Re: Question about making phone calls through FaceTime

[Brian Hansen]

Once you’ve connected to your bank, hit VO-Shift-Space. This seems to get 
focus, and then you can enter the numbers like normal.

Blessings,

Brian


> On Apr 20, 2018, at 9:38 PM, Robert Cole  wrote:
> 
> This does not work.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 20, 2018, at 10:00 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>  I have not tried this but after you connect, press the mute button and you 
>> should be able to enter numbers.
>> 
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>>> On 4/20/2018 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> When making a phone call through my iPhone in FaceTime on my Mac, is there 
>>> a way to use voicemail, banking and other systems that require numbers to 
>>> be entered on the keypad?
>>> It used to be possible to enter numbers on the number row on the keyboard, 
>>> but it seems that in High Sierra this no longer works.
>>> Thanks for any assistance.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Grant
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Re: Question about making phone calls through FaceTime

[Robert Cole]

This does not work.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 20, 2018, at 10:00 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   I have not tried this but after you connect, press the mute button and you 
> should be able to enter numbers.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
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>> On 4/20/2018 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> When making a phone call through my iPhone in FaceTime on my Mac, is there a 
>> way to use voicemail, banking and other systems that require numbers to be 
>> entered on the keypad?
>> It used to be possible to enter numbers on the number row on the keyboard, 
>> but it seems that in High Sierra this no longer works.
>> Thanks for any assistance.
>> Cheers,
>> Grant
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Re: Question about making phone calls through FaceTime

[E.T.]

   I have not tried this but after you connect, press the mute button 
and you should be able to enter numbers.


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On 4/20/2018 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:

Hi all,

When making a phone call through my iPhone in FaceTime on my Mac, is there a 
way to use voicemail, banking and other systems that require numbers to be 
entered on the keypad?

It used to be possible to enter numbers on the number row on the keyboard, but 
it seems that in High Sierra this no longer works.

Thanks for any assistance.

Cheers,

Grant



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Question about making phone calls through FaceTime

[Grant Hardy]

Hi all,

When making a phone call through my iPhone in FaceTime on my Mac, is there a 
way to use voicemail, banking and other systems that require numbers to be 
entered on the keypad?

It used to be possible to enter numbers on the number row on the keyboard, but 
it seems that in High Sierra this no longer works.

Thanks for any assistance.

Cheers,

Grant

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1Password for iOS

[E.T.]

   Decided to start using 1Password on my iPhone 8 Plus. I tested with 
two shopping sites. Amazon does not seem to offer me a way to invoke 
1Password when the login screen pops up. Walmart did. What do I need to 
do on Amazon? Thanks.


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Re: signing a document in word

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Translating from Word to pdf is easy on the Mac and can be done through the 
print dialog.

Later...

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Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 20, 2018, at 16:00, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Yeah that’s my probellm,
 
I’ve got my ipad also and again was concerned about sig location.
 
 
 
Not to mention that the documents are currently in word format and on my 
windows notebook although that’s not difficult to correct.
 
 
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
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Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2018 9:56 AM
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Subject: Re: signing a document in word
 
Hi,
 
Yes, in Preview, you are able to sign with your finger directly on the 
Trackpad.  The difficulty arises in the location of the signature.  I've always 
used sighted assistance to ensure that the signature is properly placed, as I'm 
not sure that it would automatically be able to do that.
 
Later...
 
Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Apr 20, 2018, at 15:28, Simon Fogarty > wrote:
 
Hi Jonathan,
 
So are you saying that directly on to the touch pad I should be able to sign my 
name in to the letter through preview or should I say within preview?
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Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2018 1:40 AM
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Subject: Re: signing a document in word
 
hello,
 
Preview is supposed to have a sign document functionality. 
I don’t remember exactly how it works, but my El Capitan system does have 
 
Tools->Annotate->Signatures->manage Signatures 
 
menu item. 
 
I believe that Tidbits might have described how to do this also in a article 
about a year and a half ago.
 
Best Wishes,
 
Jonathan 
 
On Apr 20, 2018, at 8:46 AM, Simon Fogarty > wrote:
 
Hi Listers,
 
I urgently need a solution to a problem with a word document.
 
I’ve got 2 job application cover letters and CV to submit before the end of 
today
 
Problem is that the cover letters have been written in MS Word 2016 on a 
windows notebook 
 
Now because I don’t have access to a working printer / scanner to print the 
letter and sign it then scan it to PDF 
 
I need a solution to  being able to sign the cover letters,
 
One option I can try is to sign it on my ipad but currently I don’t have word 
setup or a stylus to sign with  but guess finger would do fine.
 
