Re: A Question Regarding OCR
there is a free application that is designed to work with just about every type of multimedia file (including PDF's and some others). its called irFanView. the reason I bring up this application is that I spotted an OCR function in it the other day while trying to correct another problem. It appears to do quite well at getting text from just about any graphics file. it is also screen reader friendly with NVDA (which I was pleasantly surprised by). I am not sure how well it works overall as I was only able to test it with a very small number of graphic based files. I may have to install windows in a VM, then place NVDA on there and install irFanView to test it more extensively. if anyone else wants to try this out, I can send the link to the site upon request. thanks. -eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Braille displays
I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on an iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display that it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to carry the display around. To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, when I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the other screen readers could say that their program could support that many displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me about this, but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote: I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad price even though it only has 12 cells. The new 16 cell display and basic notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is a better deal too. And, the Refresh A Braille from American Printing House for the Blind with 18 cells for $1,695 is a good deal, and a very well made display. Don't get me wrong, I realize these prices are still too high for many people, but at least we are starting to see prices down to where more people may at least have a chance of saving up to buy one. But, at $5,000 for a 40 cell display very few people can afford a Braille display without help from somewhere. - Original Message - From: James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:13 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Hi Mark, I envy you acquiring the braille display especially. I really wish I were incorrect, but I know I am not missing anything or out of date in my understanding that the price of braille displays are just rediculously out of sight in price about 3 to 4 times over and then some. Still being a common man and feeling blessed and lucky to be able to achieve a few thousand in savings at any point in time at best I don't think a braille display for personal use is anywhere in my near future. Maybe I have already said too much, but what it takes to be able to obtain such technology just makes you throw your hands up in frustration. On 4/2/12, David Tanner david.tanner...@gmail.com wrote: And, I bet it is a lot cheaper too. - Original Message - From: Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:35 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Hi all! Has anybody used Abby fine reader express for the mac? I just downloaded a trial version and it was much better than a few years ago. It worked with my old epson perfection scanner and I was able to scan and edit a document. I guess it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of kurzweil but for basic stuff it seemed fine. I am seriously considering a purchase of fine reader. Jim On Apr 2, 2012, at 8:21 PM, David Tanner wrote: It is alive and well... Do you have version 12 patch 4? That is the latest release and there is some support for at least one digital camera in that patch upgrade. As far as Kurzweil 1000 on the Mac; the news isn't good. There is Kurzweil3000 for the Mac, but the folks at Cambian Learning don't think they can make enough profit on us blind folks so they say they will not release a version for Apple because if every blind person baught a copy of Kurzweil1000 for Mac they still couldn't make enough profit to make it worth it for them to do that. - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:04 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Any hope for those of us Kurzweil users? I could live with my old Epson Perfection scanner, but the new HP all in one takes forever. It's true that it's quieter by a lot, but it's probably 30 to 45 seconds on the scanning phase. I hate the mail now more than I ever did, but I don't have the space nor USB ports for both devices on the desk. If I ever went
Re: Braille displays
Hi Gi Gi. I own a Eurobraille40 but you would not think it was if you held it. I agree these displays are expensive but I'd never be without it as braille for me is a god send as far as remembering information. It's just great that the Macs and I devices do not need drivers unlike window products. Kawal. On 4 Apr 2012, at 11:46 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on an iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display that it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to carry the display around. To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, when I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the other screen readers could say that their program could support that many displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me about this, but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote: I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad price even though it only has 12 cells. The new 16 cell display and basic notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is a better deal too. And, the Refresh A Braille from American Printing House for the Blind with 18 cells for $1,695 is a good deal, and a very well made display. Don't get me wrong, I realize these prices are still too high for many people, but at least we are starting to see prices down to where more people may at least have a chance of saving up to buy one. But, at $5,000 for a 40 cell display very few people can afford a Braille display without help from somewhere. - Original Message - From: James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:13 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Hi Mark, I envy you acquiring the braille display especially. I really wish I were incorrect, but I know I am not missing anything or out of date in my understanding that the price of braille displays are just rediculously out of sight in price about 3 to 4 times over and then some. Still being a common man and feeling blessed and lucky to be able to achieve a few thousand in savings at any point in time at best I don't think a braille display for personal use is anywhere in my near future. Maybe I have already said too much, but what it takes to be able to obtain such technology just makes you throw your hands up in frustration. On 4/2/12, David Tanner david.tanner...@gmail.com wrote: And, I bet it is a lot cheaper too. - Original Message - From: Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:35 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Hi all! Has anybody used Abby fine reader express for the mac? I just downloaded a trial version and it was much better than a few years ago. It worked with my old epson perfection scanner and I was able to scan and edit a document. I guess it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of kurzweil but for basic stuff it seemed fine. I am seriously considering a purchase of fine reader. Jim On Apr 2, 2012, at 8:21 PM, David Tanner wrote: It is alive and well... Do you have version 12 patch 4? That is the latest release and there is some support for at least one digital camera in that patch upgrade. As far as Kurzweil 1000 on the Mac; the news isn't good. There is Kurzweil3000 for the Mac, but the folks at Cambian Learning don't think they can make enough profit on us blind folks so they say they will not release a version for Apple because if every blind person baught a copy of Kurzweil1000 for Mac they still couldn't make enough profit to make it worth it for them to do that. - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April
Re: A Question Regarding OCR
Hi Ricardo. I'm not against any company making money. However, I think that sometimes, when it comes us totally blind folks, too many companies assume they can't do something when they could combine features to make it universal access. That's why I said what I did. There are going to be programs out there, because of the nature of the program, that we totally blind folks will never be able to use. That's just the way it is. However, I think too many times software is made inaccessible to us totals when it doesn't have to be, especially if good planning is done from the start. I think it is especially important for a company writing specialized software to make that software universally accessible to their customers. I didn't used to think that until I met several people who had gotten from the state magnification software for their computer, then lost vision, and found themselves with a useless computer. For Windows, this software costs so much that it is bad business, in my view, not to make it versatile. Let's make this discussion a little more on our topic since I think we've drifted a little. As for companies making money, I hope Apple, for one, continues to make stacks and stacks of it. In fact, I want Apple to continue to make so much money that they won't look around and says to themselves one day: We better get rid of those VoiceOver users. They're too much trouble, and we could save a lot by not working with them any more. Regards, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 3, 2012, at 8:56 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, Why shouldn't they want to make money? Its a company, not a not for profit agency after all. The people that work there can't feed themselves on the gratitude of blind people. Now, should they price gouge? Of course not. But to admit you want to make money is no bad thing in my eyes. JMO. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:39 AM, Gigi gigifi...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi guys It really bothers me that a company that makes specialized software would make a remark about not doing software for us totally blind folks because they couldn't make any money on it. First of all, I have a real problem that there is a special software for the totally blind folks, and another software for others. But they really need, is Kurzweil 4000, to combine everything. I see no reason why they can't do it. It seems to me, they just don't want to. Besides, if one is a partially sighted person, and they buy an expensive program that they can use with their vision, and their vision gets worse, then they have to spend big bucks to get a different program. I see no reason why the disabled community should support that kind of attitude. Regards Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2012, at 10:45 PM, David Tanner david.tanner...@gmail.com wrote: Well, Kurzweil upgrades are quite reasonable. Regardless of what version of the software you have the upgrade price is $125. So, if you are at version 6 you can go all the way to version 12 for $125 and if there is a new version within a year I believe that you get it for free, but don't take that for absolute fact . I am not a Kurzweil dealor and I may be wrong on the free upgrade to the next version if it comes out within less than a year. But I do know the upgrade price is $125. - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 10:00 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR No, I haven't upgraded in many years, didn't think the accuracy of OCR really improved all that much necessarily, only used it for scanning mail once in awhile, but all in one printers sure scan slower than any scanner I've used before. I wish I knew where I put the big box that probably had version 6 in it, but if it's like Jaws or anything else I'll end up with a new disk when I purchase the upgrade. I hope those are still reasonable yet. - Original Message - From: David Tanner david.tanner...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:21 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR It is alive and well... Do you have version 12 patch 4? That is the latest release and there is some support for at least one digital camera in that patch upgrade. As far as Kurzweil 1000 on the Mac; the news isn't good. There is Kurzweil3000 for the Mac, but the folks at Cambian Learning don't think they can make enough profit on us blind folks so they say they will not release a version for Apple because if every blind person baught a copy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: apple accessability telephone
