iPad Pro & Apple Pencil

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Listerrs,

Ok so a craziesh question for those who like being crazy.

Has anyone on the list got or know of a VO user with an iPad pro that also uses 
an apple pencil?

I've tried using the pencil previously and thought it was a joke being blind 
and trying to do precission detail work on an iPad with the pencil,
But now that I own and want to do more with my iPad pro I'm starting to wonder 
if the pencil might be of use for somethings  such as signing of documents via 
word or pages / pdf files etc,
Or handwriting for taking notes
And just because I can  trying to draw / sketch  things if tring to demonstrate 
or for reports etc.

I'm just wondering how if anyone else has tried, how did they get on?

Thanks for any info folks can provide.

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Re: Do we have voice over when accessing the hardware test?

[E.T.]

   No.

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Do we have voice over when accessing the hardware test?

[Ramy Moustafa]

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iTunes and a podcast

[Agent086b]

Hi all,
I have re-built my iTunes database. I now have all my music back as it should 
be. I have one problem with a podcast. The podcast is listed when I arrow 
through my podcasts. It says that the podcast is not subscribed. I can’t 
re-subscribe the podcast and I can’t delete it so I can download it again.
Anybody got any ideas?
Thanks for any help.
Max.

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RE: Performing hardware test on my mac mini

[Maria Reyes]

Hi, there is an app out that gives you stats on your Mac called iStat Menu.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Tim Kilburn
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 11:02 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Performing hardware test on my mac mini

Hi,

The key that they are referring to is the actual letter "d" key.  You hold down 
the "d" key on startup and the Mac is put into Diagnostic mode.  All well and 
good, but Diagnostic mode is not accessible with VO, so, you're out of luck 
with this option.  If you are attempting to see if a fan is working, I suggest 
Google searching something like SMC Fan Kit which allows for monitoring and 
modifying internal fan speeds.  You do need to be careful with this app as it 
is only partially accessible and you do not wish to mess with too many of the 
default fan speeds unless you know what you're actually manipulating and the 
consequences of modifying it.

Later...

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Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 16, 2018, at 23:27, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Hi 
Still need ur assistant plz.
Thanks in advance 

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
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music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 17, 2018, at 1:44 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Hi all:

I need urgently to make a hardware scan on my macmini because i doubt that the 
fan is not working.
i searched online, and my mac is late 2012, i’m running High sierra.
I shut down and i hold teh D key while opening as mentioned exactly.
nothing happened and i didn’t go to the test screen at all.
i assume tha  the D key that they mentioned is the delete key in the 6 back. 
but the VOice over keyboard helper told me that the. backslash is the delete 
key.
don’t know how, but anyway i tried the both.

any ideas on how to achieve this please?
thanks so much

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Re: time stamps in E-Mail

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

When browsing through the Mail messages, the messages will appear with their 
relative dates for expediency purposes.  If you open the message and interact 
with the Message Header, you will find the more detailed date.  Similarly, if 
you print out the messages, the absolute date should appear instead of the 
relative one.

HTH.

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On Apr 14, 2018, at 09:22, Kristeen Hughes  wrote:

Is there a way to get mail older than the same day to show it’s time stamp? I 
have been asked this and I have never cared, so do not know.

Kristeen

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How to re-arrange my mail boxes

[Paul Hopewell]

Hello, 
I am using Apple mail on the latest High Sierra 10.13.4. My mail boxes have 
become disorganised with some mail boxes wrongly subordinate to others. All are 
local to my iMac.
I have tried to correct this using the VoiceOver drag and drop commands but 
they  do not work. I have also tried using the mouse down and mouse up commands 
but this has only made matters worse!
Is there a VoiceOver friendly way to move mail boxes into a desired structure?
Many thanks…


Paul Hopewell

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Re: Sending iCloud links in email

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Glad you got it to work.

Later...

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On Apr 17, 2018, at 10:19, Angus MacKinnon  wrote:

Tim

A sighted friend solved the problem. After moving the mouse cursor to the file, 
the file was not selected. Pressed the page reset and the file was selected. I 
now could set file permisions and create the link.


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Re: Sending iCloud links in email

[Angus MacKinnon]

Tim

A sighted friend solved the problem. After moving the mouse cursor to the file, 
the file was not selected. Pressed the page reset and the file was selected. I 
now could set file permisions and create the link.


