I have had a similar issue; I'm not sure exactly when it started.
Occasionally after my macbook wakes up voiceover will not respond and
command f5 will not work either. I think I have even had someone go
into system preferences and start it from there but with no success.
In a couple of
Ricky et al;
It's for any Mac Developer at all. However, as it's a companion to
this list, it should be relevant to development on the Mac from a
visually impaired standpoint or that of a developer coding an app with
some relationship to the visually impaired community or VoiceOver.
Okay, enough fun / jokes, or you're both banned! lol! -Just
kidding of course!
Fonzy, thankie for the apology. No worries you two! lol!
L8rs,
Cara :)
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On Mar 12, 2009, at 7:48 PM, louie wrote:
To error is hum
Hey Jacob, how are you doing?
A friend of mine is having an issue with airport. Her aiport utility
is not working properly.. Her network seems to be not acting
correctly. Her airport is not sensing any networks, and it will take
a little while to search for networks itself.
When airport
To error is human to forgive is against list policy.
On Mar 12, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Fonzie wrote:
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> Sorry about that guys.
>
> I accidently hit reply on the wrong email, and meant to delete the
> message and make a new one.
>
> That was addressed to a single person, but if anyone has any help,
>
Sorry about that guys.
I accidently hit reply on the wrong email, and meant to delete the
message and make a new one.
That was addressed to a single person, but if anyone has any help,
please let me know.
Sorry again, the subject does not reflect what I spoke about, and I
appologize for c
Thanks for the new MV-Developers list, Cara! Just to clarify, is this
a list for blind people who are developing software or for all
developers who are trying to develop software accessible via VoiceOver?
Cheers,
Ricky
On 13/03/2009, at 12:20 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
> Hey All, as some of you m
Hey All, as some of you may know, there has been a developers list
associated with MacVisionaries in the past. To my knowledge, it
hasn't made it over to GoogleGroups though, and last I checked, had
gone defunct.
I've recreated such a group for developers as a companion group t
Hello,
This is what I do.
For this example, I've selected the iTunes store.
I go to the search field and type in a search item.
Then I press inter.
Then I VO to the Search Results button and press inter.
Then I VO to the Songs table.
From this point, I use the up or down arrows to select what I w
Hi
Hasn't happened here at all. While I've had a couple of minor VO
crashes, VO automatically restarted itself without problems. I have
all updates installed.
On Mar 12, 2009, at 20:26, Tiffany D wrote:
>
> Wow! Has anyone else experienced this? I've noticed for the last few
> updates that
Wow! Has anyone else experienced this? I've noticed for the last few
updates that sometimes, VoiceOver just shuts off but I've been able to
get it back on with command f5. But I've also noticet that these
occurrences have pretty much stopped lately. So if this is a more
serious case I don't wa
I've been doing software updates on Leopard regularly and apparently this
last one has an undesireable leopard feature included. VoiceOver starts
up fine on boot up but leave it alone for a few minutes then VoiceOver
goes away. Only way I've been able to wake voiceover up again was with a
sh
Hmmm, ok. Interesting. will report this to apple and see what they
say.
On Mar 12, 2009, at 7:50 AM, Jacob Schmude wrote:
Hi Dan
The interesting thing as that you do not actually remain in the search
field. iTunes itself behaves as expected, but for some reason VO gets
completely desynchron
CSV files are in fact just text files with the values separated by
commas or another indicator like this:
column 1, column 2, column 3
This means that you could just read and save them in TextEdit.
The following spreadsheets are accessible with VoiceOver:
Tables (commercial)
Numbers, part
Hi,
I think your two choices are either Tables or Numbers. Numbers is
part of the iWOrk 9 suite and you can download a free demo or trial.
Tables is shareware and has a free trial period too. The two links
are:
http://www.x-tables.eu/more/overview.html
and
http://www.apple.com/iwork/
Bot
Try tables.
"Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
tomorrow in Australia." Charles Schultz, creator of the Peanuts comic
strip.
