That goes for the regular mac books too.
On Jun 11, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:
well, the mini has a key on the keyboard for that, and when you hit it,
voiceover will say muting. for the mbp, it's function f10.
On Jun 11, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Brett Campbell wrote:
I have a mini
Where on the thin aluminum keyboard would that key be?
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 05:14:32PM -0400, Brandon Misch wrote:
well, the mini has a key on the keyboard for that, and when you hit it,
voiceover will say muting. for the mbp, it's function f10.
On Jun 11, 2010, at 4:03 PM, Brett Campbell
i know my mistake
On Jun 11, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
That goes for the regular mac books too.
On Jun 11, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:
well, the mini has a key on the keyboard for that, and when you hit it,
voiceover will say muting. for the mbp, it's function
Good correction!!
On Jun 11, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:
i know my mistake
On Jun 11, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
That goes for the regular mac books too.
On Jun 11, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Brandon Misch wrote:
well, the mini has a key on the keyboard for that, and
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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of marie Howarth
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 8:31 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice over feature
Maybe drop Apple accessibility a note. :)
On 9 May 2010, at 01:02, Edward wrote:
Hello all
Maybe drop Apple accessibility a note. :)
On 9 May 2010, at 01:02, Edward wrote:
Hello all,
I think implementing a full fledged hotspot manager that will enable a user
to configure hotspots and assign different types of actions associated for a
particular hotspot would be a very
: Voice over feature
Maybe drop Apple accessibility a note. :)
On 9 May 2010, at 01:02, Edward wrote:
Hello all,
I think implementing a full fledged hotspot manager that will enable
a user to configure hotspots and assign different types of actions
associated for a particular
Hi, If you are using the preview pain in mail use vo j to go between the
message pain and the message itself. You can disable the preview pain s I
do by tapping vo shift space twice. HTH.
Matthew
Contact info.
MSN/ e-mail: ilovecountrymusic...@gmail.com
aim: mattdy1
yahoo:
this can be changed from the voiceover Utility. Vo F8 to open the
utility. select verbosity in the categories table and changthe speak
nubers as to words.
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Damn it. I thought that might be the issue. Well, thanks for your reply.
Best regards
Søren Jensen
Mail MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
Den Mar 16, 2010 kl. 12:22 AM skrev Sarah Alawami:
No I have not. I bought this macbook pro last mnth and have not
Hi.
I have a Macbook and I have never had this issue. However, one of my friends
have an Imac, and he got some more ram in his machine then he bought it. He
chose some cheeper ram which wasn't recommended by Apple. His Voiceover does
reset his settings very often. If he reset his ram, it stops
No I have not. I bought this macbook pro last mnth and have not upgraded
anything.
Take care.
On Mar 15, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
Hi.
I have a Macbook and I have never had this issue. However, one of my friends
have an Imac, and he got some more ram in his machine then he
Hi Sarah,
This sounds like the same problem that Daniel reported last month, and
that Carlene may have seen a bit earlier. Do you have a copy of you
old VoiceOver preference files? We're not sure why this is happening
in these instances, but either as a source or result of the problem
No I did not know you could save those. oops. so what am I going to do now?
I'll try that thinks. and where do I put them?
Thans.
On Mar 14, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Esther wrote:
Hi Sarah,
This sounds like the same problem that Daniel reported last month, and that
Carlene may have seen a bit
I think control n is producing new windows as I opened it up in safary. Oops.
On Mar 14, 2010, at 3:02 PM, Esther wrote:
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Hi Sarah,
First, which browser are you using to read this thread at the linked
Mail Archive site? There are different access key combinations for
FireFox, Internet Explorer and Safari. For IE I think you use Alt-N
to read down the thread. For Safari on a Mac with VoiceOver turned
on,
Hi,
In VO utilities table go to verbosity. Select general and try setting your
verbosity to medium. I think it might be set to high by default.
hth
On Mar 14, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
Ok reading this thread is almost impossible I have to keep clicking on the
right arrow to
oH and to add to this problem. I tried to uncheck all boxrd under window and
it would not work. all of them became checked and my settings won't stick.
