OpenFire 4.3.1 and Jabber / IChat

[Cara Quinn]

   Hey All, -Not the way I want to top off a lovely Friday eve, but I  
hadn't been able to start OpenFire to log into my local Jabber server  
with IChat.  So I reinstalled OF 4.3.1 (an old ver, I know) and  
reconfiged it.

   All was fine until I came to the screen to add server plugins.  the  
IM Gateway plugin doesn't seem to show up when I browse all available  
plugins.  ick!

   So I downloaded it manually, and copied it into my usr/local/ 
OpenFire/plugins folder but still no luck.

   So I then tried uploading it through the server console itself.  I  
located the file and uploaded just fine, but still no luck.  The  
plugin doesn't show as being installed.  really ickie! bleh!…

   So I verified that the server had actually done something with the  
jar file in the plugins folder and it had.  So I then restarted the  
server.  Still, bloody no luck!  -Still showed as having no installed  
plugins!  aaarrrggg!

   What in the  am I doing wrong?…  I've since uninstalled ver  
4.3.1 and looked for the latest ver.  However, on the igniterealtime  
site, I can't seem to locate the proper download.  The links to choose  
one's OS aren't speaking for me.  I'm using the latest beta (Safari 4)  
and all three links are identical.  yuck!

   What are peeps doing for Jabber functionality in IChat at the  
moment?…

   This is being a royal PIMa!…

   Anyway, on the up side of things, if anyone would like it, or would  
like to host it, I've created a really simple uninstall shell script  
for OpenFire 4.3.1 -which I'm happy to share.  Just write me off-list  
and I'm happy to send it along!…

   Thanks so much.  Any help would sure be greatly appreciated!…

Smiles,

Cara  :)
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Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[Chris Gilland]

Maybe I am just way behind on technology.  What is! a net book exactly!

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Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 5:50 AM
Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook



 You know this as others has pointed out makes little sense. As a
 matter of fact, there is a possibility Apple will come out with a
 netbook in the next year or so. If they do, it will be by far better
 than any netbook out there. I heard a podcast where this fellow was
 running Linux as a VM on his XP Home netbook and it was painful to
 listen too. It was slow and he says he will be putting Leopard on it
 soon and I wouldn't have said that for all the world to hear. :) I
 wouldn't waste my time either, I don't think he'll find it very much
 fun.


  


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Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[william lomas]

it is a cut down laptop. I have one for windows usages
for when I need it.

On 4 Apr 2009, at 11:02, Chris Gilland wrote:


 Maybe I am just way behind on technology.  What is! a net book  
 exactly!

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 You know this as others has pointed out makes little sense. As a
 matter of fact, there is a possibility Apple will come out with a
 netbook in the next year or so. If they do, it will be by far better
 than any netbook out there. I heard a podcast where this fellow was
 running Linux as a VM on his XP Home netbook and it was painful to
 listen too. It was slow and he says he will be putting Leopard on it
 soon and I wouldn't have said that for all the world to hear. :) I
 wouldn't waste my time either, I don't think he'll find it very much
 fun.





 


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Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[Chris Gilland]

when you say though cfut down, this is getting on topic so I don't wanna 
really have this thread go over board but at least! explain to me when you 
say cut down, can you be more specific?  I mean like, is it smaller 
dementional in measurement? do you mean the specks are ran down, etc.  I'm 
just kind a confused.

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Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook



it is a cut down laptop. I have one for windows usages
for when I need it.

On 4 Apr 2009, at 11:02, Chris Gilland wrote:


 Maybe I am just way behind on technology.  What is! a net book
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 You know this as others has pointed out makes little sense. As a
 matter of fact, there is a possibility Apple will come out with a
 netbook in the next year or so. If they do, it will be by far better
 than any netbook out there. I heard a podcast where this fellow was
 running Linux as a VM on his XP Home netbook and it was painful to
 listen too. It was slow and he says he will be putting Leopard on it
 soon and I wouldn't have said that for all the world to hear. :) I
 wouldn't waste my time either, I don't think he'll find it very much
 fun.





 




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Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[Chris Gilland]

Wuh?  there are some netbooks that're 5,100? dollars?  Yoysh!  Eesh!  No? 
thank you!

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Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook



Good morning Chris,

A netbook (a portmanteau of the words Internet and notebook) is a
class of laptop computer designed for wireless communication and
access to the Internet.

Primarily designed for web browsing and e-mailing, netbooks rely
heavily on the Internet for remote access to web-based applications
and are targeted increasingly at cloud computing users who require a
less powerful client computer. Netbooks typically run either Linux or
Windows XP operating systems rather than more resource-intensive
operating systems like Windows Vista. The devices range in size from
below 5 inches to over 13, typically weigh 2 to 3 pounds (~1 kg) and
are often significantly cheaper than general purpose laptops ($400),
with some even in the $50-100 range under some circumstances.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netbook

HTH,
EverettOn 4-Apr-09, at 7:02 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:


 Maybe I am just way behind on technology.  What is! a net book
 exactly!

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 Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 5:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook



 You know this as others has pointed out makes little sense. As a
 matter of fact, there is a possibility Apple will come out with a
 netbook in the next year or so. If they do, it will be by far better
 than any netbook out there. I heard a podcast where this fellow was
 running Linux as a VM on his XP Home netbook and it was painful to
 listen too. It was slow and he says he will be putting Leopard on it
 soon and I wouldn't have said that for all the world to hear. :) I
 wouldn't waste my time either, I don't think he'll find it very much
 fun.









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Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[william lomas]

lol think he meant 500

On 4 Apr 2009, at 11:14, Chris Gilland wrote:


 Wuh?  there are some netbooks that're 5,100? dollars?  Yoysh!   
 Eesh!  No?
 thank you!

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 Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook



 Good morning Chris,

 A netbook (a portmanteau of the words Internet and notebook) is a
 class of laptop computer designed for wireless communication and
 access to the Internet.

 Primarily designed for web browsing and e-mailing, netbooks rely
 heavily on the Internet for remote access to web-based applications
 and are targeted increasingly at cloud computing users who require a
 less powerful client computer. Netbooks typically run either Linux or
 Windows XP operating systems rather than more resource-intensive
 operating systems like Windows Vista. The devices range in size from
 below 5 inches to over 13, typically weigh 2 to 3 pounds (~1 kg) and
 are often significantly cheaper than general purpose laptops ($400),
 with some even in the $50-100 range under some circumstances.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netbook

 HTH,
 EverettOn 4-Apr-09, at 7:02 AM, Chris Gilland wrote:


 Maybe I am just way behind on technology.  What is! a net book
 exactly!

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 Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 5:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook



 You know this as others has pointed out makes little sense. As a
 matter of fact, there is a possibility Apple will come out with a
 netbook in the next year or so. If they do, it will be by far better
 than any netbook out there. I heard a podcast where this fellow was
 running Linux as a VM on his XP Home netbook and it was painful to
 listen too. It was slow and he says he will be putting Leopard on it
 soon and I wouldn't have said that for all the world to hear. :) I
 wouldn't waste my time either, I don't think he'll find it very much
 fun.









 


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Re: Huge Problem with Keys

[Scott Howell]

Have you a spare keyboard, even if usb to determine if this is in fact  
a hardware problem? It would make no sense to go through installing  
the OS if you have a problem with the keyboard itself. ANy usb  
external keyboard should at least let you determine this. As far as  
the installation being accessible, it is if you take all of the proper  
steps.