 
Anyone else got any other possible solutions.
Anything would be appreciated.
 
Cheers 
 
 
Simon f
 
 
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RE: signing a document in word

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah that’s my probellm,

I’ve got my ipad also and again was concerned about sig location.



Not to mention that the documents are currently in word format and on my 
windows notebook although that’s not difficult to correct.


From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2018 9:56 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: signing a document in word

Hi,

Yes, in Preview, you are able to sign with your finger directly on the 
Trackpad.  The difficulty arises in the location of the signature.  I've always 
used sighted assistance to ensure that the signature is properly placed, as I'm 
not sure that it would automatically be able to do that.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 20, 2018, at 15:28, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

Hi Jonathan,

So are you saying that directly on to the touch pad I should be able to sign my 
name in to the letter through preview or should I say within preview?
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2018 1:40 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: signing a document in word

hello,

Preview is supposed to have a sign document functionality.
I don’t remember exactly how it works, but my El Capitan system does have

Tools->Annotate->Signatures->manage Signatures

menu item.

I believe that Tidbits might have described how to do this also in a article 
about a year and a half ago.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan

On Apr 20, 2018, at 8:46 AM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

Hi Listers,

I urgently need a solution to a problem with a word document.

I’ve got 2 job application cover letters and CV to submit before the end of 
today

Problem is that the cover letters have been written in MS Word 2016 on a 
windows notebook

Now because I don’t have access to a working printer / scanner to print the 
letter and sign it then scan it to PDF

I need a solution to  being able to sign the cover letters,

One option I can try is to sign it on my ipad but currently I don’t have word 
setup or a stylus to sign with  but guess finger would do fine.


Anyone else got any other possible solutions.
Anything would be appreciated.

Cheers


Simon f


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RE: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Tim,

I agree,
I get similar issues at work when using windows / jaws and any number of web or 
desktop based applications.

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Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2018 2:31 AM
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Subject: Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

Hi,

I think that Jonathan is onto something with his response.  In regular 
documents, in most cases, the headings and such that are in all caps, still 
read as the word as opposed to the spelled out cap letters, whereas on the Net 
and in some pdf's, it is read out as Steve explains.  For the most part, I've 
just lived with it as an idiosyncrasy.

Later..

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 20, 2018, at 08:21, E.T. 
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  Sounds like something not easily remedied, perhaps with the pronunciation 
dictionary. I do not read ads myself so perhaps not an issue for me.

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On 4/20/2018 6:41 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:

On 4/19/2018 9:33 PM, E.T. wrote:

   I think VO as it stands, handles this properly. I opened a document in 
TextEdit and entered several acronyms. VO read them as expected, for example it 
reads ACLU as A C L U. There is a setting you might look at in VO Utility, 
Verbosity category, Text tab. It's an option that affects how capital letters 
are handled.
But that's single letters. Whenever I run into something in all capital 
letters, like an advertisement  with capital letters in a double-height 
double-wide font that says "big big savings" or something similar, I hear this:
B I G  S A V I N G S
without the spaces, of course. Every time I read something with the phrase "MAC 
address," I hear "M A C address." The setting to which you refer is only for 
single letters. The above examples are the kinds of things I want eliminated.

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RE: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

[Simon Fogarty]

On a website it sounds more like the vo config and how it's setup to do the job 
you want it to do,

But the cause is the fonts / styles in the webpage 
I'd say if anything VO is doing what you've set it up for and because webpages 
are different in how the CSS is configured or set it's making the changes in 
speech you hear.
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Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2018 2:22 AM
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Sounds like something not easily remedied, perhaps with the pronunciation 
dictionary. I do not read ads myself so perhaps not an issue for me.

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On 4/20/2018 6:41 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:
> On 4/19/2018 9:33 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>    I think VO as it stands, handles this properly. I opened a 
>> document in TextEdit and entered several acronyms. VO read them as 
>> expected, for example it reads ACLU as A C L U. There is a setting 
>> you might look at in VO Utility, Verbosity category, Text tab. It's 
>> an option that affects how capital letters are handled.
> 
> But that's single letters. Whenever I run into something in all 
> capital letters, like an advertisement  with capital letters in a 
> double-height double-wide font that says "big big savings" or 
> something similar, I hear this:
> 
> B I G  S A V I N G S
> 
> without the spaces, of course. Every time I read something with the 
> phrase "MAC address," I hear "M A C address." The setting to which you 
> refer is only for single letters. The above examples are the kinds of 
> things I want eliminated.
> 

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Re: signing a document in word

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

Yes, in Preview, you are able to sign with your finger directly on the 
Trackpad.  The difficulty arises in the location of the signature.  I've always 
used sighted assistance to ensure that the signature is properly placed, as I'm 
not sure that it would automatically be able to do that.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 20, 2018, at 15:28, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Hi Jonathan,
 
So are you saying that directly on to the touch pad I should be able to sign my 
name in to the letter through preview or should I say within preview?
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2018 1:40 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: signing a document in word
 
hello,
 
Preview is supposed to have a sign document functionality. 
I don’t remember exactly how it works, but my El Capitan system does have 
 
Tools->Annotate->Signatures->manage Signatures 
 
menu item. 
 
