subject:"RE\: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted\!"

Re: App store is in the process now of being fixed: was: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-17 Thread Erik Burggraaf

Not to be quarilous,  but it seems to me that a similar debacle with the 
App Store took place in an early version of iPhone / iOS.  I also seem to 
recall something about an iPhone being released under Steve Jobs with a 
hardware defect which would cause all Wireless signals to drop if the phone 
was held a certain way. this resulted in people hanging up their calls 
accidentally by touching the wrong part of their phone. so it seems to me 
that jobs wasn't perfect either. just saying...


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On September 17, 2016 7:11:26 AM Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:

Yep, the fix I posted last night, (work around honestly) feels very much 
hit and miss.  I don’t know what Apple was thinking, but, in a way , it 
sort of reminds me of the maps debacle when they just beta tested it with 
folks in Cupertino and then just naively thought it would work everywhere 
and Cook wound up with egg all over his face.  Steve Jobs would never ever 
ever have permitted this.  Jobs Cook is NOT.



Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in


Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

On Sep 16, 2016, at 10:10 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


I just spoke to Apple Accessibility, they finally called back.  Apparently, 
it took them so long, as they were really really looking into it.  
Apparently, they said they indeed are having major major major issues, with 
the app store.


This can be confirmed if you look at the forums on

http://discussions.apple.com <http://discussions.apple.com/>

For what it's worth, I just tried a second ago on my 6S, and the old 
interface is totally totally back and is working  flawlessly.  So, hold in 
there guys.  I think they're aware that there new approach didn't work 
after all.  Thank god they have image rollbacks.  The guy I spoke with, 
actually ironically just happened to be an engineer himself as well as an 
accessibility senior advisor.  He said he couldn't really go into much due 
to propriatary confidentiality sake, but, he said they are aware of it, and 
they are aware it didn't work at all.  It's just a matter of them rolling 
things back.  They're doing it apparently, he said in phases though, so if 
your devices still in the app store seem busted, give it about a day or so 
and it should be back to how we know it as.


Chris.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com <mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

- Original Message -
From: Robin <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:48 PM
Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

Apple better FixThis because it has a Wide Variety of iPhones on the 
Market, which aren't capable of using the ForceTouch 3D Touch Feature, 
which is Exclusive to the iPhone6S,iPhone6S+,iPhone7+,

But
the following aren't EquippedWith 3DTouch ForceTouch, I'm Referrin'To 
iPhone5,iPhone5C,iPhone5S,iPhone6+,iPhone6,iPhone6S,iPhone6S+,

And
All of these iPhones are capable of & permitted to UpdateTo Apple's iOS10
JustSayin'
At 07:29 PM 9/16/2016, you wrote:
So what the hell are people gonna do who have iPod touches, or phones which 
don't support 3D touch?


Secondly, you mention 3D touch, OK? So, how're we supposed to do this.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com <mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message -
From: Ray Foret jr <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  Itâ€™s a mess alright.  I did a 
search for â€œgrand clockâ€ and try though I might, I could not make the 
results come up except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  
Then, it only showed me one result that it says is from the app store.  
Then, I double tapped on the â€œviewâ€ button just off to the right of it.  
Yâ€™all, from the experience I had just now, it would appear that Apple has 
gone and done two things.


1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings.  I 
say this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and 
therefore it is impossible for me to interact with it.


2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened iTunes, 
I am forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI so that 
the search in the app store no longer is independant of iTunes but is 
somehow intigrated with it.  Most anoying seems to be that Apple did this 
w

Re: App store is in the process now of being fixed: was: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-17 Thread Ray Foret jr

Yep, the fix I posted last night, (work around honestly) feels very much hit 
and miss.  I don’t know what Apple was thinking, but, in a way , it sort of 
reminds me of the maps debacle when they just beta tested it with folks in 
Cupertino and then just naively thought it would work everywhere and Cook wound 
up with egg all over his face.  Steve Jobs would never ever ever have permitted 
this.  Jobs Cook is NOT.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 10:10 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I just spoke to Apple Accessibility, they finally called back.  Apparently, 
> it took them so long, as they were really really looking into it.  
> Apparently, they said they indeed are having major major major issues, with 
> the app store.
>  
> This can be confirmed if you look at the forums on
>  
> http://discussions.apple.com <http://discussions.apple.com/>
>  
> For what it's worth, I just tried a second ago on my 6S, and the old 
> interface is totally totally back and is working  flawlessly.  So, hold in 
> there guys.  I think they're aware that there new approach didn't work after 
> all.  Thank god they have image rollbacks.  The guy I spoke with, actually 
> ironically just happened to be an engineer himself as well as an 
> accessibility senior advisor.  He said he couldn't really go into much due to 
> propriatary confidentiality sake, but, he said they are aware of it, and they 
> are aware it didn't work at all.  It's just a matter of them rolling things 
> back.  They're doing it apparently, he said in phases though, so if your 
> devices still in the app store seem busted, give it about a day or so and it 
> should be back to how we know it as.
>  
> Chris.
>  
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>  
> i...@gillandmarketing.com <mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com>
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Robin <mailto:robin-mel...@comcast.net>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>> 
>> Apple better FixThis because it has a Wide Variety of iPhones on the Market, 
>> which aren't capable of using the ForceTouch 3D Touch Feature, which is 
>> Exclusive to the iPhone6S,iPhone6S+,iPhone7+,
>> But
>> the following aren't EquippedWith 3DTouch ForceTouch, I'm Referrin'To 
>> iPhone5,iPhone5C,iPhone5S,iPhone6+,iPhone6,iPhone6S,iPhone6S+, 
>> And
>> All of these iPhones are capable of & permitted to UpdateTo Apple's iOS10
>> JustSayin'
>> At 07:29 PM 9/16/2016, you wrote:
>>> So what the hell are people gonna do who have iPod touches, or phones which 
>>> don't support 3D touch?
>>>  
>>> Secondly, you mention 3D touch, OK? So, how're we supposed to do this.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>>  
>>> i...@gillandmarketing.com <mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com> 
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: Ray Foret jr <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net> 
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> 
>>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>>> 
>>> Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  Itâ€™s a mess alright.  I did a 
>>> search for â€œgrand clockâ€ and try though I might, I could not make the 
>>> results come up except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  
>>> Then, it only showed me one result that it says is from the app store.  
>>> Then, I double tapped on the â€œviewâ€ button just off to the right of it.  
>>> Yâ€™all, from the experience I had just now, it would appear that Apple has 
>>> gone and done two things. 
>>> 
>>> 1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings.  I 
>>> say this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and 
>>> therefore it is impossible for me to interact with it.
>>> 
>>> 2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened iTunes, 
>>> I am forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI so that 
>>> the search in the app store no lo

RE: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-17 Thread Simon Fogarty

HI Chris,

You mean the iPad range unless there is a force touch iPad screan now.

As you said iPods etc.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
Sent: Saturday, 17 September 2016 2:30 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

So what the hell are people gonna do who have iPod touches, or phones which 
don't support 3D touch?

Secondly, you mention 3D touch, OK? So, how're we supposed to do this.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com<mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message -
From: Ray Foret jr<mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  It’s a mess alright.  I did a search for 
“grand clock” and try though I might, I could not make the results come up 
except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  Then, it only showed 
me one result that it says is from the app store.  Then, I double tapped on the 
“view” button just off to the right of it.  Y’all, from the experience I had 
just now, it would appear that Apple has gone and done two things.

1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings.  I say 
this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and therefore 
it is impossible for me to interact with it.

2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened iTunes, I am 
forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI so that the 
search in the app store no longer is independant of iTunes but is somehow 
intigrated with it.  Most anoying seems to be that Apple did this without 
bothering to tell us they were doing it nor offered instructions on how we are 
supposed to find stuff now.

Now, I must emphasize that this is how it looks to me at this moment.  I could, 
of course, be wrong, but, based on this evening’s testing, looks to me like 
that’s what’s happened.

Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Mind you, guys, that this was a really really big update, and, on top of that, 
the IPhone 7 just came out, which means new integrations to the app store, 
ITunes, and who knows... probably other API's and things we're not aware of 
totally.  Point is, in Apple's defense, maybe they were just having some issues 
earlier when I tried.  I'll look again, and see if it's improved.  If not 
though, then, this could be a real serious problem!  It was kind of acting like 
it does when their servers get overloaded.  Earlier, when I tried downloading 
the Keynote app, what for a 92MB file should a taken about 2 minutes, if even 
that for me, took about 20.  So, yeah... something's definitely up, but thats 
really the best guess I can come up with.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com<mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com>
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message -
From: David Chittenden<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

I am unable to reproduce your problem. I have two iPhones, an iPhone 5S, and an 
iPhone 6+. I double-tap on the search tab on the bottom of the display. I then 
double-tap on the search field. I then type in my query using the onscreen 
keyboard and the search button is in the lower right corner. Or, I use braille 
screen input and swipe right with two fingers to activate search. In both 
cases, on both iPhones, it just worked right before writing this message.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com<mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 17/09/2016, at 08:38, Brian Fischler 
<brianfisch...@me.com<mailto:brianfisch...@me.com>> wrote:
I to am having an issue with the App Store and search on my new 7 and IOS 10, 
not sure if it is device specific but when I dictate nothing enters in the 
search box and if I type in what I am looking for VO does not read the results 
just skips over them to the tabs at the bottom. Looking like a pretty serious 
issue.
On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:49 PM, E.T. 
<ancient.ali...@icloud.com<mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:

  What search tab? Just find the search field where its always been located.

>

Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread Helga Schreiber

Hi guys! How are you all? When I type in the app store earlier,and I wanted to 
delete what I type on the search box with my bluetooth keyboard or my screen 
keyboard did not allow  me to delete  when I press delete key  on the screen 
and  my delete key on my bluetooth keyboard.  I think that  is a bug.  I double 
tap on tehe serch box, and I  make sure I'm on it, and I make sure  I'm on the 
end when I delete it does not work. voiceover does not  speak  to me at all! 
Can anyone here reproduce tht issue?And I also have bluetooth keyboard issues  
with the skyep app on my iPhone 6S. When I'm on skype, and hwhen I want to type 
a text after reading  my messages,and  I want to flick right or swipe right to 
find the eddit field with my bluetooth keyboard,adn with the finger gesture, I 
can't do that, I need to explore by touch only in order to find the eddit 
field. I think that is a bug with skype app for IOS. Did anyone  here 
experience that as well? I'm just wondering so I can report it to apple. This 
never happen in 9.3.5 wn i was using skype on my iPhone. I use skype a lot. 
Hope to her from you soon. Thanks and God bless!