1. Boot off the DVD
2. After the disc is done spinning, press command+f5 or on a laptop  
you likely will need to press function+command+f5.

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help with a site

[william lomas]

hi all i am trying to register myself for my energy provider for my  
new flat on the mac
the site keeps jumping around though with voiceover
Can I leave the main cursor on the main page and just move the  
keyboard focus with the mouse around the page filing in the form?
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Strange warning message

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi good people. Recently when i have tried to repair permissions i  
have gotten strange warnings. They say that: suid file this or that  
has changed and won't be repaired. Is this something to worry about  
and what should i do if it is? Can i remove the offending files, or  
should i do it at all?
TIA
/Krister

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Re: Software Update Problems - Please help

[Mike Arrigo]

If you did not set a password, you should just be able to press enter  
at this prompt and the install should continue.
On Apr 3, 2009, at 3:34 PM, rayna424 wrote:


 Hi Guys. I keep getting a message that software updates are available.
 But it asks me for a password, and I don't remember setting one up. Is
 there a way to search for it somewhere?

 Thanks,
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Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[ben mustill-rose]

tif won't get in trouble if she does it; apple doesn't have enough
time to go after one person who's got leopard on the netbook.

On 05/04/2009, sandi sørensen sandi1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well.
   i have not been  reading the total license when i have installed the
 os on the air or other macs i have. I'll admit it i am sooo close
 to doing it.
 Only thing that is holding me back is ...what if ?
 Tiffany obviously would gain a million more access too the device and
 i mean c'mon girls how hard can it be to take a cd... find out how it
 works and well lay a iso up on a server and send her the link?
 If we could get access too the computer in question via ubuntu or even
 better grml we could go it through chip by chip and install the
 drivers on the cd before making her the final image.
 My huge worry remains though.
 What if some one sees her using the little cute critter and slam her ?
 I for one would be pretty teary if i had made something to her that
 would put her in jail.
 Cara, true the air is alittle huge.I have one  with monitor and one
 without. I should add the one without was a sortta accident,
 Squirrelcarma hit it. Fact still remains it is alittle huge but girls
 is it good for readings! :) More so it is light... if you are sitting
 with a computer over sometimes 20 hours a day you need something light
 and small.
 Someone might ask... am I a total wimp? nope just 100 pounds so not
 much of me LOL
 There is only one huge downside with the air  a eventual netbook would
 take care of ... when it have not been used... it is ... cld...
 regards sandi who thinks it is time she reads the case  if they did
 not nail them on installing it,  thrill i might give it a try and see
 how far i can come.




 On Apr 4, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:


   Well (as has been said) I think the Air is sort of a hybrid attempt
 at that market, which I like. I love the Air's form factor but still
 prefer my lil MB! For me, if the Air were smaller, I'd be much more
 likely to consider purchasing one. I love the way they look, but
 they're just too darned big for my tastes!  lol!

 I definitely see Apple's side of things in terms of their reluctance
 to delve into the 'netbook' market, however, this trend is so large at
 the moment, that it's just a shame they're not really there. I would
 sooo prefer a small device running full-on OSX! (or even some flavor
 of it) This is one reason I so very much want an IPhone. I really
 would like a flavor of OSX that I can put in my purse.

   Don't get me wrong, I love having an accessible phone, but there's
 only so much Windows Mobile I can take!  lol!  So OSX (on a small
 device IPhone or netbook) would sure be a welcome addition to the
 market in my opinion.

 Anyway, great discussion!… Have an awesome day All!…

 Smiles,

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 On Apr 4, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:


 When apple came out with the  air, I was surprised that they didn't
 come out with a netbook.  I figured that they would come out with a
 netbook.
 On Apr 4, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:


   Hey All, I'd just like to ask if we might take care to sort of veer
 this topic back to the subject line rather than discussing what
 netbooks are?  I think Chris has his answer now, so we're cool.

   The idea of OSX on a netbook is certainly right on topic though, so
 please do feel free to post all you want on that!

 Smiles,

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Re: Strange warning message

[Esther]

Hi Krister,

You asked about warnings that appeared while recently repairing  
permissions:
 Hi good people. Recently when i have tried to repair permissions i
 have gotten strange warnings. They say that: suid file this or that
 has changed and won't be repaired. Is this something to worry about
 and what should i do if it is? Can i remove the offending files, or
 should i do it at all?

These warning messages can safely be ignored.  Here is the web page  
for Apple's Knowledge Base article dated March 6, 2009:

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS1448
(Mac OS X 10.5: Disk Utility's Repair Disk Permissions reports issues  
with SUID files)

I'm only pasting in their final comment about this issue:

begin excerpt
Resolution
You can safely ignore any SUID file or ACL found but not  
expected...  message. These messages are accurate but are not a cause  
for concern.

end excerpt

Cheers,

Esther

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Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[Tiffany D]

Thanks Ben.  You were the only person who really answered my
questions.  Certainly, if there is a disk image that I can download,
whether it's sent to me or whether someone sends me the link, I'd
definitely appreciate it.  What I choose do do with it is entirely my
decision so there should be no guilt involved.  Besides, I donno
anyone who'd give a damn about me installing Leopard on whatever.
Most of my friends off of this list don't even use Macs.  Btw, for
those interested, type in osx86 in Google.  There are tons of
interesting results.

On 04/04/2009, ben mustill-rose bmustillr...@gmail.com wrote:

 tif won't get in trouble if she does it; apple doesn't have enough
 time to go after one person who's got leopard on the netbook.

 On 05/04/2009, sandi sørensen sandi1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well.
   i have not been  reading the total license when i have installed the
 os on the air or other macs i have. I'll admit it i am sooo close
 to doing it.
 Only thing that is holding me back is ...what if ?
 Tiffany obviously would gain a million more access too the device and
 i mean c'mon girls how hard can it be to take a cd... find out how it
 works and well lay a iso up on a server and send her the link?
 If we could get access too the computer in question via ubuntu or even
 better grml we could go it through chip by chip and install the
 drivers on the cd before making her the final image.
 My huge worry remains though.
 What if some one sees her using the little cute critter and slam her ?
 I for one would be pretty teary if i had made something to her that
 would put her in jail.
 Cara, true the air is alittle huge.I have one  with monitor and one
 without. I should add the one without was a sortta accident,
 Squirrelcarma hit it. Fact still remains it is alittle huge but girls
 is it good for readings! :) More so it is light... if you are sitting
 with a computer over sometimes 20 hours a day you need something light
 and small.
 Someone might ask... am I a total wimp? nope just 100 pounds so not
 much of me LOL
 There is only one huge downside with the air  a eventual netbook would
 take care of ... when it have not been used... it is ... cld...
 regards sandi who thinks it is time she reads the case  if they did
 not nail them on installing it,  thrill i might give it a try and see
 how far i can come.




 On Apr 4, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:


   Well (as has been said) I think the Air is sort of a hybrid attempt
 at that market, which I like. I love the Air's form factor but still
 prefer my lil MB! For me, if the Air were smaller, I'd be much more
 likely to consider purchasing one. I love the way they look, but
 they're just too darned big for my tastes!  lol!