Hi Guys. I have called this number twice, and it is wonderful. They do ask if you're running accessibility options because those who are not should not be calling that number. But for us, it is great. You don't get transferred, and you go to where you would have been in first place before. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, It's 1-877-2043930 Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Walter Harper walterharp...@gmail.com wrote: Hello listers, What is the apple accessibility telephone number -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: A Question Regarding OCR
There's one called the EyePal solo which is made by the same company but it's a standalone machine. The spec is pretty poor though and it's accessories are very expensive. It's worth avoiding in my view unless you have some extenuating sircomstance. Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-03, at 7:57 PM, Brent Harding wrote: I thought the IPal was a full computer in of itself. I thought it was one of those like the GW Small Talk or OQO with a camera built in. I might be thinking of a different one, but if this was the same one, isn't the computer irrelevant besides transferring saved files? - Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:41 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Can you run the IPal independently of the Mac and if you want to put anything on the mac afterwards what do you do? On 3 Apr 2012, at 10:35 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Mark, it's too bad you hadn't looked into this before you bought the pearl. I teach both eyepal and pearl, and while I like the look of the pearl better, the eyepal does at least as good a job with no duel booting required. It's just awfully tough to justify the price tag of the eyepal after the outlay on the pearl. Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-03, at 5:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Scott, The Pearl with OpenBook is the most amazing thing I have ever seen (no pun intended). I will use BootCamp on my Mac, then. Thank you, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Erichsen Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 3:41 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: A Question Regarding OCR Hi Mark, The Pearl will only work with OpenBOok 9.0 and will only work under windows. The two options that work with the Mac are the hoverCam with DocuScan Plus from Serotek and the EyePal. Personally I like the Pearl and OpenBOok as the accuracy is fantastic from everything I've scanned. Cheers. Scott -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2012 8:31 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: A Question Regarding OCR Hello Everyone, In addition to being the proud owner of a Focus 40 Blue, I also obtained Freedom Scientific's Pearl camera along with OpenBook 9.0. To put it simply, I am stunned with the OCR performance in both OpenBook and the accuracy of the camera along with the dazzling speed of the image acquisition experience. I think what blows my mind the most is the motion detection that allows one to turn pages and when the new page is in view of the camera, it automatically takes a photo and begins the OCR process. I swear it feels as though I have a sighted person reading for me. I could go on and on but ... I realize that the pearl has been out for quite some time and am wondering if anyone knows if it will work with anything on the Mac. I know one thing for sure, with the Pearl in my toolbox, I have put my scanner away for good. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. --
Re: Braille displays
Well, window-eyes actually supports a lot more than apple does, but apple for sure supports all of the modern ones. Except that they are footdragging on the brialliant BI displays. Most of the ones they're missing are legacy serial and parallel devices. Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-04, at 6:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on an iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display that it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to carry the display around. To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, when I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the other screen readers could say that their program could support that many displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me about this, but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote: I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad price even though it only has 12 cells. The new 16 cell display and basic notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is a better deal too. And, the Refresh A Braille from American Printing House for the Blind with 18 cells for $1,695 is a good deal, and a very well made display. Don't get me wrong, I realize these prices are still too high for many people, but at least we are starting to see prices down to where more people may at least have a chance of saving up to buy one. But, at $5,000 for a 40 cell display very few people can afford a Braille display without help from somewhere. - Original Message - From: James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:13 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Hi Mark, I envy you acquiring the braille display especially. I really wish I were incorrect, but I know I am not missing anything or out of date in my understanding that the price of braille displays are just rediculously out of sight in price about 3 to 4 times over and then some. Still being a common man and feeling blessed and lucky to be able to achieve a few thousand in savings at any point in time at best I don't think a braille display for personal use is anywhere in my near future. Maybe I have already said too much, but what it takes to be able to obtain such technology just makes you throw your hands up in frustration. On 4/2/12, David Tanner david.tanner...@gmail.com wrote: And, I bet it is a lot cheaper too. - Original Message - From: Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:35 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Hi all! Has anybody used Abby fine reader express for the mac? I just downloaded a trial version and it was much better than a few years ago. It worked with my old epson perfection scanner and I was able to scan and edit a document. I guess it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of kurzweil but for basic stuff it seemed fine. I am seriously considering a purchase of fine reader. Jim On Apr 2, 2012, at 8:21 PM, David Tanner wrote: It is alive and well... Do you have version 12 patch 4? That is the latest release and there is some support for at least one digital camera in that patch upgrade. As far as Kurzweil 1000 on the Mac; the news isn't good. There is Kurzweil3000 for the Mac, but the folks at Cambian Learning don't think they can make enough profit on us blind folks so they say they will not release a version for Apple because if every
Re: A Question Regarding OCR
Thank you very much for your reply. I'll look in to it further. On 4 Apr 2012, at 12:38 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: There's one called the EyePal solo which is made by the same company but it's a standalone machine. The spec is pretty poor though and it's accessories are very expensive. It's worth avoiding in my view unless you have some extenuating sircomstance. Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-03, at 7:57 PM, Brent Harding wrote: I thought the IPal was a full computer in of itself. I thought it was one of those like the GW Small Talk or OQO with a camera built in. I might be thinking of a different one, but if this was the same one, isn't the computer irrelevant besides transferring saved files? - Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:41 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Can you run the IPal independently of the Mac and if you want to put anything on the mac afterwards what do you do? On 3 Apr 2012, at 10:35 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Mark, it's too bad you hadn't looked into this before you bought the pearl. I teach both eyepal and pearl, and while I like the look of the pearl better, the eyepal does at least as good a job with no duel booting required. It's just awfully tough to justify the price tag of the eyepal after the outlay on the pearl. Best, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
mail questions
Hello group; still adjusting to my new macbook pro. I have two questions about mail. I am running it in the classic mode. when i open a message, it reads me the current character and line position. Is there a way to turn that off? second, in many of my old emails they say loading and status busy. Does anyone know why that is? thanks in advance, max -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
iPhone 4 or 4S
Hi all! Not sure if I can ask this here but I am considering getting an iPhone and was wondering what the advantage of the 4S over the 4 is. Anybody have any ideas or comments for me? Thanks, Jim P.S. Is there a dedicated iPhone list I should put this question to? Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPhone 4 or 4S
Hello Jim, Of course I am sure you know, that on the 4S you have Siri- the personal assistant. You can send texts with your voice, manipulate appointments in your calendar, place calls, and many more things. Siri in conjunction with voiceover have really changed the way I do things on a day to day basis. Hope this helps. Brian On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi all! Not sure if I can ask this here but I am considering getting an iPhone and was wondering what the advantage of the 4S over the 4 is. Anybody have any ideas or comments for me? Thanks, Jim P.S. Is there a dedicated iPhone list I should put this question to? Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPhone 4 or 4S
Hi, at this time, I honestly see no point in getting the iPhone 4 unless you are strapped for cash, and the phone you have now is about to give up the ghost. :). I say this because, if you can hold out to when the new iPhone is released, you can pick up the 4S at a cheaper price or, just get the latest and greatest Apple has to offer. hth Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! Not sure if I can ask this here but I am considering getting an iPhone and was wondering what the advantage of the 4S over the 4 is. Anybody have any ideas or comments for me? Thanks, Jim P.S. Is there a dedicated iPhone list I should put this question to? Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPhone 4 or 4S
Jim, hands down the 4S. the processing power is much better. if your on ATT and are in a city, you can get 4G data speeds. for example, my 4S is faster on ATT then on my home network. i live in DC. R, Pete Sent from my iPhone On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all! Not sure if I can ask this here but I am considering getting an iPhone and was wondering what the advantage of the 4S over the 4 is. Anybody have any ideas or comments for me? Thanks, Jim P.S. Is there a dedicated iPhone list I should put this question to? Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
a braille bug, please confirm.