El 12/03/2009, a las 15:10, Tiffany D escribió:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> I'm looking for a program that can handle csv files. I've never used
>
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> Date: March 12, 2009 12:12:03 PM PDT
> Subject: Adobe, Foxit, Ship PDF Reader Security Updates
> Source: Wash Post Technology
> Author: Brian Krebs
>
> Adobe Systems today released an update to plug a dangerous security
> hole that hackers first began exploiting in J
Hi guys,
I'm looking for a program that can handle csv files. I've never used
a spreadsheet in my life so have no clue what it's like. So please,
the simpler the better. I basically just need to go through the
records and enter information. I think Apple makes software for this
but don't know
all -
incase you were wondering and as the question was raised, I
uninstalled safari 4 beta and ITunes 8.1 is still behaving the same
way. this is not a biggy for me but I thought I'd post my findings to
save others the bother. I'm gonna put safari 4 beta back now.
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well, you could read the info on the site and it would tell you the
same thing.
On Mar 12, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
You guys were wonderring what ITunes DJ was? I just called Apple and
asked.
Basically, if you have an IPhone with the remote client access software
installed, y
You guys were wonderring what ITunes DJ was? I just called Apple and asked.
Basically, if you have an IPhone with the remote client access software
installed, you can actually connect back home to your computer using your
cell provider's data plan, and browse your library at home, and escentia
I wrote to the accessibility address and they thanked me for the report and
were going to pass the info on to the engineers.
- Original Message -
From: "Jacob Schmude"
To:
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: The new iTunes, accessibility issues?
>
> Hi
> Well I'm g
Cool
On Mar 12, 2009, at 11:23 AM, David Poehlman wrote:
>
> apple says yes.
>
> On Mar 12, 2009, at 2:13 PM, louie wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
> Do you think that there will be a adaptor for those of us who can't
> stand earbuds?
>
> louie
> louiem...@wavecable.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >
louie
louiem...@
because there is information in the title of the link that voiceover
is reporting. safari 4 is exposing this title rather than the link
text.
On Mar 12, 2009, at 2:32 PM, william lomas wrote:
hi when in safari four sometimes i hear link opens in new window? why
isn't voice over tel
hi when in safari four sometimes i hear link opens in new window? why
isn't voice over telling me these links?
will
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apple says yes.
On Mar 12, 2009, at 2:13 PM, louie wrote:
Hi all,
Do you think that there will be a adaptor for those of us who can't
stand earbuds?
louie
louiem...@wavecable.com
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Hi all,
Do you think that there will be a adaptor for those of us who can't
stand earbuds?
louie
louiem...@wavecable.com
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Hi Will,
Maybe you have checked the checkbox in VO Utilities that turns on the
option to read text under the mouse? Just a suggestion.
Take care,
John André
On 12. mars. 2009, at 18.11, william lomas wrote:
>
> hi when I am in itunes 8.1 voice over keeps saying sources
hi when I am in itunes 8.1 voice over keeps saying sources
table
sources table sources table, without me doing anything?
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we can now track the elappsed and remaining time in an item currently
playing, we have some more descriptions on some of the buttons, I
don't remember the other little goodies at the moment.
On Mar 12, 2009, at 12:09 PM, william lomas wrote:
what is new in 8.1 in terms of access?
an thanks
Right. It was a 2.4GHz but the ones I replaced it with were also 2.4,
just with the spread spectrum stuff. 802.11n wireless networking will be
running in the 5GHz range so the newer phones only buy you a little
time. I gave my old phone to my inlaws to put in their garage which is
detached and
Hello all,
Just my thoughts regarding the new iTunes.
At first, I was really frustrated about the tab key. However, I like
relying on the VO navigation. It sure works smoothly. I also like the
LCD scroll area. You can see how much time has elapsed and how much
time is left on the current son
this is a bug that's been with us for a while.
On Mar 12, 2009, at 11:53 AM, william lomas wrote:
how can i check the download window of itues then?