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Re: Sending iCloud links in email

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I'm not sure if I totally understand what you're trying to do.  If you're just 
wanting to share a specific file that you have in iCloud, I'd suggest that you 
do this either from the file itself, or from the Finder while on your Mac.  The 
iCloud interface is not easy to navigate with VO.  If your Gmail is your Apple 
ID, then you should have no issues.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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On Apr 16, 2018, at 14:42, Angus MacKinnon  wrote:

I have an OS 10.11.6 iMac.I habe logged into iCloud and see the file I wish to 
send using the smtp, vig...@gmail.com . How do I link 
to the file in iCloud so gmail does not complain? Thank you.


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Re: How do I enter numbers on face time audio?

[E.T.]

   I have not done this but see if this works on automated systems 
where you need to enter a menu option. Mute your call, this should allow 
you to respond to those prompts.


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On 4/17/2018 5:43 AM, Michael Busboom wrote:

Hi.

I am not sure that I understand the nature of your question, so the suggestion 
I am about to make might not even apply.

The only way I know of for making FaceTime or FaceTime audio calls is to make 
sure that the person whom I wish to call is in my contacts.  Once in my 
contacts, making a call is as straightforward as telling Siri, for example: 
„Make a FaceTime audio call to Mike Busboom.“

Once in a FaceTime conversation, I do not think that it is possible to send the 
tones representing the numbers to your FaceTime partner.  This approach works 
on the Mac, as well as on the iPhone.  Although I do not own an iPad, it would 
probably work their, too.

I hope this helps.

Best regards,

Mike





On 14.04.2018, at 04:10, Robert Cole  wrote:

Dear List,
Can someone tell me why I can’t press numbers using the top row, or the num pad 
while on a face time audio call?
Here is what I did.
In Text Edit, I highlighted a phone number
Pressed VO+Shift+M to open the menu.
from there I chose face time audio call.
after face time opened, I VO+Spaced on the call button.
Now I need to enter account numbers and select options, but I am not able to 
enter numbers.
Thanks in advance.
Rob

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Re: Performing hardware test on my mac mini

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

The key that they are referring to is the actual letter "d" key.  You hold down 
the "d" key on startup and the Mac is put into Diagnostic mode.  All well and 
good, but Diagnostic mode is not accessible with VO, so, you're out of luck 
with this option.  If you are attempting to see if a fan is working, I suggest 
Google searching something like SMC Fan Kit which allows for monitoring and 
modifying internal fan speeds.  You do need to be careful with this app as it 
is only partially accessible and you do not wish to mess with too many of the 
default fan speeds unless you know what you're actually manipulating and the 
consequences of modifying it.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 16, 2018, at 23:27, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:

Hi 
Still need ur assistant plz.
Thanks in advance 

Ramy moustafa saber
licturer at:
faculty of musical education
music arranger and sound engineer
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 17, 2018, at 1:44 AM, Ramy Moustafa  wrote:
> 
> Hi all:
> 
> I need urgently to make a hardware scan on my macmini because i doubt that 
> the fan is not working.
> i searched online, and my mac is late 2012, i’m running High sierra.
> I shut down and i hold teh D key while opening as mentioned exactly.
> nothing happened and i didn’t go to the test screen at all.
> i assume tha  the D key that they mentioned is the delete key in the 6 back. 
> but the VOice over keyboard helper told me that the. backslash is the delete 
> key.
> don’t know how, but anyway i tried the both.
> 
> any ideas on how to achieve this please?
> thanks so much

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Re: reacting to messages in messages app for Mac

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

My understanding is that the reactions are available in MacOS, just not 
particularly easy to get at from a a VO prospective.  I was able to locate a 
"Tap Back" option, but not to actually get the Reaction emojis and choose from 
them.

Check out this for more detailed info:

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2016/10/01/add-reactions-to-imessages/

Later...


Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 16, 2018, at 18:56, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:

As far as I know none of the application links or responses are available on 
MacOS.


Best wishes,

Jonathan Cohn



> On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:21 PM, E.T.  > wrote:
> 
>   Gotcha. No idea. I usually take messages on my iPhone.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 4/16/2018 4:09 PM, aliFaisal wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I was referring to the reactions that are available on the messages app on 
>> IOS IE thumbs up, heart, etc. I am wondering if we can react in a similar 
>> fashion from within the messages app on the mac.
>> Thank you.
>>> On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:02 PM, E.T. >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>>   Ok I think what yu want is to use VO-n to bring up the notification list 
>>> then open the message dialog from there.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>> Many believe that we have been visited
>>> in the past. What if it were true?
>>> 
>>> On 4/16/2018 1:51 PM, aliFaisal wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 Is it possible to react to messages on the mac like it is on IOS?
 If so, how would this be done.
 Thanks
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Re: Further to earlier mail re playing audio content on my Mac