I believe that Tidbits might have described how to do this also in a article 
about a year and a half ago.
 
Best Wishes,
 
Jonathan 
 
On Apr 20, 2018, at 8:46 AM, Simon Fogarty > wrote:
 
Hi Listers,
 
I urgently need a solution to a problem with a word document.
 
I’ve got 2 job application cover letters and CV to submit before the end of 
today
 
Problem is that the cover letters have been written in MS Word 2016 on a 
windows notebook 
 
Now because I don’t have access to a working printer / scanner to print the 
letter and sign it then scan it to PDF 
 
I need a solution to  being able to sign the cover letters,
 
One option I can try is to sign it on my ipad but currently I don’t have word 
setup or a stylus to sign with  but guess finger would do fine.
 
 
Anyone else got any other possible solutions.
Anything would be appreciated.
 
Cheers 
 
 
Simon f
 
 
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RE: signing a document in word

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Jonathan,

So are you saying that directly on to the touch pad I should be able to sign my 
name in to the letter through preview or should I say within preview?
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Jonathan Cohn
Sent: Saturday, 21 April 2018 1:40 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: signing a document in word

hello,

Preview is supposed to have a sign document functionality.
I don’t remember exactly how it works, but my El Capitan system does have

Tools->Annotate->Signatures->manage Signatures

menu item.

I believe that Tidbits might have described how to do this also in a article 
about a year and a half ago.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan

On Apr 20, 2018, at 8:46 AM, Simon Fogarty 
> wrote:

Hi Listers,

I urgently need a solution to a problem with a word document.

I’ve got 2 job application cover letters and CV to submit before the end of 
today

Problem is that the cover letters have been written in MS Word 2016 on a 
windows notebook

Now because I don’t have access to a working printer / scanner to print the 
letter and sign it then scan it to PDF

I need a solution to  being able to sign the cover letters,

One option I can try is to sign it on my ipad but currently I don’t have word 
setup or a stylus to sign with  but guess finger would do fine.


Anyone else got any other possible solutions.
Anything would be appreciated.

Cheers


Simon f


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Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

[Jonathan Cohn]

An interesting parallel discussion in WEB AIM where somebody wanted to make 
sure “N” followed by “E” would be pronounced as separate characters. 

Who things to notice here:
1. the quoted word in Voice Over (El Capitan ) is spelled out.
2. The technique of inserting pseudo elements with ARIA into the middle of a 
stream of characters.
—


Hi,
As others have already pointed out, I don't recommend this except in some very 
rare circumstances.

ARIA was mentioned as a fix for this, but the recommended ways of doing this 
may be problematic across various platforms where support levels differ, so 
here is one that works more reliably.

The trick here is to use aria-owns to change the accessibility tree without 
impacting the DOM, like so. This changes "BEG" to "B E G", however it has no 
impact on the DOM or the styling of the visible text.

BEG

Then the following can be appended to the end of the body element so nobody 
will notice it.



This appends a space character at the end of the B and E letters in the 
accessibility tree, and this is what causes the separation to occur between 
them.

A few notes about this: Unlike other ARIA attributes like aria-labelledby or 
aria-describedby which can reference hidden elements, aria-owns doesn't work 
like this and won't render hidden elements. Also this technique should never be 
used on elements that don't support children like IMG elements or input 
elements, because this forces the accessibility tree to change and any content 
that is referenced like this will disappear and become impossible to navigate 
and interact with normally. Also using this method should never be used to move 
focusable interactive elements around because this does not change the tab 
order. The use of aria-owns cannot reference the same ID from different 
attributes, so each referenced node has to be different as shown above.

All the best,
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Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

[E.T.]

   Have you run this by Apple Accessibility?

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
Many believe that we have been visited
in the past. What if it were true?

On 4/20/2018 7:02 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:

OK, I found the culprit. It's the word "MAC"!


Something else odd is also going on because on some Web pages I hear 
phrases and sometimes entire short sentences spelled out with VO that I 
don't get presented that way in Windows, so there's probably some funky 
punctuation going on that maybe makes VO think the string is one big 
word, something, I just don't know. Next time I trip over this, I'll 
make careful note of it and post about it, along with the object that 
created/caused the spelling behavior.



