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[4]http://wiki.maemo.org/Mer_Blueprint_New
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On Jan 23, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Jonathan Marsaud wrote:
> In my humble opinion, aptitude should be added to the main seed of
> Maemo; why is it not already the case?
Because 95% of Maemo users would never use it and flash space isn't
free?
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On Jan 23, 2009, at 11:53 AM, Guillem Jover wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 11:27:41 -0500, Ryan Abel wrote:
>
>> On Jan 23, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Jonathan Marsaud wrote:
>>
>>> In my humble opinion, aptitude should be added to the main seed of
>>> Maemo; why is it
o, yes, again, for most tablet owners, aptitude is just a waste of
space.
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[2]http://maemo.org/community/council/community_highlights_for_december_2008-part_i-january_2009-part_ii/
[3]http://maemo.org/news/announcements/07a262bcedec11ddabdc07d2d12051a151a1/
[4]http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_roadmap/Fremantle
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I don't recall if there was talk about a Nokia-provided hacker edition
of Fremantle. I suspect there won't be, as it didn't gather a lot of
community development on the 770 and with projects like Mer creating a
community-supported build already, I suspect Nokia will fo
from there.
OK, this is good (yet again betraying my ignorance of proper
Debian ;)), now, how should this be implement in the Application
Manager?
(Related, I've filled http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4081 for
ignoring specific updates)
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So, disabling automatic upgrades from extras-devel will make smoke
> testing less effective.
I guess the next question, then, (which arguably belongs over on -
community) is whether it's time to add a third section to Extras.
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On Feb 17, 2009, at 8:17 AM, Jeremiah Foster wrote:
> How does this sound?
Sounds wonderfully sensible. ;)
Quim? Soumya?
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s that can be archived in 3 months.
Oh, right, mad props to the first person to get a virtual lightsaber
going on the RX-51. ;)
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verybody reading this list
understands that these aren't unsubstantiated rumors. Nokia has
announced their intentions, and they're working on the software. We're
getting a new device, and we're getting it within the next 6 months.
An awful lot of people on here seem to b
On Mar 5, 2009, at 4:16 AM, Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote:
> So, no multitouch screen.. right? ;-)
No. (Something we've know for a while, actually. ;))
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On Mar 6, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Murray Cumming wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 07:14 -0500, Ryan Abel wrote:
>
>> [1]http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2009-February/003336.html
>
> I did (and I joined that mailing list after finding it via google),
> but
&
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On Apr 15, 2009, at 3:03 AM, Quim Gil wrote:
> ext Ryan Abel wrote:
>
>> I'd like to propose that we start actively transitioning to the new
>> categories in the beginning of May
>
> Note that first we should get a one and only list of categories. Now
> we
>
> metalayer-crawler.
I don't know if you know (sounds like you don't), but /home will be
mounted on the internal card in Fremantle. So, presumably, /home/user/
MyDocs/.sounds would be one logical choice.
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> cause.
Or just raising the limits. We can always beg hardware from Tero
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> few minutes, both the dialog and the screen go away with no sign of
> what
> went wrong.
/etc/init.d/tablet-browser-daemon restart
Should fix it for you.
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to details what they like/didn't). If package gets at least one
> negative vote, it's out of the queue for extras. If package gets, say,
> 10 positive votes (the number is to be determined experimentally),
> it's
> automatically moved to extras.
The could be a modifi
verity "major" or higher. QA could release the
> package by
> reducing its severity.
Assuming the package has a bug tracker, sure.
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On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Jeremiah Foster
wrote:
>
> On May 12, 2009, at 14:39, Quim Gil wrote:
>
>> I think we could have a better prioritization of the tasks of the
>> debmaster, if not for this sprint at least for the next(s).