  Helga Schreiber 
Group Moderator  

  for the IPad help for the blind 

ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io  

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 
Sent from my iPhone 6S running IOS 10

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 11:58 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Well, in my case, with my 6+ which does not have 3D touch, it is continuing 
> to work the same as always.
> 
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 17/09/2016, at 14:29, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So what the hell are people gonna do who have iPod touches, or phones which 
>> don't support 3D touch?
>>  
>> Secondly, you mention 3D touch, OK? So, how're we supposed to do this.
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>>  
>> i...@gillandmarketing.com
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message -----
>> From: Ray Foret jr
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>> 
>> Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  It’s a mess alright.  I did a search 
>> for “grand clock” and try though I might, I could not make the results come 
>> up except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  Then, it only 
>> showed me one result that it says is from the app store.  Then, I double 
>> tapped on the “view” button just off to the right of it.  Y’all, from the 
>> experience I had just now, it would appear that Apple has gone and done two 
>> things.
>> 
>> 1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings.  I say 
>> this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and 
>> therefore it is impossible for me to interact with it.
>> 
>> 2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened iTunes, I 
>> am forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI so that the 
>> search in the app store no longer is independant of iTunes but is somehow 
>> intigrated with it.  Most anoying seems to be that Apple did this without 
>> bothering to tell us they were doing it nor offered instructions on how we 
>> are supposed to find stuff now.
>> 
>> Now, I must emphasize that this is how it looks to me at this moment.  I 
>> could, of course, be wrong, but, based on this evening’s testing, looks to 
>> me like that’s what’s happened.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mind you, guys, that this was a really really big update, and, on top of 
>>> that, the IPhone 7 just came out, which means new integrations to the app 
>>

Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread David Chittenden

Considering that my iPhone 6, iPhone 5S, and my fiancées 6+ (both with and 
without VoiceOver), and her iPad Air, are not having this issue, it is not a 
problem for everybody.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 17/09/2016, at 14:48, Robin <robin-mel...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Apple better FixThis because it has a Wide Variety of iPhones on the Market, 
> which aren't capable of using the ForceTouch 3D Touch Feature, which is 
> Exclusive to the iPhone6S,iPhone6S+,iPhone7+,
> But
> the following aren't EquippedWith 3DTouch ForceTouch, I'm Referrin'To 
> iPhone5,iPhone5C,iPhone5S,iPhone6+,iPhone6,iPhone6S,iPhone6S+, 
> And
> All of these iPhones are capable of & permitted to UpdateTo Apple's iOS10
> JustSayin'
> At 07:29 PM 9/16/2016, you wrote:
>> So what the hell are people gonna do who have iPod touches, or phones which 
>> don't support 3D touch?
>>  
>> Secondly, you mention 3D touch, OK? So, how're we supposed to do this.
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>>  
>> i...@gillandmarketing.com 
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Ray Foret jr 
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>> 
>> Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  Itâ€™s a mess alright.  I did a 
>> search for â€œgrand clockâ€ and try though I might, I could not make the 
>> results come up except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  
>> Then, it only showed me one result that it says is from the app store.  
>> Then, I double tapped on the â€œviewâ€ button just off to the right of it.  
>> Yâ€™all, from the experience I had just now, it would appear that Apple has 
>> gone and done two things. 
>> 
>> 1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings.  I say 
>> this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and 
>> therefore it is impossible for me to interact with it.
>> 
>> 2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened iTunes, I 
>> am forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI so that the 
>> search in the app store no longer is independant of iTunes but is somehow 
>> intigrated with it.  Most anoying seems to be that Apple did this without 
>> bothering to tell us they were doing it nor offered instructions on how we 
>> are supposed to find stuff now.
>> 
>> Now, I must emphasize that this is how it looks to me at this moment.  I 
>> could, of course, be wrong, but, based on this eveningâ€™s testing, looks to 
>> me like thatâ€™s whatâ€™s happened.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! 
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mind you, guys, that this was a really really big update, and, on top of 
>>> that, the IPhone 7 just came out, which means new integrations to the app 
>>> store, ITunes, and who knows... probably other API's and things we're not 
>>> aware of totally.  Point is, in Apple's defense, maybe they were just 
>>> having some issues earlier when I tried.  I'll look again, and see if it's 
>>> improved.  If not though, then, this could be a real serious problem!  It 
>>> was kind of acting like it does when their servers get overloaded.  
>>> Earlier, when I tried downloading the Keynote app, what for a 92MB file 
>>> should a taken about 2 minutes, if even that for me, took about 20.  So, 
>>> yeah... something's definitely up, but thats really the best guess I can 
>>> come up with.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>>  
>>> i...@gillandmarketing.com
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: David Chittenden
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 6:32 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>>>> 
>>>> I am unable to reproduce your problem. I have two iPhones, an iPhone 5S, 
>>>> and an iPhone 6+. I double-tap on the search tab on the bottom of the 
>>>>

Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread David Chittenden

Well, in my case, with my 6+ which does not have 3D touch, it is continuing to 
work the same as always.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 17/09/2016, at 14:29, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> So what the hell are people gonna do who have iPod touches, or phones which 
> don't support 3D touch?
>  
> Secondly, you mention 3D touch, OK? So, how're we supposed to do this.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>  
> i...@gillandmarketing.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message -
> From: Ray Foret jr
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
> 
> Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  It’s a mess alright.  I did a search 
> for “grand clock” and try though I might, I could not make the results come 
> up except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  Then, it only 
> showed me one result that it says is from the app store.  Then, I double 
> tapped on the “view” button just off to the right of it.  Y’all, from the 
> experience I had just now, it would appear that Apple has gone and done two 
> things.
> 
> 1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings.  I say 
> this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and 
> therefore it is impossible for me to interact with it.
> 
> 2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened iTunes, I 
> am forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI so that the 
> search in the app store no longer is independant of iTunes but is somehow 
> intigrated with it.  Most anoying seems to be that Apple did this without 
> bothering to tell us they were doing it nor offered instructions on how we 
> are supposed to find stuff now.
> 
> Now, I must emphasize that this is how it looks to me at this moment.  I 
> could, of course, be wrong, but, based on this evening’s testing, looks to me 
> like that’s what’s happened.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Mind you, guys, that this was a really really big update, and, on top of 
>> that, the IPhone 7 just came out, which means new integrations to the app 
>> store, ITunes, and who knows... probably other API's and things we're not 
>> aware of totally.  Point is, in Apple's defense, maybe they were just having 
>> some issues earlier when I tried.  I'll look again, and see if it's 
>> improved.  If not though, then, this could be a real serious problem!  It 
>> was kind of acting like it does when their servers get overloaded.  Earlier, 
>> when I tried downloading the Keynote app, what for a 92MB file should a 
>> taken about 2 minutes, if even that for me, took about 20.  So, yeah... 
>> something's definitely up, but thats really the best guess I can come up 
>> with.
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>>  
>> i...@gillandmarketing.com
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: David Chittenden
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 6:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>>> 
>>> I am unable to reproduce your problem. I have two iPhones, an iPhone 5S, 
>>> and an iPhone 6+. I double-tap on the search tab on the bottom of the 
>>> display. I then double-tap on the search field. I then type in my query 
>>> using the onscreen keyboard and the searchbutton is in the lower 
>>> right corner. Or, I use braille screen input and swipe right with two 
>>> fingers to activate search. In both cases, on both iPhones, it just worked 
>>> right before writing this message.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 17/09/2016, at 08:38, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I to am having an issue with the App Store and search on my new 7 and IOS 
>>>> 10, not sure if it is device specific but when I dictate nothing enters in 
>>>> the search box and

Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread David Chittenden

I just opened the App Store on my iPhone 6+. I double-tapped on search tab. I 
double-tapped on the search edit box. I used the onscreen keyboard to type in 
grand clock. I double-tapped on the search button in the lower right corner. It 
worked, just like always, and just like when I tried it a few hours ago. It 
works in both the US and Australian and New Zealand stores.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 17/09/2016, at 14:29, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> So what the hell are people gonna do who have iPod touches, or phones which 
> don't support 3D touch?
>  
> Secondly, you mention 3D touch, OK? So, how're we supposed to do this.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>  
> i...@gillandmarketing.com
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
> - Original Message -
> From: Ray Foret jr
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
> 
> Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  It’s a mess alright.  I did a search 
> for “grand clock” and try though I might, I could not make the results come 
> up except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  Then, it only 
> showed me one result that it says is from the app store.  Then, I double 
> tapped on the “view” button just off to the right of it.  Y’all, from the 
> experience I had just now, it would appear that Apple has gone and done two 
> things.
> 
> 1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings.  I say 
> this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and 
> therefore it is impossible for me to interact with it.
> 
> 2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened iTunes, I 
> am forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI so that the 
> search in the app store no longer is independant of iTunes but is somehow 
> intigrated with it.  Most anoying seems to be that Apple did this without 
> bothering to tell us they were doing it nor offered instructions on how we 
> are supposed to find stuff now.
> 
> Now, I must emphasize that this is how it looks to me at this moment.  I 
> could, of course, be wrong, but, based on this evening’s testing, looks to me 
> like that’s what’s happened.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Mind you, guys, that this was a really really big update, and, on top of 
>> that, the IPhone 7 just came out, which means new integrations to the app 
>> store, ITunes, and who knows... probably other API's and things we're not 
>> aware of totally.  Point is, in Apple's defense, maybe they were just having 
>> some issues earlier when I tried.  I'll look again, and see if it's 
>> improved.  If not though, then, this could be a real serious problem!  It 
>> was kind of acting like it does when their servers get overloaded.  Earlier, 
>> when I tried downloading the Keynote app, what for a 92MB file should a 
>> taken about 2 minutes, if even that for me, took about 20.  So, yeah... 
>> something's definitely up, but thats really the best guess I can come up 
>> with.
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>>  
>> i...@gillandmarketing.com
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: David Chittenden
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 6:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>>> 
>>> I am unable to reproduce your problem. I have two iPhones, an iPhone 5S, 
>>> and an iPhone 6+. I double-tap on the search tab on the bottom of the 
>>> display. I then double-tap on the search field. I then type in my query 
>>> using the onscreen keyboard and the searchbutton is in the lower 
>>> right corner. Or, I use braille screen input and swipe right with two 
>>> fingers to activate search. In both cases, on both iPhones, it just worked 
>>> right before writing this message.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 17/09/2016, at 08:38, Brian Fischler &l

Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Oh! wicked!  Now that! is just cockeyed!