On 4/20/2018 9:50 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:
That might have to do with how CSS is set up for those advertisements. 
If I type BIG SAVINGS my VoiceOVer reads the words and not the 
letters. Though while typing it it spoke the letters.


I have on occasion put a word into the pronunciation dictionary that 
did not handle the speaking of letters vs speaking of word 
pronunciation the way I wanted it to. And then while doing HTML 
editing I added
The string indicating the beginning of a HTML comment to say HTML 
comment. I can remember off hand if I added the equivalent dictionary 
entry for the end of comment marker.


Best Wishes,

Jonathan

On Apr 20, 2018, at 9:41 AM, Steve Matzura  
wrote:


On 4/19/2018 9:33 PM, E.T. wrote:
    I think VO as it stands, handles this properly. I opened a 
document in TextEdit and entered several acronyms. VO read them as 
expected, for example it reads ACLU as A C L U. There is a setting 
you might look at in VO Utility, Verbosity category, Text tab. It's 
an option that affects how capital letters are handled.
But that's single letters. Whenever I run into something in all 
capital letters, like an advertisement  with capital letters in a 
double-height double-wide font that says "big big savings" or 
something similar, I hear this:


B I G  S A V I N G S

without the spaces, of course. Every time I read something with the 
phrase "MAC address," I hear "M A C address." The setting to which 
you refer is only for single letters. The above examples are the 
kinds of things I want eliminated.


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Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

[Steve Matzura]

OK, I found the culprit. It's the word "MAC"!


Something else odd is also going on because on some Web pages I hear 
phrases and sometimes entire short sentences spelled out with VO that I 
don't get presented that way in Windows, so there's probably some funky 
punctuation going on that maybe makes VO think the string is one big 
word, something, I just don't know. Next time I trip over this, I'll 
make careful note of it and post about it, along with the object that 
created/caused the spelling behavior.



On 4/20/2018 9:50 AM, Jonathan Cohn wrote:

That might have to do with how CSS is set up for those advertisements. If I 
type BIG SAVINGS my VoiceOVer reads the words and not the letters. Though while 
typing it it spoke the letters.

I have on occasion put a word into the pronunciation dictionary that did not 
handle the speaking of letters vs speaking of word pronunciation the way I 
wanted it to. And then while doing HTML editing I added
The string indicating the beginning of a HTML comment to say HTML comment. I 
can remember off hand if I added the equivalent dictionary entry for the end of 
comment marker.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan


On Apr 20, 2018, at 9:41 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:

On 4/19/2018 9:33 PM, E.T. wrote:

I think VO as it stands, handles this properly. I opened a document in 
TextEdit and entered several acronyms. VO read them as expected, for example it 
reads ACLU as A C L U. There is a setting you might look at in VO Utility, 
Verbosity category, Text tab. It's an option that affects how capital letters 
are handled.

But that's single letters. Whenever I run into something in all capital letters, like an 
advertisement  with capital letters in a double-height double-wide font that says 
"big big savings" or something similar, I hear this:

B I G  S A V I N G S

without the spaces, of course. Every time I read something with the phrase "MAC address," 
I hear "M A C address." The setting to which you refer is only for single letters. The 
above examples are the kinds of things I want eliminated.

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Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

[E.T.]

   Yes exactly. Idiosyncrasy is fitting too.

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On 4/20/2018 7:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:

Hi,

I think that Jonathan is onto something with his response.  In regular 
documents, in most cases, the headings and such that are in all caps, 
still read as the word as opposed to the spelled out cap letters, 
whereas on the Net and in some pdf's, it is read out as Steve explains. 
  For the most part, I've just lived with it as an idiosyncrasy.


Later..

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On Apr 20, 2018, at 08:21, E.T. > wrote:


   Sounds like something not easily remedied, perhaps with the 
pronunciation dictionary. I do not read ads myself so perhaps not an 
issue for me.


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On 4/20/2018 6:41 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:

On 4/19/2018 9:33 PM, E.T. wrote:
   I think VO as it stands, handles this properly. I opened a 
document in TextEdit and entered several acronyms. VO read them as 
expected, for example it reads ACLU as A C L U. There is a setting 
you might look at in VO Utility, Verbosity category, Text tab. It's 
an option that affects how capital letters are handled.
But that's single letters. Whenever I run into something in all 
capital letters, like an advertisement  with capital letters in a 
double-height double-wide font that says "big big savings" or 
something similar, I hear this:

B I G  S A V I N G S
without the spaces, of course. Every time I read something with the 
phrase "MAC address," I hear "M A C address." The setting to which you 
refer is only for single letters. The above examples are the kinds of 
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Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

[Tim Kilburn]

Hi,

I think that Jonathan is onto something with his response.  In regular 
documents, in most cases, the headings and such that are in all caps, still 
read as the word as opposed to the spelled out cap letters, whereas on the Net 
and in some pdf's, it is read out as Steve explains.  For the most part, I've 
just lived with it as an idiosyncrasy.