 I definitely see Apple's side of things in terms of their reluctance
 to delve into the 'netbook' market, however, this trend is so large at
 the moment, that it's just a shame they're not really there. I would
 sooo prefer a small device running full-on OSX! (or even some flavor
 of it) This is one reason I so very much want an IPhone. I really
 would like a flavor of OSX that I can put in my purse.

   Don't get me wrong, I love having an accessible phone, but there's
 only so much Windows Mobile I can take!  lol!  So OSX (on a small
 device IPhone or netbook) would sure be a welcome addition to the
 market in my opinion.

 Anyway, great discussion!… Have an awesome day All!…

 Smiles,

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 On Apr 4, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Dan Eickmeier wrote:


 When apple came out with the  air, I was surprised that they didn't
 come out with a netbook.  I figured that they would come out with a
 netbook.
 On Apr 4, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:


   Hey All, I'd just like to ask if we might take care to sort of veer
 this topic back to the subject line rather than discussing what
 netbooks are?  I think Chris has his answer now, so we're cool.

   The idea of OSX on a netbook is certainly right on topic though, so
 please do feel free to post all you want on that!

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Re: transfering to the iPod Shuffle 3g

[Scott Chesworth]

Hi All,

Ok, so thanks to Ryan and Esther, I'm now at the point where I've got
a few albums transfered over to the new shuffle.  What I'm trying to
work out now is the most productive and speedy way to accomplish
transfers every time I fancy switching up the content.  To give you an
idea, I have a pretty big iTunes library that's obsessively tidy, but
obviously only 4gb of space on the shuffle to play with, so syncing
everything is obviously not an option.  So far, syncing individual
playlists seems to be my best option, as I'm aiming to organise albums
by playlist on the shuffle rather than having 4gb of stuff to flick
through song by song if I'm looking for something specific.

So currently, I go to an album in the iTunes browser, select all, hit
command-shift-N to generate a playlist from selection.  I repeat that
step for each playlist I want to eventually transfer.  Then I seem to
have to go to the shuffle in the source list, interact with the iPod
settings, switch to the music tab, interact with the playlist table
and check each new playlist I just generated.

It gets the job done, but I can't believe there's not a genius on here
who has a quicker solution... perhaps something to do with smart
playlists or playlists within playlists or something neat.  As you
might guess, although I have an obsessively neat library, I've never
dabbled with playlists until now, the browser has always served me
well.

Any tips/tricks appreciated folks...
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Re: New URL for Louis, DTBmaker

[Alex Jurgensen]

Hi,

They are based upon Two differnt Aplhabets. i belive the U in  
question must remain as it was in the table, but if you indecate where  
in the table this appears, I can confirm it.

Thanks,
Alex,


On 3-Apr-09, at 11:01 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:


 What is the difference between these two tables? I also made the last
 letter of one into a standard u to make it simpler to handle in the
 program.

 Greg Kearney
 535 S. Jackson St.
 Casper, Wyoming 82601
 307-224-4022
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 On Apr 3, 2009, at 10:13 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:

 Hi,
 Greg,

 Here they are. Unfortunately I can't figure out what John said about
 them needing proofreading, but I've done my best.



 Ku-Yekgirtû-grade1.ctb.Ku-Hawar-Grade-1.ctb

 Thanks,
 Alex,


 On 3-Apr-09, at 8:34 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:


 Send it to me and I'll put it onto the page.

 Greg Kearney
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 On Apr 3, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,
 Greg.

 I did the table for Libloui already. At least the grade 1 because
 grade 2 is still under revision.

 Thanks,
 Alex,


 On 3-Apr-09, at 5:07 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:


 Not yet we need to find someone who knows Kurdish Braille to  
 make a
 table for us.

 Greg Kearney
 535 S. Jackson St.
 Casper, Wyoming 82601
 307-224-4022
 gkear...@gmail.com



 On Apr 2, 2009, at 11:41 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,

 Is the Kurdish Braille Table in there yet.

 Thanks,
 Alex,


 On 2-Apr-09, at 7:24 AM, Greg Kearney wrote:


 Please not the following URL changes for Louis Braille  
 Translator
 and
 DTBmaker persons having links to these programs from web pages
 should
 update their pages as needed.

 Louis: http://www.cucat.org/projects/louis
 DTBmaker: http://www.cucat.org/projects/dtbmaker

 Thank you.

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RE: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[Simon Fogarty]

Sandy,

 the netbooks do actually come with linux on some of them.

 Also, I know that there is documentation on the net about triple boot
machines,  or triple boot Acer EEE  netbooks.

 Think it's the EEE 1001 model that has been setup to take windows xp, linux
of some distribution and leopard.   
If I'm not mistaken they call the machine the 
100H model.

 Reading the documentation, it's not a simple process to setup the 3 os but
it would be cool to have.

 

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Um,  Eck skeuz? me?  Sue your c***?  Excuse me?  I r'r'reely! hope you
didn't mean the word ending with the letters, n t.  I find that word
obscenely! offensive!  If I hear language not just from you, but anyone! on
list again of this nature I? w'will! leave, no questions asked.  I am on
your side and agree with your feeling of stance, however, in all do respect,
mam, that was extremely obscenely vile/vulgar! Please in all do respect for
my sake, try to choicen your words a bit.  I know you starred it out, and
thank you for that, but that word r'really! did offend me honestly.  No need
to apologise, you didn't know, just in the future, all that I ask, in all do
respect, is please be more careful with your phraising.  That word is a
spoiler to me based on something in my childhood that happened.  I won't go
into it though.

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook



hey. :)
just for the record... keep in mind that. The law never mind if you
are blind of unable to use the little cute netbook without osx on it
says it is illegal to do it.
Meaning that apple can at anytime and with all right law in hand and
all that sue your cu***. With that said. Would i do it?
Not really it is alittle like buying a chevy and laying an lycomming
in it.
I mean... why not go out getting a netbook and be  legal  and lay
linux on it?
It would even be able to speak greek outta the box.


/sandi
On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:55 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:


 Wow, lots of questions, here goes:
 I went on Google and typed in install leopard netbook without the
 quotes.  the first site in the results is the one to which I'm
 referring.  I'm wondering if anyone has done this or if you think it
 would be successful/easy for me to do.  Let's keep it hypothetical to
 avoid legal drama.  Keep in mind that I don't have any experience with
 terminal or partitioning etc and the first parts of the installation
 probably wouldn't use sound, since the author said he installed that
 driver later.  I would be relying on sighted assistance from someone
 who's not too technically-oriented but who can follow instructions if
 they're clear.  The first site made sense but one of the links on it
 got very technical so my head is spinning.  The one thing I doubt I
 need to worry about is resolution since I can't see it anyway.
 Follow the instructions and you should be fine; just make sure that
 someones done it on the aspire before you get one so you can be sure
 it workss - partitions can get very messed up very quickly but again,
 follow the instructions; personally I think that partitioning is
 pretty obvious but meh, each to there own - you won't kill anything so
 give it a go.