Sorry for posting to two lists as I guess some may not be on a list so as not to miss anyone who uses a braille display. On many occasions with my braille display connected to my I phone 4S, I can type a combination of contractions as I write in grade two. I find that although I take care to get it right, odd dots creep in or the wrong letter is displayed. Does any one experience this? I know from another Eurobraille user who is not on this list, they experience the same problems and he tells me it is because the information is not always being transferred via bluetooth and at tines Voice Over is sluggish on the new IOS 5. I can type the same in my note taking facility as I have a built in note taker and the performance is greatly improved. If any one has noticed this, please report to Accessibility. Thank you. Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
itunes for windows: getting to know it with my mac apple ID
Dear listers, Having been a satisfied mac user for some 2 years now, I haven't yet used itunes on windows so far. A lot of friends do not have a mac though, but they do have a windows box. When folks get a new iphone, I can help them set it up, but I don't know anything about itunes in windows. I do know enough about windows in general, but not about windows itunes. I would like to get to know the windows itunes experience, so that I can walk someone through it while on skype or facetime. While playing with windows itunes, I would like it to contain the same items as my library on the mac. Can I painlessly copy all items from the mac itunes library, over to windows, by simply copying the entire music/itunes/itunes media folder from the mac, over to windows, by dropping it into the automatically import into itunes folder inside documents and settings? Once all mac itunes library items are also present under windows, is it safe to sync my iphone with windows, without loosing stuff, or is itunes life more complicated than this? Paul. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPhone 4 or 4S
I certainly do. Yesterday, I walked into the apple store and grabbed a 4s, bought it and walked out just because I felt like it. Here are some of the advantages. First off it's speedier. The iPhone 4 with it's A4 processor just is not enough, ino, to hand IOS 5.0 and above. The 4s, is by far faster, especially with apps that before stuttered and hung, such as sleep machine, and even sometimes skype. It's a better over all purchase, and the 4s has the dual A5 chips, so it far more faster and I don't find myself getting frustrated with my phone. I also bought the Juicer case, I forget who it's made by some weird name, but the phone sits inside the case, the sides and back are protected, but the entire front of the phone is open, and the case actually holds a batter with gives you 6 hours of additional batter life which was $80. All said and done for a white iphone 4s 16 gb and the case came to around $850. Let me know if there are any other questions. Oh yeah, don't let me forget serie as well, which is sick, to say the least. Have fun man hope you make the right choice, and if nothing else, the 4s is better simply because it does nto lag and cause voiceover to hang. Cody On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi all! Not sure if I can ask this here but I am considering getting an iPhone and was wondering what the advantage of the 4S over the 4 is. Anybody have any ideas or comments for me? Thanks, Jim P.S. Is there a dedicated iPhone list I should put this question to? Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPhone 4 or 4S
Did you really mean $850? Why so much? There are no unlocked 4S phones, right? Jim On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Cody wrote: I certainly do. Yesterday, I walked into the apple store and grabbed a 4s, bought it and walked out just because I felt like it. Here are some of the advantages. First off it's speedier. The iPhone 4 with it's A4 processor just is not enough, ino, to hand IOS 5.0 and above. The 4s, is by far faster, especially with apps that before stuttered and hung, such as sleep machine, and even sometimes skype. It's a better over all purchase, and the 4s has the dual A5 chips, so it far more faster and I don't find myself getting frustrated with my phone. I also bought the Juicer case, I forget who it's made by some weird name, but the phone sits inside the case, the sides and back are protected, but the entire front of the phone is open, and the case actually holds a batter with gives you 6 hours of additional batter life which was $80. All said and done for a white iphone 4s 16 gb and the case came to around $850. Let me know if there are any other questions. Oh yeah, don't let me forget serie as well, which is sick, to say the least. Have fun man hope you make the right choice, and if nothing else, the 4s is better simply because it does nto lag and cause voiceover to hang. Cody On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi all! Not sure if I can ask this here but I am considering getting an iPhone and was wondering what the advantage of the 4S over the 4 is. Anybody have any ideas or comments for me? Thanks, Jim P.S. Is there a dedicated iPhone list I should put this question to? Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPhone 4 or 4S
Incorrect. You can buy an unlocked iPhone 4S direct from Apple. It's GSM though, not CDMA, but nonetheless unlocked and with no contract. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: Did you really mean $850? Why so much? There are no unlocked 4S phones, right? Jim On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Cody wrote: I certainly do. Yesterday, I walked into the apple store and grabbed a 4s, bought it and walked out just because I felt like it. Here are some of the advantages. First off it's speedier. The iPhone 4 with it's A4 processor just is not enough, ino, to hand IOS 5.0 and above. The 4s, is by far faster, especially with apps that before stuttered and hung, such as sleep machine, and even sometimes skype. It's a better over all purchase, and the 4s has the dual A5 chips, so it far more faster and I don't find myself getting frustrated with my phone. I also bought the Juicer case, I forget who it's made by some weird name, but the phone sits inside the case, the sides and back are protected, but the entire front of the phone is open, and the case actually holds a batter with gives you 6 hours of additional batter life which was $80. All said and done for a white iphone 4s 16 gb and the case came to around $850. Let me know if there are any other questions. Oh yeah, don't let me forget serie as well, which is sick, to say the least. Have fun man hope you make the right choice, and if nothing else, the 4s is better simply because it does nto lag and cause voiceover to hang. Cody On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi all! Not sure if I can ask this here but I am considering getting an iPhone and was wondering what the advantage of the 4S over the 4 is. Anybody have any ideas or comments for me? Thanks, Jim P.S. Is there a dedicated iPhone list I should put this question to? Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPhone 4 or 4S
well the 4s is an open network phone, or a world phone as they call it, so you can use it on vzw, ATT, or sprint. It retails for $649, then I got the $80 case, and the b.s. taxes and what not on top of that i did not get apple care like I did on my mac pro. On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Did you really mean $850? Why so much? There are no unlocked 4S phones, right? Jim On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Cody wrote: I certainly do. Yesterday, I walked into the apple store and grabbed a 4s, bought it and walked out just because I felt like it. Here are some of the advantages. First off it's speedier. The iPhone 4 with it's A4 processor just is not enough, ino, to hand IOS 5.0 and above. The 4s, is by far faster, especially with apps that before stuttered and hung, such as sleep machine, and even sometimes skype. It's a better over all purchase, and the 4s has the dual A5 chips, so it far more faster and I don't find myself getting frustrated with my phone. I also bought the Juicer case, I forget who it's made by some weird name, but the phone sits inside the case, the sides and back are protected, but the entire front of the phone is open, and the case actually holds a batter with gives you 6 hours of additional batter life which was $80. All said and done for a white iphone 4s 16 gb and the case came to around $850. Let me know if there are any other questions. Oh yeah, don't let me forget serie as well, which is sick, to say the least. Have fun man hope you make the right choice, and if nothing else, the 4s is better simply because it does nto lag and cause voiceover to hang. Cody On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi all! Not sure if I can ask this here but I am considering getting an iPhone and was wondering what the advantage of the 4S over the 4 is. Anybody have any ideas or comments for me? Thanks, Jim P.S. Is there a dedicated iPhone list I should put this question to? Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Devanagari Keyboard
Hi, Does anyone know where to find a reference to which keys output which devanagari characters? I have some of them down, but some of them are hard to hear. For instance, there are four t's: t, retroflex t, and an aspirated version of both of these. I can't tell, just by hearing the character, which type of t it is. Same goes for d, and even n. Does anyone have any idea how to figure this out? Thanks, Brandon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPhone 4 or 4S
so then you don't have a contract? I was checking with Sprint and they have good prices with a two year contract. Somebody told me you couldn't buy the phone without having a contract from somebody. Jim On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Cody wrote: well the 4s is an open network phone, or a world phone as they call it, so you can use it on vzw, ATT, or sprint. It retails for $649, then I got the $80 case, and the b.s. taxes and what not on top of that i did not get apple care like I did on my mac pro. On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Did you really mean $850? Why so much? There are no unlocked 4S phones, right? Jim On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Cody wrote: I certainly do. Yesterday, I walked into the apple store and grabbed a 4s, bought it and walked out just because I felt like it. Here are some of the advantages. First off it's speedier. The iPhone 4 with it's A4 processor just is not enough, ino, to hand IOS 5.0 and above. The 4s, is by far faster, especially with apps that before stuttered and hung, such as sleep machine, and even sometimes skype. It's a better over all purchase, and the 4s has the dual A5 chips, so it far more faster and I don't find myself getting frustrated with my phone. I also bought the Juicer case, I forget who it's made by some weird name, but the phone sits inside the case, the sides and back are protected, but the entire front of the phone is open, and the case actually holds a batter with gives you 6 hours of additional batter life which was $80. All said and done for a white iphone 4s 16 gb and the case came to around $850. Let me know if there are any other questions. Oh yeah, don't let me forget serie as well, which is sick, to say the least. Have fun man hope you make the right choice, and if nothing else, the 4s is better simply because it does nto lag and cause voiceover to hang. Cody On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi all! Not sure if I can ask this here but I am considering getting an iPhone and was wondering what the advantage of the 4S over the 4 is. Anybody have any ideas or comments for me? Thanks, Jim P.S. Is there a dedicated iPhone list I should put this question to? Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPhone 4 or 4S
Cool I didn't know that. Jim On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: Incorrect. You can buy an unlocked iPhone 4S direct from Apple. It's GSM though, not CDMA, but nonetheless unlocked and with no contract. -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com wrote: Did you really mean $850? Why so much? There are no unlocked 4S phones, right? Jim On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Cody wrote: I certainly do. Yesterday, I walked into the apple store and grabbed a 4s, bought it and walked out just because I felt like it. Here are some of the advantages. First off it's speedier. The iPhone 4 with it's A4 processor just is not enough, ino, to hand IOS 5.0 and above. The 4s, is by far faster, especially with apps that before stuttered and hung, such as sleep machine, and even sometimes skype. It's a better over all purchase, and the 4s has the dual A5 chips, so it far more faster and I don't find myself getting frustrated with my phone. I also bought the Juicer case, I forget who it's made by some weird name, but the phone sits inside the case, the sides and back are protected, but the entire front of the phone is open, and the case actually holds a batter with gives you 6 hours of additional batter life which was $80. All said and done for a white iphone 4s 16 gb and the case came to around $850. Let me know if there are any other questions. Oh yeah, don't let me forget serie as well, which is sick, to say the least. Have fun man hope you make the right choice, and if nothing else, the 4s is better simply because it does nto lag and cause voiceover to hang. Cody On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi all! Not sure if I can ask this here but I am considering getting an iPhone and was wondering what the advantage of the 4S over the 4 is. Anybody have any ideas or comments for me? Thanks, Jim P.S. Is there a dedicated iPhone list I should put this question to? Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: itunes for windows: getting to know it with my mac apple ID
