the recovery mode.so what Chad I chose reinstalling OS or the disk utility? I need to get rid of all my data on my Mac it's D if I choose reinstall when it's remove my data? I need to make clean in the store.thank you Ramy moustafa saber licturer at: faculty of

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-18 Thread Scott Granados
If you boot in recover mode it will either download what it needs or install from the recover partition. Part of your hard disk is partitioned and has the operating system on it for installation. Everything you need should be already inlace or automatic. YOu’ll use your Apple ID, log in and

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-18 Thread Ramy Moustafa
Hello Sir Scott Thanks so much but will it install online or what must I download his assistant before installing or it will download it automatically? Thank you so much. Ramy moustafa saber licturer at: faculty of musical education music arranger and sound engineer Sent from my iPhone > On

Re: Installing a fresh copy of El Capitan on my Mac mini

2016-09-18 Thread Scott Granados
Hi there, this is one of the high points of the Mac, voice over is available during the entire install process. You can activate voice over during install and get spoken directions the whole way. Remember once in a while a new phase may start with out voice but pressing command F5 again will