On 12 Mar 2009, at 15:41, David Poehlman wrote:
>
> You do provie a way out of bug status here:
>> True it might've been given the chop for a re
what is new in 8.1 in terms of access?
an thanks
will
On 12 Mar 2009, at 15:54, David Poehlman wrote:
>
> yes, we are but they are important hairs. There is a fine but
> neverthe less distinction between what is and what is not a bug and
> how each should be treated. In order to determine if s
Ah, now I'm with ya! I disagree about some of that, but at the end of
the day that's just my humble opinion. You've got a lot more
experience of this stuff than me and your way of looking at it is more
than likely to be a lot closer to the way Apple will be looking at it.
On 3/12/09, David Poeh
hi how can i get voice over to tell me the status of fie transfers?
will
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yes, we are but they are important hairs. There is a fine but
neverthe less distinction between what is and what is not a bug and
how each should be treated. In order to determine if something is a
bug, it must be first determined whether it hinders the application
its self or is somethi
how can i check the download window of itues then?
On 12 Mar 2009, at 15:41, David Poehlman wrote:
>
> You do provie a way out of bug status here:
>> True it might've been given the chop for a reason, but at least
>> reporting it to apple would get an explanation if that's the case, IE
>> no har
lol, come on man, we're splitting hairs somewhat here aren't we. All
I was actually meaning to say with that sentence was that perhaps
you've got a point in saying it might be that Apple already realises
that this is how iTunes and VO interact for now, I can't know for sure
either way until they
You do provie a way out of bug status here:
> True it might've been given the chop for a reason, but at least
> reporting it to apple would get an explanation if that's the case, IE
> no harm done.
On Mar 12, 2009, at 11:30 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
Hmm, I've read what's below and can't see an
Hi
Believe me, I checked that, even though I hadn't changed it. This is
an issue in iTunes 8.1, and only in iTunes 8.1. It's not a cursor
tracking setting that got turned off, but Voiceover not being notified
for some reason about most keyboard focus changes, almost as though
iTunes 8.1 is
How about your cursor tracking? It should be on, VO shift F3 will
tell you its status. Else, look in the VO f8 settings and see that VO
cursor follows keyboard focus is checked.
Mark BurningHawk
Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969
MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com
My home page:
http://Mar
Hi
Well, obviously I believe this to be a bug. In my view, any time VO
does not report something it should qualifies as a bug, and not
keeping track of the keyboard focus qualifies.
I've written to Apple, will keep you all posted.
On Mar 12, 2009, at 11:30, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>
> Hmm,
Hmm, I've read what's below and can't see anywhere that I say it's not
a bug. I'm on the side of the fence that thinks it is, so perhaps we
got our wires crossed.
On 3/12/09, David Poehlman wrote:
>
> no, all I said was it is not a bug which you seem to agree with below.
>
> On Mar 12, 2009, at
no, all I said was it is not a bug which you seem to agree with below.
On Mar 12, 2009, at 10:27 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
True it might've been given the chop for a reason, but at least
reporting it to apple would get an explanation if that's the case, IE
no harm done.
Agreed efficiency often
True it might've been given the chop for a reason, but at least
reporting it to apple would get an explanation if that's the case, IE
no harm done.
Agreed efficiency often takes longer to materialise than basic access,
but the point in this case I think is that this is efficiency that's
regressed.
Scott,
It might have been sacrificed for better accessibility in other areas.
On Mar 12, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
How not out of interest?
Not meaning to be argumentative, I just don't really see a way that
this could be by design and be useful to anyone.
On 3/12/09, David Po
Does tab work at all here? it is my sense that it does not. we have
lots o instances where it is necessary for one reason to use vo keys,
we have vo keys for a reason. I'd call it a bug if accessibility was
not possible. Efficiency is something that improves with time.
On Mar 12, 2009,
How not out of interest?
Not meaning to be argumentative, I just don't really see a way that
this could be by design and be useful to anyone.
On 3/12/09, David Poehlman wrote:
>
> bug well, maybe not.
>
> On Mar 12, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>
>
> True you can indeed use VO keys t
Yes it is a bug. Or would you prefer that VO not work with keyboard
focus navigation at all? Bottom line, if VO doesn't report something
correctly, it is most certainly a bug. There's a workaround to this
one in using the VO keys, but it's not nearly as fast as being able to
press shift-ta
Hi,
You asked what Kiwi Keys is? It is a typing tutor currently under
developement by VIPBC.org that can be compared most notably with
Talking Typer for Windows, but when finished it will have more
functionality.