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Steve is spot on.  This message is not necessarily saying that you are not 
connected to the Internet, it is simply telling you that your login credentials 
for iCloud are not valid at the moment.  It is possible that the problem has 
happened because you actually are not connected to the Internet, which would 
mean that all you need to do is press VO-m-m to access the Extras menu, 
VO-right to the WiFi menu, VO-space on it to open the menu, then VO-down to 
your WiFi network, and finally press VO-space or return to connect to that WiFi 
network.  If you've never been connected to the network in the past, then 
you'll be asked for the password if one was set.  Enter the password and press 
return.  You are now connected to the Internet.  You would then be able to 
access FaceTime and such.

If the connection to WiFi was already established, but this error message 
appeared anyway, then you'd need to enter the password in System Preferences to 
have it not continue bothering you.  This message was fairly common in El 
Capitan, especially when you didn't use your computer in a while.  There should 
be a button on this error message that will take you directly to the proper 
pane of System Preferences, which is the Internet Accounts pane.  If it does 
not straight away ask you for your iCloud password, then you may need to press 
the Sign Out button then the Sign In button.  I would suggest that this iCloud 
is likely your Apple ID, so you will need to enter the username and password 
for your Apple ID to allow the MacOS to access iCloud services.  As a matter of 
interest, although I don't necessarily recommend it, you could press the 
"Later" button in this error dialog and go on your merry way.  That is, you don 
not need to be signed into these services in order to access FaceTime or 
iMessages.  You can simply open those apps specifically, enter your Apple ID 
and password and they are ready to use.

HTH.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 16, 2018, at 18:22, Steve Matzura  wrote:

If no one has told you as yet, may I be the first, that message has absolutely 
nothing to do with your ability to connect to a local Wi-Fi network. That 
message is telling you either your iCloud username or password is wrong. That's 
all.


On 4/15/2018 2:17 PM, 'andy' via MacVisionaries wrote:
> Hi Simon, Andrew, others and Steve.
>  
> Thankyou all for offering me your help with Skype or facebook or by email, in 
> respect to helping me play audio content on my Mac.
>  
>  
> One of the big attractions for me to get a Macbook was because I could talk 
> with my family in Sydney and Canada by using Facetime.
>  
> Unfortunately, I've not progressed far enough to set these facilities up.
>  
> The main reason is that I cannot connect to the internet on my Macbook.
>  
> Other devices such as my Iphone, my Wife's Dell lap-top and my Window 7 
> computer are all coping with the wired or wy fy facilities of my roughter, so 
> the problems I am having lay within my Macbook.
>  
> Here is what is happening.
>  
> When I boot up my Macbook and after the standard introduction, I get the 
> following message:
>  
> "Application Alert - System Dialogue -  - This Mac cannot connect to Icloud  
> because of a problem with meikle.ai...@btinternet.com 
> ". "Open System Preferences of Icloud to 
> fix this problem"
>  
>  
> So obviously I'm not on-line and before I can go further in my learning with 
> music, I really need to be able to resolve this.
>  
> Despite several attempts at going into System Preferences, I just end up in a 
> maize.
>  
> You see, I simply don't have the knowledge or skills to mess around in there.
>  
> If this makes my position a little clearer, then that's great and I'd welcome 
> any advice.
>  
> I have however managed to get one-to one help from SITE Glasgow shortly but 
> because I'm going to be on holiday for a week, I cannot get this support for 
> a few weeks.
>  
> I was actually thinking of taking my Macbook to Spain with me on holiday and 
> spend most evenings going through, Janet Ingber's wonderful book.
>  
> Perhaps I may well yet.  I go on holiday on 21 May for 1 week, so perhaps I 
> can resolve this issue befor then.
>  
> Very best wishes and thanks again for your on-going support.
>  
> Very best wishes.
>  
> Andy.
> From Scotland with Love.
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Re: Current Location in Amadeus Pro

[Jeff Berwick]

When I use cmd + g, it is populated with zeros—even if I route the insertion 
point to the play head.

Jeff


> On Apr 17, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Command+g will give you that information. It will also allow you to enter a 
> new time value to jump to.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 17, 2018, at 8:18 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> Can anybody tell me how, using Voiceover, I can find out where the play head 
>> and insertion point are located (in time) in the current track?
>> 
>> For example, I’d like to stop the play head and be able to hit a keystroke 
>> (or activate a menu option) and know that I am at 1’23’’456.
>> 
>> Tia,
>> Jeff
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Re: Current Location in Amadeus Pro

[Robert Carter]

Hi,

Command+g will give you that information. It will also allow you to enter a new 
time value to jump to.