You can use Itumes on Windows but I personally hate it with jaws. Just sync your iphone in Itunes and everything should be copied over. Just remember to use f6 to explore the sources as I think it's a tree. I only use Itunes on a mac so am not very familiar. Kawal. On 4 Apr 2012, at 04:08 PM, Paul Erkens paul.erk...@gmail.com wrote: Dear listers, Having been a satisfied mac user for some 2 years now, I haven't yet used itunes on windows so far. A lot of friends do not have a mac though, but they do have a windows box. When folks get a new iphone, I can help them set it up, but I don't know anything about itunes in windows. I do know enough about windows in general, but not about windows itunes. I would like to get to know the windows itunes experience, so that I can walk someone through it while on skype or facetime. While playing with windows itunes, I would like it to contain the same items as my library on the mac. Can I painlessly copy all items from the mac itunes library, over to windows, by simply copying the entire music/itunes/itunes media folder from the mac, over to windows, by dropping it into the automatically import into itunes folder inside documents and settings? Once all mac itunes library items are also present under windows, is it safe to sync my iphone with windows, without loosing stuff, or is itunes life more complicated than this? Paul. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille displays
I had to buy a new Braille display when I got my Mac Mini, because I couldn't use my Braille Lite 40. I much prefer 40-cell displays, and as far as I'm aware, the Focus 40 Blue is the least expensive of those by far. Most run around at least $5000 US. Teresa The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:42 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Well, window-eyes actually supports a lot more than apple does, but apple for sure supports all of the modern ones. Except that they are footdragging on the brialliant BI displays. Most of the ones they're missing are legacy serial and parallel devices. Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-04, at 6:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on an iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display that it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to carry the display around. To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, when I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the other screen readers could say that their program could support that many displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me about this, but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote: I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad price even though it only has 12 cells. The new 16 cell display and basic notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is a better deal too. And, the Refresh A Braille from American Printing House for the Blind with 18 cells for $1,695 is a good deal, and a very well made display. Don't get me wrong, I realize these prices are still too high for many people, but at least we are starting to see prices down to where more people may at least have a chance of saving up to buy one. But, at $5,000 for a 40 cell display very few people can afford a Braille display without help from somewhere. - Original Message - From: James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:13 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Hi Mark, I envy you acquiring the braille display especially. I really wish I were incorrect, but I know I am not missing anything or out of date in my understanding that the price of braille displays are just rediculously out of sight in price about 3 to 4 times over and then some. Still being a common man and feeling blessed and lucky to be able to achieve a few thousand in savings at any point in time at best I don't think a braille display for personal use is anywhere in my near future. Maybe I have already said too much, but what it takes to be able to obtain such technology just makes you throw your hands up in frustration. On 4/2/12, David Tanner david.tanner...@gmail.com wrote: And, I bet it is a lot cheaper too. - Original Message - From: Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:35 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Hi all! Has anybody used Abby fine reader express for the mac? I just downloaded a trial version and it was much better than a few years ago. It worked with my old epson perfection scanner and I was able to scan and edit a document. I guess it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of kurzweil but for basic stuff it seemed fine. I am seriously considering a purchase of fine reader. Jim On Apr 2, 2012, at 8:21 PM, David Tanner wrote: It is alive and well... Do you have
Re: Braille displays
Oh, by the way, I don't find the focus 40 Blue cumbersome at all to carry around. It's actually lighter than my Braille Lite 40. Teresa Man is matter's ability to contemplate itself.--Albert Einstein On Apr 4, 2012, at 3:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on an iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display that it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to carry the display around. To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, when I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the other screen readers could say that their program could support that many displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me about this, but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote: I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad price even though it only has 12 cells. The new 16 cell display and basic notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is a better deal too. And, the Refresh A Braille from American Printing House for the Blind with 18 cells for $1,695 is a good deal, and a very well made display. Don't get me wrong, I realize these prices are still too high for many people, but at least we are starting to see prices down to where more people may at least have a chance of saving up to buy one. But, at $5,000 for a 40 cell display very few people can afford a Braille display without help from somewhere. - Original Message - From: James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:13 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Hi Mark, I envy you acquiring the braille display especially. I really wish I were incorrect, but I know I am not missing anything or out of date in my understanding that the price of braille displays are just rediculously out of sight in price about 3 to 4 times over and then some. Still being a common man and feeling blessed and lucky to be able to achieve a few thousand in savings at any point in time at best I don't think a braille display for personal use is anywhere in my near future. Maybe I have already said too much, but what it takes to be able to obtain such technology just makes you throw your hands up in frustration. On 4/2/12, David Tanner david.tanner...@gmail.com wrote: And, I bet it is a lot cheaper too. - Original Message - From: Jim Gatteys jgatt...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 9:35 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Hi all! Has anybody used Abby fine reader express for the mac? I just downloaded a trial version and it was much better than a few years ago. It worked with my old epson perfection scanner and I was able to scan and edit a document. I guess it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of kurzweil but for basic stuff it seemed fine. I am seriously considering a purchase of fine reader. Jim On Apr 2, 2012, at 8:21 PM, David Tanner wrote: It is alive and well... Do you have version 12 patch 4? That is the latest release and there is some support for at least one digital camera in that patch upgrade. As far as Kurzweil 1000 on the Mac; the news isn't good. There is Kurzweil3000 for the Mac, but the folks at Cambian Learning don't think they can make enough profit on us blind folks so they say they will not release a version for Apple because if every blind person baught a copy of Kurzweil1000 for Mac they still couldn't make enough profit to make it worth it for them to do that. - Original Message - From: Brent Harding br...@hostany.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 8:04 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Any hope for those of us Kurzweil users? I could live with my old Epson
Re: Braille displays
I would like to jump in for some opinions from those who have purchased a Braille Pen, RefreshaBraille or the Perkins nottetaker: I want a Braille display, solely for purposes of reading iBooks and Read to Go Books on my iPhone. I have always preferred Braille, and miss it terribly, though I am thrilled to be able to download a newspaper and listen as I commute. As far as I am concerned, I just want something simple and straightforward for this purpose. Please feel free to write me off-line about this, and if anyone has a link for information comparing the less expensive, lightest-weight, portable Braille displays, I would appreciate getting it. Thanks. (I don't care much about input on the display, just output.) Christine On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I had to buy a new Braille display when I got my Mac Mini, because I couldn't use my Braille Lite 40. I much prefer 40-cell displays, and as far as I'm aware, the Focus 40 Blue is the least expensive of those by far. Most run around at least $5000 US. Teresa The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:42 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Well, window-eyes actually supports a lot more than apple does, but apple for sure supports all of the modern ones. Except that they are footdragging on the brialliant BI displays. Most of the ones they're missing are legacy serial and parallel devices. Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-04, at 6:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on an iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display that it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to carry the display around. To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, when I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the other screen readers could say that their program could support that many displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me about this, but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote: I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad price even though it only has 12 cells. The new 16 cell display and basic notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is a better deal too. And, the Refresh A Braille from American Printing House for the Blind with 18 cells for $1,695 is a good deal, and a very well made display. Don't get me wrong, I realize these prices are still too high for many people, but at least we are starting to see prices down to where more people may at least have a chance of saving up to buy one. But, at $5,000 for a 40 cell display very few people can afford a Braille display without help from somewhere. - Original Message - From: James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:13 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Hi Mark, I envy you acquiring the braille display especially. I really wish I were incorrect, but I know I am not missing anything or out of date in my understanding that the price of braille displays are just rediculously out of sight in price about 3 to 4 times over and then some. Still being a common man and feeling blessed and lucky to be able to achieve a few thousand in savings at any point in time at best I don't think a braille display for personal use is anywhere in my near future. Maybe I have already said too much, but what it takes to be able to obtain such technology just makes you throw your hands
moving mail colomns
Hey all, can you remind me how to rearrange classic mail columns. I'm trying out the classic layout again, because it allows me to scan through subjects so quickly. Thank you, Traci Sent by Macbook Air Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: apple accessability telephone
Yes, it's an excellent service. I've used it twice as well and the people responding know there stuff. It's a great thing that Apple has added this resource. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Apr 4, 2012, at 7:14 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi Guys. I have called this number twice, and it is wonderful. They do ask if you're running accessibility options because those who are not should not be calling that number. But for us, it is great. You don't get transferred, and you go to where you would have been in first place before. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 3, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, It's 1-877-2043930 Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Walter Harper walterharp...@gmail.com wrote: Hello listers, What is the apple accessibility telephone number -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
command-shift-a
Hi all! I'm having this weird problem which has just started within the past week or so. When I press command-shift-a in finder to open the applications window, my finder gives me a busy error and I have to force quit the finder. Any ideas or remedies? Thanks, Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iPhone 4 or 4S
