Re: VO Jumping Out of Mail: Was - Improving music app experience

[Brian Hansen]

I’m running the latest MacOS, and it’s doing the same thing to me. I haven’t 
found a pattern to it as of yet, but it seems to be taking place when I delete 
a mail message after reading it.

> On Feb 4, 2022, at 12:31 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Well, VO just jumped out of the Mail app a few seconds ago.  I guarantee that 
> I did not touch the Trackpad.  My left hand wasn’t even on my MBP, and I had 
> just hit the return key to open a Mail message with my right middle finger.  
> All other appendages weren’t even close to the Trackpad.  I also did some 
> testing yesterday and this morning, and even if I do touch the Trackpad 
> purposely with my thumb, it does not jump to the Finder like the behaviour 
> seems to do.
> 
> Oh well, if others can’t duplicate it, it’s just one of those things that 
> happens to some, but not others, and I’m the unlucky one this time :).
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 14:41, Anders Holmberg > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I don’t have that issue as I am using an external keyboard.
>> Just because my hands are quite big I have to use an external one.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 3 feb. 2022 kl. 21:05 skrev Les Kriegler >> >:
>>> 
>>> I would agree with Brad‘s comments here. It is so easy to activate the 
>>> touchpad. I pay attention to it and it still happens on occasion.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 3, 2022, at 9:14 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Correction to my shortcuts:
 
 •cmd-left and cmd-right do the same as using just the left or right 
 arrows.  The difference is that when you add the cmd key, the focus 
 location within the Music window is not as picky.
 • to fast-forward or rewind within a song, add the option key to the 
 above.  That is, cmd-option-left or cmd-option-right.
 
 Later…
 
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Jamf Certified Tech
 Apple Professional Learning Specialist
 Apple Teacher
 (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
> On Feb 3, 2022, at 11:53, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> When it comes to the Search field, I prefer keyboard shortcuts.  So, to 
> search for something, press cmd-f.  This will automatically take you to 
> the search field.  After entering your information, press return.  Often, 
> VO will auto-jump over to the results.  If it doesn’t, try VO-j.
> 
> Some other hits for easier navigation and use:
> 
> • I change the view of my playlists to Song view as I find the columns 
> that are created easier to navigate in/through.
> • use VO-FN-left or VO-FN-right to quickly move to the first or last item 
> in the Music window.  Sometimes, you need to hit the command twice.
> • Use VO-cmd-t to quickly get to the sidebar table.
> 
> Know that there’s tons of keyboard shortcuts in the Music app.  Many of 
> these are not commonly found in menus.
> 
> • space will play/pause the currently selected title.
> • left/right arrow will do previous/next song.
> • cmd-up or cmd-down will turn up/down the volume.
> • press return to start playing when you’re focused on a song you wish to 
> play.
> • press cmd-right and hold to fast-forward within a song, cmd-left to 
> rewind within.
> 
> Note that the above commands do not require VO keys at all, they are 
> simply built-in Music media controls.  Also note that if you’ve moved out 
> of the music app, or if you’ve brought VO focus to certain parts of the 
> Music app screen, these commands may be unresponsive.  Just bring focus 
> close to somewhere where the play button is and they’ll start working 
> again.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later…
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 11:05, Herbie Allen > > wrote:
>> 
>> In regards to the  search, if you VO left back to the side bar and 
>> interact, you can find the search field again and VO space which should 
>> let you write.
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2022, at 11:56, Anders Holmberg >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi!
>>> The focus in general has gone worse.
>>> I can be reading an email and all of a sudden be in safari.
>>> Regarding the music app I don’t know.
>>> I can navigate it just fine by interacting with the sidebar and the 

Re: DTMF entry during a FaceTime call

[Brian Hansen]

Try going into your VO Utilities using VO-F8, then down to Navigation, and make 
sure that the mouse follows the VO cursor. A friend of mine had this same 
problem, and if I’m remembering correctly, this is how we fixed it.

Blessings,

Brian


> On Jun 7, 2018, at 3:25 PM, aliFaisal  wrote:
> 
> Brian,
> When I do this, it just brings up the apple menu.
> Thanks
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Brian Hansen > <mailto:ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> When placing a call on your Mac using FaceTime, once the call is connected 
>> to your bank, or where ever you want to access an automated system, just hit 
>> Shift-VO-Space when the call is connected, and you will be able to manually 
>> enter in digits just as if you were using a regular phone.
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 5, 2018, at 6:05 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
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>>> Is it possible to generate DTMF tones whilst on a FaceTime call, as with a 
>>> telephone keypad?
>>>  
>>> If I call an interactive voice response system, I usually need to be able 
>>> to enter digits and the pound key, at least. I found an indication via a 
>>> Web search that FaceTime supports this, but it didn’t work when I tried it 
>>> by typing digits while the FaceTime window had focus during a call.
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Re: DTMF entry during a FaceTime call

[Brian Hansen]

When placing a call on your Mac using FaceTime, once the call is connected to 
your bank, or where ever you want to access an automated system, just hit 
Shift-VO-Space when the call is connected, and you will be able to manually 
enter in digits just as if you were using a regular phone.