  I have the installation disks that came with my Macbook so I'm
 assuming
 that's Leopard?  What's the difference, tech-wise, between that and
 the other version they mentioned on the site?
 The one that i'm guessing they mensioned is a modified version of
 leopard - ie: not the disks that came with your mb. You would have to
 learn how to use bit torrent, download and then burn the os they are
 speaking about and do it like that.
 Can it work on any netbook with similar specs?
 no! as I said ^, don't be the first to try it, be sure someones done
 it before.
 Does it still have VoiceOver on it?
 yes, talking install might not work; on some netbooks the headphone
 port or the speakers might not work.
 what would I need to do differently if I used my copy, cause he still
 talked about using a modified version, even though he chose a licensed
 copy.
 He's being sneaky to try and avoid a few grey airias of the 

Re: Key Identfication

[Esther]

Hi Tiffanitsa,

 Can anyone please tell me the key to hit so that I can hear the name
 of a key spoken?

Use VO-K to enter keyboard practice mode.  Pressing keys will announce  
their name in this mode.  Press the escape key (top left key in a U.S.  
keyboard) to leave keyboard practice mode.

Cheers,

Esther

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Re: Key Identfication

[Tiffany D]

Okay.  It's the function key that I'm missing on this new keyboard.
This is very very bad.

On 04/04/2009, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Tiffanitsa,

 Can anyone please tell me the key to hit so that I can hear the name
 of a key spoken?

 Use VO-K to enter keyboard practice mode.  Pressing keys will announce
 their name in this mode.  Press the escape key (top left key in a U.S.
 keyboard) to leave keyboard practice mode.

 Cheers,

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Re: Key Identfication

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VO K will turn on the keyboard tutorial.  Is this what you need?  Hope  
so.


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Re: Key Identfication

[Justin Harford]

Pardon but is this a netbook?

J

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tomorrow in Australia. Charles Schultz, creator of the Peanuts comic  
strip.

On 04/04/2009, at 18:44, Tiffany D wrote:


 Okay.  It's the function key that I'm missing on this new keyboard.
 This is very very bad.

 On 04/04/2009, Esther mori...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Tiffanitsa,

 Can anyone please tell me the key to hit so that I can hear the name
 of a key spoken?

 Use VO-K to enter keyboard practice mode.  Pressing keys will  
 announce
 their name in this mode.  Press the escape key (top left key in a  
 U.S.
 keyboard) to leave keyboard practice mode.

 Cheers,

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Re: Key Identfication

[Esther]

Hi Tiffanitsa,


 Okay.  It's the function key that I'm missing on this new keyboard.
 This is very very bad.

You said in a post in another thread that you bought this USB keyboard  
from the Apple Store?  If it is a full size keyboard the Fn key is in  
the second bank of keys, between the numeric keypad at the far right  
and the regular keyboard keys at the far left.  At the bottom of the  
second bank of keys, there are the arrow keys in the familiar   
inverted T configuration.  Move up from the left arrow key to the  
six-pack of keys above the inverted T of the arrow keys.  The Fn key  
is at the far left at the top of the six-pack, and to the right of the  
delete key on the regular keyboard (first bank of keys).   The six- 
pack keys are: Fn, Home, Page Up  then the next row below these:  
forward delete, End, Page Down.

Also, your MacBook should be in warranty if you have AppleCare, but  
you can check by going to the Apple's Online Service Assistant   
(Google it or use the web page address here):

https://selfsolve.apple.com/GetWarranty.do


In the first text field type in the serial number of your machine.   
You can find this by going to the Apple Menu (VO-M) and arrowing down  
to select About this Mac (and return).   At that page, you'll be at  
the Software Update button. VO-Left arrow to the field for your  
operating system version (e.g. Version10.5.6).  Route your cursor here  
(VO-Command-F5).  Then click twice using VO-Shift-Space by holding  
down the Control, Option, and Shift keys and tapping the space bar  
twice.  The first click gives your MacBook's machine build code  
(identifies when it was manufactured).  The second click gives you the  
Serial Number.  VO-Right arrow and then VO-Left arrow back onto this  
field to hear it announced.  Then use VO-Shift-C to copy the last  
phrase to the clipboard.  If you open up a TextEdit window and paste  
with Command-V you'll have the information you need.  The phrase will  
be Serial Number Wx.  You only need to copy the part with  
letters and numbers to paste into the text field.  You also need to  
change the pop up button for your country to United States.

When you press return, or navigate to the Continue button and press  
(VO-Space) You'll get information on your warranty status.  But the  
people at the Apple Store should have been able to check this for you,

HTH

Cheers,

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Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[Tiffany D]

Well, I don't use linux so am not interested in three operating
systems on my machine.  However, I am curious if I can install Leopard
through a virtual machine so that if something goes wrong I can just
delete the file.  Btw, I asked about the speed of the netbook I'm
considering at Staples and was told it's the equivalent of a Pentium
III.

On 04/04/2009, Simon Fogarty si...@blinky-net.com wrote:

 Sandy,

  the netbooks do actually come with linux on some of them.

  Also, I know that there is documentation on the net about triple boot
 machines,  or triple boot Acer EEE  netbooks.

  Think it's the EEE 1001 model that has been setup to take windows xp, linux
 of some distribution and leopard.
 If I'm not mistaken they call the machine the
 100H model.

  Reading the documentation, it's not a simple process to setup the 3 os but
 it would be cool to have.



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 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook


 Um,  Eck skeuz? me?  Sue your c***?  Excuse me?  I r'r'reely! hope you
 didn't mean the word ending with the letters, n t.  I find that word
 obscenely! offensive!  If I hear language not just from you, but anyone! on
 list again of this nature I? w'will! leave, no questions asked.  I am on
 your side and agree with your feeling of stance, however, in all do respect,
 mam, that was extremely obscenely vile/vulgar! Please in all do respect for
 my sake, try to choicen your words a bit.  I know you starred it out, and
 thank you for that, but that word r'really! did offend me honestly.  No need
 to apologise, you didn't know, just in the future, all that I ask, in all do
 respect, is please be more careful with your phraising.  That word is a
 spoiler to me based on something in my childhood that happened.  I won't go
 into it though.

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 Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook



 hey. :)
 just for the record... keep in mind that. The law never mind if you
 are blind of unable to use the little cute netbook without osx on it
 says it is illegal to do it.
 Meaning that apple can at anytime and with all right law in hand and
 all that sue your cu***. With that said. Would i do it?
 Not really it is alittle like buying a chevy and laying an lycomming
 in it.
 I mean... why not go out getting a netbook and be  legal  and lay
 linux on it?
 It would even be able to speak greek outta the box.


 /sandi
 On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:55 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:


 Wow, lots of questions, here goes:
 I went on Google and typed in install leopard netbook without the
 quotes.  the first site in the results is the one to which I'm
 referring.  I'm wondering if anyone has done this or if you think it
 would be successful/easy for me to do.  Let's keep it hypothetical to
 avoid legal drama.  Keep in mind that I don't have any experience with
 terminal or partitioning etc and the first parts of the installation
 probably wouldn't use sound, since the author said he installed that
 driver later.  I would be relying on sighted assistance from someone
 who's not too technically-oriented but who can follow instructions if
 they're clear.  The first site made sense but one of the links on it
 got very technical so my head is spinning.  The one thing I doubt I
 need to worry about is resolution since I can't see it anyway.
 Follow the instructions and you should be fine; just make sure that
 someones done it on the aspire before you get one so you can be sure
 it workss - partitions can get very messed up very quickly but again,
 follow the instructions; personally I think that partitioning is
 pretty obvious but meh, each to there own - you won't kill anything so
 give it a go.