Chris.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ray Foret jr 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:51 PM
  Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!


  Okay.  I got it working again.  Here’s the long and the short of how to fix 
it then I’ll tell you what I think happened.


  1.  Double tap the search tab as usual.


  2.  Manually type in the search you want.


  3.  Now, place one finger on the search button at the bottom right and tap 
with the other finger ten times on the screen.  


  This will pull you in to the updates tab but when you go back in to the 
search tab, all should be normal now.  It would appear that sighted folks have 
been having this issue ever since early May of this year.  I found this 
solution on the Apple support forums.


  I figured that split tapping was the best way to handle this since you have 
to tap the search button ten times quickly.


  HTH.




  Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

  Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
  Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! 


On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:42 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


I actually, did, Google, and others sighted yes, are having the issue.  
It's horrendous!

I was talking to accessibility, but the lady's phone was constantly cutting 
in and out.  I told her to call back, she said she would, but that was about an 
hour ago, and still've heard nothing.  Go figure.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ray Foret jr
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:37 PM
  Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!


  Beats me man.  I’ve been fooling around with this for sort of half an 
hour now and can’t really figure it out beyond what I’m already able to guess.  
If it were just a snafu in the normal process, you’d think they would have 
solved it by now.  But, since it’s still going on, I gotta figure it’s a 
deliberate change in the UI that is meant to push people in to units with force 
touch.  You know how Apple never admits when things like this go wrong right?  
Well, I’m thinking maybe by Monday, if we can’t fiddle with this and work it 
out, we’d better report this to Apple and see what if any guidance they have to 
offer on this sort of thing.  Meantime, a general google search to see if 
sighted folks are having the same problems.  My guess is that if they are, the 
Apple forums will be full of the talk of it by now.


  Haven’t really looked yet myself because I’ve been sitting here about 
tapping my fingers off trying to work out what I am very certain is a major 
change in the UI.




  Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

  Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
  Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! 


On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


So what the hell are people gonna do who have iPod touches, or phones 
which don't support 3D touch?

Secondly, you mention 3D touch, OK? So, how're we supposed to do this.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ray Foret jr
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:20 PM
      Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!


  Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  It’s a mess alright.  I did a 
search for “grand clock” and try though I might, I could not make the results 
come up except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  Then, it only 
showed me one result that it says is from the app store.  Then, I double tapped 
on the “view” button just off to the right of it.  Y’all, from the experience I 
had just now, it would appear that Apple has gone and done two things.


  1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings. 
 I say this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and 
therefore it is impossible for me to interact with it.


  2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened
iTunes, I am forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI so 
that the search in the app store no longer is independant of iTunes but is 
somehow intigrated with it.  Most a

Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Yikes, you and Jonathan have the 7!  You lucky sailors?  LOL!  Now, can I come 
steal it?  LOL!  I'm obviously just kidding.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: David tanner 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!


  It's working just fine on my iPhone 7

  Sent from my iPhone 7

  On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:20 PM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:


Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  It’s a mess alright.  I did a search 
for “grand clock” and try though I might, I could not make the results come up 
except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  Then, it only showed 
me one result that it says is from the app store.  Then, I double tapped on the 
“view” button just off to the right of it.  Y’all, from the experience I had 
just now, it would appear that Apple has gone and done two things.


1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings.  I 
say this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and 
therefore it is impossible for me to interact with it.


2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened iTunes, 
I am forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI so that the 
search in the app store no longer is independant of iTunes but is somehow 
intigrated with it.  Most anoying seems to be that Apple did this without 
bothering to tell us they were doing it nor offered instructions on how we are 
supposed to find stuff now.


Now, I must emphasize that this is how it looks to me at this moment.  I 
could, of course, be wrong, but, based on this evening’s testing, looks to me 
like that’s what’s happened.




Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! 


  On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


  Mind you, guys, that this was a really really big update, and, on top of 
that, the IPhone 7 just came out, which means new integrations to the app 
store, ITunes, and who knows... probably other API's and things we're not aware 
of totally.  Point is, in Apple's defense, maybe they were just having some 
issues earlier when I tried.  I'll look again, and see if it's improved.  If 
not though, then, this could be a real serious problem!  It was kind of acting 
like it does when their servers get overloaded.  Earlier, when I tried 
downloading the Keynote app, what for a 92MB file should a taken about 2 
minutes, if even that for me, took about 20.  So, yeah... something's 
definitely up, but thats really the best guess I can come up with.
  ---
  Christopher Gilland
  JAWS Certified, 2016.
  Training Instructor.

  i...@gillandmarketing.com
  Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message - 
From: David Chittenden
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 6:32 PM
    Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!


I am unable to reproduce your problem. I have two iPhones, an iPhone 
5S, and an iPhone 6+. I double-tap on the search tab on the bottom of the 
display. I then double-tap on the search field. I then type in my query using 
the onscreen keyboard and the search button is in the lower right corner. Or, I 
use braille screen input and swipe right with two fingers to activate search. 
In both cases, on both iPhones, it just worked right before writing this 
message.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 17/09/2016, at 08:38, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:


  I to am having an issue with the App Store and search on my new 7 and 
IOS 10, not sure if it is device specific but when I dictate nothing enters in 
the search box and if I type in what I am looking for VO does not read the 
results just skips over them to the tabs at the bottom. Looking like a pretty 
serious issue.

On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:49 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:


  What search tab? Just find the search field where its always been 
located.

From E.T.'s Keyboard...
 Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/16/2016 11:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

  So... When I go, in iOS10 to the app store, then to the search 
tab, I
  only some of the time now see my search box at the top of the 
screen.
  If I do see it, I double tap.  The keyboard comes up, but if I 
then

App store is in the process now of being fixed: was: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

I just spoke to Apple Accessibility, they finally called back.  Apparently, it 
took them so long, as they were really really looking into it.  Apparently, 
they said they indeed are having major major major issues, with the app store.

This can be confirmed if you look at the forums on

http://discussions.apple.com

For what it's worth, I just tried a second ago on my 6S, and the old interface 
is totally totally back and is working  flawlessly.  So, hold in there guys.  I 
think they're aware that there new approach didn't work after all.  Thank god 
they have image rollbacks.  The guy I spoke with, actually ironically just 
happened to be an engineer himself as well as an accessibility senior advisor.  
He said he couldn't really go into much due to propriatary confidentiality 
sake, but, he said they are aware of it, and they are aware it didn't work at 
all.  It's just a matter of them rolling things back.  They're doing it 
apparently, he said in phases though, so if your devices still in the app store 
seem busted, give it about a day or so and it should be back to how we know it 
as.

Chris.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Robin 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!


  Apple better FixThis because it has a Wide Variety of iPhones on the Market, 
which aren't capable of using the ForceTouch 3D Touch Feature, which is 
Exclusive to the iPhone6S,iPhone6S+,iPhone7+,
  But
  the following aren't EquippedWith 3DTouch ForceTouch, I'm Referrin'To 
iPhone5,iPhone5C,iPhone5S,iPhone6+,iPhone6,iPhone6S,iPhone6S+, 
  And
  All of these iPhones are capable of & permitted to UpdateTo Apple's iOS10
  JustSayin'
  At 07:29 PM 9/16/2016, you wrote:

So what the hell are people gonna do who have iPod touches, or phones which 
don't support 3D touch?
 
Secondly, you mention 3D touch, OK? So, how're we supposed to do this.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.
 
i...@gillandmarketing.com 
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

  - Original Message - 

  From: Ray Foret jr 

  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:20 PM

  Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!


  Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  Itâ€™s a mess alright.  I did a 
search for â€œgrand clockâ€ and try though I might, I could not make the 
results come up except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  Then, 
it only showed me one result that it says is from the app store.  Then, I 
double tapped on the â€œviewâ€ button just off to the right of it.  Yâ€™all, 
from the experience I had just now, it would appear that Apple has gone and 
done two things. 


  1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings.  I 
say this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and 
therefore it is impossible for me to interact with it.


  2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened 
iTunes, I am forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI so 
that the search in the app store no longer is independant of iTunes but is 
somehow intigrated with it.  Most anoying seems to be that Apple did this 
without bothering to tell us they were doing it nor offered instructions on how 
we are supposed to find stuff now.


  Now, I must emphasize that this is how it looks to me at this moment.  I 
could, of course, be wrong, but, based on this eveningâ€™s testing, looks to me 
like thatâ€™s whatâ€™s happened.



  Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in


  Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray

  Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! 


On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


Mind you, guys, that this was a really really big update, and, on top 
of that, the IPhone 7 just came out, which means new integrations to the app 
store, ITunes, and who knows... probably other API's and things we're not aware 
of totally.  Point is, in Apple's defense, maybe they were just having some 
issues earlier when I tried.  I'll look again, and see if it's improved.  If 
not though, then, this could be a real serious problem!  It was kind of acting 
like it does when their servers get overloaded.  Earlier, when I tried 
downloading the Keynote app, what for a 92MB file should a taken about 2 
minutes, if even that for me, took about 20.  So, yeah... something's 
definitely up, but thats really the best guess I can come up with.

---

Christopher Gilland

JAWS Certified, 2016.