Blessings,

Brian


> On Jun 5, 2018, at 6:05 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
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> Is it possible to generate DTMF tones whilst on a FaceTime call, as with a 
> telephone keypad?
>  
> If I call an interactive voice response system, I usually need to be able to 
> enter digits and the pound key, at least. I found an indication via a Web 
> search that FaceTime supports this, but it didn’t work when I tried it by 
> typing digits while the FaceTime window had focus during a call.
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Re: Question about making phone calls through FaceTime

[Brian Hansen]

Once you’ve connected to your bank, hit VO-Shift-Space. This seems to get 
focus, and then you can enter the numbers like normal.

Blessings,

Brian


> On Apr 20, 2018, at 9:38 PM, Robert Cole  wrote:
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> This does not work.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Apr 20, 2018, at 10:00 PM, E.T.  wrote:
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>>  I have not tried this but after you connect, press the mute button and you 
>> should be able to enter numbers.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> Many believe that we have been visited
>> in the past. What if it were true?
>> 
>>> On 4/20/2018 6:55 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> When making a phone call through my iPhone in FaceTime on my Mac, is there 
>>> a way to use voicemail, banking and other systems that require numbers to 
>>> be entered on the keypad?
>>> It used to be possible to enter numbers on the number row on the keyboard, 
>>> but it seems that in High Sierra this no longer works.
>>> Thanks for any assistance.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Grant
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Re: Weather apps for macOS

[Brian Hansen]

I’m looking for one as well. So far I’ve been having to rely on my local NWS 
web site, but it would be nice to be able to get the weather conditions, 
forecast and severe weather statements at a glance.

Blessings,

Brian


> On Nov 25, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Joe Quinn  wrote:
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> Apologies if this has been asked before ,and feel free to reply List  if it 
> has. What, in everyone’s opinion, is a good and accessible weather 
> application for macOS? CARROT³ weather whether I hear is available on macOS, 
> however I haven’t actually bought it yet. Any others?
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Sports Score Updates On My Mac

[Brian Hansen]

I’m looking for either an application and/or widget that will allow me to setup 
and keep track of my favorite teams, as well as have access to live scores. I 
tried installing the Yahoo Sports app for the Mac, but it seems to be pretty 
much useless. Not to mention, it hasn’t been updated in a few years. I guess 
I’m really looking for the ease and convenience of what I have on the iPhone. 
If there isn’t any kind of app or widget available for the Mac, is there a good 
web alternative without all of the clutter? Any and all help would be greatly 
appreciated.

Blessings,

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Re: Getting Internet Explorer Favorites in to Safari

[Brian Hansen]

The long way may be his only alternative.

Blessings,

Brian

> On Jun 29, 2017, at 7:41 PM, Kliphton Miller <kliph...@icloud.com> wrote:
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> The long way of doing it is just click on each individual one and add them to 
> favorites in safari, otherwise, he would have to get a friend with a PC and 
> export those favorites to a HTML file and then import them into safari.
>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 6:14 PM, Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
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>> There might be a better way, but all I can think of would require a friend 
>> with Windows willing to help.  Windows 7 retains this scheme and I think 
>> Windows 10 does as well but I didn’t use that for long so I am not 
>> completely certain.  If the favorites were copied to a subfolder under the 
>> favorites on another Windows instance, then I think Chrome or Firefox would 
>> be able to import them.  They could then be exported again to a bookmark 
>> file that Safari can import.  But before going to all that trouble I’d just 
>> do a search of the web and see what turns up.
>> 
>>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Brian Hansen <ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A friend of mine has replaced his dead PC with a Mac mini.  He has a backup 
>>> folder containing all of his IE favorites that he would like to some how 
>>> import into Safari so they all don't have to be recreated by hand.  Since 
>>> they were not exported out of IE, they are in their individual files and 
>>> sub-folder structure straight out of Windows XP.  Is there a way to import 
>>> them in and/or copy them into Safari in their present state, or is he just 
>>> out of luck on this one?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Blessings,
>>> 
>>> Brian
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Re: Getting Internet Explorer Favorites in to Safari

[Brian Hansen]

So far, all of my Google searches have come up empty on an alternative way of 
getting the favorites in to Safari.  It seems that unless they’re exported out 
of IE, then there’s no way to get them into Safari.  I would have thought that 
someone would have come up with some kind of third party app to handle the 
conversion process.  Oh well.