On Mar 14, 2010, at 5:31 PM, Esther wrote:
Hi Sarah,
First, which browser are you using to read this thread at the linked Mail
Archive
Thanks Les, I'll try this. I've never used Quick Nav. I have always found it
more of a hindrance hen I've accidentally turned it on..
TC
James, Lyn, Nash Twinny
On 5 Feb 2010, at 22:48, Les Kriegler wrote:
Hi James,
When entering data, I turn QuickNav on and that seems to help.
Les
James,
I'm amazed at how many times in various programs I use QuickNav and it means
the difference between access and no access. It outweighs the times I forget
to turn it off!
Les
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Hi Les,
Then I'll have to give it a real go.
Thanks again,
TC
James Lyn, Nash Twinny
On 6 Feb 2010, at 00:40, Les Kriegler wrote:
James,
I'm amazed at how many times in various programs I use QuickNav and it means
the difference between access and no access. It outweighs the times I
I have noticed similar problems with VO and Snow Leopard. When
control-Option-Lock is enabled, I can't toggle between windows with the F2 key,
use the F1 key to switch between applications, nor determine the spelling of
words by pressing the W key twice in rapid succession. If anyone knows why
Hello,
If you are using snow leopard, may i suggest
quick nav? You activate it by pressing the left and right arrows at the same
time. With this enable you can move and interact just buy using the arrows. I
realize it doesn't answer your question but, it might be of some help.
hth On Dec
Hi,
In Leopard, using any VoiceOver command would cancel system speech. Any events
in Skype will be spoken by your default voice on the Mac. Meaning, these events
have nothing at all to do with VoiceOver. However, in Snow Leopard when trying
to navigate with VoiceOver while an event is being
Thanks Nic,
I'll try this.
On 4 Dec 2009, at 09:14, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
Hi,
In Leopard, using any VoiceOver command would cancel system speech. Any
events in Skype will be spoken by your default voice on the Mac. Meaning,
these events have nothing at all to do with VoiceOver.
Hi James,
The reason for this might be that you have a spoken message triggered by the
system voice coming in at the same time as you are using VO. The trick in this
case will be to press the control extension key on your keyboard, and VO should
be heard again.
HOpe this helps,
John André
Thanks John, I'll try this.
TC
James
On 2 Dec 2009, at 22:46, John André Netland wrote:
Hi James,
The reason for this might be that you have a spoken message triggered by the
system voice coming in at the same time as you are using VO. The trick in
this case will be to press the control
Hello, I have not noticed this in mail but I sometimes do notice this in finder.
Greetings, Anouk
On Nov 17, 2009, at 5:06 PM, James Nash wrote:
Hi folks,
Ever since the update to 10.6.2, VO has occasionally ben acting up in Mail.
Every so often, it will refuse to move up and down the
Hi,
Yes. I have indeed noticed that. If you haven't reported this to Apple, I can
do that.
Regards,
Nic
Skype: Kvalme
MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
AIM: cincinster
yahoo Messenger: cin368
Facebook Profile
My Twitter
On Nov 17, 2009, at 5:06 PM, James Nash wrote:
Hi folks,
Ever
Hi Nic
On 17 Nov 2009, at 17:35, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
Yes. I have indeed noticed that. If you haven't reported this to Apple, I can
do that.
Thank you, and I'll drop them a line too. The more people who send in bugs the
more aware they'll be and perhaps fix it quicker.
TC
James
Hi,
Has anyone had these problems of erratic behaviour with any machine other than
a recent MacBook or MacBook Pro with a multitouch trackpad?
I'm having no problems at all with my two older MacBooks.