Training Instructor.



i...@gillandmar

Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread Mary Otten

Well everybody is beating their brains out trying to figure a way around this 
moving problem, it's worth noting that Siri search his work. You don't need 
force touch or anything else. If you do a Siri search it works.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 7:37 PM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Beats me man.  I’ve been fooling around with this for sort of half an hour 
> now and can’t really figure it out beyond what I’m already able to guess.  If 
> it were just a snafu in the normal process, you’d think they would have 
> solved it by now.  But, since it’s still going on, I gotta figure it’s a 
> deliberate change in the UI that is meant to push people in to units with 
> force touch.  You know how Apple never admits when things like this go wrong 
> right?  Well, I’m thinking maybe by Monday, if we can’t fiddle with this and 
> work it out, we’d better report this to Apple and see what if any guidance 
> they have to offer on this sort of thing.  Meantime, a general google search 
> to see if sighted folks are having the same problems.  My guess is that if 
> they are, the Apple forums will be full of the talk of it by now.
> 
> Haven’t really looked yet myself because I’ve been sitting here about tapping 
> my fingers off trying to work out what I am very certain is a major change in 
> the UI.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So what the hell are people gonna do who have iPod touches, or phones which 
>> don't support 3D touch?
>>  
>> Secondly, you mention 3D touch, OK? So, how're we supposed to do this.
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>>  
>> i...@gillandmarketing.com
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> ----- Original Message - 
>>> From: Ray Foret jr
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>>> 
>>> Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  It’s a mess alright.  I did a search 
>>> for “grand clock” and try though I might, I could not make the results come 
>>> up except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  Then, it only 
>>> showed me one result that it says is from the app store.  Then, I double 
>>> tapped on the “view” button just off to the right of it.  Y’all, from the 
>>> experience I had just now, it would appear that Apple has gone and done two 
>>> things.
>>> 
>>> 1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings.  I 
>>> say this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and 
>>> therefore it is impossible for me to interact with it.
>>> 
>>> 2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened
>>> iTunes, I am forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI 
>>> so that the search in the app store no longer is independant of iTunes but 
>>> is somehow intigrated with it.  Most anoying seems to be that Apple did 
>>> this without bothering to tell us they were doing it nor offered 
>>> instructions on how we are supposed to find stuff now.
>>> 
>>> Now, I must emphasize that this is how it looks to me at this moment.  I 
>>> could, of course, be wrong, but, based on this evening’s testing, looks to 
>>> me like that’s what’s happened.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mind you, guys, that this was a really really big update, and, on top of 
>>>> that, the IPhone 7 just came out, which means new integrations to the app 
>>>> store, ITunes, and who knows... probably other API's and things we're not 
>>>> aware of totally.  Point is, in Apple's defense, maybe they were just 
>>>> having some issues earlier when I tried.  I'll look again, and see if it's 
>>>> improved.  If not though, then, this could be a real serious problem!  It 
>>>

Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread Ray Foret jr

Okay.  I got it working again.  Here’s the long and the short of how to fix it 
then I’ll tell you what I think happened.

1.  Double tap the search tab as usual.

2.  Manually type in the search you want.

3.  Now, place one finger on the search button at the bottom right and tap with 
the other finger ten times on the screen.  

This will pull you in to the updates tab but when you go back in to the 
search tab, all should be normal now.  It would appear that sighted folks have 
been having this issue ever since early May of this year.  I found this 
solution on the Apple support forums.

I figured that split tapping was the best way to handle this since you have to 
tap the search button ten times quickly.

HTH.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:42 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> I actually, did, Google, and others sighted yes, are having the issue.  It's 
> horrendous!
>  
> I was talking to accessibility, but the lady's phone was constantly cutting 
> in and out.  I told her to call back, she said she would, but that was about 
> an hour ago, and still've heard nothing.  Go figure.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>  
> i...@gillandmarketing.com <mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com>
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Ray Foret jr <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>> 
>> Beats me man.  I’ve been fooling around with this for sort of half an hour 
>> now and can’t really figure it out beyond what I’m already able to guess.  
>> If it were just a snafu in the normal process, you’d think they would have 
>> solved it by now.  But, since it’s still going on, I gotta figure it’s a 
>> deliberate change in the UI that is meant to push people in to units with 
>> force touch.  You know how Apple never admits when things like this go wrong 
>> right?  Well, I’m thinking maybe by Monday, if we can’t fiddle with this and 
>> work it out, we’d better report this to Apple and see what if any guidance 
>> they have to offer on this sort of thing.  Meantime, a general google search 
>> to see if sighted folks are having the same problems.  My guess is that if 
>> they are, the Apple forums will be full of the talk of it by now.
>> 
>> Haven’t really looked yet myself because I’ve been sitting here about 
>> tapping my fingers off trying to work out what I am very certain is a major 
>> change in the UI.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! 
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So what the hell are people gonna do who have iPod touches, or phones which 
>>> don't support 3D touch?
>>>  
>>> Secondly, you mention 3D touch, OK? So, how're we supposed to do this.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>>  
>>> i...@gillandmarketing.com <mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com>
>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>> - Original Message - 
>>>> From: Ray Foret jr <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:20 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>>>> 
>>>> Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  It’s a mess alright.  I did a 
>>>> search for “grand clock” and try though I might, I could not make the 
>>>> results come up except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  
>>>> Then, it only showed me one result that it says is from the app store.  
>>>> Then, I double tapped on the “view” button just off to the right of it.  
>>>> Y’all, from the experience I had just now, it would appear that Apple has 
>>>> gone and done two things.
>>>> 
>>>> 1.  Force touch seems to be necessar

Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread David tanner

It's working just fine on my iPhone 7

Sent from my iPhone 7

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:20 PM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  It’s a mess alright.  I did a search 
> for “grand clock” and try though I might, I could not make the results come 
> up except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  Then, it only 
> showed me one result that it says is from the app store.  Then, I double 
> tapped on the “view” button just off to the right of it.  Y’all, from the 
> experience I had just now, it would appear that Apple has gone and done two 
> things.
> 
> 1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings.  I say 
> this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and 
> therefore it is impossible for me to interact with it.
> 
> 2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened iTunes, I 
> am forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI so that the 
> search in the app store no longer is independant of iTunes but is somehow 
> intigrated with it.  Most anoying seems to be that Apple did this without 
> bothering to tell us they were doing it nor offered instructions on how we 
> are supposed to find stuff now.
> 
> Now, I must emphasize that this is how it looks to me at this moment.  I 
> could, of course, be wrong, but, based on this evening’s testing, looks to me 
> like that’s what’s happened.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Mind you, guys, that this was a really really big update, and, on top of 
>> that, the IPhone 7 just came out, which means new integrations to the app 
>> store, ITunes, and who knows... probably other API's and things we're not 
>> aware of totally.  Point is, in Apple's defense, maybe they were just having 
>> some issues earlier when I tried.  I'll look again, and see if it's 
>> improved.  If not though, then, this could be a real serious problem!  It 
>> was kind of acting like it does when their servers get overloaded.  Earlier, 
>> when I tried downloading the Keynote app, what for a 92MB file should a 
>> taken about 2 minutes, if even that for me, took about 20.  So, yeah... 
>> something's definitely up, but thats really the best guess I can come up 
>> with.
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>>  
>> i...@gillandmarketing.com
>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: David Chittenden
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 6:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>>> 
>>> I am unable to reproduce your problem. I have two iPhones, an iPhone 5S, 
>>> and an iPhone 6+. I double-tap on the search tab on the bottom of the 
>>> display. I then double-tap on the search field. I then type in my query 
>>> using the onscreen keyboard and the search button is in the lower right 
>>> corner. Or, I use braille screen input and swipe right with two fingers to 
>>> activate search. In both cases, on both iPhones, it just worked right 
>>> before writing this message.
>>> 
>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 17/09/2016, at 08:38, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I to am having an issue with the App Store and search on my new 7 and IOS 
>>>> 10, not sure if it is device specific but when I dictate nothing enters in 
>>>> the search box and if I type in what I am looking for VO does not read the 
>>>> results just skips over them to the tabs at the bottom. Looking like a 
>>>> pretty serious issue.
>>>>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:49 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>   What search tab? Just find the search field where its always been 
>>>>> located.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9/16/2016 11:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>>>> So...

Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread Robin

Apple better FixThis because it has a Wide 
Variety of iPhones on the Market, which aren't 
capable of using the ForceTouch 3D Touch Feature, 
which is Exclusive to the iPhone6S,iPhone6S+,iPhone7+,

But
the following aren't EquippedWith 3DTouch 
ForceTouch, I'm Referrin'To 
iPhone5,iPhone5C,iPhone5S,iPhone6+,iPhone6,iPhone6S,iPhone6S+,

And
All of these iPhones are capable of & permitted to UpdateTo Apple's iOS10
JustSayin'
At 07:29 PM 9/16/2016, you wrote:
So what the hell are people gonna do who have 
iPod touches, or phones which don't support 3D touch?


Secondly, you mention 3D touch, OK? So, how're we supposed to do this.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

<mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com>i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
- Original Message -
From: <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>Ray Foret jr
To: <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  Itâ€™s a 
mess alright.  I did a search for â€œgrand 
clockâ€  and try though I might, I could not 
make the results come up except by double 
tapping and holding on the search box.  Then, it 
only showed me one result that it says is from 
the app store.  Then, I double tapped on the 
â€œviewâ€  button just off to the right of 
it.  Yâ€™all, from the experience I had just 
now, it would appear that Apple has gone and done two things.


1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at 
the results listings.  I say this due to the 
fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch 
and therefore it is impossible for me to interact with it.


2.  Since the result from the app store bounced 
over to and opened iTunes, I am forced to come 
to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI 
so that the search in the app store no longer is 
independant of iTunes but is somehow intigrated 
with it.  Most anoying seems to be that Apple 
did this without bothering to tell us they were 
doing it nor offered instructions on how we are supposed to find stuff now.


Now, I must emphasize that this is how it looks 
to me at this moment.  I could, of course, be 
wrong, but, based on this eveningâ€™s testing, 
looks to me like thatâ€™s whatâ€™s happened.



Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full 
accessibility for the blind built-in


Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark 
Gilland <<mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


Mind you, guys, that this was a really really 
big update, and, on top of that, the IPhone 7 
just came out, which means new integrations to 
the app store, ITunes, and who knows... 
probably other API's and things we're not aware 
of totally.  Point is, in Apple's defense, 
maybe they were just having some issues earlier 
when I tried.  I'll look again, and see if it's 
improved.  If not though, then, this could be a 
real serious problem!  It was kind of acting 
like it does when their servers get 
overloaded.  Earlier, when I tried downloading 
the Keynote app, what for a 92MB file should a 
taken about 2 minutes, if even that for me, 
took about 20.  So, yeah... something's 
definitely up, but thats really the best guess I can come up with.

---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

<mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com>i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.

- Original Message -
From: <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>David Chittenden
To: <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 6:32 PM
Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

I am unable to reproduce your problem. I have 
two iPhones, an iPhone 5S, and an iPhone 6+. I 
double-tap on the search tab on the bottom of 
the display. I then double-tap on the search 
field. I then type in my query using the 
onscreen keyboard and the search button is in 
the lower right corner. Or, I use braille 
screen input and swipe right with two fingers 
to activate search. In both cases, on both 
iPhones, it just worked right before writing this message.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 17/09/2016, at 08:38, Brian Fischler 
<<mailto:brianfisch...@me.com>brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:


I to am having an issue with the App Store 
and search on my new 7 and IOS 10, not sure 
if it is device specific but when I dictate 
nothing enters in the search box and if I 
type in what I am looking for VO does not 
read the results just skips over them to the 
tabs at the bottom. Looking like a pretty serious issue.
On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:49 PM, E.T. 
<<mailto:ancient.ali...

Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

I actually, did, Google, and others sighted yes, are having the issue.  It's 
horrendous!

I was talking to accessibility, but the lady's phone was constantly cutting in 
and out.  I told her to call back, she said she would, but that was about an 
hour ago, and still've heard nothing.  Go figure.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ray Foret jr 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:37 PM
  Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!


  Beats me man.  I’ve been fooling around with this for sort of half an hour 
now and can’t really figure it out beyond what I’m already able to guess.  If 
it were just a snafu in the normal process, you’d think they would have solved 
it by now.  But, since it’s still going on, I gotta figure it’s a deliberate 
change in the UI that is meant to push people in to units with force touch.  
You know how Apple never admits when things like this go wrong right?  Well, 
I’m thinking maybe by Monday, if we can’t fiddle with this and work it out, 
we’d better report this to Apple and see what if any guidance they have to 
offer on this sort of thing.  Meantime, a general google search to see if 
sighted folks are having the same problems.  My guess is that if they are, the 
Apple forums will be full of the talk of it by now.


  Haven’t really looked yet myself because I’ve been sitting here about tapping 
my fingers off trying to work out what I am very certain is a major change in 
the UI.




  Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

  Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
  Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! 


On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


So what the hell are people gonna do who have iPod touches, or phones which 
don't support 3D touch?

Secondly, you mention 3D touch, OK? So, how're we supposed to do this.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ray Foret jr
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:20 PM
  Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!


  Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  It’s a mess alright.  I did a 
search for “grand clock” and try though I might, I could not make the results 
come up except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  Then, it only 
showed me one result that it says is from the app store.  Then, I double tapped 
on the “view” button just off to the right of it.  Y’all, from the experience I 
had just now, it would appear that Apple has gone and done two things.


  1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings.  I 
say this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and 
therefore it is impossible for me to interact with it.


  2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened
iTunes, I am forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI so 
that the search in the app store no longer is independant of iTunes but is 
somehow intigrated with it.  Most anoying seems to be that Apple did this 
without bothering to tell us they were doing it nor offered instructions on how 
we are supposed to find stuff now.


  Now, I must emphasize that this is how it looks to me at this moment.  I 
could, of course, be wrong, but, based on this evening’s testing, looks to me 
like that’s what’s happened.




  Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

  Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
  Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! 


On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


Mind you, guys, that this was a really really big update, and, on top 
of that, the IPhone 7 just came out, which means new integrations to the app 
store, ITunes, and who knows... probably other API's and things we're not aware 
of totally.  Point is, in Apple's defense, maybe they were just having some 
issues earlier when I tried.  I'll look again, and see if it's improved.  If 
not though, then, this could be a real serious problem!  It was kind of acting 
like it does when their servers get overloaded.  Earlier, when I tried 
downloading the Keynote app, what for a 92MB file should a taken about 2 
minutes, if even that for me, took about 20.  So, yeah... something's 
definitely up, but thats really the best guess I can come up with.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phon

Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread Ray Foret jr

Beats me man.  I’ve been fooling around with this for sort of half an hour now 
and can’t really figure it out beyond what I’m already able to guess.  If it 
were just a snafu in the normal process, you’d think they would have solved it 
by now.  But, since it’s still going on, I gotta figure it’s a deliberate 
change in the UI that is meant to push people in to units with force touch.  
You know how Apple never admits when things like this go wrong right?  Well, 
I’m thinking maybe by Monday, if we can’t fiddle with this and work it out, 
we’d better report this to Apple and see what if any guidance they have to 
offer on this sort of thing.  Meantime, a general google search to see if 
sighted folks are having the same problems.  My guess is that if they are, the 
Apple forums will be full of the talk of it by now.

Haven’t really looked yet myself because I’ve been sitting here about tapping 
my fingers off trying to work out what I am very certain is a major change in 
the UI.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 9:29 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> So what the hell are people gonna do who have iPod touches, or phones which 
> don't support 3D touch?
>  
> Secondly, you mention 3D touch, OK? So, how're we supposed to do this.
> ---
> Christopher Gilland
> JAWS Certified, 2016.
> Training Instructor.
>  
> i...@gillandmarketing.com <mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com>
> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Ray Foret jr <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>> 
>> Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  It’s a mess alright.  I did a search 
>> for “grand clock” and try though I might, I could not make the results come 
>> up except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  Then, it only 
>> showed me one result that it says is from the app store.  Then, I double 
>> tapped on the “view” button just off to the right of it.  Y’all, from the 
>> experience I had just now, it would appear that Apple has gone and done two 
>> things.
>> 
>> 1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings.  I say 
>> this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and 
>> therefore it is impossible for me to interact with it.
>> 
>> 2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened
>> iTunes, I am forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI 
>> so that the search in the app store no longer is independant of iTunes but 
>> is somehow intigrated with it.  Most anoying seems to be that Apple did this 
>> without bothering to tell us they were doing it nor offered instructions on 
>> how we are supposed to find stuff now.
>> 
>> Now, I must emphasize that this is how it looks to me at this moment.  I 
>> could, of course, be wrong, but, based on this evening’s testing, looks to 
>> me like that’s what’s happened.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! 
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mind you, guys, that this was a really really big update, and, on top of 
>>> that, the IPhone 7 just came out, which means new integrations to the app 
>>> store, ITunes, and who knows... probably other API's and things we're not 
>>> aware of totally.  Point is, in Apple's defense, maybe they were just 
>>> having some issues earlier when I tried.  I'll look again, and see if it's 
>>> improved.  If not though, then, this could be a real serious problem!  It 
>>> was kind of acting like it does when their servers get overloaded.  
>>> Earlier, when I tried downloading the Keynote app, what for a 92MB file 
>>> should a taken about 2 minutes, if even that for me, took about 20.  So, 
>>> yeah... something's definitely up, but thats really the best guess I can 
>>> come up with.
>>> ---
>>> Christopher Gilland
>>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>>> Training Instructor.
>>>  
>>> i...@gillandmarketi

Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

So what the hell are people gonna do who have iPod touches, or phones which 
don't support 3D touch?

Secondly, you mention 3D touch, OK? So, how're we supposed to do this.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ray Foret jr 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 10:20 PM
  Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!


  Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  It’s a mess alright.  I did a search 
for “grand clock” and try though I might, I could not make the results come up 
except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  Then, it only showed 
me one result that it says is from the app store.  Then, I double tapped on the 
“view” button just off to the right of it.  Y’all, from the experience I had 
just now, it would appear that Apple has gone and done two things.


  1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings.  I say 
this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and therefore 
it is impossible for me to interact with it.


  2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened iTunes, I 
am forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI so that the 
search in the app store no longer is independant of iTunes but is somehow 
intigrated with it.  Most anoying seems to be that Apple did this without 
bothering to tell us they were doing it nor offered instructions on how we are 
supposed to find stuff now.


  Now, I must emphasize that this is how it looks to me at this moment.  I 
could, of course, be wrong, but, based on this evening’s testing, looks to me 
like that’s what’s happened.




  Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

  Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
  Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user! 


On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


Mind you, guys, that this was a really really big update, and, on top of 
that, the IPhone 7 just came out, which means new integrations to the app 
store, ITunes, and who knows... probably other API's and things we're not aware 
of totally.  Point is, in Apple's defense, maybe they were just having some 
issues earlier when I tried.  I'll look again, and see if it's improved.  If 
not though, then, this could be a real serious problem!  It was kind of acting 
like it does when their servers get overloaded.  Earlier, when I tried 
downloading the Keynote app, what for a 92MB file should a taken about 2 
minutes, if even that for me, took about 20.  So, yeah... something's 
definitely up, but thats really the best guess I can come up with.
---
Christopher Gilland
JAWS Certified, 2016.
Training Instructor.

i...@gillandmarketing.com
Phone: (704) 256-8010.
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Chittenden
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 6:32 PM
  Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!


  I am unable to reproduce your problem. I have two iPhones, an iPhone 5S, 
and an iPhone 6+. I double-tap on the search tab on the bottom of the display. 
I then double-tap on the search field. I then type in my query using the 
onscreen keyboard and the search button is in the lower right corner. Or, I use 
braille screen input and swipe right with two fingers to activate search. In 
both cases, on both iPhones, it just worked right before writing this message.

  David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
  Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
  Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
  Sent from my iPhone

  On 17/09/2016, at 08:38, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:


I to am having an issue with the App Store and search on my new 7 and 
IOS 10, not sure if it is device specific but when I dictate nothing enters in 
the search box and if I type in what I am looking for VO does not read the 
results just skips over them to the tabs at the bottom. Looking like a pretty 
serious issue.