Blessings,

Brian

> On Jun 29, 2017, at 5:14 PM, Larry Thacker Jr. <larry.thacker...@gmail.com> 
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> There might be a better way, but all I can think of would require a friend 
> with Windows willing to help.  Windows 7 retains this scheme and I think 
> Windows 10 does as well but I didn’t use that for long so I am not completely 
> certain.  If the favorites were copied to a subfolder under the favorites on 
> another Windows instance, then I think Chrome or Firefox would be able to 
> import them.  They could then be exported again to a bookmark file that 
> Safari can import.  But before going to all that trouble I’d just do a search 
> of the web and see what turns up.
> 
>> On Jun 29, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Brian Hansen <ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> A friend of mine has replaced his dead PC with a Mac mini.  He has a backup 
>> folder containing all of his IE favorites that he would like to some how 
>> import into Safari so they all don't have to be recreated by hand.  Since 
>> they were not exported out of IE, they are in their individual files and 
>> sub-folder structure straight out of Windows XP.  Is there a way to import 
>> them in and/or copy them into Safari in their present state, or is he just 
>> out of luck on this one?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> 
>> Brian
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Getting Internet Explorer Favorites in to Safari

[Brian Hansen]

A friend of mine has replaced his dead PC with a Mac mini.  He has a backup 
folder containing all of his IE favorites that he would like to some how import 
into Safari so they all don't have to be recreated by hand.  Since they were 
not exported out of IE, they are in their individual files and sub-folder 
structure straight out of Windows XP.  Is there a way to import them in and/or 
copy them into Safari in their present state, or is he just out of luck on this 
one?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Blessings,

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Getting Rid of Old Email Addresses That Show Up In the Native Mail App

[Brian Hansen]

Using the latest version of MacOS, how do I get rid of old email addresses that 
pop up when I go to compose a new mail message?  I checked the contact, and the 
correct email address is the only one showing, but when I create a new email 
message, I’m given the choice of the old address, as well as the current one.  
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Re: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?

[Brian Hansen]

Has anyone tried Nord VPN? It's recommended by CNET. 

Blessings,

Brian


> On Apr 2, 2017, at 3:07 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:
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> Try express vpn 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Strife
> Sent: Sunday, 2 April 2017 3:30 PM
> To: macvisionaries 
> Subject: free or paid vpn that works with Voiceover on Mac and iOS?
> 
> Hi everybody. I'm looking for a vpn that is reliable and works with voiceover 
> on OSX, iOS, and any screen reader on windows, although that last point is no 
> big deal either way. Free or a one time license fee would be preferred.
> 
> I've found that express vpn works very well with voiceover but I don't want 
> to pay fourteen dollars a month forever to use it.
> 
> I bought a lifetime subscription to shymo vpn and while the specs are good, 
> it's not working on the older mac that I use for various internet activities.
> 
> Anyways, I tried hide me vpn for mac that didn't even want to launch for some 
> reason, and, I recently tried cyberghost on mac and windows and had no joy on 
> either operating system...
> 
> I see that tiger vpn for mac, iOS, and windows is on sale for $29 for the 
> next two days. I don't see anything about accessibility on any platform 
> anywhere though and don't want to waste more money on a vpn I won't be able 
> to use.
> 
> This price only lasts for the next two days though so I need to make up my 
> mind pretty quickly.
> 
> Has anybody used Tiger vpn and if so, what are your thoughts? Also, any other 
> recommendations would be greatly appreciated!
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> Thanks,
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Sorting Favorites In Safari

[Brian Hansen]

Is there a way to set up a custom sorting of my Safari favorites?  I’ve added a 
couple of new ones, and they seem to be appearing first when I’m tabbing 
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Re: The Native iOS News App: It's Right There Waiting for You

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Hi Mark,

How are you getting around the screen refreshes?  When I open an article, and 
have VO start reading, I’ll hear the sound as if a web page finishes loading 
and VO stops reading.  The only way to get VO to start reading again is to 
start from the beginning of the article.  Other than that, I agree with you.

Blessings,

Brian

> On Mar 16, 2017, at 11:20 AM, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Hello All,
> 
> Recently, in addition to my third-party news apps, I have started using the
> native iOS app on my iPhone.
> 
> The app has really come a long way in terms of being VoiceOver accessible.
> With the built-in notifications settings for many of its news channels, and
> given how easily one can (1) save articles for later viewing and (2) easily
> share articles to popular social media outlets, I am finding it remarkably
> convenient and fun to use.  
> 
> So, give it a try if you have not done so.
> 
> The native iOS news app, it's right there waiting for you.
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Re: ICloud music library discrepancies

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Hi Tim,

That’s interesting.  The videos in question were purchased a few years ago 
through iTunes, and I’m using the same account.