Robert Carter




> On Apr 17, 2018, at 8:18 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> Can anybody tell me how, using Voiceover, I can find out where the play head 
> and insertion point are located (in time) in the current track?
> 
> For example, I’d like to stop the play head and be able to hit a keystroke 
> (or activate a menu option) and know that I am at 1’23’’456.
> 
> Tia,
> Jeff
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Current Location in Amadeus Pro

[Jeff Berwick]

Hi guys,

Can anybody tell me how, using Voiceover, I can find out where the play head 
and insertion point are located (in time) in the current track?

For example, I’d like to stop the play head and be able to hit a keystroke (or 
activate a menu option) and know that I am at 1’23’’456.

Tia,
Jeff


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Re: How do I enter numbers on face time audio?

[Michael Busboom]

Hi.

I am not sure that I understand the nature of your question, so the suggestion 
I am about to make might not even apply.

The only way I know of for making FaceTime or FaceTime audio calls is to make 
sure that the person whom I wish to call is in my contacts.  Once in my 
contacts, making a call is as straightforward as telling Siri, for example: 
„Make a FaceTime audio call to Mike Busboom.“ 

Once in a FaceTime conversation, I do not think that it is possible to send the 
tones representing the numbers to your FaceTime partner.  This approach works 
on the Mac, as well as on the iPhone.  Although I do not own an iPad, it would 
probably work their, too.

I hope this helps.

Best regards,

Mike




> On 14.04.2018, at 04:10, Robert Cole  wrote:
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> Dear List,
> Can someone tell me why I can’t press numbers using the top row, or the num 
> pad while on a face time audio call?
> Here is what I did.
> In Text Edit, I highlighted a phone number
> Pressed VO+Shift+M to open the menu.
> from there I chose face time audio call.
> after face time opened, I VO+Spaced on the call button.
> Now I need to enter account numbers and select options, but I am not able to 
> enter numbers.
> Thanks in advance.
> Rob
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Re: Can someone help with getting info on a Gmail account?

[Donna Goodin]

Hey Simon,

Tried that.  Looks like I need the company admin.  Thanks, though.
Cheers,
Donna


> On Apr 17, 2018, at 2:30 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Donna most likely not but why not just do a forgot password to reset it?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Donna Goodin
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2018 10:40 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Can someone help with getting info on a Gmail account?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm having an issue with my gmail password, and need to know how many 
> characters it has.  In all my other email accounts, I can see the number of 
> characters when I click Details in the Internet Accounts pane.  But when I 
> click on my Gmail account, it does not show me the number of characters in my 
> password.  Does anyone know if there's a way I can see this information?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Can someone help with getting info on a Gmail account?

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Maria,

It is an account that was created for me by our company administrator, so I 
don't have a phone number associated with it, which you need to reset your 
password in Google..  It's looking like my best bet may be to have him send me 
a reset password link.  

This whole password thing has gotten so crazy.  Necessary, but still crazy. I 
do think I'll check out One Password
Cheers,
Donna

> On Apr 16, 2018, at 9:53 PM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
> 
> Hi, I wonder if you try to log into your gmail account, isn’t there a reset 
> password button? Yes 1Password is an awesome app. If you want, you can have 
> it generate a password for you.
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS 
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
> behalf of Donna Goodin 
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 10:41:22 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Can someone help with getting info on a Gmail account?
>  
> Thanks, Jonathan.  I've never used OnePassword, but it certainly seems like a 
> good way to go.  Guess I'll have to contact the account admin and see if they 
> can give me a link to reset.  Thanks for the explanation.
> Cheers,
> Donna 
>> On Apr 16, 2018, at 8:00 PM, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
>> 
>> Donna,
>> 
>>  don't believe the Macintosh actually keeps the password for Google accounts 
>> but instead generates some kind of certificate to generate one time 
>> passwords. Certainly I have had a lot of issues with Google and the Mac Mail 
>> count over the past 6 to 8 weeks. Luckily I have one password store all my 
>> passwords and I just need to go back into the internet accounts in system 
>> settings.
>> 
>> If you have a phone associated with your Gmail account you can recover via 
>> that phone and SMS messages.
>> 
>> Jonathan 
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 16, 2018, at 6:40 PM, Donna Goodin >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I'm having an issue with my gmail password, and need to know how many 
>>> characters it has.  In all my other email accounts, I can see the number of 
>>> characters when I click Details in the Internet Accounts pane.  But when I 
>>> click on my Gmail account, it does not show me the number of characters in 
>>> my password.  Does anyone know if there's a way I can see this information?
>>> TIA,
>>> Donna
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Re: icloud Mail

[Andrew Lamanche]

Hi Maria,

the only thing I can think about is that when I was setting up Thunderbird 
email on Windows 10, I had to generate app specific password in my icloud 
account in my account section of icloud.   Remember to keep a copy of it.  I’m 
not sure if it’s going to answer your question.