Later..

Tim Kilburn
Apple Teacher
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On Apr 20, 2018, at 08:21, E.T.  wrote:

  Sounds like something not easily remedied, perhaps with the pronunciation 
dictionary. I do not read ads myself so perhaps not an issue for me.

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On 4/20/2018 6:41 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:
> On 4/19/2018 9:33 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>I think VO as it stands, handles this properly. I opened a document in 
>> TextEdit and entered several acronyms. VO read them as expected, for example 
>> it reads ACLU as A C L U. There is a setting you might look at in VO 
>> Utility, Verbosity category, Text tab. It's an option that affects how 
>> capital letters are handled.
> But that's single letters. Whenever I run into something in all capital 
> letters, like an advertisement  with capital letters in a double-height 
> double-wide font that says "big big savings" or something similar, I hear 
> this:
> B I G  S A V I N G S
> without the spaces, of course. Every time I read something with the phrase 
> "MAC address," I hear "M A C address." The setting to which you refer is only 
> for single letters. The above examples are the kinds of things I want 
> eliminated.

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Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

[E.T.]

   Sounds like something not easily remedied, perhaps with the 
pronunciation dictionary. I do not read ads myself so perhaps not an 
issue for me.


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On 4/20/2018 6:41 AM, Steve Matzura wrote:

On 4/19/2018 9:33 PM, E.T. wrote:
   I think VO as it stands, handles this properly. I opened a document 
in TextEdit and entered several acronyms. VO read them as expected, 
for example it reads ACLU as A C L U. There is a setting you might 
look at in VO Utility, Verbosity category, Text tab. It's an option 
that affects how capital letters are handled.


But that's single letters. Whenever I run into something in all capital 
letters, like an advertisement  with capital letters in a double-height 
double-wide font that says "big big savings" or something similar, I 
hear this:


B I G  S A V I N G S

without the spaces, of course. Every time I read something with the 
phrase "MAC address," I hear "M A C address." The setting to which you 
refer is only for single letters. The above examples are the kinds of 
things I want eliminated.




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Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

[Jonathan Cohn]

That might have to do with how CSS is set up for those advertisements. If I 
type BIG SAVINGS my VoiceOVer reads the words and not the letters. Though while 
typing it it spoke the letters.

I have on occasion put a word into the pronunciation dictionary that did not 
handle the speaking of letters vs speaking of word pronunciation the way I 
wanted it to. And then while doing HTML editing I added
The string indicating the beginning of a HTML comment to say HTML comment. I 
can remember off hand if I added the equivalent dictionary entry for the end of 
comment marker.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan 

> On Apr 20, 2018, at 9:41 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
> 
> On 4/19/2018 9:33 PM, E.T. wrote:
>>I think VO as it stands, handles this properly. I opened a document in 
>> TextEdit and entered several acronyms. VO read them as expected, for example 
>> it reads ACLU as A C L U. There is a setting you might look at in VO 
>> Utility, Verbosity category, Text tab. It's an option that affects how 
>> capital letters are handled.
> 
> But that's single letters. Whenever I run into something in all capital 
> letters, like an advertisement  with capital letters in a double-height 
> double-wide font that says "big big savings" or something similar, I hear 
> this:
> 
> B I G  S A V I N G S
> 
> without the spaces, of course. Every time I read something with the phrase 
> "MAC address," I hear "M A C address." The setting to which you refer is only 
> for single letters. The above examples are the kinds of things I want 
> eliminated.
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Re: Question about VoiceOver and words in all capital letters

[Steve Matzura]

On 4/19/2018 9:33 PM, E.T. wrote:
   I think VO as it stands, handles this properly. I opened a document 
in TextEdit and entered several acronyms. VO read them as expected, 
for example it reads ACLU as A C L U. There is a setting you might 
look at in VO Utility, Verbosity category, Text tab. It's an option 
that affects how capital letters are handled.