Blessings,

Brian

> On Feb 22, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> If you meant to say "iCloud Music Library" as opposed to just the iTunes 
> Library, then you are correct, sort of.  Music Videos purchased through 
> iTunes are available in the iCloud Music Library when signed in with the same 
> account that they were purchased.  Music Videos acquired in some other manner 
> are not eligible to be uploaded to the iCloud Music Library.  They're able to 
> be imported and stored locally, but just not available for iCloud viewing.
> 
> Later..
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 22, 2017, at 00:02, Brian Hansen <ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> The extra 22 files on my Mac were music videos.  The numbers now match up 
> across the board.  I take it that one cannot add music videos to their music 
> library?  Thanks again for everything.
> 
> Blessings,
> 
> Brian
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> When in iTunes on your Mac, make sure the Music View is by list.  Interact 
>> with the Music table, then VO-right to the column just to the right of the 
>> song title.  It should read something like "Local" or "Download" and/or a 
>> few other choices.  Press VO-shift-back slash to bring VO focus to the 
>> Headers for these columns.  and VO-space on the "iCloud Download" column 
>> heading.  Press VO-shift-back slash again to take VO focus out of the 
>> headers.  Now you should be able to quickly go through the songs navigating 
>> down that specific column.  If it reads "Download" or "Local", then the song 
>> is part of your iCloud Music Library and is either locally stored on your 
>> Mac, or available for download from iCloud.  If it reads "Duplicate", then 
>> you have multiple copies of the same song.  If it reads "Ineligible", then 
>> it is not in a format that is compatible with the iCloud Music Library.  You 
>> should be able to determine the discrepancies from this and go from there.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 21, 2017, at 00:24, Brian Hansen <ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve got a bit of a mystery on my hands.  iTunes on my Mac says that I have 
>> 3945 songs in my music library.  The “Music Tracker” app on my phone reports 
>> that I have 3923 songs in my iCloud music library.  Is there a way to easily 
>> find out which one is actually correct without having to count by hand, or 
>> even worse, start over and rebuild my library from scratch?  Any and all 
>> help would be greatly appreciated on this one.
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> 
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Re: ICloud music library discrepancies

[Brian Hansen]

Hi Tim,

The extra 22 files on my Mac were music videos.  The numbers now match up 
across the board.  I take it that one cannot add music videos to their music 
library?  Thanks again for everything.

Blessings,

Brian

> On Feb 21, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> When in iTunes on your Mac, make sure the Music View is by list.  Interact 
> with the Music table, then VO-right to the column just to the right of the 
> song title.  It should read something like "Local" or "Download" and/or a few 
> other choices.  Press VO-shift-back slash to bring VO focus to the Headers 
> for these columns.  and VO-space on the "iCloud Download" column heading.  
> Press VO-shift-back slash again to take VO focus out of the headers.  Now you 
> should be able to quickly go through the songs navigating down that specific 
> column.  If it reads "Download" or "Local", then the song is part of your 
> iCloud Music Library and is either locally stored on your Mac, or available 
> for download from iCloud.  If it reads "Duplicate", then you have multiple 
> copies of the same song.  If it reads "Ineligible", then it is not in a 
> format that is compatible with the iCloud Music Library.  You should be able 
> to determine the discrepancies from this and go from there.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 21, 2017, at 00:24, Brian Hansen <ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I’ve got a bit of a mystery on my hands.  iTunes on my Mac says that I have 
> 3945 songs in my music library.  The “Music Tracker” app on my phone reports 
> that I have 3923 songs in my iCloud music library.  Is there a way to easily 
> find out which one is actually correct without having to count by hand, or 
> even worse, start over and rebuild my library from scratch?  Any and all help 
> would be greatly appreciated on this one.
> 
> Blessings,
> 
> Brian
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Re: ICloud music library discrepancies

[Brian Hansen]

Thanks Tim.  Hopefully I can solve this mystery.

Blessings,

Brian

> On Feb 21, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> When in iTunes on your Mac, make sure the Music View is by list.  Interact 
> with the Music table, then VO-right to the column just to the right of the 
> song title.  It should read something like "Local" or "Download" and/or a few 
> other choices.  Press VO-shift-back slash to bring VO focus to the Headers 
> for these columns.  and VO-space on the "iCloud Download" column heading.  
> Press VO-shift-back slash again to take VO focus out of the headers.  Now you 
> should be able to quickly go through the songs navigating down that specific 
> column.  If it reads "Download" or "Local", then the song is part of your 
> iCloud Music Library and is either locally stored on your Mac, or available 
> for download from iCloud.  If it reads "Duplicate", then you have multiple 
> copies of the same song.  If it reads "Ineligible", then it is not in a 
> format that is compatible with the iCloud Music Library.  You should be able 
> to determine the discrepancies from this and go from there.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 21, 2017, at 00:24, Brian Hansen <ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I’ve got a bit of a mystery on my hands.  iTunes on my Mac says that I have 
> 3945 songs in my music library.  The “Music Tracker” app on my phone reports 
> that I have 3923 songs in my iCloud music library.  Is there a way to easily 
> find out which one is actually correct without having to count by hand, or 
> even worse, start over and rebuild my library from scratch?  Any and all help 
> would be greatly appreciated on this one.
> 
> Blessings,
> 
> Brian
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Merging Folders

