Re: Zip Archives

[Brian Howerton]

Praying.
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> On Mar 14, 2024, at 10:24 AM, Herbie Allen  wrote:
> 
> Just open the file and it will create a folder separate from the archive.
> 
>> On Mar 14, 2024, at 05:47, Ian Robinson  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> I want to be able to view the contents of a Zip file without having to 
>> extract it first.
>> 
>> There are plenty of archiving apps in the App Store, but I'm wondering which 
>> ones might work well with VoiceOver.
>> 
>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Ian
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Logos Bible Software Accessibility Status

[Brian Howerton]

Good morning everyone,
Wanted to check the accessibility status of Logos bible software. The last time 
I checked into it, it was still not accessible, but wanted to Check again. 
Thanks everyone,
Brian

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Re: MacCafe (apple pages for Mac edition!)

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Awesome.

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>>> On Apr 24, 2021, at 8:56 AM, Brian Howerton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wanted to check and see if this presentation will be recorded. Thanks so 
>>> much,
>>> Brian
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Apr 24, 2021, at 12:54 AM, kliph miller Sr  
>>>> wrote:
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>>> You asked, and its finally here!
>>> Come join MacCafe, (Apple pages for Mac edition!). This special session is 
>>> dedicated to pages on the Mac.
>>> Trainer Stephanie will walk you threw creating a Document, formatting, 
>>> special effects, and using custom templates, and a whole lot more.  This 
>>> session will take place this Saturday April 24, 2021, at 1:00PM EST, 
>>> 12:00PM CST, 11:00AM MST, and 10:00AM pST.  If in another country ask Siri. 
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Re: MacCafe (apple pages for Mac edition!)

[Brian Howerton]

Wanted to check and see if this presentation will be recorded. Thanks so much,
Brian

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> On Apr 24, 2021, at 12:54 AM, kliph miller Sr  
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> Come join MacCafe, (Apple pages for Mac edition!). This special session is 
> dedicated to pages on the Mac.
> Trainer Stephanie will walk you threw creating a Document, formatting, 
> special effects, and using custom templates, and a whole lot more.  This 
> session will take place this Saturday April 24, 2021, at 1:00PM EST, 12:00PM 
> CST, 11:00AM MST, and 10:00AM pST.  If in another country ask Siri.  If you 
> want to ask something specific send them to 
> stephanie@icloud.com
> sturi...@icloud.com
> Or
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> smoother and with out a hitch.
> We will be using WebEx, if you don’t already have it, download it from here
> For IOS
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> For MacOs
> If you have an M1 Mac, make sure you choose the correct download linkTo join 
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Re: Endnote, wasTraining for Word

[Brian Howerton]

Julie,
How do you do footnotes in pages? Also, how do you set up paragraph styles?

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> On Aug 31, 2019, at 6:48 AM, Julie Rattray  wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I also do research and use pages with endnote - just really getting to grips 
> with it but would be happy to share as I learn if that would be of interest. 
> I can enter bibliographic info into endnote and have also tagged references 
> so I can sort my extensive library according to themes. I am now learning to 
> add citations to a text using pages   
> 
>> On 30 Aug 2019, at 21:10, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I do research, but I generally write it in a text editor in either LaTeX or 
>> Markdown format. In both cases, BibTeX is used to manage citations and 
>> bibliography generation. (The bibliographical entries are stored in text 
>> files in a specific format, from which the citations and bibliography are 
>> automatically generated according to the chosen style.)
>> 
>> I'm not particularly fond of word processors. I prefer to have the markup in 
>> front of me as part of the text, then to generate HTML or PDF from it as 
>> needed.
>> 
>> On 8/30/19, 15:44, "'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries" 
>>  wrote:
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>>   Hi Hem
>> 
>>   I do not.  I don't do academic research any more, so that is not an issue 
>> for me.  But I do believe there are some on this list who do do academic 
>> research, so perhaps they can help.   sorry I can't help.
>>   Best,
>>   Donna
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2019, at 11:25 AM, Hemachandran Karaha  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry for bothering again Donna.
>>> 
>>> Do you use endnote software on Mac for citation purposes? Endnote Software 
>>> is quite accessible with Jaws. Are there other solutions for citation and 
>>> bibliography on Mac? Kindly let me know.
>>> 
>>> I am currently looking at Keyboard shortcuts for Pages. The list is 
>>> actually pretty good!
>>> 
>>> Warmly,
>>> Hem.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
>>> Sent: 30 August 2019 19:44
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Training for Word
>>> 
>>> Hi Hem,
>>> 
>>> I write and teach literature as well, so it sounds like our needs are 
>>> probably pretty similar.  I have had no issues with Pages.  I switch back 
>>> and forth between Word and Pages frequently.
>>> 
>>> As for Scrivener, I never really got into using it.  I can say that I found 
>>> it to be quite accessible, though, so if you like its features, it's well 
>>> worth taking the time to learn the app.  Sorry I can't be more helpful than 
>>> that.
>>> Best,
>>> Donna
>>> 
 On Aug 30, 2019, at 8:58 AM, Hemachandran Karaha  
 wrote:
 
 Hi Donna,
 
 Thanks so much for such a detailed reply. I have an office 365 
 subscription. Perhaps, I will try using the same on the Mac. 
 
 I don't necessarily need complex stuff such as tables and flow charts. I 
 teach English Literature in a University. All I will need is good text 
 formatting and a facility to collaborate with others. I looked up Word 365 
 keystrokes for mac. They look comprehensive. 
 
 I haven't used Scrivener yet. I will be grateful if you could leave a note 
 on the programme.
 
 Warmly,
 Hem.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
 Sent: 30 August 2019 17:32
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Training for Word
 
 Hi Hem,
 
 I have used all three programs: Pages, Scrivener, and Word.  They are all 
 compatible with VO.  I also share your reservations about working across 
 word processors.  I would say, though, that I've been pleasantly surprised 
 with how Pages works with Word documents.  the big thing is that you have 
 to remember to Export to Word rather than save.  I haven't tried to export 
 files with super complex formatting or with tables, but if you are working 
 with a text file, you should have no problem using Pages.  If you decide 
 not to go that route, using word is pretty straight forward.  You can find 
 the commands you need, along with the keyboard shortcuts, in the menus.  
 Note: I use Word 2016 on the Mac, not Word 365, so there may be ways in 
 which that experience differs.
 Best,
 Donna
 
 
> On Aug 30, 2019, at 6:48 AM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Microsoft has introductory articles, such as
> https://support.office.com/en-us/article/use-a-screen-reader-to-explore-and-navigate-word-a16a93f4-163f-4f48-a246-78c2573d8953
> 
> I haven't used Microsoft Word for Mac very much, but it is clear that 
> accessibility with VoiceOver has been improved over time by Microsoft.
> 
> On 8/28/19, 10:20, "Hemachandran Karaha" 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear John and all,
> 
> Is there a training material for Word on the 

Re: My conclusions after a day of messing around with Word

[Brian Howerton]

In pages, what is the equivalent for times new roman font?

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> On Jul 28, 2018, at 5:41 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> So, I've spent most of the day playing around with Word for Mac, and have 
> come to the conclusion that I prefer Pages.  I agree with those who said Word 
> is very accessible.  Microsoft has done a pretty good job with this.  But for 
> my purposes, Pages works better.  A major factor in my decision is that, 
> while you can see changes and comments in Word, you can't tell what text they 
> are linked to.  In Pages on the other hand, this is very clear.  Since that 
> is important for my job, I think Pages will be most useable, and I'll just 
> have to be extra careful about document fonts.
> 
> I just thought I'd post this in case it's of interest to anyone.
> Cheers,
> Donna
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Re: Best ebook reader app and question about ibooks.

[Brian Howerton]

On a related note, for research purposes, how does ibooks on the mac do with 
reading with a braille display connected, this is a particular for finding 
source material when writing research papers like page numbers ET see. Thanks 
for any help

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> On Apr 14, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Leo Bado  wrote:
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> hi everyone,
> 
> Leo here, a new mac user as I told you, using high sierra latest version and 
> I got two questions:
> 
> 
> How do I do for reading contineously on ibooks? I mean without having to 
> forward to tnext pages everytime?
> 
> and secondly,
> 
> is there a good accesible app to read ebooks in my macbook?
> 
> epub, pdf txt, etc.
> 
> 
> thanks for any suggestion or tip.
> 
> 
> 
> Leo Bado
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Microsoft word question

[Brian Howerton]

Hello all,
For those who use word on the Mac, when inserting a footnote, after inserting 
it, where does voice over drop you when you insert the footnote? Does it put 
you where you have to type in the footnote information or do you have to cursor 
around to find that? Hope this makes sense. Microsoft word on the mac question

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Re: Word Processing on the mac

[Brian Howerton]

Hi Anne,
I believe I have your book on pages.  Would there be a way that you could send 
me your lessons on pages?  Do you have those as documents?  In reading the 
chapter on footnotes in pages, I’m a little confused as to how that works, but 
if I had practical examples on how to practice some of these concepts, it would 
help.  Thanks,
Brian

> On Apr 4, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello Brian,
> 
> You should have Pages already on your Mac and it does everything you need for 
> writing papers. I find it easier to use than MS Word but that may be because 
> I’m not used to using Word, not having been a Windows user.
> In Pages, you can set up to 8 shortcuts for applying styles, be they 
> character or paragraph styles which can save a lot of time.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4 Apr 2018, at 13:32, Brian Howerton <bshowert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello folks,
>> What accessible word processors do you recommend for the mac?  This is 
>> particularly for writing papers with paragraph styles, headings, footnotes, 
>> etc.  Trying to find an accessible straightforward easy to use word 
>> processor.  Thanks,
>> Brian
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Word Processing on the mac

[Brian Howerton]

Hello folks,
What accessible word processors do you recommend for the mac?  This is 
particularly for writing papers with paragraph styles, headings, footnotes, 
etc.  Trying to find an accessible straightforward easy to use word processor.  
Thanks,
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Re: Question about installing jaws on my Mac

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Yes I believe it is.

