of the time, but
not when it's in a professional type environment. Then, I try to refrane.
Chris.
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I think sometimes we get hung up on the word interaction.
I have entered this thread late but actually with screen readers on \Windows
systems we often have to interact. It is not called interaction so we do not
recognise it as such.
For example in a Windows save as dialogue you have to tab to
Hey. good point. I never thought of it that way, but i think you're right. I
also think it gets easier with practise.
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Hi Chris, Erik here from ebony consulting in toronto. I feel your pain.
To comment on a couple of things that have been said, I actually find that if
you turn automatic
Ok, So, when is the right time to interact and what are the keystrokes to
interact and get out of interacting?
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There is no WRONG time to interact, unless what you're trying to do is outside
the scope of the portion of the window you're interacting with at the moment.
To interact, press VO Shift Down-arrow, and to stop interacting, press VO Shift
Up-arrow. Just that simple. If interacting yields you
Hi and if they get the hang of quicknav!
You can also interact with down/right arrows pressed together and left/down
arrows to stop interacting also pressed down together!
And just for info up/down arrows together is the same as vo+spacebar!
hth Colin
On 6 Jun 2012, at 21:19, Mark BurningHawk
One other big deal with interacting is generally at the lowest level,
you will be interacting with a text element at which you can spell the
word or words even letter by letter and that is often impossible at
upper levels of navigation.
On 6/6/12, Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com
This is one way in which VO is a little bit awkward; that sometimes you have
have to interact two levels down just to get to the ability to spell or
phonetically sound out a word. I wish there was a spell current word,
feature; I guess I could maybe set one up in one of the commanders...
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On 6/6/12, Mark BurningHawk Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote:
This is one way in which VO is a little bit awkward; that sometimes you have
have to interact two levels down just to get to the ability to spell or
phonetically sound out a word. I wish there was a spell current word,
feature;
Hi there!
Well vo+W reads the word vo+WW spells the word vo+www spells the word with
those words like tango bravo and so on!
hth Colin
On 6 Jun 2012, at 21:58, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
This is one way in which VO is a little bit awkward; that sometimes you have
have to interact two
Yes, VO W does just as you describe; I'd never have thought to try it, as it's
not a keystroke I can easily do with one hand.
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Hi,
I've keyboard commander shortcuts for these individual commands. I find
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Hi Chris, Erik here from ebony consulting in toronto. I feel your pain.
To comment on a couple
to refrane.
Chris.
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Hi Chris, Erik here from ebony
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Chris.
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Hi Chris
You may have already
let's just hope the pattern continues.
Chris.
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Cheree Heppe here:
Sometimes, theory is less effective than task based, hands on examples.
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On 03/06/2012, at 20:47, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
okay… I really could use you awls help.
I myself am also a Mac voiceover trainer. I have
Hi Chris
I agree with Veronica here. I'm a new Mac user and don't really get interacting
either. But I'm learning by trial and error, and not stressing if I don't
understand the concept. Your ring binder analogy and the zoom camera one
actually really helped me, so thanks for those. I do know
Hi there
You know, sometimes the only way you can explain the concept is to say don't
worry about it, just do it. Now I say that because I've had a few concepts I
didn't get and I just said okay I'll just do it. But the reason I did not have
trouble with the interacting concept is that I
Hi Chris, Erik here from ebony consulting in toronto. I feel your pain.
To comment on a couple of things that have been said, I actually find that if
you turn automatic interaction via tab key then things work more like windows,
in direct contrast to what others have said.
I also liked what
Actually, this was a hard thing for me to learn also. So I just said to
myself, When in doubt, interact. Teach her what the key strokes are to get
in and out and tell her to play. It is so simple when it finally clicks.
On Jun 4, 2012, at 12:10 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote:
The way I
This is all true. Sometimes, no matter what you do, explaining the theory
and coming up with a bunch of analogies simply does not get the proverbial
light switch to come on. It has nothing to do with the trainer or the
student's capabilities. There are just concepts that are difficult
of the time, but not
when it's in a professional type environment. Then, I try to refrane.
Chris.
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Subject: Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble
okay… I really could use you awls help.
I myself am also a Mac voiceover trainer. I have a student who is starting from
ground one. to the best of my knowledge, I do not believe that she even knew
what voiceover was left alone how to use it until I told her of its existence.
she is doing
HI. i find interacting for me was learned through trial and error.
but then i am a very hands on person. after all your student can't hurt
anything by interacting with stuff and seeing what happens.
just a thought.
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The way I explain VoiceOver's interacting with an object or region is to think
of what a sighted person does with their eyes when they want to focus in on a
small region of the screen. They squint their eyes a bit and narrow their gaze
and focus in on a region of the screen that might have
Hi there!
Well, I am not a trainer, but I thought I'd
describe my difficulties understanding the
interactive concept and see if it helps at all. I
do understand your bookshelf analogy except for
one thing. If I'm in the finder and come upon a
folder name, I just issue an open command to go
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