That is wrong, you can buy any iphone from the apple store, but you're not going to get the discounted price, which is why it costed me so much, but I think I have deserved it. For me, it was as simple as taking out my new phone and dialing *228 and boom my new iphone is activated. Easy as pie. With GSM all you need to do is just swap cim cards and you're all set. On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:27 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: so then you don't have a contract? I was checking with Sprint and they have good prices with a two year contract. Somebody told me you couldn't buy the phone without having a contract from somebody. Jim On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:23 AM, Cody wrote: well the 4s is an open network phone, or a world phone as they call it, so you can use it on vzw, ATT, or sprint. It retails for $649, then I got the $80 case, and the b.s. taxes and what not on top of that i did not get apple care like I did on my mac pro. On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Did you really mean $850? Why so much? There are no unlocked 4S phones, right? Jim On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Cody wrote: I certainly do. Yesterday, I walked into the apple store and grabbed a 4s, bought it and walked out just because I felt like it. Here are some of the advantages. First off it's speedier. The iPhone 4 with it's A4 processor just is not enough, ino, to hand IOS 5.0 and above. The 4s, is by far faster, especially with apps that before stuttered and hung, such as sleep machine, and even sometimes skype. It's a better over all purchase, and the 4s has the dual A5 chips, so it far more faster and I don't find myself getting frustrated with my phone. I also bought the Juicer case, I forget who it's made by some weird name, but the phone sits inside the case, the sides and back are protected, but the entire front of the phone is open, and the case actually holds a batter with gives you 6 hours of additional batter life which was $80. All said and done for a white iphone 4s 16 gb and the case came to around $850. Let me know if there are any other questions. Oh yeah, don't let me forget serie as well, which is sick, to say the least. Have fun man hope you make the right choice, and if nothing else, the 4s is better simply because it does nto lag and cause voiceover to hang. Cody On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi all! Not sure if I can ask this here but I am considering getting an iPhone and was wondering what the advantage of the 4S over the 4 is. Anybody have any ideas or comments for me? Thanks, Jim P.S. Is there a dedicated iPhone list I should put this question to? Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: Braille displays
Hello Christine, By what means are you downloading your newspapers? Mark On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:03 AM, Christine Grassman wrote: I would like to jump in for some opinions from those who have purchased a Braille Pen, RefreshaBraille or the Perkins nottetaker: I want a Braille display, solely for purposes of reading iBooks and Read to Go Books on my iPhone. I have always preferred Braille, and miss it terribly, though I am thrilled to be able to download a newspaper and listen as I commute. As far as I am concerned, I just want something simple and straightforward for this purpose. Please feel free to write me off-line about this, and if anyone has a link for information comparing the less expensive, lightest-weight, portable Braille displays, I would appreciate getting it. Thanks. (I don't care much about input on the display, just output.) Christine On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I had to buy a new Braille display when I got my Mac Mini, because I couldn't use my Braille Lite 40. I much prefer 40-cell displays, and as far as I'm aware, the Focus 40 Blue is the least expensive of those by far. Most run around at least $5000 US. Teresa The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:42 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Well, window-eyes actually supports a lot more than apple does, but apple for sure supports all of the modern ones. Except that they are footdragging on the brialliant BI displays. Most of the ones they're missing are legacy serial and parallel devices. Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-04, at 6:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on an iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display that it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to carry the display around. To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, when I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the other screen readers could say that their program could support that many displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me about this, but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote: I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad price even though it only has 12 cells. The new 16 cell display and basic notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is a better deal too. And, the Refresh A Braille from American Printing House for the Blind with 18 cells for $1,695 is a good deal, and a very well made display. Don't get me wrong, I realize these prices are still too high for many people, but at least we are starting to see prices down to where more people may at least have a chance of saving up to buy one. But, at $5,000 for a 40 cell display very few people can afford a Braille display without help from somewhere. - Original Message - From: James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:13 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Hi Mark, I envy you acquiring the braille display especially. I really wish I were incorrect, but I know I am not missing anything or out of date in my understanding that the price of braille displays are just rediculously out of sight in price about 3 to 4 times over and then some. Still being a common man and feeling blessed and lucky to be able to achieve a few thousand in savings at any point in time at best I don't think a braille display for personal use is anywhere
Re: command-shift-a
Hello Jim, The first thing that comes to mind is that you repair permissions. You can find this option in the utilities folder. Open Utilities by using key-combo Command+Shift+U. Mark On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi all! I'm having this weird problem which has just started within the past week or so. When I press command-shift-a in finder to open the applications window, my finder gives me a busy error and I have to force quit the finder. Any ideas or remedies? Thanks, Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Material for showing Apple accessibility solutions
Can you just demo using voiceover on a phone? Sometimes a real demo is worth far more than a lot of slides. Especially when you can emphasize that it's based into every iOS device so anyone can use it without additional cost. CB On 4/4/12 1:01 AM, Daniela Rubio wrote: Hello all: I have just received an invitation from a very important an mexican institution to give a talk on Apple's accessibility solutions. I know what I would like to say, but I am missing support materials, like keynotes, videos, etc which can help to illustrate my talk. The conference will be held in Mexico on may 3 and I have not support from a sighted person who can help me to prepare keynote that looks well. So, mi question is that if you know something or have any materials about this topic that could be of help? Thank you very much for your help! SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com http://www.macneticus.blogspot.com/ Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com http://macneticos.libsyn.com/instalando-ios-5 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
question about customizing verbosity and its explanation in getting started guide
Hi all, I was looking in chapter 9 of VO getting started about customizing verbosity and have a question. After the list of options one can change in speech verbosity there is a very interesting phrase that I cannot make sense of: (Incidentally copy function does not work in that help interface unfortunately). To change the order in which VoiceOver provides the information, choose Customize from the Verbosity pop-up menu, and then follow the instructions in the pop up. Or you can navigate to Description and type the elements (Status, Type, or Name) you want to hear in the order you want to hear them. I copied this text by using the cool vo command vo +shift +c. Nice workaround when selecting on web pages does not work well. But back to the guide itself. I cannot find any such popup menu and customizable options. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Best regards, Ioana Gandrabur Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: command-shift-a
Hey Mark! I've done that both from Utilities and from the command-r at startup to get disk utility from there. Its weird and I see no reason why it should be happening. Jim On Apr 4, 2012, at 1:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Jim, The first thing that comes to mind is that you repair permissions. You can find this option in the utilities folder. Open Utilities by using key-combo Command+Shift+U. Mark On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi all! I'm having this weird problem which has just started within the past week or so. When I press command-shift-a in finder to open the applications window, my finder gives me a busy error and I have to force quit the finder. Any ideas or remedies? Thanks, Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
workaround when selecting in safari or other pas is difficult
Hi all, I just found a command I had overlooked that can help with the tricky and unreliable selecting on webpages. If stuck it is always possible to copy last spoken phrase with VO +shift +c. Thought I would remind some others about this feature since it had slipped my attention. Best, Ioana Please check out my cd on www.ioanagandrabur.com on iTunes and most online stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: command-shift-a
Jim, just a thought, have you been creating shortcuts in System Preferences? If so, it's possible that you've used Cmd-Shift-a for something else which will have disabled this command. I know it sounds unlikely, but someone I know did this to Cmd-c. Cheers, Anne On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi all! I'm having this weird problem which has just started within the past week or so. When I press command-shift-a in finder to open the applications window, my finder gives me a busy error and I have to force quit the finder. Any ideas or remedies? Thanks, Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
command-shift commands
Hello all: This message thred reminded me to ask. How do you find the shortcut keys assigned to applications? Thanks much! From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 3:14 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: command-shift-a Jim, just a thought, have you been creating shortcuts in System Preferences? If so, it's possible that you've used Cmd-Shift-a for something else which will have disabled this command. I know it sounds unlikely, but someone I know did this to Cmd-c. Cheers, Anne On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi all! I'm having this weird problem which has just started within the past week or so. When I press command-shift-a in finder to open the applications window, my finder gives me a busy error and I have to force quit the finder. Any ideas or remedies? Thanks, Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: command-shift-a
Hi Anne! I didn't think I had and when I checked just now there were no keystrokes defined. I just get a finder busy error and my fan spins up and finder just sits there and when I force quit the fan keeps going. Then if I restart the computer, I get one of two messages, TISwitcher has no windows or the other one is folder dispatcher has no windows. Its really odd. Jim On Apr 4, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Jim, just a thought, have you been creating shortcuts in System Preferences? If so, it's possible that you've used Cmd-Shift-a for something else which will have disabled this command. I know it sounds unlikely, but someone I know did this to Cmd-c. Cheers, Anne On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi all! I'm having this weird problem which has just started within the past week or so. When I press command-shift-a in finder to open the applications window, my finder gives me a busy error and I have to force quit the finder. Any ideas or remedies? Thanks, Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille displays