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> On Jan 6, 2018, at 4:56 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
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> Is your jaws version the right one for the licence you have for jaws?
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> Jaws 2018 is different to jaws 18.
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> Hello folks,
> I installed windows 10 on my Mac and then installed jaws. After installing 
> jaws, I activated and everything went great, however after rebooting the 
> computer, jaws brings up the jaws activation dialog again. It has my jaws 
> authorization number in there again and it tells me activation was 
> successful, but it does this everytime. Any thoughts on why the activation is 
> not holding? Looks like jaws professional is being installed and not the home 
> version. But I didn’t see a separate installer for that version. A few years 
> ago I went ahead and switched my SMA to the home one vbut jaws professional 
> is being installed here. Wonder if that is why the activation window keeps 
> coming up. Any thoughts would be welcome.
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Question about installing jaws on my Mac

[Brian Howerton]

Hello folks,
I installed windows 10 on my Mac and then installed jaws. After installing 
jaws, I activated and everything went great, however after rebooting the 
computer, jaws brings up the jaws activation dialog again. It has my jaws 
authorization number in there again and it tells me activation was successful, 
but it does this everytime. Any thoughts on why the activation is not holding? 
Looks like jaws professional is being installed and not the home version. But I 
didn’t see a separate installer for that version. A few years ago I went ahead 
and switched my SMA to the home one vbut jaws professional is being installed 
here. Wonder if that is why the activation window keeps coming up. Any thoughts 
would be welcome.

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Re: Microsoft word 2016 accessibility

[Brian Howerton]

How do paragraph styles work in word on the mac with voiceover 
when writing research papers or advanced documents??Brian


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Word works pretty well.  You may run into a little difficulty with complex 
editing tasks, but most things will work fine.  I found tables a little 
inconsistent. I use custom bullets in one of the documents I create, and 
there’s no way to identify with VO which one I’m selecting.  I’ve also 
discovered that things tend to work better with cursor tracking off.  I can’t 
really speak to how well it compares to Pages, since because of compatibility 
and familiarity I have stuck with Word.

Excel is another matter.  Maybe others who have been using the Mac longer would 
be able to work with it, but I found it nearly impossible.  Navigating the 
screen, though cumbersome, is doable.  Editing cells was another matter.  I 
would try to edit one and end up editing a completely different cell.  I gave 
up on it and imported the sheet to Numbers.

Power Point isn’t so great either.  I have rarely gotten VO to speak while 
trying to edit the contents of an item in a slide.  I have not tried it with 
Keynote.  Mostly what I have to do is small edits on someone else’s work, so I 
put up with it in order to insure that the file I save as a .ppsx will work on 
the Windows laptop where it will be used.

I can’t speak to Outlook, though others on this list say that it works well.

As for which is best, I guess that will depend on what you need to do.  
Everyone here will have an opinion.  

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> Hello folks,
> What is the status of microsoft word 2016 accessibility on the mac, or office 
> for that matter?  Is it usable or is the iWork suite of products still the 
> way to go on the mac?  Thanks,
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Microsoft word 2016 accessibility

[Brian Howerton]

Hello folks,
What is the status of microsoft word 2016 accessibility on the mac, or office 
for that matter?  Is it usable or is the iWork suite of products still the way 
to go on the mac?  Thanks,
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Accessible dj software for the mac

[Brian Howerton]

Hello folks,I am looking in to beginning to dj weddings and private parties. I 
understand that djay pro on the mac is accessible, and i would love to talk 
with anybody who is using it successfully to dj. Also, would love to hear 
suggestions of accessible dj midi controllers that interface well with the 
software, and what works well from a blindness perspective. Feel free to write 
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keyboard question about running windows on my mac

[Brian Howerton]

Hello folks,
I have installed windows on my mac using boot camp so that I can use both 
operating systems.  When in windows, is there a way that I can remap keys on my 
laptop keyboard so that in windows, my option key can become my windows key and 
my command key can become my alt key?  Also if it is possible, I would love my 
right option key to become my applications key if possible.  Thanks for any 
help.  Also, does this only work when I am booted in to windows, because I 
definitely don’t want anything to change on the mac side.  Thanks,
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Re: Logos Bible Software

[Brian Howerton]

Great, thanks mike. How does the logos app work? I tried to read books using 
android app and that didn't work so well on my tablet, was just curious to see 
how the iPhone app worked

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> There is another way to read logos content. Go to http://biblia.com
> The mobile version of the site works much better with screen readers, so as 
> soon as you get to the site, click about biblia and then choose to switch to 
> the mobile view. At this point, sign in with your email address and password. 
> You should then be able to access your content.
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>> Hi folks,
>> I saw that logos bible software has a basic free version.  I tried 
>> downloading to check accessibility progress, but sadly, it is still 
>> inaccessible.  What a shame.  Just thought I would update the accessibility 
>> status.  Voiceover just kept saying “window”  Thanks,
>> Brian
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Logos Bible Software

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Hi folks,
I saw that logos bible software has a basic free version.  I tried downloading 
to check accessibility progress, but sadly, it is still inaccessible.  What a 
shame.  Just thought I would update the accessibility status.  Voiceover just 
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Re: MS Word and VoiceOver

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Are there any podcasts as to how to use it?

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> Office 2016 is very good with voice over on the Mac.  Works very well.
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>> On Aug 29, 2016, at 7:54 AM, becky knaub  wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>> Does MS office 2016 work well with VoiceOver? I have office 2011 at the 
>> moment and it doesn't work very well with voiceover. To the point of it's 
>> not useful at all. Is there anyway I can make word work better on my Mac? 
>> I'm not sure if there are any kind of script or anything I can install? 
>> Thanks for the help.
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Pages template question

[Brian Howerton]

Hello all,
Does anyone know where I might could find a tertian template for pages for 
writing research papers in the tertian writing style format?  Thanks for any 
help.  I’ve been doing some searching online, but thought I would ask here to 
see if anyone knew of anything.  Thanks,
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Re: Pages or OFfice 2016, need your advice

[Brian Howerton]

Great, Thanks Anne.  I will read up on these sections.  I appreciate it.
Brian
> On Jul 3, 2016, at 3:27 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello Brian,
> 
> The best way to go about what you want to do is to create a template for 
> Terabian format. This template would include all the paragraph styles you 
> need with shortcuts to save you time and effort. There are explanations how 
> to create your own templates in chapters 6 Document Setup, 8 Saving, 
> Exporting and Printing Documents, 9 Paragraph Styles, 16 Making Placeholder 
> Text, 26 Creating a blank document template, and 30 Uses for Templates.
> It might take some time to get the template right, but it will save you a lot 
> of time in the end.
> If you find it too difficult, I’m sure we can help you out.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> . . 
> 
>> On 2 Jul 2016, at 19:19, Brian Howerton <bshowert...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:bshowert...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Anne,
>> I have the mac pages book that you wrote, and I had a question on styles.  
>> Can we create our own paragraph styles in pages?  For example, my papers for 
>> grad school need to be written in Terabian format, and so they have 
>> particular ways that headings need to look, so can I create my own heading 1 
>> paragraph style or do you have to modify the styles that are already there.  
>> Hope this makes sense.  Thanks for the awesome book!
>> Brian
>>> On Jul 2, 2016, at 9:16 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk 
>>> <mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello Ramy,
>>> 
>>> I don’t know whether you can easily do the things you need to do using Word 
>>> 2016 for Mac, but they can all be done using Pages.
>>> Along with my husband, Archie, I wrote a book on Pages which explains how 
>>> to do all the things you need. You can buy it for $35 US from:
>>> <http://mosen.org/mymacpages/ <http://mosen.org/mymacpages/>>
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2 Jul 2016, at 14:19, Ramy Moustafa <ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:ramy.moustaf...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello all:
>>>> 
>>>> after i finish my master, on windows, i decided to use my mac for any
>>>> future researches.
>>>> i was using an old version of office  because i can do everything that
>>>> i need. but i need to update.
>>>> so, what is your recommendation? in the 2 cases i will start learning
>>>> on mac, but what is the best to study, pages or office on mac?
>>>> i need some complex issues, like creating styles,
>>>> using foot notes, incerting tables, etc, not just writing a simple 
>>>> document.
>>>> so any help will be highly abbrecitated to guide me on my future use of 
>>>> mac.
>>>> Thanks
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
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>>>> Faculty ofmusical education
>>>> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
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Re: Pages or OFfice 2016, need your advice

[Brian Howerton]

