Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

> certainly not a problem at all. > > Chris. > - Original Message - >> From: Shawn Krasniuk <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:25 PM >

Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

the Mac specifically. We know >>>> the VIPhone list is over run with garbage messages and badly moderated. >>>> As several stated they wanted a place here to discuss the entire Apple >>>> product line and also presented was this list predates any

Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

ot;M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu> Subject: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S? Date: September 15, 2015 at 2:09:33 PM EDT To: <scott.grana...@gmail.com> Reply-To: <mk...@ucla.edu> Hello Scott,

Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

ly not a problem at all. > > Chris. > - Original Message - >> From: Shawn Krasniuk <mailto:bbssh...@icloud.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 9:25 PM >> Subject: Re: To

Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

;> course comply by leaving the list as I have no interest in subscribing to >> yet more lists and I hope his power trip was satisfying. Mark, your users >> don’t want this so why enforce something that doesn’t make sense and doesn’t >> meet the needs of the many users who h

Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

ss the entire Apple product >>> line and also presented was this list predates any others and as such >>> previously was a clearinghouse for all things Apple not just Mac. I will >>> of course comply by leaving the list as I have no interest in subscribing

Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

> line and also presented was this list predates any others and as such >>> previously was a clearinghouse for all things Apple not just Mac. I will >>> of course comply by leaving the list as I have no interest in subscribing >>> to yet more lists and I hope h

Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

t on this, the bottom line is that this >>> list is dedicated to Mac OSX products and services only. >>> >>> So I ask you to please respect this policy and close this thread. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> F

Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

ly. We know >>>> the VIPhone list is over run with garbage messages and badly moderated. >>>> As several stated they wanted a place here to discuss the entire Apple >>>> product line and also presented was this list predates any others and as >>

Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

veral stated they wanted a place here to discuss the entire Apple product >>> line and also presented was this list predates any others and as such >>> previously was a clearinghouse for all things Apple not just Mac. I will >>> of course comply by leaving the list as I have

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

In total agreement with you on that. On Sep 15, 2015, at 2:52 PM, sadam.li...@gmail.com wrote: > Apples products and services are all interconnected. > > To limit the discussion to Mac OS X would be very shortsighted. > > Just my two cents. > > Kind regards, > > Sadam Ahmed > > Sent

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

Glad you agree. :) There are many intelligent people on this list who know great deal about both platforms. It would be nice to get their opinions and viewpoints relating to both operating systems. Kind regards, Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- > On 16 Sep 2015, at 10:35 am,

Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> >> Subject: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S? >> Date: September 15, 2015 at 2:09:33 PM EDT >> To: <scott.gr

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

There's always the peel the apple list. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 15, 2015, at 2:04 PM, Krister Ekstrom > wrote: > > Hi, > Maybe it’s about time to rid us of the Macvisionaries and Viphone lists > alltogether and merge them into one list and call it something

Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

> > From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> > Subject: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S? > Date: September 15, 2015 at 2:09:33 PM EDT > To: <scott.grana...@gmail.com <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com&

Fwd: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

ded message: > > From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu> > Subject: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S? > Date: September 15, 2015 at 2:09:33 PM EDT > To: <scott.grana...@gmail.com> > Reply-To: <mk...@ucla.edu> > > Hello Sco

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

Perhaps the AppleVis list might be more open to discussion of all Apple products. Clearly the mod of this list is determined to rid the list of iOS altogether. David Tanner >From my iPhone 6 > On Sep 15, 2015, at 11:53 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'd just

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

Apples products and services are all interconnected. To limit the discussion to Mac OS X would be very shortsighted. Just my two cents. Kind regards, Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- > On 16 Sep 2015, at 4:39 am, David Tanner wrote: > > Perhaps the

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

ssage- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 07:46 > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S? > > Mark, >Please keep in mind t

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

Hi, Maybe it’s about time to rid us of the Macvisionaries and Viphone lists alltogether and merge them into one list and call it something like ”all things Apple”, since iDevices and Macs and maybe even Apple Tv and definitely AppleWatch are part of one whole thing namely the Apple echo system.