[Brian Hansen]

I have 2 folders that have the same name on two different backup drives.  For 
the most part, they’re about 80% identical, but each of them does contain some 
files and folders that the other doesn’t.  I’d like to merge them into one 
folder, but every time I try to copy them, the only choices I get are “Stop”, 
or “Replace”.  I’ve already found out the hard way that if I choose “Replace” 
then the target folder will be completely deleted and replaced with the source 
folder, and I’ll lose any files or folders that aren’t in the source folder.  
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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ICloud music library discrepancies

[Brian Hansen]

I’ve got a bit of a mystery on my hands.  iTunes on my Mac says that I have 
3945 songs in my music library.  The “Music Tracker” app on my phone reports 
that I have 3923 songs in my iCloud music library.  Is there a way to easily 
find out which one is actually correct without having to count by hand, or even 
worse, start over and rebuild my library from scratch?  Any and all help would 
be greatly appreciated on this one.

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macOS Encryption Questions

[Brian Hansen]

I’m fixing to do a clean install of Sierra on my Mac, and I was wondering 
should I erase the disk using MacOS extended with encryption, or should I use 
file volt after the MacOS is installed?  Also, are there any issues, or 
potential issues I need to be aware of when using either of the above methods? 
Are these 2 different ways of securing my main drive, or do they work in 
conjunction with one another.  I’ve tried looking online, but I haven’t found a 
lot of detailed information, so any and all help would be greatly appreciated.  
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Re: Quickly Identifying the Currently Playing Track In iTunes

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Hi Tim,

Thanks for all of your help, as well as the scripts for iTunes.  I’ve been 
wondering if there was a way to have character and word count scripts.  Thanks 
again for everything.

Blessings,

Brian

> On Feb 9, 2017, at 7:47 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Download the script for this from here:
> 
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6iLRtMzHPEXSzQ2LWNKc3NtVzA?usp=sharing
>  
> <https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6iLRtMzHPEXSzQ2LWNKc3NtVzA?usp=sharing>
> 
> I've made some modifications to the code I found shared by some others.  
> Should do the trick.  It will return the song title and artist and say a few 
> extra things if iTunes is not running or if music is paused/stopped.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 8, 2017, at 20:28, Brian Hansen <ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> A keyboard command like that would be great.
> 
> Blessings,
> 
> Brian
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:jon.c.c...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Is this a command that people would like a keyboard shortcut to do for many 
>> application?
>> 
>> Best wishes,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn 
>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com 
>>> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> It appears that you're in Album view and my suggestion won't work in that 
>>> view.  I suggest that you use a HotSpot instead.  So, when a song is 
>>> playing, interact with the LCD Panel.  Navigate to the title of the song 
>>> that is playing, then press VO-shift-1.  This will set that exact location 
>>> as HotSpot #1.  So, anytime you wish to hear the name of the currently 
>>> playing song, just press VO-1 and VO should read whatever text is at that 
>>> HotSpot location.  the limitation with this method is that the HotSpots are 
>>> usually lost whenever iTunes is quit.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 11:59, Brian Hansen <ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim
>>> 
>>> When I hit CMD-l, VO says, the phrase “current song”, and then album, but 
>>> nothing else after that.  It doesn’t actually announce the song title.
>>> 
>>> Blessings,
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com 
>>>> <mailto:kilbu...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> While in iTunes, you could press cmd-l to move focus to the currently 
>>>> playing song and VO should announce what it is right away.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 11:45, Brian Hansen <ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a built-in keyboard command, or a VO command to quickly find out 
>>>> the name of the currently playing track?  I’ve got a couple of albums that 
>>>> I downloaded that I wanted to know the name and track number of the song I 
>>>> was on.  Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Blessings,
>>>> 
>>>> Brian
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Re: Quickly Identifying the Currently Playing Track In iTunes

[Brian Hansen]

A keyboard command like that would be great.