>
> It would be really great if this type of thing came up in
- Original message -
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On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote:
> I think it's time to define the Application manager categories for
> Fremantle. This has been done for Diablo here:
>
>http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Package_categories
>
> and we should update that page to talk about Fremantle, too, or make
On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Joseph Charpak
wrote:
> On a related note, packagers are doing a good job of not putting
> libraries in user/whatever (so they do not appear in blue pill mode),
> but we still do have some libwhatever packages in the list. It would be
> good to make sure the same th
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:16 AM, Thiago Bolaum wrote:
> Telepathy:
>
Barring extreme circumstances, always go with what's bundled on the
platform. Especially with resource-limited mobile devices.
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On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 8:41 AM, wrote:
> The Maemo Eclipse Integration 2nd Edition project has released installation
> packages for Maemo Flasher-3.5 Tool Beta for Linuxes, Mac OS X and Windows.
> Maemo Flasher-3.5 tool supports flashing of N8x0 Diablo devices and coming
> Fremantle devices.
>
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:43 AM, wrote:
>>One step forward and two steps back.
>
> Happy to see that you considered this Beta release to be at least one step
> forward (before ending up being one step backward :)
>
It's hardly every anything else with Nokia. :(
>>
>>No PPC binary, and the insta
(Sorry for the terrible quoting. You all knoe exactly how useless an
application Modest is. :))
There's absolutely no reason why not. Really, though, why don't we just open
source it so we don't have to deal with ANY of this insanity?
- Original message -
is it possible to do tablet->ta
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Kees
Jongenburger wrote:
>> There's absolutely no reason why not. Really, though, why don't we just open
>> source it so we don't have to deal with ANY of this insanity?
>
> There are other project the 0x flasher out there and not enough people
> tried and used i
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Graham Cobb wrote:
> I presume a garage tracker is an acceptable URL. If Ed ever gets the chance
> to do his "autobuild from garage" proposal he could default this to the
> associated tracker!
>
Acceptable, but probably not preferable. I'd like to see everybody
m
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Graham Cobb wrote:
> On Saturday 29 August 2009 16:23:43 Ryan Abel wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Graham Cobb wrote:
>> > I presume a garage tracker is an acceptable URL. If Ed ever gets the
>> > chance to do his "au
On Oct 9, 2009, at 7:20 PM, gary liquid wrote:
> because extras-testing is available on device isnt it ?
>
> does a user have to enter details for extras-testing and also extras-
> devel?
>
> i was under the impression -testing was included, but disabled by
> default?
Only Extras should be inc
Anybody managed to dig up the hands startup animation? I'd like to
start trying to update my boot screen packages for Fremantle.
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Many people are likely to complain that the N900's 3-row keyboard does
not contain enough keys to be usable. Notably missing are important
characters like tab and pipe.
Now, there _should_ be a relatively straightforward way to fix this
with Xmodmap. But as xev wasn't properly setup to recei
On Oct 14, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Ville M. Vainio wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Ryan Abel wrote:
>
>> So qwerty12 compiled a patched xev, I grabbed keycodes and I spent a
>> couple hours trying to convince the device that it'd be a really
>> great
>>
On Oct 14, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Ville M. Vainio wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Ryan Abel wrote:
>
>> So qwerty12 compiled a patched xev, I grabbed keycodes and I spent a
>> couple hours trying to convince the device that it'd be a really
>> great
>>
On Oct 14, 2009, at 4:37 PM, Joaquim Rocha wrote:
> What hardware keyboard layout are you using at the moment? You can
> check
> this by going to the Settings->Text Input.
English, Nederlands (bizarre). Editing the basic en_US character maps
in the symbols file had no effect.
> Could this en
On Oct 14, 2009, at 5:45 PM, Roald de Vries wrote:
>> My own picks for remaps (tab I can handle in X Terminal, although
>> the shortcut bar no longer editable = more sacrifice for the sake
>> of "simplicity") would be < and >.