  I have the installation disks that came with my Macbook so I'm
 assuming
 that's Leopard?  What's the difference, tech-wise, between that and
 the other version they mentioned on the site?
 The one that i'm guessing they mensioned is a modified version of
 leopard - ie: not the disks that came with your mb. You would have to
 learn how to use bit torrent, download and then burn the os they are
 speaking about and do it like that.
 Can it work on any netbook with 

Finding Serial Number and other detailed specs for your Mac [was Re: Key Identfication]

[Esther]

Hi Mark,

 MB: Wow, thanks a lot! I learned something by following your steps,  
 even
 though I don't have this problem.  I'd have never found that serial
 number without this.

Esther: That particular way of finding the serial number was something  
that I learned on list.  Here's the original post in the list archives:

http://www.mail-archive.com/disc...@macvisionaries.com/msg13122.html
(serial number of mac)

That post was made pre-Leopard, so the only thing I added to Lou's  
post was how to do the copy of last phrase to the clipboard.

In general, if you go to About this Mac and press the More Info  
button you bring up the System Profiler.  This gives you access to  
absolutely every detail about your Mac -- your processor name, speed,  
memory, bus speed, memory cache, etc.  The way I would have found the  
serial number before getting this hint is by pressing (VO-Space) the  
More Info button, then interact and select the top level Hardware  
entry in the Contents table.  (That's probably the default selection  
the first time you use this).  Then, I would stop interacting and tab  
to read the Hardware Overview. I'd find a dozen or so specs for the  
computer model, processor name, processor speed and number (e.g., 2  
for dual-core), memory configuration and memory cache, and a few other  
things, with the serial number listed near the end.

You can also select detailed components under the Hardware or Software  
entries in the Contents table and tab over or use VO+arrow keys (once  
or twice) to find more information.  For example, I could check the  
brand, model number, and serial number of the hard drive in my MacBook  
by selecting Serial-ATA under the hardware entries in the Contents  
table. The first tab takes me to the Serial-ATA device trees, which  
identifies the disk model of my hard drive (a Fujitsu drive).  The  
second tab takes me to a detailed litst of that hard drive's  
specifications, including the model number, revision, serial number,  
number of cylinders, partition map type, and lots of other things.

Similarly, you can select Applications under Software and find details  
of every app installed on your system, version number, when last  
modified, whether this is Universal Binary, Power PC (available to the  
Intel Mac through Rosetta), or Intel only.  There's tons of  
information in the Setup Assistant windows, but usually it's easier to  
query individual apps or find the information in summary format  
elsewhere.

HTH.

Cheers,

Esther

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Re: Key Identfication

[Ryan Dour]

Hello,

The second thing that appears when you click is actually the OS build  
identifier. That would be nice if it was the born on date, but I don't  
think that's stored anywhere in EFI or elsewhere. The builds, like  
9A581 (Leopard 10.5.0) are references for developers.

Ryan

On Apr 4, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Esther wrote:


 Hi Tiffanitsa,


 Okay.  It's the function key that I'm missing on this new keyboard.
 This is very very bad.

 You said in a post in another thread that you bought this USB keyboard
 from the Apple Store?  If it is a full size keyboard the Fn key is in
 the second bank of keys, between the numeric keypad at the far right
 and the regular keyboard keys at the far left.  At the bottom of the
 second bank of keys, there are the arrow keys in the familiar
 inverted T configuration.  Move up from the left arrow key to the
 six-pack of keys above the inverted T of the arrow keys.  The Fn key
 is at the far left at the top of the six-pack, and to the right of the
 delete key on the regular keyboard (first bank of keys).   The six-
 pack keys are: Fn, Home, Page Up  then the next row below these:
 forward delete, End, Page Down.

 Also, your MacBook should be in warranty if you have AppleCare, but
 you can check by going to the Apple's Online Service Assistant
 (Google it or use the web page address here):

 https://selfsolve.apple.com/GetWarranty.do


 In the first text field type in the serial number of your machine.
 You can find this by going to the Apple Menu (VO-M) and arrowing down
 to select About this Mac (and return).   At that page, you'll be at
 the Software Update button. VO-Left arrow to the field for your
 operating system version (e.g. Version10.5.6).  Route your cursor here
 (VO-Command-F5).  Then click twice using VO-Shift-Space by holding
 down the Control, Option, and Shift keys and tapping the space bar
 twice.  The first click gives your MacBook's machine build code
 (identifies when it was manufactured).  The second click gives you the
 Serial Number.  VO-Right arrow and then VO-Left arrow back onto this
 field to hear it announced.  Then use VO-Shift-C to copy the last
 phrase to the clipboard.  If you open up a TextEdit window and paste
 with Command-V you'll have the information you need.  The phrase will
 be Serial Number Wx.  You only need to copy the part with
 letters and numbers to paste into the text field.  You also need to
 change the pop up button for your country to United States.

 When you press return, or navigate to the Continue button and press
 (VO-Space) You'll get information on your warranty status.  But the
 people at the Apple Store should have been able to check this for you,

 HTH

 Cheers,

 Esther



 


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Re: Romeo 50 and Louis with Duxberry

[Alex Jurgensen]

Hi,

It is set up for a PC on Parallel already and the Vision Department  
have told me point blank that i acn't touch the device settings.

Thanks,
Alex,


On 4-Apr-09, at 8:06 PM, Ryan Dour wrote:


 Hello,

 First, if you've got the Keyspan USB device, you really just need a 9
 pin serial cable and most importantly, a null-modem adaptor. The
 adaptor can be purchased at a Radio Shack along with the serial cable.
 Don't worry, it is super cheap. If you want cheaper, find a local
 computer junk retailer, they for sure have serial cables. Be careful
 about the null-modem adaptor though, they are usually not labeled  
 well.

 On your Romeo 50, consult the manual to choose the correct menu. You
 want the PC menu, ignore their Mac instructions. They are about a
 decade out of date at this point, and refer to Macs with older built-
 in serial and Mac OS 9 or earlier. The PC menu works fine, you'll want
 to use the default communication settings.

 Now, use your favorite program to generate your braille file. I like
 Louis, but at the end of generating, don't send the file to the
 embosser direct. You have that option, but you'll end up with braille
 that shoots out about two pages of blank paper at the end. Instead,
 send the file over to the embosser yourself. Open the Terminal and
 type the following:

 cat ~/Documents/yourdoc.brl  /dev/cu.Ke (press tab to finish device
 selection)

 I don't know the device name exactly, thus why I told you to do /dev/
 cu.K (capitol K I believe). Your device will fill out, press return.

 Your embosser should come to life right away. If not, I had a real
 nasty time configuring one of these, but I finally did get it to work.
 The crazy part is that I helped a friend who's son is blind, and she
 embosses many things for school that he needs. It took us weeks to
 figure it out, and in the end, the correct USB to serial device and
 espacially the null-modem adaptor made the difference. You really do
 need the null-modem adaptor, you honestly can't get away with anything
 else. I find it lame that the USB device is incapable of reassigning
 and crossing its own internal pins on the fly, but that's what makes
 the market for adaptors I guess.

 If all else fails, Skype is pretty cool, maybe I could help you out.
 I'd connect you with the one other person I know who has a Romeo 50,
 but since I set it up for her, she wouldn't be much help.