Blessings,

Brian

> On Feb 8, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn <jon.c.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Is this a command that people would like a keyboard shortcut to do for many 
> application?
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 3:08 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> It appears that you're in Album view and my suggestion won't work in that 
>> view.  I suggest that you use a HotSpot instead.  So, when a song is 
>> playing, interact with the LCD Panel.  Navigate to the title of the song 
>> that is playing, then press VO-shift-1.  This will set that exact location 
>> as HotSpot #1.  So, anytime you wish to hear the name of the currently 
>> playing song, just press VO-1 and VO should read whatever text is at that 
>> HotSpot location.  the limitation with this method is that the HotSpots are 
>> usually lost whenever iTunes is quit.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 11:59, Brian Hansen <ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim
>> 
>> When I hit CMD-l, VO says, the phrase “current song”, and then album, but 
>> nothing else after that.  It doesn’t actually announce the song title.
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> While in iTunes, you could press cmd-l to move focus to the currently 
>>> playing song and VO should announce what it is right away.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 11:45, Brian Hansen <ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is there a built-in keyboard command, or a VO command to quickly find out 
>>> the name of the currently playing track?  I’ve got a couple of albums that 
>>> I downloaded that I wanted to know the name and track number of the song I 
>>> was on.  Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Blessings,
>>> 
>>> Brian
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Re: Quickly Identifying the Currently Playing Track In iTunes

[Brian Hansen]

Hi Tim

When I hit CMD-l, VO says, the phrase “current song”, and then album, but 
nothing else after that.  It doesn’t actually announce the song title.

Blessings,

Brian

> On Feb 8, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> While in iTunes, you could press cmd-l to move focus to the currently playing 
> song and VO should announce what it is right away.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Feb 8, 2017, at 11:45, Brian Hansen <ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Is there a built-in keyboard command, or a VO command to quickly find out the 
> name of the currently playing track?  I’ve got a couple of albums that I 
> downloaded that I wanted to know the name and track number of the song I was 
> on.  Thanks.
> 
> Blessings,
> 
> Brian
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Quickly Identifying the Currently Playing Track In iTunes

[Brian Hansen]

Is there a built-in keyboard command, or a VO command to quickly find out the 
name of the currently playing track?  I’ve got a couple of albums that I 
downloaded that I wanted to know the name and track number of the song I was 
on.  Thanks.

Blessings,

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Appending To The MacOS Clipboard

[Brian Hansen]

Is it possible to append text, graphics and links to the clipboard in macOS 
Sierra, or would I need a 3rd party app, and if a 3rd party app is required, is 
there one that works well with VO?

Thanks.

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Reading of News Articles Using the Actual Twitter Client

[Brian Hansen]

I downloaded the actual Twitter client and installed it on my Mac mini, and I’m 
wondering how to get to the actual articles..  When I’m down-arrowing through 
my timeline, and find a posted article I’m interested in reading, if I hit 
enter on the article all I seem to see is “Tweet Details” or compose a new 
tweet.  Any and all help would be greatly appreciated so I don’t have to run 
and grab my iPhone anytime I want to look at my timeline on Twitter.

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How To Generate a Randomly Sorted Playlist In the Latest iTunes

[Brian Hansen]

I’m hoping someone can give me a bit of help here.  I need to create a playlist 
for all of my wife’s Christmas music.  Is there an easy way to get her hundreds 
of songs into the play list, and then have iTunes generate a randomly sorted 
playlist she can use on her iPhone?  Thanks for any and all help.

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Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

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I’m having the same issue on my end, and it doesn’t seem to be with just mail.  
When looking up stuff in the Apple support web section, I’ve found that at 
times, it's doing the same thing.

Blessings,

Brian

> On Oct 31, 2016, at 3:05 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Each time I tried to access mail, the site would close and I'd have to report 
> that to Apple as diagnostic problem.
>> On 31 Oct 2016, at 18:17, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> After hearing all the chatter here about iCloud, I decided to take a boo 
>> around the site.  Overall, it's not a particularly friendly site for us, but 
>> it is actually usable.  I was able to login, access Settings, Mail, rules 
>> and most things that folks were concerned about.  A couple of things to note:
>> 
>> 1.  Once you pick an app, you usually need to back out of iCloud then 
>> re-interact in order for the new content to be displayed.  That is, for 
>> example, you press on the Mail button, then stop interacting however many 
>> times is needed to be out of the Web Content, then re-interact with the Web 
>> Content and you should be able to navigate the page.
>> 
>> 2.  One app did give me grief, but when I pressed cmd-r to refresh the page, 
>> it was very usable once again.
>> 
>> No, this isn't the best design, but it certainly wasn't impossible to 
>> navigate with VO.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Oct 31, 2016, at 11:00, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> Would that be something for the accessibility team to take care about?
>> Just asking?
>> /A
>>> On 30 Oct 2016, at 18:58, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes it is awful. How can a company that talks such a big game about 
>>> accessibility have such a poorly designed main site. There is now no way 
>>> whats so ever to use universal mail rules. Or edit any of your existing 
>>> mail rules. Just awful. 
 On Oct 30, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
  wrote:
 
 I've never been impressed with iCloud.com
 
 Alas, I can reproduce everything you're saying.
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 Phone: (704) 256-8010.
 - Original Message - From: "Brian Fischler" 
 To: 
 Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 10:50 AM
 Subject: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible
 