Hello Anne,
I have the mac pages book that you wrote, and I had a question on styles.  Can 
we create our own paragraph styles in pages?  For example, my papers for grad 
school need to be written in Terabian format, and so they have particular ways 
that headings need to look, so can I create my own heading 1 paragraph style or 
do you have to modify the styles that are already there.  Hope this makes 
sense.  Thanks for the awesome book!
Brian
> On Jul 2, 2016, at 9:16 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Ramy,
> 
> I don’t know whether you can easily do the things you need to do using Word 
> 2016 for Mac, but they can all be done using Pages.
> Along with my husband, Archie, I wrote a book on Pages which explains how to 
> do all the things you need. You can buy it for $35 US from:
> >
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2 Jul 2016, at 14:19, Ramy Moustafa > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all:
>> 
>> after i finish my master, on windows, i decided to use my mac for any
>> future researches.
>> i was using an old version of office  because i can do everything that
>> i need. but i need to update.
>> so, what is your recommendation? in the 2 cases i will start learning
>> on mac, but what is the best to study, pages or office on mac?
>> i need some complex issues, like creating styles,
>> using foot notes, incerting tables, etc, not just writing a simple document.
>> so any help will be highly abbrecitated to guide me on my future use of mac.
>> Thanks
>> 
>> -- 
>> Ramy MoustafaSaber
>> Music instructor @:
>> Faculty ofmusical education
>> Music arranger and Sound engineer @:
>> Harmony Recording Studio
>> https://www.facebook.com/HarmonyRecordingStudio.eg 
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word processing question

[Brian Howerton]

Hello folks,
Just want to get people’s opinions on what word processor is best for the mac.  
Trying to learn pages, but am familiar with word a little more, and I need to 
write papers for a class in grad school.  How is the current state of 
accessibility for microsoft office on the mac?  Just curious to see what others 
are using for word processing.
Brian

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Re: I thought Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac was suppose to be accessible

[Brian Howerton]

Thanks for this man, I appreciate it.  Did you download from the mac app store 
or from their website?  I did download it, but the only thing that I saw that 
was dimmed was the footnote feature.  Thought that was strange though, but 
didn’t know if you could shed any light on this.  I’ve just been having a look 
around.  Looks very accessible with voiceover.  I am assuming that I can go 
ahead and hide the ruler since it looks like every thing you need is in the 
menus.  Are you able to actually create your own paragraph styles like you 
could in microsoft word?  For example, for my papers in college, I have to 
write in Terabian format, so was wondering if I could create paragraph styles 
for my default paragraph style and also for my heading styles and things like 
that.  For citations and bibliographies, I am assuming that you have to 
manually create your own citations and bibliography/works cited page.  Looks 
very good though with voiceover.  I was very impressed.  I could see myself 
using this over pages possibly.  Is there a manual to learn how to use the word 
processor?  I read the read me first document, but was curious to see if there 
was a manual for learning how to use it.  Thanks for recommending and turning 
me on to this.  I had never heard of it before.  Much appreciated.
Brian
> On Jun 4, 2016, at 9:22 PM, sadam ahmed <sadam.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Brian,
> 
> iText Express will do what you want.
> 
> I too use it for college.
> 
> Here's the Mac App Store description:
> 
> iText Express is a cute, intuitive, and refined text editor with simple word 
> processing completely rewritten in Cocoa. iText Express provides the simplest 
> way to make gorgeous manuscripts on your Mac!
> 
> iText Express has lots of functional and attractive features it shares with 
> word processor, besides giving good vibes by fully complying with Mac OS X. 
> iText Express blends seamlessly into the OS X environment, and will continue 
> to grow with the power of Mac OS X.
> 
> iText Express follows the original simplicity of Macs, and perfectly covers 
> every feature of TextEdit basics and Microsoft(R) Word compatibility as well.
> 
> iText Express even supports still more lovely features including 
> header/footer, footnotes/endnotes, page layout and numbers, multiple columns, 
> hyperlinks, bookmarks, and vertical writing, yet is so much easier to use.
> 
> iText Express will definitely make your writing a pleasure. Remarkable for 
> anyone who expects a reliable simple word processor for Mac OS X
> 
> Any more questions feel free to write back.
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> On 5/06/2016 10:55 AM, Brian Howerton wrote:
>> Hi Sadam,
>> I am trying to learn pages myself, but can you tell me a little more about 
>> Itext express?  I am assuming that it is another word processor option.  
>> Currently, I am in grad school right now, and am looking for something that 
>> will allow me to do pretty advanced formatting for papers such as foot notes 
>> and citations and bibliographies, like I said I do know that pages will work 
>> for me, but was just curious to hear about this option.  Thanks so much,
>> Brian
>>> On Jun 4, 2016, at 8:32 PM, sadam ahmed <sadam.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Office on the Mac is accessible however no where as good as the Windows 
>>> version.
>>> 
>>> There always going to prioritize the   Windows client first.
>>> 
>>> For working with documents I use the excellent Pages or iText express.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Sadam Ahmed
>>> 
>>> On 5/06/2016 9:42 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>>> Hi Ladies,
>>>> 
>>>> Tha'ts officece 2011 for the mac and office 2013 for the windows platform.
>>>> 
>>>>  No office 2011 and earlier versions of office on the mac were not 
>>>> accessible with voiceover,
>>>>  Office 2016 is meant to be accessible but I've not tried it myself,
>>>> 
>>>>  The issues were due I believe to how the mac versions of office were 
>>>> coded, MS hadn't taken accessibility in to account.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
>>>> Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2016 4:05 AM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: I thought Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac was suppose to be 
>>>> accessible
>>>> 
>>>>  There was never any claim made for the accessibility of

Re: I thought Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac was suppose to be accessible

[Brian Howerton]

Hi Sadam,
I am trying to learn pages myself, but can you tell me a little more about 
Itext express?  I am assuming that it is another word processor option.  
Currently, I am in grad school right now, and am looking for something that 
will allow me to do pretty advanced formatting for papers such as foot notes 
and citations and bibliographies, like I said I do know that pages will work 
for me, but was just curious to hear about this option.  Thanks so much,
Brian
> On Jun 4, 2016, at 8:32 PM, sadam ahmed  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Office on the Mac is accessible however no where as good as the Windows 
> version.
> 
> There always going to prioritize the   Windows client first.
> 
> For working with documents I use the excellent Pages or iText express.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Sadam Ahmed
> 
> On 5/06/2016 9:42 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>> Hi Ladies,
>> 
>> Tha'ts officece 2011 for the mac and office 2013 for the windows platform.
>> 
>>  No office 2011 and earlier versions of office on the mac were not 
>> accessible with voiceover,
>>  Office 2016 is meant to be accessible but I've not tried it myself,
>> 
>>  The issues were due I believe to how the mac versions of office were coded, 
>> MS hadn't taken accessibility in to account.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Sunday, 5 June 2016 4:05 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: I thought Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac was suppose to be 
>> accessible
>> 
>>  There was never any claim made for the accessibility of office 2013 on the 
>> Mac. Unless you misspoke and meant  2016, your complaint has no basis in 
>> reality, since the inaccessibility of all previous office versions on the 
>> Mac was well known and much complain about.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 4, 2016, at 8:59 AM, Cheree Heppe  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cheree Heppe here:
>>> I purchased MS Office 2013, a purchase I continue to regret.
>>> It's my guess that totally blind testers are scarce in Microsoft cosmology, 
>>> while partially sighted testers who meet the legal definition of blindness 
>>> and make directors and managers comfortable around blindness, work for what 
>>> looks modern, without letting the function paradigm trouble the waters 
>>> overly much.
>>> Universal accessibility for them becomes a floating, situational impediment 
>>> instead of a standard.
>>> Of course, such dodging and compromising significantly impacts consumer 
>>> productivity, giving blind users who pay full price for such programs as 
>>> Microsoft's offerings, three-fifths of the access.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 3, 2016, at 18:26, Jeffrey Shockley  wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Glad it works for you. :)
 Just FYI, if you go to the Help menu in any of the Office Apps and type 
 “Accessibility” in the search box, you will get a page telling about all 
 the Accessibility features in each Office app, and what works and what 
 doesn’t currently work, if anything, with assistive technology, including 
 VoiceOver, in this case.
 Hope this helps,
 Jeffrey
> On Jun 3, 2016, at 8:42 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> My bad as for some reason it took awhile for th first excel doc to open. 
> Strange as it was an image for five minutes then the doc appeared. 
> Definitely weird, but seems to be working now.
>> On Jun 3, 2016, at 8:31 PM, Brian Fischler  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey all,
>> 
>> Curious as I thought I had read that Microsoft Office 2016 for Mac was 
>> accessible? I am running the latest build of El Cap, and I got 
>> everything installed, and just tried opening a excel document and all 
>> VoiceOVer keeps reading is image image image. Nothing will get me out of 
>> it not return, VO space, tab. Any ideas? Thanks,
>> 
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Re: VR stream and mac

[Brian Howerton]

So I take it that we are able to use the vr stream on the Mac?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 1, 2016, at 8:20 PM, Sadam Ahmed  wrote:
> 
> After having some problems with my Streams SD card I formatted on the Mac. 
> 
> Now all is working as it should. 
> 
> Give that a go. 
> 
> Kindest regards, 
> 
> Sadam Ahmed 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2 May 2016, at 3:19 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
>> 
>> I recommend erasing the drive and having the Sream re-format it. Some 
>> formats that work for Windows and Linux are not as supported on the 
>> Macintosh. Perhaps formatting as FAT or FAT 32 with Disk Utility will get it 
>> to be readable on both systems. Also, there are a couple of different 
>> SD-Card types depending on the capacity and perhaps speed of the drive. It 
>> might be that the card itself is not compatible with your card reader. In 
>> this case, disk utility would not see the card either. I believe an external 
>> card reader would help with this issue.
>> 
>> Good Luck,
>> 
>> Jonathan Cohn 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 1 May 2016, at 12:16, Georgina Joyce  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> Even in my Mac Mini’s SD Card slot seems to be temperamental. The only way 
>>> that hasn’t failed so far is to hook up the stream to the Mac using the USB 
>>> lead and leaving the card in the stream and then turning on the stream. But 
>>> then I have problems in ejecting the stream when I’ve finished loading my 
>>> files. It’s a flaky routine but it can be done.
>>> 
>>> HTH
>>> 
>>> Gena
>>> 
>>> 
 On 1 May 2016, at 17:01, Carter Temm  wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Surely I’, not the only one who’s asked or wondered about this. Is there a 
 way to put content on the BR stream using the mac? I’m almost sure this is 
 something I’ve done before, but when ever I insert my SD card, it says 
 something like this device was not readable by this computer.
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Re: Cannot find an accessible bible library. Need help!

