Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items

2012-06-09 Thread Sean Murphy
of the time, but not when it's in a professional type environment. Then, I try to refrane. Chris. - Original Message - From: erik burggraaf To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 7:18 AM Subject: Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting

Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items

2012-06-06 Thread erik burggraaf
: Monday, June 04, 2012 7:18 AM Subject: Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items Hi Chris, Erik here from ebony consulting in toronto. I feel your pain. To comment on a couple of things that have been said, I actually find that if you turn automatic

Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items

2012-06-05 Thread Gigi
Message - From: erik burggraaf To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 7:18 AM Subject: Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items Hi Chris, Erik here from ebony consulting in toronto. I feel your pain. To comment on a couple

Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items

2012-06-05 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
to refrane. Chris. - Original Message - From: erik burggraaf To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 7:18 AM Subject: Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items Hi Chris, Erik here from ebony

Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items

2012-06-05 Thread Steve Holmes
. Chris. - Original Message - From: Gigi To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 5:21 AM Subject: Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items Hi Chris You may have already

Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items

2012-06-05 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
let's just hope the pattern continues. Chris. - Original Message - From: Gigi To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 5:21 AM Subject: Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items

Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items

2012-06-04 Thread Cheree Heppe
Cheree Heppe here: Sometimes, theory is less effective than task based, hands on examples. Regards, Cheree Heppe Sent from my iPhone On 03/06/2012, at 20:47, Chris Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com wrote: okay… I really could use you awls help. I myself am also a Mac voiceover trainer. I have

Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items

2012-06-04 Thread Lisette wesseling
Hi Chris I agree with Veronica here. I'm a new Mac user and don't really get interacting either. But I'm learning by trial and error, and not stressing if I don't understand the concept. Your ring binder analogy and the zoom camera one actually really helped me, so thanks for those. I do know

Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items

2012-06-04 Thread Gigi
Hi there You know, sometimes the only way you can explain the concept is to say don't worry about it, just do it. Now I say that because I've had a few concepts I didn't get and I just said okay I'll just do it. But the reason I did not have trouble with the interacting concept is that I

Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items

2012-06-04 Thread erik burggraaf
Hi Chris, Erik here from ebony consulting in toronto. I feel your pain. To comment on a couple of things that have been said, I actually find that if you turn automatic interaction via tab key then things work more like windows, in direct contrast to what others have said. I also liked what

Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items

2012-06-04 Thread Mary Scott
Actually, this was a hard thing for me to learn also. So I just said to myself, When in doubt, interact. Teach her what the key strokes are to get in and out and tell her to play. It is so simple when it finally clicks. On Jun 4, 2012, at 12:10 AM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: The way I

Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items

2012-06-04 Thread John Panarese
This is all true. Sometimes, no matter what you do, explaining the theory and coming up with a bunch of analogies simply does not get the proverbial light switch to come on. It has nothing to do with the trainer or the student's capabilities. There are just concepts that are difficult

Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items

2012-06-04 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
of the time, but not when it's in a professional type environment. Then, I try to refrane. Chris. - Original Message - From: erik burggraaf To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 7:18 AM Subject: Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble

Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items

2012-06-03 Thread Maria Chapman
HI. i find interacting for me was learned through trial and error. but then i am a very hands on person. after all your student can't hurt anything by interacting with stuff and seeing what happens. just a thought. Blessings! Maria Joe and loving guide Karly. Email/ I Message: fb

Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items

2012-06-03 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
The way I explain VoiceOver's interacting with an object or region is to think of what a sighted person does with their eyes when they want to focus in on a small region of the screen. They squint their eyes a bit and narrow their gaze and focus in on a region of the screen that might have

Re: question for all voice over trainers: trouble interacting with items

2012-06-03 Thread Veronica Elsea
Hi there! Well, I am not a trainer, but I thought I'd describe my difficulties understanding the interactive concept and see if it helps at all. I do understand your bookshelf analogy except for one thing. If I'm in the finder and come upon a folder name, I just issue an open command to go