>
> And how can you do (bash) command line editing and use vim with
On Oct 15, 2009, at 7:23 AM, Joaquim Rocha wrote:
> Matan Ziv-Av wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Oct 2009, Roald de Vries wrote:
>>
>>
>> This is not exact. It might work in a terminal emulator, but it is
>> not a
>> universal thing. Tab and Esc are useful in a lot of programs (such as
>> Esc for stop cu
Banging my head into the wall on this over the past few days. Seems
like it's a newfangled HAL issue, but I haven't been able to divine
anything about how I should go about making this thing cooperate.
Can somebody who has a clue about this stuff please just throw me a
bone here?
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On Oct 20, 2009, at 7:58 AM, Dave Neary wrote:
> Ryan Abel wrote:
>
>> On Oct 19, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Dave Neary wrote:
>>
>>> Thomas Waelti wrote:
>>>
>>>> (PS: There is also
>>>> http://wiki.maemo.org/User:Generalantilles/Sandbox/
&g
On Oct 28, 2009, at 10:50 AM, Valerio Valerio wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Flegg wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 14:03, Carsten Valdemar Munk
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Starting from today, I will be officially starting my work as
>>> maemo.org distmaster. Nokia has gracefully sp
One thing I think it might be worth working on is the user-
friendliness of the version strings of packages in Extras. We want the
Application manager to be as friendly and approachable for the average
user as possible and long incomprehensible lines of alphanumerics are
a surefire way to sc
On Oct 28, 2009, at 10:03 PM, Valerio Valerio wrote:
> If you’re a developer, make sure your applications are in good shape
> before the testing marathon.
Any developers who would like Bugzilla products before the marathon
starts, please email me the information listed on this page[1]:
http://
On Oct 29, 2009, at 5:45 PM, David Greaves wrote:
> So you're thinking that a git sha1 is 'suboptimal' ?
>
> I thought Shopper v.fc42f5c26bbc257cf782679f7b40075e05322647
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On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Qole wrote:
> Your reply continues to sound like the middle class moms who argue
> for private schools. How will our children ever get ahead if they go
> to that school down the street? It is full of common children who
> will only slow our gifted children down.
On Nov 3, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Till Harbaum wrote:
>
I'd just like to interject that any new process like this is going to
have growing pains. You have two options to deal with the kinks that
inevitably appear in an untried process, help to smooth them out (See
the "QA process = bug fixing di
On Nov 4, 2009, at 9:21 AM, Graham Cobb wrote:
> But the update description does not help with testing: (a) it is
> user friendly text, not a developer changelog and (b) the
> description is vs. the version already in Extras not vs. the last
> extras-testing version.
I'd still love to see a
Any news on when tablets-dev might be updated for those of us without
access to Windows XP installs? You know, most of us with pre-release
devices. ;)
http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/nokia_N900.php is 404 as of now.
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On Nov 11, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Bruce Forsberg wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Till Harbaum / Lists
> wrote:
>
>> the same happened to gpxview 0.8.13-1. I emailed Niels about
>> this but he did not yet reply.
>
> The Nokia folks must be having a N900 release party and not available.
> I
On Nov 12, 2009, at 3:17 AM, Dave Neary wrote:
> So - how can we make giving the feedback and voting on applications
> easier?