Cheers,
Anne
On Nov 17, 2009, at 6:42 PM, James Nash wrote:
Hi Nic
On 17 Nov 2009, at 17:35,
Hi Anne,
Sorry I should have said, that mine is an one of the newer polycarbonate
MacBooks which does not include the multi-touch trackpad.
HTH
TC
James
On 17 Nov 2009, at 18:22, Anne Robertson wrote:
Has anyone had these problems of erratic behaviour with any machine other
than a recent
Hi,
Mine has the trackpad on it. I admittedly don't use it a lot, though.
Regards,
Nic
Skype: Kvalme
MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
AIM: cincinster
yahoo Messenger: cin368
Facebook Profile
My Twitter
On Nov 17, 2009, at 7:40 PM, James Nash wrote:
Hi Anne,
Sorry I should have
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: Voice Over intermittently restarting in Safari
I haven't had it happen in other programs, but in Safari I do get it
quite often.
On 2009-11-09, at 1:46 PM, James Nash wrote:
Hi everyone,
I
it on Linux.
TC
James
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From: Chantel Cuddemi jawsgir...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Voice Over intermittently restarting in Safari
Hi Nick you're correct. Webvism is only a windows
I haven't had it happen in other programs, but in Safari I do get it
quite often.
On 2009-11-09, at 1:46 PM, James Nash wrote:
Hi everyone,
I know I E-Mailed about this previously, but has anyone else noticed
this occurring with any frequency please? Basically, this happens
mostly when
Webvisum plugin and see if VO reacts the same way as it
does on Safari with the restarts.
Thanks again,
TC
James
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From: May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: Voice Over
Everyone may want to update to 10.6.2, which is now available. This
may address some of your issues if not all.
On Nov 9, 2009, at 5:17 PM, May McDonald wrote:
I haven't had it happen in other programs, but in Safari I do get it
quite often.
On 2009-11-09, at 1:46 PM, James Nash wrote:
Hi Scott
Everyone may want to update to 10.6.2, which is now available. This
may address some of your issues if not all.
Well having updated to the latest update, it seems to have fixed this
particular issue so that's cool. I am going to E-Mail Apple tomorrow and tell
them thanks.
TC
For those canadians who use the cnib's visunet services, I notice this
just after login, and it is intermitant.
On 2009-11-09, at 5:17 PM, May McDonald wrote:
I haven't had it happen in other programs, but in Safari I do get it
quite often.
On 2009-11-09, at 1:46 PM, James Nash wrote:
Hi Kaare,
For those canadians who use the cnib's visunet services, I notice this
just after login, and it is intermitant.
I cannot tell you if this has been fixed in the latest update (10.6.2), but it
has at least for the moment stopped misbehaving in Safari. Perhaps updating
will help
reacts the same way
as it
does on Safari with the restarts.
Thanks again,
TC
James
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From: May McDonald mcdonald@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: Voice Over intermittently restarting in Safari
Send a mail message to:
accessibil...@apple.com
Hth,
Portia.
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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther
Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2009 1:42 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voice over bug
Hi Rhonda,
You could send a mail message to accessibil...@mac.com of bugs that
you encounter.
Rhonda Hornbacher wrote:
To what url do I send voice over bug reports to?
Cheers,
Esther
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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner
Sent: Wednesday, 30 September 2009 2:39 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: voice over instruction manuals
Hi Simon
Hi Simon.
The Getting STarted guide for VoiceOver in Snow Leopard is at the
bottom of the vO help menu. Press VO-H, then Up Arrow, and you've got
it. That particular version is in HTML and opens in safari.
HTH,
Anna
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Subject: Re: Voice Over for Snow Leopard
Hi,
I should also mention that a number of people received a copy of the
VoiceOver Getting Started Guide for Snow Leopard in RTF format. There
was also
Michael Busboom wrote:
Does anybody know if the Voice Over manual for Snow Leopard is
available in either HTML or vanilla ASCII? Come to think of it, how
does one listen to the Voice Over manual from within the utility? I
didn’t find it when clicking on the Help option.