But that's single letters. Whenever I run into something in all capital 
letters, like an advertisement  with capital letters in a double-height 
double-wide font that says "big big savings" or something similar, I 
hear this:


B I G  S A V I N G S

without the spaces, of course. Every time I read something with the 
phrase "MAC address," I hear "M A C address." The setting to which you 
refer is only for single letters. The above examples are the kinds of 
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Re: signing a document in word

[Jonathan Cohn]

hello,

Preview is supposed to have a sign document functionality. 
I don’t remember exactly how it works, but my El Capitan system does have 

Tools->Annotate->Signatures->manage Signatures 

menu item. 

I believe that Tidbits might have described how to do this also in a article 
about a year and a half ago.

Best Wishes,

Jonathan 

> On Apr 20, 2018, at 8:46 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
> 
> Hi Listers,
>  
> I urgently need a solution to a problem with a word document.
>  
> I’ve got 2 job application cover letters and CV to submit before the end of 
> today
>  
> Problem is that the cover letters have been written in MS Word 2016 on a 
> windows notebook 
>  
> Now because I don’t have access to a working printer / scanner to print the 
> letter and sign it then scan it to PDF 
>  
> I need a solution to  being able to sign the cover letters,
>  
> One option I can try is to sign it on my ipad but currently I don’t have word 
> setup or a stylus to sign with  but guess finger would do fine.
>  
>  
> Anyone else got any other possible solutions.
> Anything would be appreciated.
>  
> Cheers 
>  
>  
> Simon f
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signing a document in word

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Listers,

I urgently need a solution to a problem with a word document.

I've got 2 job application cover letters and CV to submit before the end of 
today

Problem is that the cover letters have been written in MS Word 2016 on a 
windows notebook

Now because I don't have access to a working printer / scanner to print the 
letter and sign it then scan it to PDF

I need a solution to  being able to sign the cover letters,

One option I can try is to sign it on my ipad but currently I don't have word 
setup or a stylus to sign with  but guess finger would do fine.


Anyone else got any other possible solutions.
Anything would be appreciated.

Cheers


Simon f

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RE: cutting the cord pitfalls

[Sarai Bucciarelli]

I specifically asked if there would be any limited internet and was told no.

 

Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
  

 

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Did that not get explained to you before the cutting took place?

 

Bugger.

 

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Hi guys:

 

Well as you all remember. I decided to cut the cord and only keep my ATT Uverse 
Internet. Well, it turns out you only get unlimited Uverse Internet if you have 
laland line and tv. If you just have the internet, they cap you. 

Well I work from home, so work takes up all my Internet.

They will not let me bundle Directv Now, nor my cell service, which is through 
ATT with my Internet to create the bundle.

 

aah, the solution according to the ATT reps is to pay for a land line and TV.

I am beyond angry. Sarai D Bucciarelli www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli 
  

 

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RE: Further to earlier mail re playing audio content on my Mac

[Simon Fogarty]

Hi Andy,

On your mac if you do the VO + M  which should bring up your apple menu,
Scrole down this menu
Should be twice and you should find system preferences
 Then once this opens,
Use your tab key to move one by one through the sys pref options,

You will find internet and then an icloud,
Or vise versa

Open the icloud preference and take it from there,

Once you have signed into that feature you should also have a table that with
Vo shift and down arrow open the list / table of different features that icloud 
gives you

Go through them and see if you can disable or add / enable the ones you want / 
don’t want
Tap with the space bar enables / disables.

Hope this helps with the issues and great work sitting down over a pint or 5 
and playing around.

That’s all you need to do,
And slowly things will work out.

Wish I had a bar that close.

Simon F

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Subject: Re: Further to earlier mail re playing audio content on my Mac

Hi Tim Steve and all who have responded to this thread.

Steve got me thinking  about my particular problem, which was confirmed by Tim.

Despite getting the following message:

"Application Alert - System Dialogue -  - This Mac cannot connect to Icloud  
because of a problem with 
meikle.ai...@btinternet.com". "Open System 
Preferences of Icloud to fix this problem"

I was down in the hotel yesterday  attempting once again to go throu these 
steps that Tim recommended.

When I went into extras and wi-fi, the Kilcreggan hotel came up and I was told 
that wi-fi was indeed turned on.

So I spent the rest of the day messing around with Safari and it proved correct 
that my computer was indeed on line., and I learned a lot about surfing the net.