You are right, the Refresh A Braille is a very nice display. I haven't seen the new one from Perkins Products. The Braille Pen is the same display as the old Easy Link 12, but the cells do seem to be better. My old EL12 still works but there a number of dots that barely come up even though I have always kept it clean. I think those cells must have been pretty cheaply made cells. The new ones may be better. The Braille certainly look a lot better than those on the EL12 even when it was new. - Original Message - From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 6:05 PM Subject: Re: Braille displays I have the Refreshabraille and really like it. I would not mind having something like 40, but you cannot beat the 18 cells for travel and at $1,700 it is a good deal. The build quality is certainly there and I gather there are some displays for less, but may not be worth consideration. On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: I would like to jump in for some opinions from those who have purchased a Braille Pen, RefreshaBraille or the Perkins nottetaker: I want a Braille display, solely for purposes of reading iBooks and Read to Go Books on my iPhone. I have always preferred Braille, and miss it terribly, though I am thrilled to be able to download a newspaper and listen as I commute. As far as I am concerned, I just want something simple and straightforward for this purpose. Please feel free to write me off-line about this, and if anyone has a link for information comparing the less expensive, lightest-weight, portable Braille displays, I would appreciate getting it. Thanks. (I don't care much about input on the display, just output.) Christine On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I had to buy a new Braille display when I got my Mac Mini, because I couldn't use my Braille Lite 40. I much prefer 40-cell displays, and as far as I'm aware, the Focus 40 Blue is the least expensive of those by far. Most run around at least $5000 US. Teresa The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:42 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Well, window-eyes actually supports a lot more than apple does, but apple for sure supports all of the modern ones. Except that they are footdragging on the brialliant BI displays. Most of the ones they're missing are legacy serial and parallel devices. Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-04, at 6:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on an iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display that it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to carry the display around. To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, when I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the other screen readers could say that their program could support that many displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me about this, but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote: I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad price even though it only has 12 cells. The new 16 cell display and basic notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is a better deal too. And, the Refresh A Braille from American Printing House for the Blind with 18 cells for $1,695 is a good deal, and a very well made display. Don't get me wrong, I realize these prices are still too high for many people, but at least we are starting to see prices down to where more people may at least have a
Re: A Question Regarding OCR
Oh, that's the one I thought I heard of on Accessible World or somewhere, but didn't think one would need a stand-alone device like that. - Original Message - From: erik burggraaf To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 6:38 AM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR There's one called the EyePal solo which is made by the same company but it's a standalone machine. The spec is pretty poor though and it's accessories are very expensive. It's worth avoiding in my view unless you have some extenuating sircomstance. Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-03, at 7:57 PM, Brent Harding wrote: I thought the IPal was a full computer in of itself. I thought it was one of those like the GW Small Talk or OQO with a camera built in. I might be thinking of a different one, but if this was the same one, isn't the computer irrelevant besides transferring saved files? - Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:41 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Can you run the IPal independently of the Mac and if you want to put anything on the mac afterwards what do you do? On 3 Apr 2012, at 10:35 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Mark, it's too bad you hadn't looked into this before you bought the pearl. I teach both eyepal and pearl, and while I like the look of the pearl better, the eyepal does at least as good a job with no duel booting required. It's just awfully tough to justify the price tag of the eyepal after the outlay on the pearl. Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-03, at 5:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Scott, The Pearl with OpenBook is the most amazing thing I have ever seen (no pun intended). I will use BootCamp on my Mac, then. Thank you, Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Erichsen Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 3:41 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: A Question Regarding OCR Hi Mark, The Pearl will only work with OpenBOok 9.0 and will only work under windows. The two options that work with the Mac are the hoverCam with DocuScan Plus from Serotek and the EyePal. Personally I like the Pearl and OpenBOok as the accuracy is fantastic from everything I've scanned. Cheers. Scott -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Tuesday, 3 April 2012 8:31 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: A Question Regarding OCR Hello Everyone, In addition to being the proud owner of a Focus 40 Blue, I also obtained Freedom Scientific's Pearl camera along with OpenBook 9.0. To put it simply, I am stunned with the OCR performance in both OpenBook and the accuracy of the camera along with the dazzling speed of the image acquisition experience. I think what blows my mind the most is the motion detection that allows one to turn pages and when the new page is in view of the camera, it automatically takes a photo and begins the OCR process. I swear it feels as though I have a sighted person reading for me. I could go on and on but ... I realize that the pearl has been out for quite some time and am wondering if anyone knows if it will work with anything on the Mac. I know one thing for sure, with the Pearl in my toolbox, I have put my scanner away for good. Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: A Question Regarding OCR
It is available as a stand alone, but there is also a computer based version for both Windows and Apple. - Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:09 AM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Thank you very much for your reply. I'll look in to it further. On 4 Apr 2012, at 12:38 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: There's one called the EyePal solo which is made by the same company but it's a standalone machine. The spec is pretty poor though and it's accessories are very expensive. It's worth avoiding in my view unless you have some extenuating sircomstance. Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-03, at 7:57 PM, Brent Harding wrote: I thought the IPal was a full computer in of itself. I thought it was one of those like the GW Small Talk or OQO with a camera built in. I might be thinking of a different one, but if this was the same one, isn't the computer irrelevant besides transferring saved files? - Original Message - From: Kawal Gucukoglu To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 4:41 PM Subject: Re: A Question Regarding OCR Can you run the IPal independently of the Mac and if you want to put anything on the mac afterwards what do you do? On 3 Apr 2012, at 10:35 PM, erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Mark, it's too bad you hadn't looked into this before you bought the pearl. I teach both eyepal and pearl, and while I like the look of the pearl better, the eyepal does at least as good a job with no duel booting required. It's just awfully tough to justify the price tag of the eyepal after the outlay on the pearl. Best, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille displays
Not to sound mean or anything, *but* :) I remember the days when I carried a ten-pound laptop around, not to mention the earlier days when I carried a tape-recorder and two Braille volumes. Should I mention the steam-powered computer with the coal hopper? (grins) Anyway, I suppose that it depends on what is important to each person. For me, 40-cell displays are very important, so I don't mind the 1-pound extra weight. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: I have the Refreshabraille and really like it. I would not mind having something like 40, but you cannot beat the 18 cells for travel and at $1,700 it is a good deal. The build quality is certainly there and I gather there are some displays for less, but may not be worth consideration. On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: I would like to jump in for some opinions from those who have purchased a Braille Pen, RefreshaBraille or the Perkins nottetaker: I want a Braille display, solely for purposes of reading iBooks and Read to Go Books on my iPhone. I have always preferred Braille, and miss it terribly, though I am thrilled to be able to download a newspaper and listen as I commute. As far as I am concerned, I just want something simple and straightforward for this purpose. Please feel free to write me off-line about this, and if anyone has a link for information comparing the less expensive, lightest-weight, portable Braille displays, I would appreciate getting it. Thanks. (I don't care much about input on the display, just output.) Christine On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I had to buy a new Braille display when I got my Mac Mini, because I couldn't use my Braille Lite 40. I much prefer 40-cell displays, and as far as I'm aware, the Focus 40 Blue is the least expensive of those by far. Most run around at least $5000 US. Teresa The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:42 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Well, window-eyes actually supports a lot more than apple does, but apple for sure supports all of the modern ones. Except that they are footdragging on the brialliant BI displays. Most of the ones they're missing are legacy serial and parallel devices. Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-04, at 6:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on an iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display that it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to carry the display around. To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, when I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the other screen readers could say that their program could support that many displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me about this, but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote: I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad price even though it only has 12 cells. The new 16 cell display and basic notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is a better deal too. And, the Refresh A Braille from American Printing House for the Blind with 18 cells for $1,695 is a good deal, and a very well made display. Don't get me wrong, I realize these prices are still too high for many people, but at least we are starting to see prices down to where more people may at least have a chance of saving up to buy one. But, at $5,000 for a 40 cell display very few
Re: Braille displays
Does anyone know for sure if the refreshabraille is currently working with IOS 5.1? I remember reading about some displays not currently working under 5.1 and can't remember which ones they were. On 4/4/12, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Not to sound mean or anything, *but* :) I remember the days when I carried a ten-pound laptop around, not to mention the earlier days when I carried a tape-recorder and two Braille volumes. Should I mention the steam-powered computer with the coal hopper? (grins) Anyway, I suppose that it depends on what is important to each person. For me, 40-cell displays are very important, so I don't mind the 1-pound extra weight. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: I have the Refreshabraille and really like it. I would not mind having something like 40, but you cannot beat the 18 cells for travel and at $1,700 it is a good deal. The build quality is certainly there and I gather there are some displays for less, but may not be worth consideration. On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: I would like to jump in for some opinions from those who have purchased a Braille Pen, RefreshaBraille or the Perkins nottetaker: I want a Braille display, solely for purposes of reading iBooks and Read to Go Books on my iPhone. I have always preferred Braille, and miss it terribly, though I am thrilled to be able to download a newspaper and listen as I commute. As far as I am concerned, I just want something simple and straightforward for this purpose. Please feel free to write me off-line about this, and if anyone has a link for information comparing the less expensive, lightest-weight, portable Braille displays, I would appreciate getting it. Thanks. (I don't care much about input on the display, just output.) Christine On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I had to buy a new Braille display when I got my Mac Mini, because I couldn't use my Braille Lite 40. I much prefer 40-cell displays, and as far as I'm aware, the Focus 40 Blue is the least expensive of those by far. Most run around at least $5000 US. Teresa The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:42 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Well, window-eyes actually supports a lot more than apple does, but apple for sure supports all of the modern ones. Except that they are footdragging on the brialliant BI displays. Most of the ones they're missing are legacy serial and parallel devices. Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-04, at 6:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on an iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display that it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to carry the display around. To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, when I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the other screen readers could say that their program could support that many displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me about this, but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote: I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad price even though it only has 12 cells. The new 16 cell display and basic notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is a better deal too. And, the Refresh A Braille from American Printing House for the Blind with 18 cells for $1,695 is a good deal, and a very well made display. Don't get me wrong, I realize these prices are still
Re: accessible iMovie?