I found
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Subject: Re: Voice Over for Snow Leopard
Michael Busboom wrote:
Does anybody know if the Voice Over manual for Snow Leopard is available in
either HTML or vanilla ASCII? Come to think of it, how does one listen to the
Voice Over manual from within the utility? I
Hi Michael,
The Getting STarted guide is also the last option on the Help menu
accessed with VO-H. When you select this option, it opens as an HTML
file in Safari.
Best,
Anna
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Hi,
I should also mention that a number of people received a copy of the
VoiceOver Getting Started Guide for Snow Leopard in RTF format. There
was also a note this guide was posted on a user's MobileMe public site:
http://idisk.mac.com/davidw9-Public?view=web
Hello Mike,
I don't know about an Arabic voice being available, but Arabic Braille
is available for testing if you are interested.
Cheers,
Anne
On Sep 12, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Michael Busboom wrote:
Hello everyone,
The subject sort of says it all. I am wondering if Snow Leopard
comes in
yes an arabic package is available from assistiveware
On 12 Sep 2009, at 15:56, Anne Robertson wrote:
Hello Mike,
I don't know about an Arabic voice being available, but Arabic
Braille is available for testing if you are interested.
Cheers,
Anne
On Sep 12, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Michael
Hi,
There is an infovox ivox arabic language voice pack in theworks. The
developer has recently asked for beta testers, but i guess youwouldn't
beable to do it since, i aussme, you do not own a mac yet. Or do you
Here is the link anyway to the third party voice developer. They give
you a
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voice Over and Arabic?
Hi,
There is an infovox ivox arabic language voice pack in theworks. The
developer has recently asked for beta testers, but i guess youwouldn't
beable to do it since, i aussme, you do not own a mac yet. Or do you
Here is the link
I think another good question here might be, how is the localization
in Arabic. Certainly assistivewear have had an arabic voice for the
last 6 months, but can the system localize in Arabic?
Justin
On Sep 12, 2009, at 8:12 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
Hi,
There is an infovox ivox
me if I'm wrong.
Take care
James
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From: Ryan Mann tiger0...@earthlink.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my
chest
I think that if you don't like
Hi,
Yes, it is indeed true that NVDA is the only Windows based screen
access utility that has no Off Screen Model (OSM) in any traditional
sense of the word. On GNU/Linux, orca functions without an OSM but
mouse cursor (review cursor) mode using a simulated OSM acts kind of
strange
Quite the contrary, the existence of a scripting language takes away
the excuse from mainstream developers as they can now manipulate their
program via scripts and cannot tell the Access Board that they cannot
do Section 508 compliance. At FS, we forced a number of big players
to either
was: Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get
this off my chest
Hi,
Yes, it is indeed true that NVDA is the only Windows based screen
access utility that has no Off Screen Model (OSM) in any traditional
sense of the word. On GNU/Linux, orca functions without an OSM but
mouse cursor (review
in the Desktop user area and
what is
it? Also, where would JFW write the file?
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From: Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 1:07 PM
Subject: OSM Screen Reading was: Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts
Thank you for the clarification Chris
Take care
James
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: OSM Screen Reading was: Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must
get this off
OK, I looked at this a bit. The way to start an application is to use
tell for it...
So the below worked for me.