 Good luck,
 Ryan



 On Apr 4, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,
 All,

 Two questions,

 Where can I get the Duxbury for the Mac that Duxbury Systems
 advertizes? I need version 10.6 not 10.7 as is posted on there site.
 Also I require to know how to use the Romeo 50 with Louis on the
 Parallel interface. My current set up is Kespan USB to Serial Adapter
 and then a male to male Serial cable and then a serial to Parallel
 adapter and then a Paarallel to embosser/printer cable. I appologize
 but my school won't pay for anything else.

 Thanks,
 Alex,






 


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Re: Romeo 50 and Louis with Duxberry

[Alex Jurgensen]

Hi,

How do I know it is a Null Modem Cable. I have zillions of Serial  
Cables here.

Thanks,
Alex,


On 4-Apr-09, at 8:06 PM, Ryan Dour wrote:


 Hello,

 First, if you've got the Keyspan USB device, you really just need a 9
 pin serial cable and most importantly, a null-modem adaptor. The
 adaptor can be purchased at a Radio Shack along with the serial cable.
 Don't worry, it is super cheap. If you want cheaper, find a local
 computer junk retailer, they for sure have serial cables. Be careful
 about the null-modem adaptor though, they are usually not labeled  
 well.

 On your Romeo 50, consult the manual to choose the correct menu. You
 want the PC menu, ignore their Mac instructions. They are about a
 decade out of date at this point, and refer to Macs with older built-
 in serial and Mac OS 9 or earlier. The PC menu works fine, you'll want
 to use the default communication settings.

 Now, use your favorite program to generate your braille file. I like
 Louis, but at the end of generating, don't send the file to the
 embosser direct. You have that option, but you'll end up with braille
 that shoots out about two pages of blank paper at the end. Instead,
 send the file over to the embosser yourself. Open the Terminal and
 type the following:

 cat ~/Documents/yourdoc.brl  /dev/cu.Ke (press tab to finish device
 selection)

 I don't know the device name exactly, thus why I told you to do /dev/
 cu.K (capitol K I believe). Your device will fill out, press return.

 Your embosser should come to life right away. If not, I had a real
 nasty time configuring one of these, but I finally did get it to work.
 The crazy part is that I helped a friend who's son is blind, and she
 embosses many things for school that he needs. It took us weeks to
 figure it out, and in the end, the correct USB to serial device and
 espacially the null-modem adaptor made the difference. You really do
 need the null-modem adaptor, you honestly can't get away with anything
 else. I find it lame that the USB device is incapable of reassigning
 and crossing its own internal pins on the fly, but that's what makes
 the market for adaptors I guess.

 If all else fails, Skype is pretty cool, maybe I could help you out.
 I'd connect you with the one other person I know who has a Romeo 50,
 but since I set it up for her, she wouldn't be much help.

 Good luck,
 Ryan



 On Apr 4, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,
 All,

 Two questions,

 Where can I get the Duxbury for the Mac that Duxbury Systems
 advertizes? I need version 10.6 not 10.7 as is posted on there site.
 Also I require to know how to use the Romeo 50 with Louis on the
 Parallel interface. My current set up is Kespan USB to Serial Adapter
 and then a male to male Serial cable and then a serial to Parallel
 adapter and then a Paarallel to embosser/printer cable. I appologize
 but my school won't pay for anything else.

 Thanks,
 Alex,






 


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Re: Romeo 50 and Louis with Duxberry

[Greg Kearney]

Please call me and let's talk this over. Im at the number below.

Greg Kearney
535 S. Jackson St.
Casper, Wyoming 82601
307-224-4022
gkear...@gmail.com



On Apr 4, 2009, at 9:17 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,

 How do I know it is a Null Modem Cable. I have zillions of Serial
 Cables here.

 Thanks,
 Alex,


 On 4-Apr-09, at 8:06 PM, Ryan Dour wrote:


 Hello,

 First, if you've got the Keyspan USB device, you really just need a 9
 pin serial cable and most importantly, a null-modem adaptor. The
 adaptor can be purchased at a Radio Shack along with the serial  
 cable.
 Don't worry, it is super cheap. If you want cheaper, find a local
 computer junk retailer, they for sure have serial cables. Be careful
 about the null-modem adaptor though, they are usually not labeled
 well.

 On your Romeo 50, consult the manual to choose the correct menu. You
 want the PC menu, ignore their Mac instructions. They are about a
 decade out of date at this point, and refer to Macs with older built-
 in serial and Mac OS 9 or earlier. The PC menu works fine, you'll  
 want
 to use the default communication settings.

 Now, use your favorite program to generate your braille file. I like
 Louis, but at the end of generating, don't send the file to the
 embosser direct. You have that option, but you'll end up with braille
 that shoots out about two pages of blank paper at the end. Instead,
 send the file over to the embosser yourself. Open the Terminal and
 type the following:

 cat ~/Documents/yourdoc.brl  /dev/cu.Ke (press tab to finish device
 selection)

 I don't know the device name exactly, thus why I told you to do /dev/
 cu.K (capitol K I believe). Your device will fill out, press return.

 Your embosser should come to life right away. If not, I had a real
 nasty time configuring one of these, but I finally did get it to  
 work.
 The crazy part is that I helped a friend who's son is blind, and she
 embosses many things for school that he needs. It took us weeks to
 figure it out, and in the end, the correct USB to serial device and
 espacially the null-modem adaptor made the difference. You really do
 need the null-modem adaptor, you honestly can't get away with  
 anything
 else. I find it lame that the USB device is incapable of reassigning
 and crossing its own internal pins on the fly, but that's what makes
 the market for adaptors I guess.

 If all else fails, Skype is pretty cool, maybe I could help you out.
 I'd connect you with the one other person I know who has a Romeo 50,
 but since I set it up for her, she wouldn't be much help.

 Good luck,
 Ryan



 On Apr 4, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,
 All,

 Two questions,

 Where can I get the Duxbury for the Mac that Duxbury Systems
 advertizes? I need version 10.6 not 10.7 as is posted on there site.
 Also I require to know how to use the Romeo 50 with Louis on the
 Parallel interface. My current set up is Kespan USB to Serial  
 Adapter
 and then a male to male Serial cable and then a serial to Parallel
 adapter and then a Paarallel to embosser/printer cable. I appologize
 but my school won't pay for anything else.

 Thanks,
 Alex,









 


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Re: Finding Serial Number and other detailed specs for your Mac [was Re: Key Identfication]

[Mark Baxter]

I actually tried the method you suggest here first, before doing it  
the original way. I got a different serial number than the one I  
needed which, when I plugged it into the on-line assistant, gave back  
a sorry, that serial number is invalid.  Most likely, I had the  
wrong table entry selected, though I did search through those tables.   
What exactly *does* the limited warranty cover? :)


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Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[Tiffany D]

Will it run slower that way?  I just read that even installing it
directly onto the machine will result in a very slow netbook.
Apparently, things with sound etc don't work that well cause the cpu
is slow.  Not sure if this is true.  What about things like youtube or
downloading songs?

On 04/04/2009, E.J. Zufelt ever...@zufelt.ca wrote:

 Good evening,

 The challenges and barriers that you will face installing Leopard in a
 Virtual Machine are comparable to the challenges that you will face
 installing it onto native, non-Mac, hardware.  The biggest challenge
 will be  whether your virtualization platform can emulate devices
 (audio, network, etc.) for which you can find Leopard compatible
 drivers.