  On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:49 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:


What search tab? Just find the search field where its always been 
located.

  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   Are We Alone in the Universe?
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com

  On 9/16/2016 11:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

So... When I go, in iOS10 to the app store, then to the search tab, 
I
only some of the time now see my search box at the top of the 
screen.
If I do see it, I double tap.  The keyboard comes up, but if I then
flick back up to the text box, it doesn't say is editting.  If I try
using Siri to dictate, nothing gets inserted into the box.  If I
manually type

Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread Ray Foret jr

Just tried it myself on my iPhone 6+.  It’s a mess alright.  I did a search for 
“grand clock” and try though I might, I could not make the results come up 
except by double tapping and holding on the search box.  Then, it only showed 
me one result that it says is from the app store.  Then, I double tapped on the 
“view” button just off to the right of it.  Y’all, from the experience I had 
just now, it would appear that Apple has gone and done two things.

1.  Force touch seems to be necessary to get at the results listings.  I say 
this due to the fact that my iPhone 6+ does not have force touch and therefore 
it is impossible for me to interact with it.

2.  Since the result from the app store bounced over to and opened iTunes, I am 
forced to come to the conclution that Aple has changed the UI so that the 
search in the app store no longer is independant of iTunes but is somehow 
intigrated with it.  Most anoying seems to be that Apple did this without 
bothering to tell us they were doing it nor offered instructions on how we are 
supposed to find stuff now.

Now, I must emphasize that this is how it looks to me at this moment.  I could, 
of course, be wrong, but, based on this evening’s testing, looks to me like 
that’s what’s happened.

Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 8:34 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Mind you, guys, that this was a really really big update, and, on top of 
> that, the IPhone 7 just came out, which means new integrations to the app 
> store, ITunes, and who knows... probably other API's and things we're not 
> aware of totally.  Point is, in Apple's defense, maybe they were just having 
> some issues earlier when I tried.  I'll look again, and see if it's improved. 
>  If not though, then, this could be a real serious problem!  It was kind of 
> acting like it does when their servers get overloaded.  Earlier, when I tried 
> downloading the Keynote app, what for a 92MB file should a taken about 2 
> minutes, if even that for me, took about 20.  So, yeah... something's 
> definitely up, but thats really the best guess I can come up with.
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>> - Original Message - 
>> From: David Chittenden <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 6:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>> 
>> I am unable to reproduce your problem. I have two iPhones, an iPhone 5S, and 
>> an iPhone 6+. I double-tap on the search tab on the bottom of the display. I 
>> then double-tap on the search field. I then type in my query using the 
>> onscreen keyboard and the search button is in the lower right corner. Or, I 
>> use braille screen input and swipe right with two fingers to activate 
>> search. In both cases, on both iPhones, it just worked right before writing 
>> this message.
>> 
>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com <mailto:dchitten...@gmail.com>
>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 17/09/2016, at 08:38, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com 
>> <mailto:brianfisch...@me.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I to am having an issue with the App Store and search on my new 7 and IOS 
>>> 10, not sure if it is device specific but when I dictate nothing enters in 
>>> the search box and if I type in what I am looking for VO does not read the 
>>> results just skips over them to the tabs at the bottom. Looking like a 
>>> pretty serious issue.
>>>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:49 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
>>>> <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>   What search tab? Just find the search field where its always been 
>>>> located.
>>>> 
>>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>>>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com <mailto:ancient.ali...@icloud.com>
>>>> 
>>>> On 9/16/2016 11:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>>> So... When I go, in iOS10 to the app store, then to the search tab, I
>>>>> only some of the time now see my search box at the top of the screen.
>>>>> If I do see it, I double tap.  The keyboard comes up, but if I then
>>>

Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Yeah, Mary, thanks for your confirmation.

I'm in whole agreement wit ya.  Hopefully, it's nothing too serious and will 
sort itself out.  I'm optimystic.  We'll just have to see.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Otten 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 7:30 PM
  Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!


  I reported having problems with this several days ago. I just looked at it 
now, and it is working fine. Obviously, there is something intermittent and 
flaky going on.
  Mary



  Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 16, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalke...@gmail.com> wrote:


No trouble here with a 6S either. Just tried to break it too and nothing 
out of the ordinary happened. tried swiping, touching and sliding around the 
screen to find things. all worked. Doesn’t mean it’s not happening but it’s not 
happening here. 

Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com






  On Sep 16, 2016, at 6:26 PM, Danny Noonan <danny.p.noo...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


  Perhaps it's evice specific as I'm having no trouble on my 6. 

  Danny


  Sent from my iPhone

  On 17 Sep. 2016, at 4:45 am, don bishop <w6...@donbishop.org> wrote:


Yes, I've noticed that too.  

Don  


- Original Message -
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland  <clgillan...@gmail.com>
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 11:43 am
Subject: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!






  So... When I go, in iOS10 to the app store, then to the search tab, I 
only some of the time now see my search box at the top of the screen.  If I do 
see it, I double tap.  The keyboard comes up, but if I then flick back up to 
the text box, it doesn't say is editting.  If I try using Siri to dictate, 
nothing gets inserted into the box.  If I manually type my query in, it'll then 
type in the box, but the search button isn't showing at the bottom of the 
keyboard.  in fact, as soon as I put my finger in the bottom right quadrant of 
the screen to tap search, the keyboard disappears entirely, and I land on the 
update tab instead.  I know I quote, need to just move my finger up a little 
bit.  Trust me, I am profoundly familiar with the app store, and how it works.  
I'm doing this 100% correctly, I assure you beyond a doubt.



  Plus, I have enough low vision to see what it's doing.  I'm 
definitely doing it correctly.



  The one time I somehow managed to get the search to carry out, mind 
you I dono what the heck I did to do so, there were no results.  The key word I 
searched for, just to see if I could make anything come up, not that I was 
gonna download it was, Pokimon G.  No results came up after doing the search.  
Further, when I clicked clear search after the search field, it wouldn't clear 
out what I typed.



  I've rebooted the phone.  NO good.  I disconnected and reconnected to 
my wifi.  No good.  I tried on cellular.  No good.  I even factory reset the 
phone.  NO good, and no, after doing so, I didn't restore from a backup.  I 
don't do that with major updates like this.  I just start over clean.



  It wasn't doing this earlier this morning,  and what's weirded on the 
mac is, when I open ITunes, I can't even get to the store anymore with 
command+Shift+Have in the update that just came out.  It bwonks at me, if I 
try.  I literally have to vo+Right arrow to the store radio button, then 
VO+Space on it.  Incredibly, incredibly! clunky!



  Is anyone else seeing this stuff?



  Chris.

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Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland

Mind you, guys, that this was a really really big update, and, on top of that, 
the IPhone 7 just came out, which means new integrations to the app store, 
ITunes, and who knows... probably other API's and things we're not aware of 
totally.  Point is, in Apple's defense, maybe they were just having some issues 
earlier when I tried.  I'll look again, and see if it's improved.  If not 
though, then, this could be a real serious problem!  It was kind of acting like 
it does when their servers get overloaded.  Earlier, when I tried downloading 
the Keynote app, what for a 92MB file should a taken about 2 minutes, if even 
that for me, took about 20.  So, yeah... something's definitely up, but thats 
really the best guess I can come up with.
---
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  - Original Message - 
  From: David Chittenden 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 6:32 PM
  Subject: Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!


  I am unable to reproduce your problem. I have two iPhones, an iPhone 5S, and 
an iPhone 6+. I double-tap on the search tab on the bottom of the display. I 
then double-tap on the search field. I then type in my query using the onscreen 
keyboard and the search button is in the lower right corner. Or, I use braille 
screen input and swipe right with two fingers to activate search. In both 
cases, on both iPhones, it just worked right before writing this message.

  David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
  Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
  Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
  Sent from my iPhone

  On 17/09/2016, at 08:38, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:


I to am having an issue with the App Store and search on my new 7 and IOS 
10, not sure if it is device specific but when I dictate nothing enters in the 
search box and if I type in what I am looking for VO does not read the results 
just skips over them to the tabs at the bottom. Looking like a pretty serious 
issue.

  On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:49 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:


What search tab? Just find the search field where its always been 
located.

  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
   Are We Alone in the Universe?
  ancient.ali...@icloud.com

  On 9/16/2016 11:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

So... When I go, in iOS10 to the app store, then to the search tab, I
only some of the time now see my search box at the top of the screen.
If I do see it, I double tap.  The keyboard comes up, but if I then
flick back up to the text box, it doesn't say is editting.  If I try
using Siri to dictate, nothing gets inserted into the box.  If I
manually type my query in, it'll then type in the box, but the search
button isn't showing at the bottom of the keyboard.  in fact, as soon as
I put my finger in the bottom right quadrant of the screen to tap
search, the keyboard disappears entirely, and I land on the update tab
instead.  I know I quote, need to just move my finger up a little bit.
Trust me, I am profoundly familiar with the app store, and how it
works.  I'm doing this 100% correctly, I assure you beyond a doubt.

Plus, I have enough low vision to see what it's doing.  I'm definitely
doing it correctly.

The one time I somehow managed to get the search to carry out, mind you
I dono what the heck I did to do so, there were no results. The key
word I searched for, just to see if I could make anything come up, not
that I was gonna download it was, Pokimon Go.  No results came up after
doing the search.  Further, when I clicked clear search after the search
field, it wouldn't clear out what I typed.

I've rebooted the phone.  NO good.  I disconnected and reconnected to my
wifi.  No good.  I tried on cellular.  No good.  I even factory reset
the phone.  NO good, and no, after doing so, I didn't restore from a
backup.  I don't do that with major updates like this.  I just start
over clean.

It wasn't doing this earlier this morning,  and what's weirded on the
mac is, when I open ITunes, I can't even get to the store anymore with
command+Shift+H in the update that just came out.  It bwonks at me, if I
try.  I literally have to vo+Right arrow to the store radio button, then
VO+Space on it.  Incredibly, incredibly! clunky!