Thanks,
Alex,
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bug well, maybe not.
On Mar 12, 2009, at 8:32 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
True you can indeed use VO keys to do your work until this is fixed,
but at the end of the day a bug is a bug is it not, it's still worth
reporting. One of the things I like about OS X is that there's always
more than one
Hello all.
I see that I was using the wrong version of iTunes, when I had
reported about the issue being sparse. I have updated to the new
iTunes, and I can indeed confirm that tabbing through controls doesn't
work properly. VO navigational keys work fine though, so it is an
alternative
Well said, kind of like some get bugs and some don't such as a while
back with Safari 4 and mail. Some of us had problems with it and
others didn't. Guess it is happening for some with I-Tunes now, but
for others of us not, and it sounds like there are varying degrees of
the problem. U
True you can indeed use VO keys to do your work until this is fixed,
but at the end of the day a bug is a bug is it not, it's still worth
reporting. One of the things I like about OS X is that there's always
more than one way to skin a cat, and this is one way that eventually
needs to work.
Whil
so they missed again, folks, relax, you can use the vo keys to do your
work.
On Mar 12, 2009, at 3:18 AM, william lomas wrote:
well lol i keep hearing new accessibility issues are improved but what
about that damn downloads window? especially if buyin or renting a
movie, i can't see the progr
the web page explains it all.
On Mar 12, 2009, at 4:53 AM, Søren Jensen wrote:
Hi.
Does that means that the new Ipods have a built in Voiceover? Or do we
still need to make the voices using Itunes?
Best regards
Søren Jensen
Mail & MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblin
Hi Dan
The interesting thing as that you do not actually remain in the search
field. iTunes itself behaves as expected, but for some reason VO gets
completely desynchronized with the keyboard focus--it does not realize
the keyboard focus has left the search field even though it has.
On Mar
I'm having this issue as well, when I tab, I'm getting the search
field, and nothing else. I've tried selecting different sources, and
other things such as having the browser on as well, and if I hit tab
multiple times, I still remain in the search field.
On Mar 12, 2009, at 7:18 AM, Jacob
Hi
Well I'm going to write to Apple about it as it seems I'm not the only
one having the problem, although it seems its most severe on my system
so far. For me the only control announced properly when I tab is the
search field, nothing else. It doesn't matter what source, or view, or
wheth
Confirmed. When i tab through controls, the only control that is not
announced is the one after the search field. All other controls are
announced even if the browser sometimes is announced a bit oddly.
Thanks.
/Krister
12 mar 2009 kl. 05.17 skrev Fonzie:
>
> Hey there Jacob, I hope all is g
Yes, but you have to install it at time of setup
It doesn't come pre setup. Unless they've changed it.
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Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2009 9:54 p.m.
To: macvisionaries@
Hi.
Does that means that the new Ipods have a built in Voiceover? Or do we
still need to make the voices using Itunes?
Best regards
Søren Jensen
Mail & MSN:
s...@coolfortheblind.dk
Website:
http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
On 11/03/2009, at 15.12, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>
> Looks like Apple did t
Yes if you use a live boot disk to install from, otherwise, no from the
questions I've asked.
At least from the ubuntu side anyway.
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeffrey greene
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2009
Are you logging in as the SU or just a user?
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Thursday, 12 March 2009 2:57 a.m.
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: A little off topic...
Hi all:
I'm trying to remotely ad
was the phone a 2.4 ghz device also?
I got rid of mine and went to the 5.8ghz range of cordless phones and
that's a truckload better
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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
Sent: Wednesday, 11 March 20
Being a kiwi, I'm interested to know what kiwi keys are?
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Jurgensen
Sent: Tuesday, 10 March 2009 11:30 a.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Understanding
well lol i keep hearing new accessibility issues are improved but what
about that damn downloads window? especially if buyin or renting a
movie, i can't see the progress?
On 12 Mar 2009, at 05:24, Scott Rutkowski wrote:
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> HI David.
>
> OK basically i've tried with different views such as g
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