[Brian Howerton]

Hi Vinny, so how would that work?  I would purchase a logos package, and then I 
could access it from the IOS app?  This is awesome, so it sounds like that the 
iOS app is completely accessible?  For the option online how would I access the 
books online?  Is it a matter of signing up for an account once the package was 
purchased.  I’m so glad Logos is accessible.  This is great news.  Are there 
any plans as to making the mac app accessible?  Has Logos indicated that could 
happen?  I remember I contacted their sales, and the guy basically told me to 
download the demo and see what I could access via the mac app.  This is great 
though that iOS is accessible.  Thanks Vinny, would love to hear more about 
this,
Brian
> On Apr 18, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Vinny Pedulla <vinnypedu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon everyone,
> Actually you have two choices currently:
> The first choice is using logos. You can access all your logos books online 
> or use the iOS apps. They are accessible and even support braille in Hebrew 
> and Greek.
> The second choice you have is to contact Optasia  ministry at 
> http://optasiaministry.org <http://optasiaministry.org/>/ 
> <http://optasiaministry.org/>
> and speak to Tom Vos. He distributes a textbased library of resources that 
> you can load onto any computer or portable note taker. He's constantly 
> upgrading all the resources and has a very vast library that he can send out 
> on a DVD for you to load onto whatever platform you choose.
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Vinny
> Email: vinnypedu...@gmail.com <mailto:vinnypedu...@gmail.com>
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Vinny
> Email: vinnypedu...@gmail.com <mailto:vinnypedu...@gmail.com>On Apr 18, 2016, 
> at 11:22 AM, Brian Howerton <bshowert...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:bshowert...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Chuck,
>> Can you give a little more info on accordance?  I know Logos bible software 
>> used to be accessible, but from what I have been told, it is not now.  I am 
>> working on my master’s in music and worship now and have to take some bible 
>> courses, it would be nice to have access to logos or something like it like 
>> accordance?  Thanks Chuck,
>> Brian
>>> On Apr 18, 2016, at 11:03 AM, CHUCK REICHEL 
>>> <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com <mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Percy & all,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Contact Helen Brown <he...@accordancebible.com 
>>> <mailto:he...@accordancebible.com>>
>>> 
>>> and ask her whats the status with accordance on the  mac using VoiceOver?
>>> I also encourage all those on the list to do the same as she might think 
>>> I'm the only one out here that would like to use accordance again! ;)
>>> Last time we spoke she said VoiceOver  was on the radar and coming soon. :)
>>> HTH
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> CHUCK REICHEL
>>> soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com <mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com>
>>> www.SoundPictureRecording.com <http://www.soundpicturerecording.com/>
>>> 954-742-0019
>>> Isaiah 26 : 3
>>>  Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because 
>>> he trusteth in thee.
>>> 
>>> In GOD I Trust
>>> 
>>> On Apr 17, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Percy Garrett wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi, I have downloaded biple pro, desktop bible and 
>>>> accordance to my Mac. The  desktop bible has limited accessibility and the 
>>>> others seem to allow no accessibility. There are tons of unlabled and 
>>>> nonresponsive buttons. Any good suggestion will be appreciated. I am 
>>>> trying to leave the windows based computers and go all of the way with the 
>>>> Mac, but locating an accessible bible library is prohibiting my progress.
>>>> Percy Garrett
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> From: David Griffith <mailto:daj.griff...@gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2016 4:20 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Problem with Logging On after Update.
>>>>  
>>>> I hope that my earlier email came through explaining in detail what I 
>>>> found and the eventual solution.
>>>> In brief you have to treat the user group element on the logon as a 
>>>> unannounced button on the logon screen.
>>>> 
>>>> The problem was caused by a login required after a maintnance

Re: Cannot find an accessible bible library. Need help!

[Brian Howerton]

Chuck,
Can you give a little more info on accordance?  I know Logos bible software 
used to be accessible, but from what I have been told, it is not now.  I am 
working on my master’s in music and worship now and have to take some bible 
courses, it would be nice to have access to logos or something like it like 
accordance?  Thanks Chuck,
Brian
> On Apr 18, 2016, at 11:03 AM, CHUCK REICHEL  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Percy & all,
> 
> 
> Contact Helen Brown  >
> 
> and ask her whats the status with accordance on the  mac using VoiceOver?
> I also encourage all those on the list to do the same as she might think I'm 
> the only one out here that would like to use accordance again! ;)
> Last time we spoke she said VoiceOver  was on the radar and coming soon. :)
> HTH
> Chuck
> 
> CHUCK REICHEL
> soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com 
> www.SoundPictureRecording.com 
> 954-742-0019
> Isaiah 26 : 3
>  Thou wilt keep him in perfect peace, whose mind is stayed on thee: because 
> he trusteth in thee.
> 
> In GOD I Trust
> 
> On Apr 17, 2016, at 6:09 PM, Percy Garrett wrote:
> 
>> Hi, I have downloaded biple pro, desktop bible and 
>> accordance to my Mac. The desktop bible has limited accessibility and the 
>> others seem to allow no accessibility. There are tons of unlabled and 
>> nonresponsive buttons. Any good suggestion will be appreciated. I am trying 
>> to leave the windows based computers and go all of the way with the Mac, but 
>> locating an accessible bible library is prohibiting my progress.
>> Percy Garrett
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: David Griffith 
>> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2016 4:20 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: Problem with Logging On after Update.
>>  
>> I hope that my earlier email came through explaining in detail what I found 
>> and the eventual solution.
>> In brief you have to treat the user group element on the logon as a 
>> unannounced button on the logon screen.
>> 
>> The problem was caused by a login required after a maintnance update which 
>> required a restart.
>> I have never before encountered this screen before when I have agreed any  
>> OS maintenance update. Normally after an update the Mac restarts into the 
>> updated OS without any intervention on my part.
>> 
>> . On this latest update though the update stalls and will not complete 
>> unless you start Voiceover manually and log in using the instructions I 
>> posted earlier.
>> Now the update has completed hopefully this problem will disappear.
>> David Griffith
>> 
>> On 17/04/2016 21:32, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> I have the latest update on my I Mac and Mac Mini and I have never seen the 
>>> screen that David has referred to.  However, if a login screen did come up, 
>>> I have it set like my work windows machine, where I put in my name and 
>>> password.  Other than that, if I don’t do that, then it would
>>> automatically log me in.  I’m sure you can set your login in preferences if 
>>> you go to usernames and accounts can’t you?
>>>  
>>> As stated before, I haven’t encountered many bugs as I did a clean install 
>>> before I put Elcap on both machines.
>>>  
>>> Kawal.
 On 17 Apr 2016, at 17:35, Jonathan Cohn < 
 jon.c.c...@gmail.com 
 > wrote:
  
 David,
 
 Just to be clear, the only options available are Password, Shutdown, 
 reboot?
 
 What does VO-F1 say for this screen.
 
 What happens if you type escape.
 