Is anyone else seeing this stuff?

Chris.

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Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread Mary Otten

I reported having problems with this several days ago. I just looked at it now, 
and it is working fine. Obviously, there is something intermittent and flaky 
going on.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Jenine Stanley  wrote:
> 
> No trouble here with a 6S either. Just tried to break it too and nothing out 
> of the ordinary happened. tried swiping, touching and sliding around the 
> screen to find things. all worked. Doesn’t mean it’s not happening but it’s 
> not happening here. 
> Jenine Stanley
> dragonwalke...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 6:26 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps it's evice specific as I'm having no trouble on my 6. 
>> 
>> Danny
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 17 Sep. 2016, at 4:45 am, don bishop  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, I've noticed that too.  
>>> 
>>> Don  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 11:43 am
>>> Subject: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>>> 

 So... When I go, in iOS10 to the app store, then to the search tab, I only 
 some of the time now see my search box at the top of the screen.  If I do 
 see it, I double tap.  The keyboard comes up, but if I then flick back up 
 to the text box, it doesn't say is editting.  If I try using Siri to 
 dictate, nothing gets inserted into the box.  If I manually type my query 
 in, it'll then type in the box, but the search button isn't showing at the 
 bottom of the keyboard.  in fact, as soon as I put my finger in the bottom 
 right quadrant of the screen to tap search, the keyboard disappears 
 entirely, and I land on the update tab instead.  I know I quote, need to 
 just move my finger up a little bit.  Trust me, I am profoundly familiar 
 with the app store, and how it works.  I'm doing this 100% correctly, I 
 assure you beyond a doubt.

 Plus, I have enough low vision to see what it's doing.  I'm definitely 
 doing it correctly.

 The one time I somehow managed to get the search to carry out, mind you I 
 dono what the heck I did to do so, there were no results.  The key word I 
 searched for, just to see if I could make anything come up, not that I was 
 gonna download it was, Pokimon G.  No results came up after doing the 
 search.  Further, when I clicked clear search after the search field, it 
 wouldn't clear out what I typed.

 I've rebooted the phone.  NO good.  I disconnected and reconnected to my 
 wifi.  No good.  I tried on cellular.  No good.  I even factory reset the 
 phone.  NO good, and no, after doing so, I didn't restore from a backup.  
 I don't do that with major updates like this.  I just start over clean.

 It wasn't doing this earlier this morning,  and what's weirded on the mac 
 is, when I open ITunes, I can't even get to the store anymore with 
 command+Shift+Have in the update that just came out.  It bwonks at me, if 
 I try.  I literally have to vo+Right arrow to the store radio button, then 
 VO+Space on it.  Incredibly, incredibly! clunky!

 Is anyone else seeing this stuff?

 Chris.
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Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread Helga Schreiber

hey Pris, I am experiencing the same thing that you are at the search box on 
the App Store.  I am using iOS 10. when I type something on the search box, I 
am not able to delete text  it with my Bluetooth keyboard or the delete key on 
the on-screen keyboard . period that's very weird period I look forward in 
hearing from you soon. thanks so much and God bless :-)

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> On Sep 16, 2016, at 6:26 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
> 
> Perhaps it's evice specific as I'm having no trouble on my 6. 
> 
> Danny
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 17 Sep. 2016, at 4:45 am, don bishop  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, I've noticed that too.  
>> 
>> Don  
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Christopher-Mark Gilland  
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 11:43 am
>> Subject: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So... When I go, in iOS10 to the app store, then to the search tab, I only 
>>> some of the time now see my search box at the top of the screen.  If I do 
>>> see it, I double tap.  The keyboard comes up, but if I then flick back up 
>>> to the text box, it doesn't say is editting.  If I try using Siri to 
>>> dictate, nothing gets inserted into the box.  If I manually type my query 
>>> in, it'll then type in the box, but the search button isn't showing at the 
>>> bottom of the keyboard.  in fact, as soon as I put my finger in the bottom 
>>> right quadrant of the screen to tap search, the keyboard disappears 
>>> entirely, and I land on the update tab instead.  I know I quote, need to 
>>> just move my finger up a little bit.  Trust me, I am profoundly familiar 
>>> with the app store, and how it works.  I'm doing this 100% correctly, I 
>>> assure you beyond a doubt.
>>> 
>>> Plus, I have enough low vision to see what it's doing.  I'm definitely 
>>> doing it correctly.
>>> 
>>> The one time I somehow managed to get the search to carry out, mind you I 
>>> dono what the heck I did to do so, there were no results.  The key word I 
>>> searched for, just to see if I could make anything come up, not that I was 
>>> gonna download it was, Pokimon G.  No results came up after doing the 
>>> search.  Further, when I clicked clear search after the search field, it 
>>> wouldn't clear out what I typed.
>>> 
>>> I've rebooted the phone.  NO good.  I disconnected and reconnected to my 
>>> wifi.  No good.  I tried on cellular.  No good.  I even factory reset the 
>>> phone.  NO good, and no, after doing so, I didn't restore from a backup.  I 
>>> don't do that with major updates like this.  I just start over clean.
>>> 
>>> It wasn't doing this earlier this morning,  and what's weirded on the mac 
>>> is, when I open ITunes, I can't even get to the store anymore with 
>>> command+Shift+Have in the update that just came out.  It bwonks at me, if I 
>>> try.  I literally have to vo+Right arrow to the store radio button, then 
>>> VO+Space on it.  Incredibly, incredibly! clunky!
>>> 
>>> Is anyone else seeing this stuff?
>>> 
>>> Chris.
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Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread Jenine Stanley

No trouble here with a 6S either. Just tried to break it too and nothing out of 
the ordinary happened. tried swiping, touching and sliding around the screen to 
find things. all worked. Doesn’t mean it’s not happening but it’s not happening 
here. 
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalke...@gmail.com



> On Sep 16, 2016, at 6:26 PM, Danny Noonan  wrote:
> 
> Perhaps it's evice specific as I'm having no trouble on my 6. 
> 
> Danny
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 17 Sep. 2016, at 4:45 am, don bishop  > wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I've noticed that too.  
>> 
>> Don  
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Christopher-Mark Gilland  > >
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 11:43 am
>> Subject: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So... When I go, in iOS10 to the app store, then to the search tab, I only 
>>> some of the time now see my search box at the top of the screen.  If I do 
>>> see it, I double tap.  The keyboard comes up, but if I then flick back up 
>>> to the text box, it doesn't say is editting.  If I try using Siri to 
>>> dictate, nothing gets inserted into the box.  If I manually type my query 
>>> in, it'll then type in the box, but the search button isn't showing at the 
>>> bottom of the keyboard.  in fact, as soon as I put my finger in the bottom 
>>> right quadrant of the screen to tap search, the keyboard disappears 
>>> entirely, and I land on the update tab instead.  I know I quote, need to 
>>> just move my finger up a little bit.  Trust me, I am profoundly familiar 
>>> with the app store, and how it works.  I'm doing this 100% correctly, I 
>>> assure you beyond a doubt.
>>> 
>>> Plus, I have enough low vision to see what it's doing.  I'm definitely 
>>> doing it correctly.
>>> 
>>> The one time I somehow managed to get the search to carry out, mind you I 
>>> dono what the heck I did to do so, there were no results.  The key word I 
>>> searched for, just to see if I could make anything come up, not that I was 
>>> gonna download it was, Pokimon G.  No results came up after doing the 
>>> search.  Further, when I clicked clear search after the search field, it 
>>> wouldn't clear out what I typed.
>>> 
>>> I've rebooted the phone.  NO good.  I disconnected and reconnected to my 
>>> wifi.  No good.  I tried on cellular.  No good.  I even factory reset the 
>>> phone.  NO good, and no, after doing so, I didn't restore from a backup.  I 
>>> don't do that with major updates like this.  I just start over clean.
>>> 
>>> It wasn't doing this earlier this morning,  and what's weirded on the mac 
>>> is, when I open ITunes, I can't even get to the store anymore with 
>>> command+Shift+Have in the update that just came out.  It bwonks at me, if I 
>>> try.  I literally have to vo+Right arrow to the store radio button, then 
>>> VO+Space on it.  Incredibly, incredibly! clunky!
>>> 
>>> Is anyone else seeing this stuff?
>>> 
>>> Chris.
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Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread David Chittenden

I am unable to reproduce your problem. I have two iPhones, an iPhone 5S, and an 
iPhone 6+. I double-tap on the search tab on the bottom of the display. I then 
double-tap on the search field. I then type in my query using the onscreen 
keyboard and the search button is in the lower right corner. Or, I use braille 
screen input and swipe right with two fingers to activate search. In both 
cases, on both iPhones, it just worked right before writing this message.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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Sent from my iPhone

> On 17/09/2016, at 08:38, Brian Fischler  wrote:
> 
> I to am having an issue with the App Store and search on my new 7 and IOS 10, 
> not sure if it is device specific but when I dictate nothing enters in the 
> search box and if I type in what I am looking for VO does not read the 
> results just skips over them to the tabs at the bottom. Looking like a pretty 
> serious issue.
>> On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:
>> 
>>   What search tab? Just find the search field where its always been located.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>>> On 9/16/2016 11:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>> So... When I go, in iOS10 to the app store, then to the search tab, I
>>> only some of the time now see my search box at the top of the screen.
>>> If I do see it, I double tap.  The keyboard comes up, but if I then
>>> flick back up to the text box, it doesn't say is editting.  If I try
>>> using Siri to dictate, nothing gets inserted into the box.  If I
>>> manually type my query in, it'll then type in the box, but the search
>>> button isn't showing at the bottom of the keyboard.  in fact, as soon as
>>> I put my finger in the bottom right quadrant of the screen to tap
>>> search, the keyboard disappears entirely, and I land on the update tab
>>> instead.  I know I quote, need to just move my finger up a little bit.
>>> Trust me, I am profoundly familiar with the app store, and how it
>>> works.  I'm doing this 100% correctly, I assure you beyond a doubt.
>>> 
>>> Plus, I have enough low vision to see what it's doing.  I'm definitely
>>> doing it correctly.
>>> 
>>> The one time I somehow managed to get the search to carry out, mind you
>>> I dono what the heck I did to do so, there were no results. The key
>>> word I searched for, just to see if I could make anything come up, not
>>> that I was gonna download it was, Pokimon Go.  No results came up after
>>> doing the search.  Further, when I clicked clear search after the search
>>> field, it wouldn't clear out what I typed.
>>> 
>>> I've rebooted the phone.  NO good.  I disconnected and reconnected to my
>>> wifi.  No good.  I tried on cellular.  No good.  I even factory reset
>>> the phone.  NO good, and no, after doing so, I didn't restore from a
>>> backup.  I don't do that with major updates like this.  I just start
>>> over clean.
>>> 
>>> It wasn't doing this earlier this morning,  and what's weirded on the
>>> mac is, when I open ITunes, I can't even get to the store anymore with
>>> command+Shift+H in the update that just came out.  It bwonks at me, if I
>>> try.  I literally have to vo+Right arrow to the store radio button, then
>>> VO+Space on it.  Incredibly, incredibly! clunky!
>>> 
>>> Is anyone else seeing this stuff?
>>> 
>>> Chris.
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Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread Danny Noonan

Perhaps it's evice specific as I'm having no trouble on my 6. 