Hello Chris. Where do I get Quicktime Pro? I am running Lion and of course have the Quicktime Player. Thanks so much. On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I didn't see an answer to this question. Did you mean .wmv since you are talking about video? .wma is an audio format. That said, assuming you meant .wmv, you can convert after the fact using QuickTime Pro which lets you open a video file and SaveAs .wmv format. Hope this helps. CB On 3/7/12 12:45 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: Hello. I need to make a video in the .wav or .wma format. Can I use IMovie or Quicktime to make the conversion? Thanks so much. On Mar 7, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! It is accessible in its version 11, It works great! SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 07/03/2012, a las 11:36, Eric Oyen escribió: I am thinking of getting back into using iMovie. I have the older program (version '09) and the scroll areas are not accessible nor are some of the buttons. does anyone have any updated information about iMovie and using voiceover? -eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
High contrast on and off?
Greetings! So in Universal Access is says that in order to access the white on black or black on white I should press command, option, control, and 8. This doesn't do anything though. Am I just completely missing something here? I am confused. Thanks yall Mike Malarsie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille displays
TThe good news is that it is working very well with 5.1. I haven't used it for 2 hours. (smile). - Original Message - From: James Mannion mannion...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:57 PM Subject: Re: Braille displays Does anyone know for sure if the refreshabraille is currently working with IOS 5.1? I remember reading about some displays not currently working under 5.1 and can't remember which ones they were. On 4/4/12, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Not to sound mean or anything, *but* :) I remember the days when I carried a ten-pound laptop around, not to mention the earlier days when I carried a tape-recorder and two Braille volumes. Should I mention the steam-powered computer with the coal hopper? (grins) Anyway, I suppose that it depends on what is important to each person. For me, 40-cell displays are very important, so I don't mind the 1-pound extra weight. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: I have the Refreshabraille and really like it. I would not mind having something like 40, but you cannot beat the 18 cells for travel and at $1,700 it is a good deal. The build quality is certainly there and I gather there are some displays for less, but may not be worth consideration. On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: I would like to jump in for some opinions from those who have purchased a Braille Pen, RefreshaBraille or the Perkins nottetaker: I want a Braille display, solely for purposes of reading iBooks and Read to Go Books on my iPhone. I have always preferred Braille, and miss it terribly, though I am thrilled to be able to download a newspaper and listen as I commute. As far as I am concerned, I just want something simple and straightforward for this purpose. Please feel free to write me off-line about this, and if anyone has a link for information comparing the less expensive, lightest-weight, portable Braille displays, I would appreciate getting it. Thanks. (I don't care much about input on the display, just output.) Christine On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I had to buy a new Braille display when I got my Mac Mini, because I couldn't use my Braille Lite 40. I much prefer 40-cell displays, and as far as I'm aware, the Focus 40 Blue is the least expensive of those by far. Most run around at least $5000 US. Teresa The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:42 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Well, window-eyes actually supports a lot more than apple does, but apple for sure supports all of the modern ones. Except that they are footdragging on the brialliant BI displays. Most of the ones they're missing are legacy serial and parallel devices. Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-04, at 6:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on an iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display that it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to carry the display around. To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, when I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the other screen readers could say that their program could support that many displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me about this, but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote: I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad price even though it only has 12 cells. The new 16 cell display and basic notetaker from Perkins Products for
Re: Braille displays
That was the 12 pound laptop for me and a 8 pound Alva display that was barely portable because it could run on a built-in battery. Oh, the Versa Braille wasn't a lightweight either. - Original Message - From: Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:49 PM Subject: Re: Braille displays Not to sound mean or anything, *but* :) I remember the days when I carried a ten-pound laptop around, not to mention the earlier days when I carried a tape-recorder and two Braille volumes. Should I mention the steam-powered computer with the coal hopper? (grins) Anyway, I suppose that it depends on what is important to each person. For me, 40-cell displays are very important, so I don't mind the 1-pound extra weight. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: I have the Refreshabraille and really like it. I would not mind having something like 40, but you cannot beat the 18 cells for travel and at $1,700 it is a good deal. The build quality is certainly there and I gather there are some displays for less, but may not be worth consideration. On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: I would like to jump in for some opinions from those who have purchased a Braille Pen, RefreshaBraille or the Perkins nottetaker: I want a Braille display, solely for purposes of reading iBooks and Read to Go Books on my iPhone. I have always preferred Braille, and miss it terribly, though I am thrilled to be able to download a newspaper and listen as I commute. As far as I am concerned, I just want something simple and straightforward for this purpose. Please feel free to write me off-line about this, and if anyone has a link for information comparing the less expensive, lightest-weight, portable Braille displays, I would appreciate getting it. Thanks. (I don't care much about input on the display, just output.) Christine On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I had to buy a new Braille display when I got my Mac Mini, because I couldn't use my Braille Lite 40. I much prefer 40-cell displays, and as far as I'm aware, the Focus 40 Blue is the least expensive of those by far. Most run around at least $5000 US. Teresa The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:42 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Well, window-eyes actually supports a lot more than apple does, but apple for sure supports all of the modern ones. Except that they are footdragging on the brialliant BI displays. Most of the ones they're missing are legacy serial and parallel devices. Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-04, at 6:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on an iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display that it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to carry the display around. To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, when I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the other screen readers could say that their program could support that many displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me about this, but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote: I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad price even though it only has 12 cells. The new 16 cell display and basic notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is a better deal too. And, the Refresh A Braille from American Printing House for the Blind with 18 cells for $1,695 is a
Re: accessible iMovie?