Tim said that the above error message can be prevented from showing up by:

"If the connection to Wi-Fi was already established, but this error message 
appeared anyway, then you'd need to enter the password in System Preferences to 
have it not continue bothering you.  This message was fairly common in El 
Capitan, especially when you didn't use your computer in a while.  There should 
be a button on this error message that will take you directly to the proper 
pane of System Preferences, which is the Internet Accounts pane.  If it does 
not straight away ask you for your iCloud password, then you may need to press 
the Sign Out button then the Sign In button.  I would suggest that this iCloud 
is likely your Apple ID, so you will need to enter the username and password 
for your Apple ID to allow the MacOS to access iCloud services.  As a matter of 
interest, although I don't necessarily recommend it, you could press the 
"Later" button in this error dialog and go on your merry way.  That is, you 
don't need to be signed into these services in order to access FaceTime or 
messages.  You can simply open those apps specifically, enter your Apple ID and 
password and they are ready to use".

I'm trying to find "system preferences" that Tim is talking about and I do have 
my username and password at hand, if asked for them, but again, I cannot seem 
to find where I'm going.

Can someone tell me how to get to System Preferences on my Macbook and where I 
should type in any details that are asked of me.

Sorry once again guys for a lengthy message.

I'm hoping to get professional  help with my Macbook from SITE Glasgow shortly, 
which would sort out all of these problems but I feel that by trying to sort 
them out myself with your help will teach me how the Apple OS works.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
>From Scotland with Love.




- Original Message -
From: Tim Kilburn
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: Further to earlier mail re playing audio content on my Mac

Hi,

Steve is spot on.  This message is not necessarily saying that you are not 
connected to the Internet, it is simply telling you that your login credentials 
for iCloud are not valid at the moment.  It is possible that the problem has 
happened because you actually are not connected to the Internet, which would 
mean that all you need to do is press VO-m-m to access the Extras menu, 
VO-right to the WiFi menu, VO-space on it to open the menu, then VO-down to 
your WiFi network, and finally press VO-space or return to connect to that WiFi 
network.  If you've never been connected to the network in the past, then 
you'll be asked for the password if one was set.  Enter the password and press 
return.  You are now connected to the Internet.  You would then be able to 
access FaceTime and such.

If the connection to WiFi was already established, but this error message 
appeared anyway, then you'd need to enter the password in System Preferences to 
have it not continue bothering you.  This message was 

Re: Further to earlier mail re playing audio content on my Mac

[Anne Robertson]

Hello Andy,
> On 20 Apr 2018, at 09:58, 'andy' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Can someone tell me how to get to System Preferences on my Macbook and where 
> I should type in any details that are asked of me.
> 
> 

Press VO-m to get to the Apple menu, then just use the Down Arrow to get to 
System Preferences. Press Return to open System Preferences.
You may at this point need to stop interacting as you are probably in the tool 
bar. Use VO-Right Arrow to get to Scroll Area and interact. Do VO-Right Arrow 
once, then type “ic” for iCloud. If you hear “iCloud button” press VO-Space and 
you’ll be in the right place.
Cheers,

Anne


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Re: Further to earlier mail re playing audio content on my Mac

['andy' via MacVisionaries]

Hi Tim Steve and all who have responded to this thread.

Steve got me thinking  about my particular problem, which was confirmed by Tim.

Despite getting the following message:

"Application Alert - System Dialogue -  - This Mac cannot connect to Icloud  
because of a problem with meikle.ai...@btinternet.com". "Open System 
Preferences of Icloud to fix this problem"



I was down in the hotel yesterday  attempting once again to go throu these 
steps that Tim recommended.



When I went into extras and wi-fi, the Kilcreggan hotel came up and I was told 
that wi-fi was indeed turned on.



So I spent the rest of the day messing around with Safari and it proved correct 
that my computer was indeed on line., and I learned a lot about surfing the net.





Tim said that the above error message can be prevented from showing up by:



"If the connection to Wi-Fi was already established, but this error message 
appeared anyway, then you'd need to enter the password in System Preferences to 
have it not continue bothering you.  This message was fairly common in El 
Capitan, especially when you didn't use your computer in a while.  There should 
be a button on this error message that will take you directly to the proper 
pane of System Preferences, which is the Internet Accounts pane.  If it does 
not straight away ask you for your iCloud password, then you may need to press 
the Sign Out button then the Sign In button.  I would suggest that this iCloud 
is likely your Apple ID, so you will need to enter the username and password 
for your Apple ID to allow the MacOS to access iCloud services.  As a matter of 
interest, although I don't necessarily recommend it, you could press the 
"Later" button in this error dialog and go on your merry way.  That is, you 
don't need to be signed into these services in order to access FaceTime or 
messages.  You can simply open those apps specifically, enter your Apple ID and 
password and they are ready to use".


I'm trying to find "system preferences" that Tim is talking about and I do have 
my username and password at hand, if asked for them, but again, I cannot seem 
to find where I'm going.



Can someone tell me how to get to System Preferences on my Macbook and where I 
should type in any details that are asked of me.