Danny

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> On 17 Sep. 2016, at 4:45 am, don bishop  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I've noticed that too.  
> 
> Don  
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Christopher-Mark Gilland  
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 11:43 am
> Subject: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!
> 
>> 
>> 
>> So... When I go, in iOS10 to the app store, then to the search tab, I only 
>> some of the time now see my search box at the top of the screen.  If I do 
>> see it, I double tap.  The keyboard comes up, but if I then flick back up to 
>> the text box, it doesn't say is editting.  If I try using Siri to dictate, 
>> nothing gets inserted into the box.  If I manually type my query in, it'll 
>> then type in the box, but the search button isn't showing at the bottom of 
>> the keyboard.  in fact, as soon as I put my finger in the bottom right 
>> quadrant of the screen to tap search, the keyboard disappears entirely, and 
>> I land on the update tab instead.  I know I quote, need to just move my 
>> finger up a little bit.  Trust me, I am profoundly familiar with the app 
>> store, and how it works.  I'm doing this 100% correctly, I assure you beyond 
>> a doubt.
>> 
>> Plus, I have enough low vision to see what it's doing.  I'm definitely doing 
>> it correctly.
>> 
>> The one time I somehow managed to get the search to carry out, mind you I 
>> dono what the heck I did to do so, there were no results.  The key word I 
>> searched for, just to see if I could make anything come up, not that I was 
>> gonna download it was, Pokimon G.  No results came up after doing the 
>> search.  Further, when I clicked clear search after the search field, it 
>> wouldn't clear out what I typed.
>> 
>> I've rebooted the phone.  NO good.  I disconnected and reconnected to my 
>> wifi.  No good.  I tried on cellular.  No good.  I even factory reset the 
>> phone.  NO good, and no, after doing so, I didn't restore from a backup.  I 
>> don't do that with major updates like this.  I just start over clean.
>> 
>> It wasn't doing this earlier this morning,  and what's weirded on the mac 
>> is, when I open ITunes, I can't even get to the store anymore with 
>> command+Shift+Have in the update that just came out.  It bwonks at me, if I 
>> try.  I literally have to vo+Right arrow to the store radio button, then 
>> VO+Space on it.  Incredibly, incredibly! clunky!
>> 
>> Is anyone else seeing this stuff?
>> 
>> Chris.
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Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread don bishop

Yes, I've noticed that too.  

Don  


- Original Message -
From: Christopher-Mark Gilland  
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, September 16, 2016 11:43 am
Subject: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

>
>
> So... When I go, in iOS10 to the app store, then to the search tab, I only 
> some of the time now see my search box at the top of the screen.  If I do see 
> it, I double tap.  The keyboard comes up, but if I then flick back up to the 
> text box, it doesn't say is editting.  If I try using Siri to dictate, 
> nothing gets inserted into the box.  If I manually type my query in, it'll 
> then type in the box, but the search button isn't showing at the bottom of 
> the keyboard.  in fact, as soon as I put my finger in the bottom right 
> quadrant of the screen to tap search, the keyboard disappears entirely, and I 
> land on the update tab instead.  I know I quote, need to just move my finger 
> up a little bit.  Trust me, I am profoundly familiar with the app store, and 
> how it works.  I'm doing this 100% correctly, I assure you beyond a doubt.
>  
> Plus, I have enough low vision to see what it's doing.  I'm definitely doing 
> it correctly.
>  
> The one time I somehow managed to get the search to carry out, mind you I 
> dono what the heck I did to do so, there were no results.  The key word I 
> searched for, just to see if I could make anything come up, not that I was 
> gonna download it was, Pokimon G.  No results came up after doing the search. 
>  Further, when I clicked clear search after the search field, it wouldn't 
> clear out what I typed.
>  
> I've rebooted the phone.  NO good.  I disconnected and reconnected to my 
> wifi.  No good.  I tried on cellular.  No good.  I even factory reset the 
> phone.  NO good, and no, after doing so, I didn't restore from a backup.  I 
> don't do that with major updates like this.  I just start over clean.
>  
> It wasn't doing this earlier this morning,  and what's weirded on the mac is, 
> when I open ITunes, I can't even get to the store anymore with 
> command+Shift+Have in the update that just came out.  It bwonks at me, if I 
> try.  I literally have to vo+Right arrow to the store radio button, then 
> VO+Space on it.  Incredibly, incredibly! clunky!
>  
> Is anyone else seeing this stuff?
>  
> Chris.
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Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread Brian Fischler

I to am having an issue with the App Store and search on my new 7 and IOS 10, 
not sure if it is device specific but when I dictate nothing enters in the 
search box and if I type in what I am looking for VO does not read the results 
just skips over them to the tabs at the bottom. Looking like a pretty serious 
issue.
> On Sep 16, 2016, at 2:49 PM, E.T.  wrote:
> 
>   What search tab? Just find the search field where its always been located.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>  Are We Alone in the Universe?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com 
> 
> On 9/16/2016 11:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> So... When I go, in iOS10 to the app store, then to the search tab, I
>> only some of the time now see my search box at the top of the screen.
>> If I do see it, I double tap.  The keyboard comes up, but if I then
>> flick back up to the text box, it doesn't say is editting.  If I try
>> using Siri to dictate, nothing gets inserted into the box.  If I
>> manually type my query in, it'll then type in the box, but the search
>> button isn't showing at the bottom of the keyboard.  in fact, as soon as
>> I put my finger in the bottom right quadrant of the screen to tap
>> search, the keyboard disappears entirely, and I land on the update tab
>> instead.  I know I quote, need to just move my finger up a little bit.
>> Trust me, I am profoundly familiar with the app store, and how it
>> works.  I'm doing this 100% correctly, I assure you beyond a doubt.
>> 
>> Plus, I have enough low vision to see what it's doing.  I'm definitely
>> doing it correctly.
>> 
>> The one time I somehow managed to get the search to carry out, mind you
>> I dono what the heck I did to do so, there were no results. The key
>> word I searched for, just to see if I could make anything come up, not
>> that I was gonna download it was, Pokimon Go.  No results came up after
>> doing the search.  Further, when I clicked clear search after the search
>> field, it wouldn't clear out what I typed.
>> 
>> I've rebooted the phone.  NO good.  I disconnected and reconnected to my
>> wifi.  No good.  I tried on cellular.  No good.  I even factory reset
>> the phone.  NO good, and no, after doing so, I didn't restore from a
>> backup.  I don't do that with major updates like this.  I just start
>> over clean.
>> 
>> It wasn't doing this earlier this morning,  and what's weirded on the
>> mac is, when I open ITunes, I can't even get to the store anymore with
>> command+Shift+H in the update that just came out.  It bwonks at me, if I
>> try.  I literally have to vo+Right arrow to the store radio button, then
>> VO+Space on it.  Incredibly, incredibly! clunky!
>> 
>> Is anyone else seeing this stuff?
>> 
>> Chris.
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Re: Search tab in iOS app store seems totally busted!

2016-09-16 Thread E.T.

   What search tab? Just find the search field where its always been 
located.


From E.T.'s Keyboard...
  Are We Alone in the Universe?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 9/16/2016 11:41 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:

So... When I go, in iOS10 to the app store, then to the search tab, I
only some of the time now see my search box at the top of the screen.
If I do see it, I double tap.  The keyboard comes up, but if I then
flick back up to the text box, it doesn't say is editting.  If I try
using Siri to dictate, nothing gets inserted into the box.  If I
manually type my query in, it'll then type in the box, but the search
button isn't showing at the bottom of the keyboard.  in fact, as soon as
I put my finger in the bottom right quadrant of the screen to tap
search, the keyboard disappears entirely, and I land on the update tab
instead.  I know I quote, need to just move my finger up a little bit.
Trust me, I am profoundly familiar with the app store, and how it
works.  I'm doing this 100% correctly, I assure you beyond a doubt.

Plus, I have enough low vision to see what it's doing.  I'm definitely
doing it correctly.

The one time I somehow managed to get the search to carry out, mind you
I dono what the heck I did to do so, there were no results.  The key
word I searched for, just to see if I could make anything come up, not
that I was gonna download it was, Pokimon Go.  No results came up after
doing the search.  Further, when I clicked clear search after the search
field, it wouldn't clear out what I typed.

I've rebooted the phone.  NO good.  I disconnected and reconnected to my
wifi.  No good.  I tried on cellular.  No good.  I even factory reset
the phone.  NO good, and no, after doing so, I didn't restore from a
backup.  I don't do that with major updates like this.  I just start
over clean.

It wasn't doing this earlier this morning,  and what's weirded on the
mac is, when I open ITunes, I can't even get to the store anymore with
command+Shift+H in the update that just came out.  It bwonks at me, if I
try.  I literally have to vo+Right arrow to the store radio button, then
VO+Space on it.  Incredibly, incredibly! clunky!

Is anyone else seeing this stuff?

Chris.

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