Good luck

Andrew
> On Apr 17, 2018, at 2:52 AM, Maria Reyes  wrote:
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> Hi all, 
> I posted this earlier, but I didn’t see any replies or I just missed them, 
> but I’m trying to use iCloud Mail on my windows 10 laptop using the built in 
> mail app. I have the account with an app specific password, however, when I 
> try to send messages, they won’t send. I get an error email. I do have the 
> address correct. Is there something I need to enable in my settings?
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Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?

[Ian Harrison]

Hi all, this is what I now have to do.

I have to remember at least the first character of my user name and type it in. 
Then just before predictions on the keyboard a list of options comes up if you 
use the same user name for more than one web site. If you tap on the correct 
one, the rest of the name and password is filled in. I then click on go or 
login. I have no need to use figerprint reader.

Cheers
Ian
> On 16 Apr 2018, at 00:30, Danny Keys  wrote:
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> Hello,
> 
> Interesting. Where's this button to activate the fingerprint when filling 
> user names and passwords, don't see it.
> 
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> On Apr 15, 2018, at 4:06 PM, Maria Reyes  > wrote:
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>> Hi, that’s the only way I’ve figured out how to do it. If you have Touch ID 
>> enabled, it should ask you for your fingerprint after you double tap on the 
>> button. 
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>> From: Alex Hall 
>> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2018 3:51 PM
>> To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
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>> Subject: Re: Did iOS 11.3 kill auto-fill?
>>  
>> Thanks guys. I wish there would be an alert, asking for a fingerprint to 
>> allow auto-fill. Short of that, is there an easier way to do this? One of 
>> the responses in this thread mentioned tapping a point on the screen, but 
>> how does that work for VoiceOver users? My workaround is to use the 
>> prediction above the keyboard, but if there's an easier way, I'd love to 
>> know about it. Thanks.
>> 
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>>  
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:32, Jonathan Cohn > > wrote:
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>> Unfortunately this is not a bug but a feature. There were concerns about 
>> auto-fill inputting information without users knowledge. I guess somebody 
>> figured out a way to use autofill functionality with JavaScript to cause 
>> logins or other activities without user knowledge. I did recently read how 
>> even a carefully crafted CSS could be used to steal passwords and usernames, 
>> though I would think that autofill would prevent that type of hack.. In any 
>> case, in addition to allowing webforms on other applications to use Safari 
>> Autofill information, they now require that autofill only works after 
>> tapping a point on the screen. I wonder if they added any autofill to the 
>> low mobility interfaces.
>>  
>>  
>>   Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 15, 2018, at 8:17 AM, Alex Hall > > wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> I'm always beta testing, so I'm used to ignoring small bugs that get fixed 
>> in final builds. Yesterday, though, I updated a client's iPad to iOS 11.3, 
>> and the iPad stopped auto-filling the client's Amazon password. I noticed 
>> this in the betas on my own devices, but thought nothing of it.
>>  
>> We do a lot of work with Amazon and Audible, so this is a pretty big 
>> annoyance. The option to fill in the password is there, but the password no 
>> longer appears automatically as it used to. Now, the client has to find the 
>> option to fill it in above the keyboard, while trying not to touch somewhere 
>> on the page and thus dismiss the keyboard. Is there any way to get things 
>> back to how they were? Thanks for any ideas.
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RE: Can someone help with getting info on a Gmail account?

[Simon Fogarty]

Donna most likely not but why not just do a forgot password to reset it?

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Behalf Of Donna Goodin
Sent: Tuesday, 17 April 2018 10:40 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Can someone help with getting info on a Gmail account?

Hi all,

I'm having an issue with my gmail password, and need to know how many 
characters it has.  In all my other email accounts, I can see the number of 
characters when I click Details in the Internet Accounts pane.  But when I 
click on my Gmail account, it does not show me the number of characters in my 
password.  Does anyone know if there's a way I can see this information?
TIA,
Donna

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