 Best wishes,
 
 Jonathan
 
 
 
> On 17 Apr 2016, at 11:47, David Griffith  > wrote:
> 
> dthanks - I was not  clear enough in my explanation ofthe issue.
> This problem suddenly appeared after a normal maintenance  update today, 
> not a install of any kind.
> In addition my User account is identical to my apple ID so there should 
> not be any issue there.
> However on this new logon screen, which has appeared in defiance of my 
> system settings not to require a log on,  and which has never appeared 
> before, there is nowhere that voiceover sees to enter a User ID. The only 
> visible to Voiceover edit box is just the password field.
> After entering this you are then locked into just sleep, shutdown and 
> restart as your options.
> I strongly recommend that that people do not install this update if this 
> is the consequence.
> I remember a Mac friend ringing me to complain about this issue which 
> occured for him also some time ago so it may be a rogue bug in the OS, it 
> is certainly annoying.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> On 

Re: VLC accessibility

[Brian Howerton]

Yes, very accessible.  Not sure why VO was silent for you.  It works great here.
Brian
> On Mar 14, 2016, at 2:17 PM, Chris Moore  wrote:
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> Hello,
> Has anyone used VLC on the mac?  I just tried it, and voiceOver was silent.
> 
> Chris
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solving captchas on the mac

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Hello all,
Is there a software package that will allow me to solve captchas on the mac for 
free?  Thanks,
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Hello all,
How do I go about deleting bookmarks I have saved in safari?  Thanks for the 
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braille display commands for the mac

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Hello all,
I am trying to use my braille display with the mac.  Where can I see a list of 
commands or hear a podcast demonstrating them. I would like to start using my 
braille display on my mac to control the mac.  Thanks for the help.
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Re: my impressions of El Capitan

[Brian Howerton]

Definitely is a choice.
Brian
> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:17 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I am still on Yosemite. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this new way of 
> interaction simply a choice? If so, that would seem to be the best of all 
> worlds, since people who like it can have it, and those who can't don't have 
> to. I can certainly see times when it would be better to do the new way. And 
> for people coming to the Mac, having to do all that interaction is kind of a 
> pain in the whatever.
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>> 
>> Yeah, I am definitely a fan of the standard way of voiceover interaction.  
>> Trying the new ways seems weird to me after being used to the standard way 
>> for so long.
>> Brian
>>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey everyone, thanks for the kind words about the upgrade pod cast, glad 
>>> you enjoyed it.
>>> el Capitan works well, the only bug I've found is, in finder windows such 
>>> as the hard drive or your home folder, if you hide the tool bar, that 
>>> setting does not stick, at least not when using list view. I've tried the 
>>> new way of not interacting with items such as tool bars, but, honestly I 
>>> prefer the previous way of handling this. When using the new settings, you 
>>> have to navigate over every item in a tool bar to get past it, with the 
>>> standard setting, you can simply skip what you're not interested in. I 
>>> wasn't sure if system integrity protection would cause any problems, but so 
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Re: my impressions of El Capitan

[Brian Howerton]

Yeah, I am definitely a fan of the standard way of voiceover interaction.  
Trying the new ways seems weird to me after being used to the standard way for 
so long.
Brian
> On Dec 16, 2015, at 2:13 PM, Mike Arrigo  wrote:
> 
> Hey everyone, thanks for the kind words about the upgrade pod cast, glad you 
> enjoyed it.
> el Capitan works well, the only bug I've found is, in finder windows such as 
> the hard drive or your home folder, if you hide the tool bar, that setting 
> does not stick, at least not when using list view. I've tried the new way of 
> not interacting with items such as tool bars, but, honestly I prefer the 
> previous way of handling this. When using the new settings, you have to 
> navigate over every item in a tool bar to get past it, with the standard 
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> system integrity protection would cause any problems, but so far it hasn't 
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mail question

[Brian Howerton]

Hello all,
I have been running my mac in column mode, and when I am in mail, I can’t press 
right arrow to open up a thread of messages and uncollapse the disclosure 
triangle.  Can someone tell me how to do this if there is another way?  It used 
to be I could press right arrow to open up the conversation thread and then I 
could read all the messages in that thread.  How would I do this?  I am running 
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Re: mail question

[Brian Howerton]

Brandon,
I actually don’t use the trackpad.  This is so weird that it is doing this.
Brian
> On Dec 1, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Brandon A. Olivares (The Pianist) 
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> Sometimes it works to double tap on the thread.
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>> On Dec 1, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Brian Howerton <bshowert...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:bshowert...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> I have been running my mac in column mode, and when I am in mail, I can’t 
>> press right arrow to open up a thread of messages and uncollapse the 
>> disclosure triangle.  Can someone tell me how to do this if there is another 
>> way?  It used to be I could press right arrow to open up the conversation 
>> thread and then I could read all the messages in that thread.  How would I 
>> do this?  I am running the latest OS.  Thanks,
>> Brian
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Re: mail question

[Brian Howerton]

Chris,
I just tried that, and the mac just bonged at me.
Brian
> On Dec 1, 2015, at 8:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
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> Let's confirm.  Brian is referring to the mac, not to I O S.  Beware.
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Brian Howerton <mailto:bshowert...@gmail.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:19 AM
>> Subject: Re: mail question
>> 
>> Brandon,
>> I actually don’t use the trackpad.  This is so weird that it is doing this.
>> Brian
>>> On Dec 1, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Brandon A. Olivares (The Pianist) 
>>> <thepianist2...@gmail.com <mailto:thepianist2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sometimes it works to double tap on the thread.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> On Dec 1, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Brian Howerton <bshowert...@gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:bshowert...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I have been running my mac in column mode, and when I am in mail, I can’t 
>>>> press right arrow to open up a thread of messages and uncollapse the 
>>>> disclosure triangle.  Can someone tell me how to do this if there is 
>>>> another way?  It used to be I could press right arrow to open up the 
>>>> conversation thread and then I could read all the messages in that thread. 
>>>>  How would I do this?  I am running the latest OS.  Thanks,
>>>> Brian
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Re: mail question

[Brian Howerton]

I think I am on the standard view.  I will try VO space and see if that 
works.I’m getting ready to go in a meeting, but maybe I can give you a call 
when I get out.
Brian
> On Dec 1, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I presume that you are not using Quicknav?  Secondly, try vo+Space.  One more 
> thing is, make sure that you're on the first message within the thread.  
> Being that it's not expanding for you in the first place, I'd presume that 
> you are.
>  
> Are you using classic view, or just the standard layout.
>  
> I'm not sure how much help I'll be, but I'm up, so, if you wanna call me, I 
> can see if we can figure this out.  No guarantees though.
>  
> Chris.
>  
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Brian Howerton <mailto:bshowert...@gmail.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:24 AM
>> Subject: Re: mail question
>> 
>> Chris,
>> I just tried that, and the mac just bonged at me.
>> Brian
>>> On Dec 1, 2015, at 8:20 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Let's confirm.  Brian is referring to the mac, not to I O S.  Beware.
>>>  
>>> Chris.
>>>  
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Brian Howerton <mailto:bshowert...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:19 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: mail question
>>>> 
>>>> Brandon,
>>>> I actually don’t use the trackpad.  This is so weird that it is doing this.
>>>> Brian
>>>>> On Dec 1, 2015, at 8:12 AM, Brandon A. Olivares (The Pianist) 
>>>>> <thepianist2...@gmail.com <mailto:thepianist2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sometimes it works to double tap on the thread.
>>>>> 
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>>>>> Brandon Olivares
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Brian Howerton <bshowert...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:bshowert...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>> I have been running my mac in column mode, and when I am in mail, I 
>>>>>> can’t press right arrow to open up a thread of messages and uncollapse 
>>>>>> the disclosure triangle.  Can someone tell me how to do this if there is 
>>>>>> another way?  It used to be I could press right arrow to open up the 
>>>>>> conversation thread and then I could read all the messages in that 
>>>>>> thread.  How would I do this?  I am running the latest OS.  Thanks,
>>>>>> Brian
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Re: accessible braille translation software for the mac

[Brian Howerton]

What is the website where I can take a look at this?  Thanks,
Brian
> On Nov 25, 2015, at 11:56 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   Louis Braille Translator
> <http://www.cucat.org/projects/louis/>
> 
>   I have looked at it but have not yet tried embossing with this software 
> which is free by the way.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 11/25/2015 8:45 AM, Scott Berry wrote:
>> Hello there,
>> 
>> There sure was.  I don’t think there is anything now though.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 25, 2015, at 6:50 AM, Brian Howerton <bshowert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> Is there an accessible braille translation software for the mac similar to 
>>> Duxbury that will allow me to emboss documents from the mac?  Thanks,
>>> Brian   
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accessible braille translation software for the mac

[Brian Howerton]

Hello all,
Is there an accessible braille translation software for the mac similar to 
Duxbury that will allow me to emboss documents from the mac?  Thanks,
Brian   

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Re: Spotify question

[Brian Howerton]

Thanks Chris, I will try this.  I appreciate the help.
Brian
> On Nov 24, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah,
> 
> Nothing's coming up the way you're describing to search.  I'm sure that the 
> songs are there though in general.
> 
> This may be one of those times when you have to Google the songs, then once 
> you get the list, search for them on Apple Music individually.  I know it 
> might really stink doing it that way, but it may be your best option.  And, 
> once you get the list, you could find them on ITunes and add them to a CCLI 
> playlist.  That's personally what I'd do.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Brian Howerton" <bshowert...@gmail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 2:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Spotify question
> 
> 
> I guess they are, but CCLI I guess posts them on spotify.  He said if I did a 
> search for CcLI top 100 on spotify, they would come up.  Not sure if that is 
> true with apple music or not.
> Brian
>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Are those arrangements not on Apple Music?
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Brian Howerton" <bshowert...@gmail.com>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 2:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: Spotify question
>> 
>> 
>> Hey Chris,
>> Sad to hear this.  Really, I wanted to be able to access spotify for 
>> work-related things.  They have the Christian copyright licensing top 100 
>> songs out there, and I wanted to be able to keep up with that through 
>> spotify and also be able to hear the arrangements of the songs on there 
>> using it.  Another friend of mine who is a worship leader told me about 
>> this, and said if I had spotify I could access this.  Oh well,
>> Brian
>>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good luck!  I've never been able to get it to work, and on the Windows 
>>> side, with the Spottify Blind scripts for JAWS, it's honestly hardly any 
>>> better. And, the guy who wrote the scripts never responds to any of the 
>>> tech support requests I send him, and never returns my phone calls either. 
>>> Plus he over charges for the things, tremendously!  $49 just for the darn 
>>> scripts? Unless he's moved that down, that's what they used to be.
>>> 
>>> Just to keep things on topic and Apple related, I'll just say, honestly, 
>>> Brian, you and Bonnie would be way better off getting set up with Apple 
>>> Music and pass by Spottify.  Is there a particular reason why you wanted 
>>> that over Apple Music, being they're both about the exact same price, and 
>>> both have about the same selection?
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Brian Howerton" <bshowert...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 1:01 PM
>>> Subject: Spotify question
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> I was wondering if spotify is accessible on the mac.  I downloaded the app, 
>>> and tried to use voiceover keys to navigate, but did not look like I could 
>>> do anything in the app.  The only thing I could use were the menus. Is 
>>> anyone on the list using spotify?  Thanks,
>>> Brian
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accessible media player app to play FLAC files