hello; i was playing around with iMovie earlier. It confused me, but at least everything seamed to be labelled which was a big improvement over the last time i tried it. don't want to get real fancy just be able to record a video and then trim off the ends. please keep me in the discussion. thanks, max On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:08 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: Hello Chris. Where do I get Quicktime Pro? I am running Lion and of course have the Quicktime Player. Thanks so much. On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I didn't see an answer to this question. Did you mean .wmv since you are talking about video? .wma is an audio format. That said, assuming you meant .wmv, you can convert after the fact using QuickTime Pro which lets you open a video file and SaveAs .wmv format. Hope this helps. CB On 3/7/12 12:45 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: Hello. I need to make a video in the .wav or .wma format. Can I use IMovie or Quicktime to make the conversion? Thanks so much. On Mar 7, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! It is accessible in its version 11, It works great! SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com El 07/03/2012, a las 11:36, Eric Oyen escribió: I am thinking of getting back into using iMovie. I have the older program (version '09) and the scroll areas are not accessible nor are some of the buttons. does anyone have any updated information about iMovie and using voiceover? -eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille displays
My Refreshabraille is working just fine with 5.1 Jane On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: Does anyone know for sure if the refreshabraille is currently working with IOS 5.1? I remember reading about some displays not currently working under 5.1 and can't remember which ones they were. On 4/4/12, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote: Not to sound mean or anything, *but* :) I remember the days when I carried a ten-pound laptop around, not to mention the earlier days when I carried a tape-recorder and two Braille volumes. Should I mention the steam-powered computer with the coal hopper? (grins) Anyway, I suppose that it depends on what is important to each person. For me, 40-cell displays are very important, so I don't mind the 1-pound extra weight. Teresa Slow down; you'll get there faster. On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote: I have the Refreshabraille and really like it. I would not mind having something like 40, but you cannot beat the 18 cells for travel and at $1,700 it is a good deal. The build quality is certainly there and I gather there are some displays for less, but may not be worth consideration. On Apr 4, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Christine Grassman wrote: I would like to jump in for some opinions from those who have purchased a Braille Pen, RefreshaBraille or the Perkins nottetaker: I want a Braille display, solely for purposes of reading iBooks and Read to Go Books on my iPhone. I have always preferred Braille, and miss it terribly, though I am thrilled to be able to download a newspaper and listen as I commute. As far as I am concerned, I just want something simple and straightforward for this purpose. Please feel free to write me off-line about this, and if anyone has a link for information comparing the less expensive, lightest-weight, portable Braille displays, I would appreciate getting it. Thanks. (I don't care much about input on the display, just output.) Christine On Apr 4, 2012, at 11:42 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: I had to buy a new Braille display when I got my Mac Mini, because I couldn't use my Braille Lite 40. I much prefer 40-cell displays, and as far as I'm aware, the Focus 40 Blue is the least expensive of those by far. Most run around at least $5000 US. Teresa The Golden Age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete Graham On Apr 4, 2012, at 4:42 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: Well, window-eyes actually supports a lot more than apple does, but apple for sure supports all of the modern ones. Except that they are footdragging on the brialliant BI displays. Most of the ones they're missing are legacy serial and parallel devices. Best, Erik Burggraaf Currently on ebony promos: Ebony consulting on android accessibility, New drive imaging services available. To read more and subscribe, visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2012-04-04, at 6:46 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: I asked about the price of a Focus 40 Blue. They said $2,800. Now I think that's high, but it has 40 cells. The more cells, the more money. I think $5,000 is for those 80 cell displays. What you're going to do with your braille, display just like computers, determines how many cells you need. I have to have 40 because of doing braille proofreading. However, if I wanted one to carry around for church so I could read my Bible or hymn music, on an iPad, maybe one of those 12 or 18 cell ones would be the ticket. It would be even better to carry around with an iPad or iPhone if the price were less than $1500. You would have to have a good reason or be lucky enough to afford the luxury to spend $1500 on a display for your iPad while traveling. I have found, because I do a little traveling with my 40 cell display that it does add significantly to the weight of your MacBookPro to carry the display around. To make this topic more Mac related, I was impressed, to say the least, when I found out how many braille displays would work with VoiceOver. There were ones on the list I had never heard of. I don't believe any of the other screen readers could say that their program could support that many displays. There's a fair number with Jaws, and somebody could correct me about this, but I don't think it's as many as VoiceOver. Regards, Gigi Eugenia Firth gigifi...@sbcglobal.net On Apr 3, 2012, at 9:06 PM, David Tanner wrote: I understand where you are coming from, but it is good to see that there are some displays starting to come down to a somewhat more reasonable price. For example, the Braille PPen with 12 cells for $999 is not a bad price even though it only has 12 cells. The new 16 cell display and basic notetaker from Perkins Products for $1,549 is a better deal too. And, the Refresh A Braille from American Printing House
Text edit and Lion
Hi everyone! I have a new MacBook air and this is my first adventure with VoiceOver on a Mac computer. I have read the Getting started book, which did give me some minimal starting points. I'm now going through the tutorials done by David Woodbridge. Obviously there are a few things that must have changed in Lion. One of the most annoying things I can't get around comes in Text Edit. I can't believe there's no warning when it over writes a file and that no matter what I do, it just saves it when I quit. That's worse than automatically changing words to something I don't want. Ultimately if I end up using this computer for real, I'll likely spring for Pages or something, hoping that it doesn't do this as well. Also, when I open a file, I sure don't land where David does in his little demo. I have to go through a bunch of radio buttons before I find a list view table of document names. Is there a quicker way to open a document? And I won't even talk about mail yet. grin. Anyway, any help would sure be appreciated. Thanks. Veronica Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing The Star-spangled Banner at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ Then learn about Music CDs that will impact and entertain you forever! http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com Veronica Elsea, Owner Laurel Creek Music Designs Santa Cruz, California 831-429-6407 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: accessible iMovie?
It's available from Apple here: http://www.apple.com/quicktime/extending/ It also enables basic editing so it might just be all you need. CB On 4/4/12 10:08 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: Hello Chris. Where do I get Quicktime Pro? I am running Lion and of course have the Quicktime Player. Thanks so much. On Apr 3, 2012, at 5:33 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: I didn't see an answer to this question. Did you mean .wmv since you are talking about video? .wma is an audio format. That said, assuming you meant .wmv, you can convert after the fact using QuickTime Pro which lets you open a video file and SaveAs .wmv format. Hope this helps. CB On 3/7/12 12:45 PM, Paul Hunt wrote: Hello. I need to make a video in the .wav or .wma format. Can I use IMovie or Quicktime to make the conversion? Thanks so much. On Mar 7, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Daniela Rubio mabuha...@gmail.com mailto:mabuha...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! It is accessible in its version 11, It works great! SALUDOS, DANIELA R.T. MACNETICOS, APPLE Y ACCESIBILIDAD A TU ALCANCE. EN TWITTER: @macneticos NUESTRO BLOG EN: www.macneticus.blogspot.com http://www.macneticus.blogspot.com/ Y EL PODCAST EN:` http://macneticos.libsyn.com http://macneticos.libsyn.com/instalando-ios-5 El 07/03/2012, a las 11:36, Eric Oyen escribió: I am thinking of getting back into using iMovie. I have the older program (version '09) and the scroll areas are not accessible nor are some of the buttons. does anyone have any updated information about iMovie and using voiceover? -eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: High contrast on and off?
I think this conflicts with voiceover which grabs anything with a control+option combo. You might have to turn VO off first, turn on high contrast and then turn VO back on again. CB On 4/4/12 10:11 PM, Michael Malarsie wrote: Greetings! So in Universal Access is says that in order to access the white on black or black on white I should press command, option, control, and 8. This doesn't do anything though. Am I just completely missing something here? I am confused. Thanks yall Mike Malarsie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: command-shift-a
Wonder what it's chewing on. Maybe it's time to do a permissions repair? CB On 4/4/12 8:34 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi Anne! I didn't think I had and when I checked just now there were no keystrokes defined. I just get a finder busy error and my fan spins up and finder just sits there and when I force quit the fan keeps going. Then if I restart the computer, I get one of two messages, TISwitcher has no windows or the other one is folder dispatcher has no windows. Its really odd. Jim On Apr 4, 2012, at 5:14 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: Jim, just a thought, have you been creating shortcuts in System Preferences? If so, it's possible that you've used Cmd-Shift-a for something else which will have disabled this command. I know it sounds unlikely, but someone I know did this to Cmd-c. Cheers, Anne On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi all! I'm having this weird problem which has just started within the past week or so. When I press command-shift-a in finder to open the applications window, my finder gives me a busy error and I have to force quit the finder. Any ideas or remedies? Thanks, Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: command-shift-a
I guess you can ignore my previous message then :) It does sound like there is something corrupted. CB On 4/4/12 5:14 PM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hey Mark! I've done that both from Utilities and from the command-r at startup to get disk utility from there. Its weird and I see no reason why it should be happening. Jim On Apr 4, 2012, at 1:30 PM, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Jim, The first thing that comes to mind is that you repair permissions. You can find this option in the utilities folder. Open Utilities by using key-combo Command+Shift+U. Mark On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote: Hi all! I'm having this weird problem which has just started within the past week or so. When I press command-shift-a in finder to open the applications window, my finder gives me a busy error and I have to force quit the finder. Any ideas or remedies? Thanks, Jim - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. - Chat with me on facebook: http://www.facebook.com/jimintexas Twitter: https://twitter.com/jimintexas Skype: jimintexas Yahoo or Aim/Ichat: jgatteys -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Text edit and Lion
Hello Veronica, On 5 Apr 2012, at 06:02, Veronica Elsea wrote: One of the most annoying things I can't get around comes in Text Edit. I can't believe there's no warning when it over writes a file and that no matter what I do, it just saves it when I quit. I don't know what you mean about it overwriting files, but it does save automatically as you work. However, if you close a file with Cmd-w you will get a dialogue asking whether you want to save your changes or not. You still have to quit the application with Cmd-q as it does not quit automatically when it has no windows open. Also, when I open a file, I sure don't land where David does in his little demo. I have to go through a bunch of radio buttons before I find a list view table of document names. Is there a quicker way to open a document? The first thing that comes to mind is your settings in VoiceOver Utility. In the Navigation category, Initial position of VoiceOver cursor should be Keyboard focused item. You talk about opening a file, but it sounds as though you're opening a folder containing files. Each file type is associated with a default application. So, RTF files automatically open with TextEdit. Cheers, Anne -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