tell application VoiceOver Utility
activate
end tell
On Sep 8, 2009, at 2:01 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
Hi everyone,
After reading quite a few things and testing
Hi John,
I thought voiceover utility couldn't be openend directly from the tell
command as it wasn't in the suites in the library...lol
Well, that does clear it up, got much more to read :)
Best
Yuma
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Hi,
I don't know if this is strictly a script issue, but as i wrote in a
mail earlier in this thread, i'm afraid that making more and more
wild things with the screen reader is forcing us to use one and only
one developers programs. Of course we should be able to use Apples own
programs,
, September 08, 2009 6:20 AM
Subject: Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest
Thank you, all for your comments. That really puts my mind at ease. I
was not trying to complain, I was just trying to get some concerns out
there. IF people felt like I was complaining, that was not my
: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest
Hi,
I don't know if this is strictly a script issue, but as i wrote in a
mail earlier in this thread, i'm afraid that making more and more
wild things with the screen reader is forcing us
I'm not a programmer, but I'll hazard a guess that maybe the issue now
is that MSAA has become such a heavily used facility for windows-based
screen readers, that now it would take an amazing amount of work to
break away from that. So, it in other words in for a penny in for a
pound.
On
Hi Larry,
In VoiceOver Utility, choose Verbosity. Choose the Text tab. My guess
is that currently, the When Attributes change menu is set to Speak.
Change it to Do nothing, and that should take care of it.
HTH,
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Hello, Anna,
You are exactly correct.
thanks very much for your help.
Larry
On Sep 8, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Woody Anna Dresner wrote:
Hi Larry,
In VoiceOver Utility, choose Verbosity. Choose the Text tab. My guess
is that currently, the When Attributes change menu is set to Speak.
Change
Hi Jes,
I've not installed Snow Leopard yet, but I do understand your concerns. I
would just like to say though, that you can use shortcut keys in Windows to
launch applications. I'm sure you know this smile.
I do understand your concerns about the ability to script taking the onis
away from
All well writen Mac applications should support AppleScript.
Sent from my iPhone
Greg Kearney
Association for the Blind of Western Australia
On 07/09/2009, at 8:52 PM, Jes Smith theeternal...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all.
I am greatly concerned that voice over now has support for scripting.
Yes indeed Greg. I only hope that Apple continue to develop VO and that they
don't stop here.
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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get
Hi,
Probably because I was once a VP at Freedom Scientific, I see the
value in and strongly support adding scripting to VO.
I agree that using scripts to launch applications from within a screen
reader should be discouraged and I agree that some other things you
mention in your email
Thank you for this information and clarification
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From: Chris Hofstader c...@hofstader.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest
Hi,
Probably because I
Hi, I agree with both points of view to some extent. If the api
remains as tight as it has been for voiceover, less need for scripting
will be required. I doubt seriously that we can eliminate the need for
it altogether as the very nature of screenreading technology is
prosthetic rather
Another thing to consider, besides voiceover turning into bloatware as
Jfw already has done is that if you script or develop special features
too hard, you risk getting stuck with software from one developer and
one alone. I don't know how conserned you should be on the Macintosh
I am not sure what people are thinking about for AppleScript since I
have not read how it will integrate with VO yet. but since OS9 one
could use apple script to read out loud the subject line of all unread
e-mail messages. Sure you could not use Alex, but fred and bells have
been around
I am in full agreement that voice over needs not to be full of scripts
to do everything for us. Maybe we could write to accessibil...@apple.com
and share our thoughts on this.
On Sep 7, 2009, at 7:52 AM, Jes Smith wrote:
Hi all.
I am greatly concerned that voice over now has support
That sounds like a good idea.
On Sep 7, 2009, at 12:58 PM, dannyboy wrote:
I am in full agreement that voice over needs not to be full of scripts
to do everything for us. Maybe we could write to accessibil...@apple.com
and share our thoughts on this.
On Sep 7, 2009, at 7:52 AM, Jes
I think that if you don't like using scripts with screen readers, then
don't use them. It's silly to ask Apple to take out a feature of
VoiceOver that some people might want. If the mac gets more popular,
some blind people might have to use an application for a job. If that
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest
I think that if you don't like using scripts with screen readers, then
don't use them. It's silly to ask Apple to take out a feature of
VoiceOver
The major reason between JAWS and its scripting facility is that it
*must* have scripts to function. Just making VO scriptable doesn't
make it any more reliant on scripts than it is today but with
something like AppleScript, one can add some finesse to how VO
interacts with certain
Two thunbs up!!!
