Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-12 Thread Thomas McMahan
Yes there is, it's called save… ellipses means a dialog, the first thing it will speak is save as, thus save as is still there. Same with just closing a document in the do you wish to save dialog that comes up, you can title it and designate where you want it to go. Sounds like a save as to

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-12 Thread Goodin, Donna
No, as we've already discussed, that only happens if you've never saved a document before. If you've already saved it, the document is saved with its current name in its current place automatically, that is, no dialog opens up. Cheers, Donna On Jan 12, 2012, at 7:58 AM, Thomas McMahan wrote:

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-07 Thread Sean Murphy
Donna, I recall a book called abc for apple script. Let me look at my safari book list and get back to you later this week. Remind me if I for get. Sean On 05/01/2012, at 11:38 PM, Goodin, Donna wrote: Hi Sean, Thanks for the suggestion. I've actually been wanting to learn to use Apple

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-05 Thread Sean Murphy
Hi Donna, You might want to investigate into Apple Script. This can modify default behaviours for applications. You can introduce your own save as. This is a work around I know. But even better. You could create a template using apple script. activate the script fill in the bits you want.

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-05 Thread Goodin, Donna
Hi Sean, Thanks for the suggestion. I've actually been wanting to learn to use Apple Script for a long time, but I just never seem to have time. Can you suggest any tutorials or podcast on learning to use it? TIA, Donna On Jan 5, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Sean Murphy wrote: Hi Donna, You might

Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Goodin, Donna
Hi all, I have a situation wherein I use a certain file in different situations. I would like the option to open the basic file, modify the content, and save it with a different filename. This used to be possible, but the only option I see now for saving documents is Save a Version, which

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Becky Knaub
There was in Snow kitty but there is not that I know of in Lion for Pages or text edit. On Jan 4, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Goodin, Donna wrote: Hi all, I have a situation wherein I use a certain file in different situations. I would like the option to open the basic file, modify the content,

RE: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Missy Hoppe
I'd love answers to this question as well. I had a document where I somehow deleted everything, but figured it wasn't a problem because I could just open a previous version. Well, I never did figure out how to do that. Fortunately, the good version of the file was still in dropbox and also on my

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
Well, in SL, command shift S gives you the save as dialog; I can't see why this would be different in Lion. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, all you have to do is press command S. There is really no mystery to this. Also, if you press command w to close the window, you will be presented with the save as dialog if you haven't already saved the document. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Goodin, Donna
GRR. Apple's latest innovations are really starting to annoy me. Thanks, Donna On Jan 4, 2012, at 3:14 PM, Becky Knaub wrote: There was in Snow kitty but there is not that I know of in Lion for Pages or text edit. On Jan 4, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Goodin, Donna wrote: Hi all, I have

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Ray Foret Jr
But that's just it. She needs to alter a document and save it under a different name. I gree, the sightie option to save a version is really not very utilitarion for us. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook:

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Goodin, Donna
One correction, Ricardo. Command S saves a version. It does not give you a Save As Dialog. And, the document I'm talking about has already been saved, so I can't get to a Save As dialog by just closing the window. Cheers, Donna On Jan 4, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, all

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Goodin, Donna
Well, it is. Cmd-Shift S gives you nothing in Lion. Cheers, Donna On Jan 4, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: Well, in SL, command shift S gives you the save as dialog; I can't see why this would be different in Lion. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter:

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread John Panarese
There is no save as in Lion. This has to do with the version history feature. If you are working off a template or such, duplicate the document from the file menu and then do a command-s to save it with a new name. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jan 4, 2012, at 3:53

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Maybe, but, I can tell you how to look at older versions. Here's how you pull that off. 1. Go in to the document. 2. From the file menu, choose refverte option. 3. Now, this will open a document browser controler window. You want to go in to this window. 4. Now, if you VO+right, you

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Ricardo Walker
Yup. I'm sorry Donna. I didn't read your post first so I thought you hadn't already saved the document. This is true there is no save as as we all know it but, here's what you do. stop interacting with the scroll area in text edit and navigate over to the versions menu button. In this menu

RE: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Missy Hoppe
Thank you for this information. It's helpful, but is beyond tedius. I wouldn't suppose Apple would consider restoring previous behavior? This versions thing is just too weird and cumbersome to be practical. Command s and command shift s should still be available in my opinion. This is another

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Goodin, Donna
Thanks, John. God that's dumb, what on earth was Apple thinking? thanks anyway, Donna On Jan 4, 2012, at 3:59 PM, John Panarese wrote: There is no save as in Lion. This has to do with the version history feature. If you are working off a template or such, duplicate the document from

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
It reminds me of a notetaker in dos with the reverting! On 4 Jan 2012, at 09:02 PM, Ray Foret Jr rfore...@att.net wrote: Maybe, but, I can tell you how to look at older versions. Here's how you pull that off. 1. Go in to the document. 2. From the file menu, choose refverte option.