[Brian Howerton]

Hello folks,
The subject says it all.  I am looking for an accessible mac app that lets me 
play FLAC files.  I have some on my mac that I need to listen to, but I didn’t 
know iTunes doesn’t play those right off the bat without converting them.  
Really would rather just listen to the FLAc files as they are.  Thanks,
Brian

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Re: Spotify question

[Brian Howerton]

I think I have your new number, but text me just to make sure.  I wanted to 
text you about something else anyway, so text me so I can make sure I have your 
number.  Thanks,
Brian
> On Nov 24, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> You should have my number, so give me a call, if you need any one on one 
> further help.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> ----- Original Message - From: "Brian Howerton" <bshowert...@gmail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 2:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Spotify question
> 
> 
> Thanks Chris, I will try this.  I appreciate the help.
> Brian
>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah,
>> 
>> Nothing's coming up the way you're describing to search.  I'm sure that the 
>> songs are there though in general.
>> 
>> This may be one of those times when you have to Google the songs, then once 
>> you get the list, search for them on Apple Music individually.  I know it 
>> might really stink doing it that way, but it may be your best option.  And, 
>> once you get the list, you could find them on ITunes and add them to a CCLI 
>> playlist.  That's personally what I'd do.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Brian Howerton" <bshowert...@gmail.com>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 2:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: Spotify question
>> 
>> 
>> I guess they are, but CCLI I guess posts them on spotify.  He said if I did 
>> a search for CcLI top 100 on spotify, they would come up.  Not sure if that 
>> is true with apple music or not.
>> Brian
>>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are those arrangements not on Apple Music?
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message - From: "Brian Howerton" <bshowert...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 2:22 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Spotify question
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hey Chris,
>>> Sad to hear this.  Really, I wanted to be able to access spotify for 
>>> work-related things.  They have the Christian copyright licensing top 100 
>>> songs out there, and I wanted to be able to keep up with that through 
>>> spotify and also be able to hear the arrangements of the songs on there 
>>> using it.  Another friend of mine who is a worship leader told me about 
>>> this, and said if I had spotify I could access this.  Oh well,
>>> Brian
>>>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck!  I've never been able to get it to work, and on the Windows 
>>>> side, with the Spottify Blind scripts for JAWS, it's honestly hardly any 
>>>> better. And, the guy who wrote the scripts never responds to any of the 
>>>> tech support requests I send him, and never returns my phone calls either. 
>>>> Plus he over charges for the things, tremendously!  $49 just for the darn 
>>>> scripts? Unless he's moved that down, that's what they used to be.
>>>> 
>>>> Just to keep things on topic and Apple related, I'll just say, honestly, 
>>>> Brian, you and Bonnie would be way better off getting set up with Apple 
>>>> Music and pass by Spottify.  Is there a particular reason why you wanted 
>>>> that over Apple Music, being they're both about the exact same price, and 
>>>> both have about the same selection?
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Brian Howerton" <bshowert...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 1:01 PM
>>>> Subject: Spotify question
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> I was wondering if spotify is accessible on the mac.  I downloaded the 
>>>> app, and tried to use voiceover keys to navigate, but did not look like I 
>>>> could do anything in the app.  The only thing I could use were the menus. 
>>>> Is anyone on the list using spotify?  Thanks,
>>>> Brian
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Re: accessible media player app to play FLAC files

[Brian Howerton]

Thanks Matthew, I can get this from the mac app store right?  Is this free?  I 
seem to remember it being free.
Brian
> On Nov 24, 2015, at 3:04 PM, Matthew Dierckens <matt.dierck...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Brian,
> VLC media player will play so many file formats that I don’t find it 
> necessary to use ITunes for playing media anymore.
> Give it a shot, if you need help feel free to write e.
> 
>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 15:03, Brian Howerton <bshowert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello folks,
>> The subject says it all.  I am looking for an accessible mac app that lets 
>> me play FLAC files.  I have some on my mac that I need to listen to, but I 
>> didn’t know iTunes doesn’t play those right off the bat without converting 
>> them.  Really would rather just listen to the FLAc files as they are.  
>> Thanks,
>> Brian
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Spotify question

[Brian Howerton]

Hello all,
I was wondering if spotify is accessible on the mac.  I downloaded the app, and 
tried to use voiceover keys to navigate, but did not look like I could do 
anything in the app.  The only thing I could use were the menus.  Is anyone on 
the list using spotify?  Thanks,
Brian

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Re: Spotify question

[Brian Howerton]

Hey Chris,
Sad to hear this.  Really, I wanted to be able to access spotify for 
work-related things.  They have the Christian copyright licensing top 100 songs 
out there, and I wanted to be able to keep up with that through spotify and 
also be able to hear the arrangements of the songs on there using it.  Another 
friend of mine who is a worship leader told me about this, and said if I had 
spotify I could access this.  Oh well,
Brian
> On Nov 24, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Good luck!  I've never been able to get it to work, and on the Windows side, 
> with the Spottify Blind scripts for JAWS, it's honestly hardly any better. 
> And, the guy who wrote the scripts never responds to any of the tech support 
> requests I send him, and never returns my phone calls either.  Plus he over 
> charges for the things, tremendously!  $49 just for the darn scripts? Unless 
> he's moved that down, that's what they used to be.
> 
> Just to keep things on topic and Apple related, I'll just say, honestly, 
> Brian, you and Bonnie would be way better off getting set up with Apple Music 
> and pass by Spottify.  Is there a particular reason why you wanted that over 
> Apple Music, being they're both about the exact same price, and both have 
> about the same selection?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Brian Howerton" <bshowert...@gmail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 1:01 PM
> Subject: Spotify question
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> I was wondering if spotify is accessible on the mac.  I downloaded the app, 
> and tried to use voiceover keys to navigate, but did not look like I could do 
> anything in the app.  The only thing I could use were the menus.  Is anyone 
> on the list using spotify?  Thanks,
> Brian
> 
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Re: Spotify question

[Brian Howerton]

I guess they are, but CCLI I guess posts them on spotify.  He said if I did a 
search for CcLI top 100 on spotify, they would come up.  Not sure if that is 
true with apple music or not.
Brian
> On Nov 24, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Are those arrangements not on Apple Music?
> 
> Chris.
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Brian Howerton" <bshowert...@gmail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 2:22 PM
> Subject: Re: Spotify question
> 
> 
> Hey Chris,
> Sad to hear this.  Really, I wanted to be able to access spotify for 
> work-related things.  They have the Christian copyright licensing top 100 
> songs out there, and I wanted to be able to keep up with that through spotify 
> and also be able to hear the arrangements of the songs on there using it.  
> Another friend of mine who is a worship leader told me about this, and said 
> if I had spotify I could access this.  Oh well,
> Brian
>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 2:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Good luck!  I've never been able to get it to work, and on the Windows side, 
>> with the Spottify Blind scripts for JAWS, it's honestly hardly any better. 
>> And, the guy who wrote the scripts never responds to any of the tech support 
>> requests I send him, and never returns my phone calls either. Plus he over 
>> charges for the things, tremendously!  $49 just for the darn scripts? Unless 
>> he's moved that down, that's what they used to be.
>> 
>> Just to keep things on topic and Apple related, I'll just say, honestly, 
>> Brian, you and Bonnie would be way better off getting set up with Apple 
>> Music and pass by Spottify.  Is there a particular reason why you wanted 
>> that over Apple Music, being they're both about the exact same price, and 
>> both have about the same selection?
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> - Original Message - From: "Brian Howerton" <bshowert...@gmail.com>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2015 1:01 PM
>> Subject: Spotify question
>> 
>> 
>> Hello all,
>> I was wondering if spotify is accessible on the mac.  I downloaded the app, 
>> and tried to use voiceover keys to navigate, but did not look like I could 
>> do anything in the app.  The only thing I could use were the menus. Is 
>> anyone on the list using spotify?  Thanks,
>> Brian
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Re: biblical greek on the mac

[Brian Howerton]

No problem Andrew.  That definitely helps though.  Right now I am digging in to 
a greek text in braille.  I am very overwhelmed by the greek braille code.  I 
wish there was a supplemental greek braille code manual that I could use while 
trying to learn Greek.  Right now, I am struggling trying to understand how the 
greek braille code works.
Brian
 On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:25 PM, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Brian,
 
 I speak modern Greek and there's no problem with that because:
 1.  AssistiveWare.com has a modern Greek voice Dimitris, which is very good, 
 2. and Apple provides a modern Greek voice Melina and Nikos.  Mac also has a 
 modern Greek keyboard layout as well as ancient Greek keyboard which you can 
 add to your keyboards.
 