On Sep 7, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
I think that if you don't like using scripts with screen readers, then
don't use them. It's silly to ask Apple to take out a feature of
VoiceOver that some people might want. If the mac gets more popular,
some blind people
I think it sounds like a bad idea.
I don't think that this something to bother Apple accessibility over.
I think it's worth pointing out that many apps on the Mac are
scriptable and I think it is a mistake to read to much into why it was
added to vo. This only adds to the power of
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From: Ryan Mann tiger0...@earthlink.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest
I think that if you don't like using scripts with screen readers, then
don't
: Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest
I think it sounds like a bad idea.
I don't think that this something to bother Apple accessibility over.
I think it's worth pointing out that many apps on the Mac are
scriptable and I think it is a mistake to read to much into why
I'm possibly being nit picky, but I wanted to correct a particular
choice of words I used.
I said that some people wore raising valid concerns in regards to vo
becoming like Jaws. I will change that to possible concerns. At the
moment they are only possible in that anything is possible.
Scripts are usually an extension to a given program, those of whom
want to customize their own experience further. It's part of the tools
that people use to make their lives easier, and more efficient when
encountering redundancy or other such issues. I think that Apple is
well aware of
Hey Chris, it's interesting that you mention the whole off screen
model, actually I'm amazed that voice over does as well as it does
without one, I wonder if windows screen readers will ever be able to
move away from this approach, I think the only screen reader that does
not have one is
Well built Macintosh applications should support scripting.
AppleScript is a core service of the OS and I and other VoiceOVer
users and developer were asking for AppleScript support from the very
start of VoiceOver and well before the NFB ever heard of VoiceOver.
All Mac application should
wrong.
Take care
James
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From: Ryan Mann tiger0...@earthlink.net
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: Voice Over with Apple Scripts, must get this off my chest
I think that if you don't like using
Maybe it is good I have not yet written apple.
On Sep 7, 2009, at 1:39 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
I think it sounds like a bad idea.
I don't think that this something to bother Apple accessibility over.
I think it's worth pointing out that many apps on the Mac are
scriptable and I think it is
Hello. Thank you for the explanation about apple script.
On Sep 7, 2009, at 6:31 PM, Greg Kearney wrote:
Well built Macintosh applications should support scripting.
AppleScript is a core service of the OS and I and other VoiceOVer
users and developer were asking for AppleScript support from
I'd need to agree with this.
It's ridiculous to encourage the abandonment of a feature simply
because you yourself might not like it or want to use it.
As long as it's not interfering with your use of the product,
complaining about it is really moot at best, and detrimental at
Thank you, all for your comments. That really puts my mind at ease. I
was not trying to complain, I was just trying to get some concerns out
there. IF people felt like I was complaining, that was not my
intention. So sorry if it came out like that.
Jes
On Sep 7, 2009, at 11:24 PM, Cara
Hi James,
VoiceOver lets you check color with the text attribute command (VO-T),
and the navigation options (VO-Shift-F to bring up the menus) let you
find text by color changes or the next text or text block with the
same attributes. (I haven't used this feature that much). Cara has
Hi Esther,
Unfortunately, the post you pointed to no longer seems to exist. But, it's
good to know that it can be done.
Take care
James
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From: Esther mori...@mac.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: Voice
Hello. Did you try control+option+h?
On Aug 28, 2009, at 8:49 PM, Alfonzo Cuellar wrote:
Hey there everyone.
I am really liking VoiceOver in its new iteration
One thing I have noticed though, I am unable to go to the VoiceOver
Menu. I am not even able to bring up the VoiceOver quick
For the VoiceOver Quickstart, try VO-command-F8. For the command help, Try
VO-H-H.
HTH,
Blake
Subject: Voice Over Menu
From: sunrisings...@aim.com
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:49:46 -0500
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Hey there everyone.
I am really liking VoiceOver in its
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