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

Hi all, I'd just like to add my +1 here. these products are so interconnected that to limit the list in that way would make for a much less useful list. Best, Donna > On Sep 15, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > I respectfully disagree. It has been

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

t line, and yes I did not so you all who do not change it see this -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 07:46 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MODERATOR R

RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 07:46 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S? Mark, Please keep in mind that this list was under moderated for a very long time. Now its

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

Although I respect the wishes of the list owners (they are running the list, after all) it’s certainly true that I would prefer to discuss related Apple technology on this list and would prefer not to be on the ViPhone list. Part of the reason, ironically, is the relevance of traffic: there

Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

needs of the many users who have spoken up? Enjoy! > Begin forwarded message: > > From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu> > Subject: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S? > Date: September 15, 2015 at 2:09:33 PM EDT > To: <scott.gran

Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

he needs of the many > users who have spoken up? > > Enjoy! > > > > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu> >> Subject: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S? >> Date: September

Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

> > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: "M. Taylor" <mk...@ucla.edu> >> Subject: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S? >> Date: September 15, 2015 at 2:09:33 PM EDT >> To: <scott.grana...@gma

Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

I hope his power trip was satisfying. Mark, your >>> users don’t want this so why enforce something that doesn’t make sense and >>> doesn’t meet the needs of the many users who have spoken up? >>> >>> Enjoy! >>> >>> >>> >>>

Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

rip was satisfying. Mark, your users >> don’t want this so why enforce something that doesn’t make sense and doesn’t >> meet the needs of the many users who have spoken up? >> >> Enjoy! >> >> >> >> >>> Begin forwarded message: >

Re: To Scott from Mark: Off-List: RE: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

I will >>> of course comply by leaving the list as I have no interest in subscribing >>> to yet more lists and I hope his power trip was satisfying. Mark, your >>> users don’t want this so why enforce something that doesn’t make sense and >>> doesn’t meet t

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

I also think that you need to reconsider this Mark. I own to OS X devices and one iPhone. The iPhone gets the lion share of my use. I don't want to have to change list simply for this arbitrary division of devices. I continually monitor and use this list because it allows for all devices and on

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

Short version - Me too Longer version VoiceOver was introduced April 2005, 10 years ago, as part of OSX 10.4. MacVisionaries, the mailing list, was set up around that same month, best as I can tell. It started as a Mac-only list because it predates the introduction of the iPhone (June 2007),

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

Hi Mark, I respectfully disagree. It has been stated in the past that MacVisionaries is an "Everything Apple" list where we can discuss just that, MacOS, iOS, Apple hardware etc. As the line between the MacOS, the iOS and its related hardware continually fades, I feel that it is very

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

+1 > On Sep 15, 2015, at 9:11 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > I respectfully disagree. It has been stated in the past that MacVisionaries > is an "Everything Apple" list where we can discuss just that, MacOS, iOS, > Apple hardware etc. As the line between the

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

Agreed, I started a different thread for fear of it being filtered. Still the question is how solid the line may be between products anymore? how many do you own, or would you own if you could? Karen On Tue, 15 Sep 2015, Tim Kilburn wrote: Hi Mark, I respectfully disagree. It has been

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

This is bogus. I absolutely ask you to reconsider. Apple devices should be on topic. Non apple devices should be on topic as long as the topic involves interoperation with Apple devices or comparisons of Apple devices to that product. This list should allow the watch as well and support all

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

Mark, Please keep in mind that this list was under moderated for a very long time. Now its being over moderated. There is also no published list guidelines. This can make your rulings arbitrary. Not the best course to take. Its impossible nowadays to separate OS X from iOS. Let's

Re: MODERATOR REQUEST: iPhone 6S?

Hi, One final comment on this. Emphasizing that this is not an iOS list narrows the discussion so much that it would exclude Apple TV questions, Apple Watch questions, as well as the iOS questions. These are all part of the Apple Eco-System and interact in a manner that is meant to be