Re: VO and tables in Lion

2011-04-08 Thread William Windels
Hello Jürgen and others, I have mailed to accessibility about this but then can't/won't handle questions about products in development. I am not subscribed to the development team so I don't know that I can do more. Below is the response of accessibility: Thank you for your email. While we do

Re: VO and tables in Lion

2011-04-08 Thread Ashley Cox
Yeah, I got that too. I sent one back stating that I was commenting on snow leopard, not lion I said that it woudl be nice to see it fixed in lion. that's also word for word the response I got. ash On 08/04/2011 08:44, William Windels wrote: Hello Jürgen and others, I have mailed to

Re: VO and tables in Lion

2011-04-08 Thread Jürgen Fleger
I got the same answer. I answered back I didn't know a developer so I hope they could forward it to the appropriate people. Am 08.04.2011 um 11:01 schrieb Ashley Cox: Yeah, I got that too. I sent one back stating that I was commenting on snow leopard, not lion I said that it woudl be nice

Re: VO and tables in Lion

2011-04-07 Thread William Windels
Hello Jürgen, Thanx for this announcement. I'll report this for shore because this seems simply unacceptable in 2011. I hope a lot of others will do so. But also a litle remark: It isn't perhaps macosx that needs this feature but the particular programs like textedit and pages. I mean, perhaps

Re: VO and tables in Lion

2011-04-07 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Hi William, thanks for your responds. I don't think that it's very likely that VO will recognize tables in iWorks 11. Also: VoiceOver should work with tables in all accessible editors. I want to use all accessible programed editors with VO, also the free ones like Bean. Thank you for your

Re: VO and tables in Lion

2011-04-07 Thread Joel Zimba
Hi, can you clarify just what you mean about text documents and tables? As I see it, there are no tables in text documents. there are elements of text with elements of white space between. Are you talking about some sort of smart column recognition as in OCR programs? No Screenreader

Re: VO and tables in Lion

2011-04-07 Thread Ashley Cox
I just sent one. I too can confirm that they're not accessible in lion. It would really be great to see this fixed. ash On 06/04/2011 21:40, Jürgen Fleger wrote: Hi All, a friend told me VO still doesn't work with tables in text documents in Lion beta 2 what came out these days. As you all

Re: VO and tables in Lion

2011-04-07 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Hi Joel, sorry for confusing you. That might be because of my lack of english. Imagine a normal bill for example. There you have normal text of course. But usually there is also a table with columns and rows in what you find for example Name of Article, Prize, Tax and so forth. Isn't that

Re: VO and tables in Lion

2011-04-07 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hey how does one go by testing the beta for Lion? And if we want to use Snow Leopard again will it still be installed on here? Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: VO and tables in Lion

2011-04-07 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Sorry I can't help you in this case. It's not me it's a friend who uses Lion beta 2. Jürgen Am 07.04.2011 um 21:19 schrieb Shawn Krasniuk: Hey how does one go by testing the beta for Lion? And if we want to use Snow Leopard again will it still be installed on here? Shawn -- You

VO and tables in Lion

2011-04-06 Thread Jürgen Fleger
Hi All, a friend told me VO still doesn't work with tables in text documents in Lion beta 2 what came out these days. As you all surely know tables in text documents are a huge issue working with VoiceOver. I think this is awful and unworthy to VoiceOver. VO is really a great screen reader