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread John Panarese
Remember that Lion is moving to an iOS kind of interface. The resume feature in Lion is another example of this. So, with documents, they are automatically edited as you work on them, so there is no need to manually save them. . Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jan

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Ricardo Walker
I see your point in regards to save as. I personally find no longer having to constantly save my work quite liberating though. In the course of a days work, I will press command S to save my work way more than I will press command shift S to rename or change formats of a duplicate of said

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread John Sanfilippo
Hi Donna, I ponder this quite a lot and actually got some help from Accessibility at Apple. I'm not sure, but check the files menu or dialog for Save a copy. What I've been doing, when I can anticipate the need, is, while viewing the file from Finder, simply command c, command v to make a safe

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Goodin, Donna
Thanks, Ricardo. I have to agree with Missy here, though. It's unfortunate to have to ad that extra step when there's no real need for it. Cheers, Donna On Jan 4, 2012, at 4:04 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Yup. I'm sorry Donna. I didn't read your post first so I thought you hadn't already

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Ray Foret Jr
You'll see I provided my findings on how to view and restore older versions of documents. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! Skype name: barefootedray Facebook: facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 On Jan 4, 2012, at 3:46 PM, John Sanfilippo wrote:

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Goodin, Donna
Unless, you're working on a template. The document in question is a service contract. I modify the template for each client, and then save it adding the client's name. And that's just one reason one might want to save an existing file with a different name, but keep the original document.

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Goodin, Donna
Hi John, I think what perplexes me is that I see absolutely no reason why Apple moving to an approach where you don't need to save files precludes keeping the Save As option. I agree with Ricardo that it's nice not to have to be always pressing CMD-S, but Save as addresses a different need,

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Eugenia Firth
Hi guys. People may have said this already, but let me tell you how I do it. I don't bother looking for versions any more unless I have to. These days, since I to do a lot of starting an original file, I a couple of ways of doing it. If I'm in Finder, I do command c on the original and

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread John Panarese
Hi Dnna, Well, Duplicate kind of does the same thing with, perhaps, an extra step. Also, you can use the, Revert, dialog, to access the document history. Like anything else, I guess it's a matter of getting used to changes. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jan 4, 2012,

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, I think you should write them and ask them to put it back. I don't think that would take much on their part. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jan 4, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Goodin, Donna wrote: Hi John, I think what perplexes me is that

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Matthew Campbell
Hi everyone. Seems like a mountain is being made out of a mole hill here. The instructions given don't seem to be that difficult at all. Stop interacting with the text area, VO left to versions menu button and activating it, find the duplicate option and activating it, and finally saving the

RE: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Missy Hoppe
You're exactly right. I like that certain aspects of the mac are so consistent, but then, there are other things that simply drive me bananas. It depends on the tasks, and also your level of proficiency on either system. I'm just saying that from what I've read since joining this list, there are

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Matthew, although this doesn't bother me, I think your missing the point. You really can't compare stop interacting, pressing VO right arrow about 5 times, and arrowing through a menu to do something to pressing command shift S. Does the first take long? No. But its much more to do, and

RE: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread M. Taylor
Brilliantly stated, Ricardo; I could not agree with you more. I am amazed at how some cannot resist the urge to assert that the Mac/VoiceOver is superior to Windows/Jaws/insert name of screen reader here or vice versa. As you eloquently put it, it is a matter of perspective. As for me, I am

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Goodin, Donna
Bless you, Ricardo!!! lol Cheers, Donna On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:50 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi Matthew, although this doesn't bother me, I think your missing the point. You really can't compare stop interacting, pressing VO right arrow about 5 times, and arrowing through a menu to do

Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?

2012-01-04 Thread Goodin, Donna
I'm going to. :) Cheers, Donna On Jan 4, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi, I think you should write them and ask them to put it back. I don't think that would take much on their part. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On