 
 Hey all,
 
 Ok the old iCloud website was bad enough but this is ridiculous what they 
 have done with it. Would love to hear if anyone can access mail on the 
 iCloud site so they can create a mail rule. I used to be able to do this 
 and the steps were a little weird but now there is no way to get to mail. 
 I go to iCloud get signed in, go to settings then VO space on settings to 
 switch app. I can get to mail and I VO space on it and it takes me back to 
 the main screen of Find your devices. Please do let me know if anyone 
 knows how to get to mail so I can setup a new mail rule. Thanks,
 
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Re: Strange behaviour when loging-in in OS Sierra

[Brian Hansen]

I completely wiped the drive and started from scratch.  At this point, the only 
thing that isn’t straight from the factory, is my mail settings, and that I’m 
signed in to iTunes.

Blessings,

Brian

> On Oct 29, 2016, at 12:18 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> So when you say you did a clean install,
> You mean you did eraise the previous installation before reinstalling sierra 
> on your mac?
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
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>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Andrew Lamanche
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> Subject: Re: Strange behaviour when loging-in in OS Sierra
>  
> Could you report this to Accessibility?  I have but It would help to have 
> more of us point this out
> On 28 Oct 2016, at 15:40, Brian Hansen <ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> I just did a clean install of Sierra yesterday on my Mac Mini, and lo and 
> behold, now I have the same problem. I've got two login accounts, and it's 
> happening on both of them.
> 
> Blessings,
>  
> Brian
>  
> 
> On Oct 27, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Andrew Lamanche <ioani...@me.com 
> <mailto:ioani...@me.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hm!  I only have one user too.  I am exceedingly worried about this because 
> no one else so far has reported it on the list.  Can it be my mac?
> 
> Andrew
> 
> On 27 Oct 2016, at 19:39, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>  
> I have not noticed this behavior.  Mine boots almost instantly and prompts me 
> for my password.  I have only my single user defined, not sure if that makes 
> a difference.
>  
> On Oct 27, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Andrew Lamanche <ioani...@me.com 
> <mailto:ioani...@me.com>> wrote:
>  
> I've reported this repeatedly to Apple during the testing period.
>  
> I have installed latest OS Sierra on my May 2014 Macbook Pro.  Whenever I 
> shut down my computer and then boot it again, I can't immediately start the 
> log-in process because something prevents VO focusing on the right fields 
> where I can put in my credentials.  Vo keys do not respond.  I've asked a 
> sighted person to tell me whether there's a window covering the log in screen 
> but they have told me that there isn't.  In order to be able to log in, I 
> have to perform the simulated mouse key with vo+shift+spacebar.  Only then 
> will I hear Voiceover say "Users".  This is obviously an irregular behaviour, 
> and I was  wondering whether anybody else on the list have experienced this?
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Andrew
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Re: Strange behaviour when loging-in in OS Sierra

[Brian Hansen]

I just reported the problem, and I was able to include a screen shot, so 
hopefully they might be able to see what we’re missing.

Blessings,

Brian

> On Oct 28, 2016, at 2:54 PM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> +1, I’ll file a report now.
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>> On Oct 28, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Andrew Lamanche <ioani...@me.com 
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>> Could you report this to Accessibility?  I have but It would help to have 
>> more of us point this out
>>> On 28 Oct 2016, at 15:40, Brian Hansen <ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just did a clean install of Sierra yesterday on my Mac Mini, and lo and 
>>> behold, now I have the same problem. I've got two login accounts, and it's 
>>> happening on both of them.
>>> 
>>> Blessings,
>>> 
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Andrew Lamanche <ioani...@me.com 
>>> <mailto:ioani...@me.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hm!  I only have one user too.  I am exceedingly worried about this 
>>>> because no one else so far has reported it on the list.  Can it be my mac?
>>>> 
>>>> Andrew
>>>>> On 27 Oct 2016, at 19:39, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:scott.grana...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have not noticed this behavior.  Mine boots almost instantly and 
>>>>> prompts me for my password.  I have only my single user defined, not sure 
>>>>> if that makes a difference.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Andrew Lamanche <ioani...@me.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:ioani...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've reported this repeatedly to Apple during the testing period.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have installed latest OS Sierra on my May 2014 Macbook Pro.  Whenever 
>>>>>> I shut down my computer and then boot it again, I can't immediately 
>>>>>> start the log-in process because something prevents VO focusing on the 
>>>>>> right fields where I can put in my credentials.  Vo keys do not respond. 
>>>>>>  I've asked a sighted person to tell me whether there's a window 
>>>>>> covering the log in screen but they have told me that there isn't.  In 
>>>>>> order to be able to log in, I have to perform the simulated mouse key 
>>>>>> with vo+shift+spacebar.  Only then will I hear Voiceover say "Users".  
>>>>>> This is obviously an irregular behaviour, and I was  wondering whether 
>>>>>> anybody else on the list have experienced this?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Andrew
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Re: Strange behaviour when loging-in in OS Sierra

[Brian Hansen]

I just did a clean install of Sierra yesterday on my Mac Mini, and lo and 
behold, now I have the same problem. I've got two login accounts, and it's 
happening on both of them.