 You can change both keyboards and voices on the fly.
 
 I don't think that ancient / biblical Greek is going to work with these 
 voices because the letters with the diacritic marks that are used are not 
 recognised by Voiceover nor by any other voices mentioned above.  But do 
 check it out yourself.  you can easily add Apple's Greek voices to the 
 selection of voices on the mac, activate the appropriate keyboard and confirm 
 this.  I had no success with it when I got a piece of biblical text from 
 somebody.
 
 I'm sorry not to have better news for you.
 
 Andrew
 On 15 Jul 2015, at 20:11, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I am trying to teach myself new testament greek.  I was wondering if anyone 
 has tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover.  Just was 
 curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations 
 and things like that.  Thanks,
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biblical greek on the mac

[Brian Howerton]

Hello all,
I am trying to teach myself new testament greek.  I was wondering if anyone has 
tested learning a biblical language on the mac with voiceover.  Just was 
curious to see how that might work with voiceover as far as pronunciations and 
things like that.  Thanks,
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Re: here is an extremely! in depth walkthrough of Apple Music on the Mac with ITunes

[Brian Howerton]

Great tutorial Chris, thanks for this.
Brian

Sent from my iPhone

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 This is very very in depth!
  
 I hope you all are able to get something out of this.
  
 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16962268/AMusicMac.mp3
  
 Chris.
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logos bible software 6 with voiceover on the mac

[Brian Howerton]

Hello all,
I am thinking about purchasing logos bible software 6 for the mac.  I’m going 
to make the first payment and give it a test run with voiceover, but I was 
wondering if anyone has had a go with it with voiceover.  I know that a 
previous version was accessible, and the sales person I spoke with was familiar 
with voiceover.  I also posted to the logos bible software forums to see if 
anyone has had a gone with it with voiceover on the mac, but so far no 
response.  Has anyone on here played with it?  When I get it and have a chance 
to play with it, I will report on the accessibility of it.  I’m getting ready 
to start seminary in the fall, so being able to use logos bible software for 
school would be absolutely amazing.  
Brian

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Re: safari and bookmark question

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Thanks Chris,
I heard my phone ringing, but couldn’t get to it.  We are on vacation so am 
spending time with the family at the moment, but if I can’t figure it out, I 
will give you a call.  Thanks,
Brian
 On Jun 21, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Brian,
 
 I just both called, and texted you.  You must be heading out for church. 
 Anyway, I'd be more than happy to help you with this, if you'd like to give 
 me a jingle.
 
 The main thing is, you have to go into your bookmarks manager. 
 Command+option+B.
 
 If you can't figure it out from there, I'll be available both all evening, 
 and all night, so call me if you need a hand.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 6:18 PM
 Subject: safari and bookmark question
 
 
 Hello all,
 I am trying to figure out how to delete bookmarks in safari on the mac.  I 
 have tried several things but nothing is working.  I am running yosemite. 
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safari and bookmark question

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Hello all,
I am trying to figure out how to delete bookmarks in safari on the mac.  I have 
tried several things but nothing is working.  I am running yosemite.  Thanks,
Brian

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Re: safari and bookmark question

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Thanks man, it worked like a charm.  I appreciate it.
Brian
 On Jun 21, 2015, at 6:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Absolutely, Brian.  Just go to your bookmark manager: command+option+B within 
 Safari.  Then find your table, and interact with it.
 
 Find the bookmark you need, then hit your backspace key on it, A K A, your 
 delete key.
 
 Bam!  It's gone.
 
 Realize that if you sync with ICloud, this'll delete it from your IPhone and 
 your IPad as well.  When you're done, just hit command+option+B again to hide 
 the bookmark manager.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 6:26 PM
 Subject: Re: safari and bookmark question
 
 
 Thanks Chris,
 I heard my phone ringing, but couldn’t get to it.  We are on vacation so am 
 spending time with the family at the moment, but if I can’t figure it out, I 
 will give you a call.  Thanks,
 Brian
 On Jun 21, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 
 I just both called, and texted you.  You must be heading out for church. 
 Anyway, I'd be more than happy to help you with this, if you'd like to give 
 me a jingle.
 
 The main thing is, you have to go into your bookmarks manager. 
 Command+option+B.
 
 If you can't figure it out from there, I'll be available both all evening, 
 and all night, so call me if you need a hand.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 6:18 PM
 Subject: safari and bookmark question
 
 
 Hello all,
 I am trying to figure out how to delete bookmarks in safari on the mac. I 
 have tried several things but nothing is working.  I am running yosemite. 
 Thanks,
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Re: IOS 9 siri voices now available

[Brian Howerton]

Is this beginning in IOS 9?
Brian
 On Jun 9, 2015, at 1:41 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
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 That's kind a what I thought too, but oh well.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Joe Quinn jdawg1...@gmail.com
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 Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 12:48 PM
 Subject: Re: IOS 9 siri voices now available
 
 
 Didn't what you just said violate the NDA with apple? I Masan I thought you 
 weren't supposed to say _anything about the betas
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 9, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Yuma Decaux jamy...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 Just to let you know that Siri voices are now available to use as standard 
 voice over too. This is cool as it normalises the experience between asking 
 siri stuff and voice over. Or let’s say voice over is now siri :)
 
 Cheers,
 
 
 
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microsoft office question

[Brian Howerton]

Hello all,
I am getting ready to start working on my master’s this fall, and I was 
wondering if anyone knew of any good training resources for learning word, 
excel, and powerpoint.  In word, I have never been great with formatting and 
making things look professional, and I would love to be able to get a good 
handle on that before starting to write papers.  I will be using the mac when 
office 2016 becomes available.  Right now, I am working with the preview, but I 
would like to learn how to do some of this before classes start so I am not 
fighting the software.  Just would like to brush up on my office skills.  
Thanks,
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Re: microsoft office question

[Brian Howerton]

Thanks Eileen,
Yeah, I saw tat link.  It looks good.  I guess there are no mac tutorials yet 
for the office products as they have recently become accessible.  But I guess I 
would be able to transfer windows instructions to the mac.
Brian
 On May 19, 2015, at 3:21 PM, Eileen eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 So do you want tutorials that are Mac based to learn the Office Suite 
 products? On the Windows side, I can't recommend more CathyAnne Merthers 
 tutorials. In my opinion, they are the best for the PC side. the link to her 
 website is:
 
 www.blindtraining.com
 
 The tutorials are not inexpensive, but it has gotten me up and running 
 quickly, especially when Win 8.1 was released and using Office 2013 when it 
 was installed on BootCamp on my MacBook Air. HTH. 
 
 Eileen 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 19, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 I am getting ready to start working on my master’s this fall, and I was 
 wondering if anyone knew of any good training resources for learning word, 
 excel, and powerpoint.  In word, I have never been great with formatting and 
 making things look professional, and I would love to be able to get a good 
 handle on that before starting to write papers.  I will be using the mac 
 when office 2016 becomes available.  Right now, I am working with the 
 preview, but I would like to learn how to do some of this before classes 
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Burning a Cd

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Hello all,
Is there a way to burn an audio cd without doing it through iTunes?  Thanks,
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Re: pages and key note documentation

[Brian Howerton]

Hi Sadam,
Thank you so much for this, I really appreciate it.  Now I can read with my 
braille display even easier with this.  I had purchased this book from the 
Ibooks store, but it is o much easier to read and learn in braille and with 
speech, so thanks for these.
Brian
 On Apr 15, 2015, at 7:25 AM, sadam Ahmed sadamahmed1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, 
 
 The book is available at the following link: 
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9nz3kh2unwhvfq9/AABORiSRrjypo9VsCqApBV3ha?dl=0 
 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9nz3kh2unwhvfq9/AABORiSRrjypo9VsCqApBV3ha?dl=0. 
 
 I hope this is of some use. 
 
 Kind regards, 
 
 Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 
 
 B.A. Business Information Systems 
 
 RMIT University 
 
 — 
 
 
 
 
 On 15 Apr 2015, at 8:54 pm, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net 
 mailto:apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Hello Brian,
 
 look for „Mastering the Macintosh with VoiceOver“ in the iBooks Store. 
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 14.04.2015 um 22:02 schrieb Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com 
 mailto:bshowert...@gmail.com:
 
 Hello all,
 Does anyone have any documentation on the use of pages and key note with 
 voiceover?  I know that there are training opportunities out there for the 
 use of these software solutions with voiceover, but I am really just 
 looking for some documentation that I can go through independently to learn 
 the software.  Preferably for pages, how to go about formatting research 
 papers for my upcoming start to my master’s degree this fall, and for key 
 note, how to use it to create presentations.  Thanks for the help,
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Pages documentation

[Brian Howerton]

Hello,
This message is for Sadam.  You had sent me a dropbox link for the mastering 
the mac with voiceover book, and for some reason when I tried to download, it 
downloaded the dropbox html files   Can you try resending that to me?  What do 
I need to click on when I open up that dropbox link to download the files?  
Maybe I did something wrong.  Thanks,
Brian

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Re: pages and key note documentation

[Brian Howerton]

Got it to download.  Thanks,
Brian
 On Apr 15, 2015, at 10:49 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 OK, but is this more geared toward learning the mac in a whole, or is this 
 specifically for what he I think wants, more something specifically directed 
 toward learning Pages and Keynote.
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: sadam Ahmed mailto:sadamahmed1...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 7:25 AM
 Subject: Re: pages and key note documentation
 
 Hi, 
 
 The book is available at the following link: 
 
 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9nz3kh2unwhvfq9/AABORiSRrjypo9VsCqApBV3ha?dl=0 
 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9nz3kh2unwhvfq9/AABORiSRrjypo9VsCqApBV3ha?dl=0. 
 