Sorry once again guys for a lengthy message.



I'm hoping to get professional  help with my Macbook from SITE Glasgow shortly, 
which would sort out all of these problems but I feel that by trying to sort 
them out myself with your help will teach me how the Apple OS works.



Very best wishes.



Andy.

>From Scotland with Love.







  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Kilburn 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2018 3:41 PM
  Subject: Re: Further to earlier mail re playing audio content on my Mac


  Hi,


  Steve is spot on.  This message is not necessarily saying that you are not 
connected to the Internet, it is simply telling you that your login credentials 
for iCloud are not valid at the moment.  It is possible that the problem has 
happened because you actually are not connected to the Internet, which would 
mean that all you need to do is press VO-m-m to access the Extras menu, 
VO-right to the WiFi menu, VO-space on it to open the menu, then VO-down to 
your WiFi network, and finally press VO-space or return to connect to that WiFi 
network.  If you've never been connected to the network in the past, then 
you'll be asked for the password if one was set.  Enter the password and press 
return.  You are now connected to the Internet.  You would then be able to 
access FaceTime and such.


  If the connection to WiFi was already established, but this error message 
appeared anyway, then you'd need to enter the password in System Preferences to 
have it not continue bothering you.  This message was fairly common in El 
Capitan, especially when you didn't use your computer in a while.  There should 
be a button on this error message that will take you directly to the proper 
pane of System Preferences, which is the Internet Accounts pane.  If it does 
not straight away ask you for your iCloud password, then you may need to press 
the Sign Out button then the Sign In button.  I would suggest that this iCloud 
is likely your Apple ID, so you will need to enter the username and password 
for your Apple ID to allow the MacOS to access iCloud services.  As a matter of 
interest, although I don't necessarily recommend it, you could press the 
"Later" button in this error dialog and go on your merry way.  That is, you don 
not need to be signed into these services in order to access FaceTime or 
iMessages.  You can simply open those apps specifically, enter your Apple ID 
and password and they are ready to use.


  HTH.


  Later...


  Tim Kilburn
  Apple Teacher
  Fort McMurray, AB Canada


  On Apr 16, 2018, at 18:22, Steve Matzura  wrote:


  If no one has told you as yet, may I be the 

RE: cutting the cord pitfalls

[Simon Fogarty]

Yeah good thoughts,

It’s interesting that they have plans that you can’t put together in a way that 
would work better for the customer,
I’ve got a similar situation with my mobile provider,

They give me what I want but for one feature,
But it’s not able to be added
If only these providers would play better with us the customers.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Eric Oyen
Sent: Friday, 20 April 2018 2:35 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: cutting the cord pitfalls

well, it might be time to file a complaint with the FCC, FTC and a few other 
places. Then call AT and inform them that if they refuse to work with you, 
you will take your business elsewhere. At that point, I am sure they will 
connect you to customer loyalty dept and try to convince you to stay on. 
Convince them that the only way you will stay on is if you can get the bundle 
you want that allows you full use of your internet.

oh, by the way, record the whole call so that if they fail to cooperate, you 
can take it to some local news investigator. The last thing AT wants just now 
is negative publicity (they are in talks to acquire another multimedia company).

hope this helps.

-eric

On Apr 19, 2018, at 6:50 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote:


Hi guys:

Well as you all remember. I decided to cut the cord and only keep my ATT Uverse 
Internet. Well, it turns out you only get unlimited Uverse Internet if you have 
laland line and tv. If you just have the internet, they cap you.
Well I work from home, so work takes up all my Internet.
They will not let me bundle Directv Now, nor my cell service, which is through 
ATT with my Internet to create the bundle.

aah, the solution according to the ATT reps is to pay for a land line and TV.
I am beyond angry. Sarai D Bucciarelli 
www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli


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RE: cutting the cord pitfalls

[Simon Fogarty]

Did that not get explained to you before the cutting took place?

Bugger.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Sarai Bucciarelli
Sent: Friday, 20 April 2018 1:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: viph...@googlegroups.com
Subject: cutting the cord pitfalls

Hi guys:

Well as you all remember. I decided to cut the cord and only keep my ATT Uverse 
Internet. Well, it turns out you only get unlimited Uverse Internet if you have 
laland line and tv. If you just have the internet, they cap you.
Well I work from home, so work takes up all my Internet.
They will not let me bundle Directv Now, nor my cell service, which is through 
ATT with my Internet to create the bundle.

aah, the solution according to the ATT reps is to pay for a land line and TV.
I am beyond angry. Sarai D Bucciarelli 
www.linkedin.com/in/SaraiDBucciarelli

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