Blessings,

Brian


> On Oct 27, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
> 
> Hm!  I only have one user too.  I am exceedingly worried about this because 
> no one else so far has reported it on the list.  Can it be my mac?
> 
> Andrew
>> On 27 Oct 2016, at 19:39, Scott Granados  wrote:
>> 
>> I have not noticed this behavior.  Mine boots almost instantly and prompts 
>> me for my password.  I have only my single user defined, not sure if that 
>> makes a difference.
>> 
>>> On Oct 27, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Andrew Lamanche  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've reported this repeatedly to Apple during the testing period.
>>> 
>>> I have installed latest OS Sierra on my May 2014 Macbook Pro.  Whenever I 
>>> shut down my computer and then boot it again, I can't immediately start the 
>>> log-in process because something prevents VO focusing on the right fields 
>>> where I can put in my credentials.  Vo keys do not respond.  I've asked a 
>>> sighted person to tell me whether there's a window covering the log in 
>>> screen but they have told me that there isn't.  In order to be able to log 
>>> in, I have to perform the simulated mouse key with vo+shift+spacebar.  Only 
>>> then will I hear Voiceover say "Users".  This is obviously an irregular 
>>> behaviour, and I was  wondering whether anybody else on the list have 
>>> experienced this?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Andrew
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Re: VoiceOver Verbosity Problems

[Brian Hansen]

Hi Anne,

Well, no luck on this end.  I even tried restoring the VO default settings, and 
reset the PRAM a second time.  The settings definitely aren’t sticking, and I’m 
currently stuck in the high-verbosity setting even though the VO Utility shows 
it set to low.  Anything else I can try, besides a larger hammer?  

Blessings,

Brian

> On Oct 10, 2016, at 1:41 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello Brian,
> 
> We came across a similar problem of settings not sticking in Sierra this 
> weekend with a student of ours. Reinitialising the PRAM fixed the problem.
> If you’re not familiar with this procedure, here’s what to do.
> Shut down your Mac, then hold down the following keys: Command, Option, 
> letter ‘p’ and letter ‘r’. With these four keys held down, press once on the 
> Power button. Keep the four keys held down until you’ve heard the start up 
> chime four times. Your Mac will then boot normally.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 10 Oct 2016, at 06:42, Brian Hansen <ozark.bluesma...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m running the latest release of MacOS Sierra, and I’m running into a bit 
>> of a problem with the default verbosity settings.  For what ever reason, 
>> VoiceOver seems to be stuck in the high-verbosity setting.  I’ve tried  
>> changing it to low, but VO keeps reading and chattering away in the high 
>> verbosity mode.  When I go back into the VO Utility, it still shows that 
>> it’s set to low, but for what ever reason, VO doesn’t seem to know that any 
>> setting has changed.
>> 
>> I’ve tried turning VO off, and then back on again, re-booting the Mac, 
>> restoring the VO defaults in the VO Utilities, and even loading some 
>> completely different settings from my wife’s account.  At this point, 
>> nothing seems to work.  Any and all help or ideas would be greatly 
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> 
>> Brian
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VoiceOver Verbosity Problems

[Brian Hansen]

I’m running the latest release of MacOS Sierra, and I’m running into a bit of a 
problem with the default verbosity settings.  For what ever reason, VoiceOver 
seems to be stuck in the high-verbosity setting.  I’ve tried  changing it to 
low, but VO keeps reading and chattering away in the high verbosity mode.  When 
I go back into the VO Utility, it still shows that it’s set to low, but for 
what ever reason, VO doesn’t seem to know that any setting has changed.

I’ve tried turning VO off, and then back on again, re-booting the Mac, 
restoring the VO defaults in the VO Utilities, and even loading some completely 
different settings from my wife’s account.  At this point, nothing seems to 
work.  Any and all help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Blessings,

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Re: ring tones on iPhone

[Brian Hansen]

I recently ran into the same problem. I had to call Apple, and have them 
re-grant me a download for my missing ringtones.

Blessings,

Brian


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> A crazy question,
>  
> I’ve just re imaged my iPhone 6s+ to try to correct a few odd behaviours
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> What I hadn’t noticed is that ring tones I had purchased from itunes hadn’t 
> been backed up to my itunes backups and now my phone has been setup again I 
> can’t get the ring tones back.
>  
> Does anyone know if there is a way to re download previously purchased tones?
>  
> Any music that was on my phone has come back as has movies and audio books etc
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