 I hope this is of some use. 
 
 Kind regards, 
 
 Sadam Mohammed Ahmed 
 
 B.A. Business Information Systems 
 
 RMIT University 
 
 — 
 
 
 
 
 On 15 Apr 2015, at 8:54 pm, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net 
 mailto:apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Hello Brian,
 
 look for „Mastering the Macintosh with VoiceOver“ in the iBooks Store. 
 
 All the best
 Jürgen
 
 Am 14.04.2015 um 22:02 schrieb Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com 
 mailto:bshowert...@gmail.com:
 
 Hello all,
 Does anyone have any documentation on the use of pages and key note with 
 voiceover?  I know that there are training opportunities out there for the 
 use of these software solutions with voiceover, but I am really just 
 looking for some documentation that I can go through independently to 
 learn the software.  Preferably for pages, how to go about formatting 
 research papers for my upcoming start to my master’s degree this fall, and 
 for key note, how to use it to create presentations.  Thanks for the help,
 Brian
 
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pages and key note documentation

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Hello all,
Does anyone have any documentation on the use of pages and key note with 
voiceover?  I know that there are training opportunities out there for the use 
of these software solutions with voiceover, but I am really just looking for 
some documentation that I can go through independently to learn the software.  
Preferably for pages, how to go about formatting research papers for my 
upcoming start to my master’s degree this fall, and for key note, how to use it 
to create presentations.  Thanks for the help,
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external keyboard question

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Hello all,
I am at work right now, and I do not have my apple keyboard with me.  I have an 
external windows keyboard.  How do I remap my control and option keys so they 
are next to each other.  I have done this a long time ago but forgot where to 
go.  Thanks for the help,
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Re: Logos Bible Software

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It definitely is shame that this is not accessible on the mac because I know at 
one time, it was accessible with a few workarounds.  What a shame.  I am 
getting ready to start seminary in the fall so I could really use this during 
my master’s degree.
Brian
 On Apr 1, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Emilio emilio.s.hernan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 While these Bible sites are fine, they all are completely reliant on the 
 Internet, which is something I do not want to be completely tethered to.
 I am interested in a program that will allow me to download the content, so I 
 may have access to information without needing to connect to the Internet. 
 This would prove especially useful when I am in areas where Internet access 
 is not available. Contrary to modern first-world belief, the Internet is not 
 ubiquitous.
 It is a shame however, that Logos is not voiceover accessible because this 
 software package seems ideal for edification.
 
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message question on the mac

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Hello all,
If I am trying to send a message from my mac in reply to a text message in the 
messages app, how do I go about sending the message?  I tried pressing return, 
but that didn’t seem to work.  Thanks for the help,
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Re: message question on the mac

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Hi John,
Thanks for that, I got it to work.
Brian
 On Mar 31, 2015, at 11:08 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Return should work on the Mac.  You are seeing the conversation history on 
 the Mac?  Do you receive any error message when you press the return key?
 
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 Lion
 
 AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE
 
 MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT
 
 
 
 
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 Hello all,
 If I am trying to send a message from my mac in reply to a text message in 
 the messages app, how do I go about sending the message?  I tried pressing 
 return, but that didn’t seem to work.  Thanks for the help,
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Re: message question on the mac

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Thanks Tim, it worked.
Brian
 On Mar 31, 2015, at 11:13 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Pressing return is exactly what you need to do.  If it is an iMessage, it 
 should just automatically send.  If it was originally a text from a non-Apple 
 device user, then your Mac will be attempting to use the Continuity feature 
 whereby it routes the message through your iPhone but it will still be a 
 text.  In the latter case, you need to ensure that your iPhone is on and 
 connected to the same WiFi network.  If the message is in reply to an 
 iMessage, then it could be a network thing with your Mac.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 31, 2015, at 09:03, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 If I am trying to send a message from my mac in reply to a text message in 
 the messages app, how do I go about sending the message?  I tried pressing 
 return, but that didn’t seem to work.  Thanks for the help,
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text edit question

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Hello all,
I just went to open up text edit, and when I opened the app, it opened it up to 
the open file screen.  I would like it to come up with the ned document button, 
like it normally does.  How can I fix this?  It looks like it is assuming that 
I want to open up a file or a recently opened file or something.  Thanks for 
the help,
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Re: Itunes question

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Where do I go in iTunes to find this?  Thanks,
Brian
 On Mar 25, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Just open your account in iTunes and follow the propmpts which will take you 
 to your payment data which you can change.
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
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 Just a quick iTunes question.  Where do I go either in iTunes or the app 
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Re: Help with getmacapps.com.

[Brian Howerton]

It did not work for me either.
Brian
 On Mar 25, 2015, at 9:50 AM, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:
 
 Hi!
 Not in my terminal.
 /A
 25 mar 2015 kl. 10:03 skrev Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com:
 
 Paste in OS X is actually command-V. This should apply in the Terminal.
 
 On 25/03/2015 08:56, Anders Holmberg wrote:
 Hi!
 Ok, so now i have been trying the getmac apps but it does not work properly 
 for me.
 I have picked apps and clicked install these.
 Then i copied the code from the textfield but i can not paste it in 
 terminal.
 Not with shift command c.
 Not with command c either.
 Any thoughts?
 Thanks.
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Itunes question

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Hello all,
Just a quick iTunes question.  Where do I go either in iTunes or the app store 
to delete a credit card that I have been using and add another one instead.  
Thanks for the help,
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Re: Itunes question

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Thanks Tim,
Brian
 On Mar 25, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 When navigating in iTunes, VO-right just past the “up Next” button and you 
 should note a “Store Account” button.  VO-space on it then go into the HTML 
 area to do the rest.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 25, 2015, at 08:24, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com 
 mailto:bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Where do I go in iTunes to find this?  Thanks,
 Brian
 On Mar 25, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net 
 mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Just open your account in iTunes and follow the propmpts which will take you 
 to your payment data which you can change.
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
 On Mar 25, 2015, at 8:13 AM, Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com 
 mailto:bshowert...@gmail.com wrote:
 
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 Just a quick iTunes question.  Where do I go either in iTunes or the app 
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Re: new member

[Brian Howerton]

Hey man,
I will definitely try to give you a call today.  I got your new work number 
from the PT access list, so I will save it.  By the way, random question, but I 
am going to be upgrading to pro tools 11 today, and I was wondering, do you 
happen to know the price of the upgrade?  I am having a hard time finding it on 
sweet water’s website.
Brian
 On Mar 23, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Brian,
 
 Welcome!
 
 So glad you found the list.  Hope you're doing well.
 
 Give me a call some time!  Let's catch up.
 
 Chris.
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 - Original Message - From: Brian Howerton bshowert...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 10:47 AM
 Subject: new member
 
 
 Hello all,
 I am a new member to this list, and I am looking forward to learning from 
 each one on the list, and hopefully contributing my self.  I have had my mac 
 for a couple of years now, but recently, I have decided to switch exclusively 
 to using a mac.  I absolutely love the OS, and that it just works.  It is 
 such a clean operating system in my opinion.  Anyway, just wanted to 
 introduce myself and say hello.  Thanks,
 Brian
 
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a few mac questions before starting school this fall

[Brian Howerton]

Hello all,
Since I have decided to switch to the mac permanently now, I am getting ready 
to start my master’s this fall, and I had really just one question I guess.  In 
text edit, has anyone used this to write papers and things like that for 
school?  Can you do headers and footers and footnotes and things like that, or 
do I need to get pages for this?  If I need to get pages, how accessible is it, 
and are there any tutorials on using that, or numbers or key note with 
voiceover?  Just trying to get a good handle on some of these apps before 
starting school this fall.  I don’t want to be fighting voiceover while trying 
to get assignments done.  Thanks for the help,
Brian

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new member

[Brian Howerton]

Hello all,
I am a new member to this list, and I am looking forward to learning from each 
one on the list, and hopefully contributing my self.  I have had my mac for a 
couple of years now, but recently, I have decided to switch exclusively to 
using a mac.  I absolutely love the OS, and that it just works.  It is such a 
clean operating system in my opinion.  Anyway, just wanted to introduce myself 
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Brian

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Re: iPhone 4 or 4S

[Brian Howerton]

Hello Jim,
Of course I am sure you know, that on the 4S you have Siri- the personal 
assistant.  You can send texts with your voice, manipulate appointments in your 
calendar, place calls, and many more things.  Siri in conjunction with 
voiceover have really changed the way I do things on a day to day basis.  Hope 
this helps.
Brian
On Apr 4, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Jim Gatteys wrote:

 Hi all!
 Not sure if I can ask this here but I am considering getting an iPhone and 
 was wondering what the advantage of the 4S over the 4 is.  Anybody have any 
 ideas or comments for me?
 Thanks,
 Jim
 P.S.  Is there a dedicated iPhone list I should put this question to?
 Jim
 
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