 HTH,
 Everett


 On 4-Apr-09, at 11:45 PM, Tiffany D wrote:


 Well, I don't use linux so am not interested in three operating
 systems on my machine.  However, I am curious if I can install Leopard
 through a virtual machine so that if something goes wrong I can just
 delete the file.  Btw, I asked about the speed of the netbook I'm
 considering at Staples and was told it's the equivalent of a Pentium
 III.

 On 04/04/2009, Simon Fogarty si...@blinky-net.com wrote:

 Sandy,

 the netbooks do actually come with linux on some of them.

 Also, I know that there is documentation on the net about triple boot
 machines,  or triple boot Acer EEE  netbooks.

 Think it's the EEE 1001 model that has been setup to take windows
 xp, linux
 of some distribution and leopard.
 If I'm not mistaken they call the machine the
 100H model.

 Reading the documentation, it's not a simple process to setup the 3
 os but
 it would be cool to have.



 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
 Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2009 2:35 p.m.
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook


 Um,  Eck skeuz? me?  Sue your c***?  Excuse me?  I r'r'reely! hope
 you
 didn't mean the word ending with the letters, n t.  I find that word
 obscenely! offensive!  If I hear language not just from you, but
 anyone! on
 list again of this nature I? w'will! leave, no questions asked.  I
 am on
 your side and agree with your feeling of stance, however, in all do
 respect,
 mam, that was extremely obscenely vile/vulgar! Please in all do
 respect for
 my sake, try to choicen your words a bit.  I know you starred it
 out, and
 thank you for that, but that word r'really! did offend me
 honestly.  No need
 to apologise, you didn't know, just in the future, all that I ask,
 in all do
 respect, is please be more careful with your phraising.  That word
 is a
 spoiler to me based on something in my childhood that happened.  I
 won't go
 into it though.

 Chris.


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 - Original Message -
 From: sandi sørensen sandi1...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook



 hey. :)
 just for the record... keep in mind that. The law never mind if you
 are blind of unable to use the little cute netbook without osx on it
 says it is illegal to do it.
 Meaning that apple can at anytime and with all right law in hand and
 all that sue your cu***. With that said. Would i do it?
 Not really it is alittle like buying a chevy and laying an lycomming
 in it.
 I mean... why not go out getting a netbook and be  legal  and lay
 linux on it?
 It would even be able to speak greek outta the box.


 /sandi
 On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:55 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:


 Wow, lots of questions, here goes:
 I went on Google and typed in install leopard netbook without the
 quotes.  the first site in the results is the one to which I'm
 referring.  I'm wondering if anyone has done this or if you think it
 would be successful/easy for me to do.  Let's keep it hypothetical
 to
 avoid legal drama.  Keep in mind that I don't have any experience
 with
 terminal or partitioning etc and the first parts of the installation
 probably wouldn't use sound, since the author said he installed that
 driver later.  I would be relying on sighted assistance from someone
 who's not too technically-oriented but who can follow instructions
 if
 they're clear.  The first site made sense but one of the links on it
 got very technical so my head is spinning.  The one thing I doubt I
 need to worry about is resolution since I can't see it anyway.
 Follow the instructions and you should 

Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[E.J. Zufelt]

Good evening,

Any operating system running in a VM is slower than if it were running  
natively on the same machine.

HTH,
Everett


On 5-Apr-09, at 1:06 AM, Tiffany D wrote:


 Will it run slower that way?  I just read that even installing it
 directly onto the machine will result in a very slow netbook.
 Apparently, things with sound etc don't work that well cause the cpu
 is slow.  Not sure if this is true.  What about things like youtube or
 downloading songs?

 On 04/04/2009, E.J. Zufelt ever...@zufelt.ca wrote:

 Good evening,

 The challenges and barriers that you will face installing Leopard  
 in a
 Virtual Machine are comparable to the challenges that you will face
 installing it onto native, non-Mac, hardware.  The biggest challenge
 will be  whether your virtualization platform can emulate devices
 (audio, network, etc.) for which you can find Leopard compatible
 drivers.

 HTH,
 Everett


 On 4-Apr-09, at 11:45 PM, Tiffany D wrote:


 Well, I don't use linux so am not interested in three operating
 systems on my machine.  However, I am curious if I can install  
 Leopard
 through a virtual machine so that if something goes wrong I can just
 delete the file.  Btw, I asked about the speed of the netbook I'm
 considering at Staples and was told it's the equivalent of a Pentium
 III.

 On 04/04/2009, Simon Fogarty si...@blinky-net.com wrote:

 Sandy,

 the netbooks do actually come with linux on some of them.

 Also, I know that there is documentation on the net about triple  
 boot
 machines,  or triple boot Acer EEE  netbooks.

 Think it's the EEE 1001 model that has been setup to take windows
 xp, linux
 of some distribution and leopard.
 If I'm not mistaken they call the machine the
 100H model.

 Reading the documentation, it's not a simple process to setup the 3
 os but
 it would be cool to have.



 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Gilland
 Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2009 2:35 p.m.
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook


 Um,  Eck skeuz? me?  Sue your c***?  Excuse me?  I r'r'reely! hope
 you
 didn't mean the word ending with the letters, n t.  I find that  
 word
 obscenely! offensive!  If I hear language not just from you, but
 anyone! on
 list again of this nature I? w'will! leave, no questions asked.  I
 am on
 your side and agree with your feeling of stance, however, in all do
 respect,
 mam, that was extremely obscenely vile/vulgar! Please in all do
 respect for
 my sake, try to choicen your words a bit.  I know you starred it
 out, and
 thank you for that, but that word r'really! did offend me
 honestly.  No need
 to apologise, you didn't know, just in the future, all that I ask,
 in all do
 respect, is please be more careful with your phraising.  That word
 is a
 spoiler to me based on something in my childhood that happened.  I
 won't go
 into it though.

 Chris.


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 - Original Message -
 From: sandi sørensen sandi1...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook



 hey. :)
 just for the record... keep in mind that. The law never mind if you
 are blind of unable to use the little cute netbook without osx on  
 it
 says it is illegal to do it.
 Meaning that apple can at anytime and with all right law in hand  
 and
 all that sue your cu***. With that said. Would i do it?
 Not really it is alittle like buying a chevy and laying an  
 lycomming
 in it.
 I mean... why not go out getting a netbook and be  legal  and lay
 linux on it?
 It would even be able to speak greek outta the box.


 /sandi
 On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:55 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:


 Wow, lots of questions, here goes:
 I went on Google and typed in install leopard netbook without  
 the
 quotes.  the first site in the results is the one to which I'm
 referring.  I'm wondering if anyone has done this or if you  
 think it
 would be successful/easy for me to do.  Let's keep it hypothetical
 to
 avoid legal drama.  Keep in mind that I don't have any experience
 with
 terminal or partitioning etc and the first parts of the  
 installation
 probably wouldn't use sound, since the author said he installed  
 that
 driver later.  I would be relying on sighted assistance from  
 someone
 who's not too technically-oriented but who can follow instructions
 if
 they're clear.  

Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook

[Justin Harford]

Probably shouldn't put it on a virtual machine, those require a lot of  
physical resources which I bet a netbook would be pressed for.

Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already  
tomorrow in Australia. Charles Schultz, creator of the Peanuts comic  
strip.

On 04/04/2009, at 21:09, E.J. Zufelt wrote:


 Good evening,

 Any operating system running in a VM is slower than if it were running
 natively on the same machine.

 HTH,
 Everett


 On 5-Apr-09, at 1:06 AM, Tiffany D wrote:


 Will it run slower that way?  I just read that even installing it
 directly onto the machine will result in a very slow netbook.
 Apparently, things with sound etc don't work that well cause the cpu
 is slow.  Not sure if this is true.  What about things like youtube  
 or
 downloading songs?

 On 04/04/2009, E.J. Zufelt ever...@zufelt.ca wrote:

 Good evening,

 The challenges and barriers that you will face installing Leopard
 in a
 Virtual Machine are comparable to the challenges that you will face
 installing it onto native, non-Mac, hardware.  The biggest challenge
 will be  whether your virtualization platform can emulate devices
 (audio, network, etc.) for which you can find Leopard compatible
 drivers.

 HTH,
 Everett


 On 4-Apr-09, at 11:45 PM, Tiffany D wrote:


 Well, I don't use linux so am not interested in three operating
 systems on my machine.  However, I am curious if I can install
 Leopard
 through a virtual machine so that if something goes wrong I can  
 just
 delete the file.  Btw, I asked about the speed of the netbook I'm
 considering at Staples and was told it's the equivalent of a  
 Pentium
 III.

 On 04/04/2009, Simon Fogarty si...@blinky-net.com wrote:

 Sandy,

 the netbooks do actually come with linux on some of them.

 Also, I know that there is documentation on the net about triple
 boot
 machines,  or triple boot Acer EEE  netbooks.

 Think it's the EEE 1001 model that has been setup to take windows
 xp, linux
 of some distribution and leopard.
 If I'm not mistaken they call the machine the
 100H model.

 Reading the documentation, it's not a simple process to setup  
 the 3
 os but
 it would be cool to have.



 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris  
 Gilland
 Sent: Saturday, 4 April 2009 2:35 p.m.
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook


 Um,  Eck skeuz? me?  Sue your c***?  Excuse me?  I r'r'reely! hope
 you
 didn't mean the word ending with the letters, n t.  I find that
 word
 obscenely! offensive!  If I hear language not just from you, but
 anyone! on
 list again of this nature I? w'will! leave, no questions asked.  I
 am on
 your side and agree with your feeling of stance, however, in all  
 do
 respect,
 mam, that was extremely obscenely vile/vulgar! Please in all do
 respect for
 my sake, try to choicen your words a bit.  I know you starred it
 out, and
 thank you for that, but that word r'really! did offend me
 honestly.  No need
 to apologise, you didn't know, just in the future, all that I ask,
 in all do
 respect, is please be more careful with your phraising.  That word
 is a
 spoiler to me based on something in my childhood that happened.  I
 won't go
 into it though.

 Chris.


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 - Original Message -
 From: sandi sørensen sandi1...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:50 AM
 Subject: Re: Installing Leopard on a Netbook



 hey. :)
 just for the record... keep in mind that. The law never mind if  
 you
 are blind of unable to use the little cute netbook without osx on
 it
 says it is illegal to do it.
 Meaning that apple can at anytime and with all right law in hand
 and
 all that sue your cu***. With that said. Would i do it?
 Not really it is alittle like buying a chevy and laying an
 lycomming
 in it.
 I mean... why not go out getting a netbook and be  legal  and lay
 linux on it?
 It would even be able to speak greek outta the box.


 /sandi
 On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:55 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote:


 Wow, lots of questions, here goes:
 I went on Google and typed in install leopard netbook without
 the
 quotes.  the first site in the results is the one to which I'm
 referring.  I'm wondering if anyone has done this or if you
 think it
 would be successful/easy for me to do.  Let's keep it  
 hypothetical
 to
 avoid legal drama.  Keep in mind that I don't 

Re: Romeo 50 and Louis with Duxberry

[Alex Jurgensen]

Hi,

Is there a possibility of Skype since I have very few Long Distance  
minutes. I appologize for the inconviniance.

Thanks,
Alex,


On 4-Apr-09, at 8:20 PM, Greg Kearney wrote:


 Please call me and let's talk this over. Im at the number below.

 Greg Kearney
 535 S. Jackson St.
 Casper, Wyoming 82601
 307-224-4022
 gkear...@gmail.com



 On Apr 4, 2009, at 9:17 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,

 How do I know it is a Null Modem Cable. I have zillions of Serial
 Cables here.

 Thanks,
 Alex,


 On 4-Apr-09, at 8:06 PM, Ryan Dour wrote:


 Hello,

 First, if you've got the Keyspan USB device, you really just need  
 a 9
 pin serial cable and most importantly, a null-modem adaptor. The
 adaptor can be purchased at a Radio Shack along with the serial
 cable.
 Don't worry, it is super cheap. If you want cheaper, find a local
 computer junk retailer, they for sure have serial cables. Be careful
 about the null-modem adaptor though, they are usually not labeled
 well.

 On your Romeo 50, consult the manual to choose the correct menu. You
 want the PC menu, ignore their Mac instructions. They are about a
 decade out of date at this point, and refer to Macs with older  
 built-
 in serial and Mac OS 9 or earlier. The PC menu works fine, you'll
 want
 to use the default communication settings.

 Now, use your favorite program to generate your braille file. I like
 Louis, but at the end of generating, don't send the file to the
 embosser direct. You have that option, but you'll end up with  
 braille
 that shoots out about two pages of blank paper at the end. Instead,
 send the file over to the embosser yourself. Open the Terminal and
 type the following:

 cat ~/Documents/yourdoc.brl  /dev/cu.Ke (press tab to finish device
 selection)

 I don't know the device name exactly, thus why I told you to do / 
 dev/
 cu.K (capitol K I believe). Your device will fill out, press return.

 Your embosser should come to life right away. If not, I had a real
 nasty time configuring one of these, but I finally did get it to
 work.
 The crazy part is that I helped a friend who's son is blind, and she
 embosses many things for school that he needs. It took us weeks to
 figure it out, and in the end, the correct USB to serial device and
 espacially the null-modem adaptor made the difference. You really do
 need the null-modem adaptor, you honestly can't get away with
 anything
 else. I find it lame that the USB device is incapable of reassigning
 and crossing its own internal pins on the fly, but that's what makes
 the market for adaptors I guess.

 If all else fails, Skype is pretty cool, maybe I could help you out.
 I'd connect you with the one other person I know who has a Romeo 50,
 but since I set it up for her, she wouldn't be much help.

 Good luck,
 Ryan



 On Apr 4, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:


 Hi,
 All,

 Two questions,

 Where can I get the Duxbury for the Mac that Duxbury Systems
 advertizes? I need version 10.6 not 10.7 as is posted on there  
 site.
 Also I require to know how to use the Romeo 50 with Louis on the
 Parallel interface. My current set up is Kespan USB to Serial
 Adapter
 and then a male to male Serial cable and then a serial to Parallel
 adapter and then a Paarallel to embosser/printer cable. I  
 appologize
 but my school won't pay for anything else.

 Thanks,
 Alex,












 


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