Oh, this one's easy. Get some servers so rating a package isn't either
impossible or a 20-minute endeavor. Even motivated testers like myself
don't have much intere
On Jan 19, 2010, at 1:12 PM, Andre Klapper wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 19.01.2010, 17:45 + schrieb Edward Johns:
>
>> I feel a little cheeky asking this when I've only just joined the list
>> but I was wondering if anybody else thinks it is a good idea to have
>> mails to this list (and the oth
On Jan 19, 2010, at 9:46 PM, Hartti Suomela wrote:
> Additionally I do not buy the "wasting space" argument but that is very much
> personal opinion based on my preference of using laptop much more than my
> handheld device for reading these emails and I understand that long prefixes
> could cr
On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Jeff Moe wrote:
> I've seen frequent mentions of how distinct maemo.org is from Nokia. But the
> reality seems that nothing at Maemo can really happen without Nokia's tacit
> approval. Is there anyone that has server access that isn't paid (directly or
> indirectly)
On Jan 20, 2010, at 5:26 PM, Jeff Moe wrote:
> On Wednesday 20 January 2010 19:21:18 Ryan Abel wrote:
>
>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Jeff Moe wrote:
>>
>>> I've seen frequent mentions of how distinct maemo.org is from Nokia. But
>>> the reality seem
On Jan 20, 2010, at 5:29 PM, Aldon Hynes wrote:
> Yet perhaps this is some of the problem. It seems like the community of
> people working with devices running Maemo might be better served if it was
> more distinct. As is noted on the maemo.org Terms of Use page, the site is
> hosted as a 'publi
On Jan 26, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Henrik Hedberg wrote:
> Jeremiah Foster wrote:
>
>> Bug #7505 asks if mauku is open or closed. According to the bug report, it
>> looks pretty closed.
> ...
>> What should we do here? Move this to non-free?
>
> I am very aware of the meaning "free" here. Mauku was
On Jan 27, 2010, at 2:28 AM, Henrik Hedberg wrote:
> Ryan Abel wrote:
>> On Jan 26, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Henrik Hedberg wrote:
>>> Jeremiah Foster wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bug #7505 asks if mauku is open or closed. According to the bug report, it
>>>>
On Feb 4, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Amichai Rotman wrote:
> Is it possible to adapt the existing Flasher utility, used to update the
> Nokia Tablets under Linux, so it can be used as a replacement for the
> Windows-only NSU?
>
> I am not a developer. I am an end user looking for a way to update my Noki
On Feb 12, 2010, at 4:12 PM, Ajai Khattri wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010, Sascha Mäkelä wrote:
>
>> While writing help files for my current project, I came to a conclusion that
>> it would be easier to have the app simply point to a wiki page. This way a
>> new version of the app would not be neede
On Mar 19, 2010, at 7:42 AM, Igor Stoppa wrote:
> ext Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
>
>> Dnia czwartek, 18 marca 2010 o 19:59:25 Samir Faci (Dev) napisał(a):
>>
>>> Hmm.. any one know if meego will be completely open source?.
>>>
>>> Or is it too early to know for sure at this point.
>>>
>>
>
On Mar 19, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Igor Stoppa wrote:
> ext Ryan Abel wrote:
>
>> Well, except for the part where Nokia ends up marketing it as "MeeGo". Oh,
>> and Harmattan's, apparently, MeeGo, too, and it definitely has closed stuff
>> at the platform level.
On Mar 19, 2010, at 5:50 PM,
wrote:
> From: ext Ryan Abel [rabe...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 19 March 2010 23:43
>
>> Will it be advertised as such? Wording I've seen so far leads me to believe
>> it'll be advertised as "MeeGo" not "MeeGo-comp
On Mar 19, 2010, at 6:15 PM, wrote:
> From: ext Ryan Abel [rabe...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 20 March 2010 00:06
>
>> Well, in Harmattans case, because it aint MeeGo at all. For anything else,
>> well, I don't know. Until we know exactly how much of the platform is
e if it can't be implemented in a more mobile-friendly manner.
Having a number of useful default profiles will help here.
FBReader's greatest strength is also its greatest weakness, so having a native
book reader would be a very welcome change!
is just to useful for paging not to use it in portrait. Also:
less wasted screen space in portrait.
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to facilitate ebook reading on your N900.
Without good format support, there's hardly any point.
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Johan Helsingius wrote:
> Eero Tamminen wrote:
>
>> Another reason why N800 etc software doesn't work on 770 is
>> hardware constraints. Less RAM, Flash and older OMAP version.
>> I.e. "unfortunately" both HW and SW move forward...
>
> But there really isn't any excuse for not allowing for a
> s
CCed from Bugzilla
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3103
I was having a discussion with X-Fade today on the repository category
mess, and the possibility of having usable categories besides
"All" (sadly, I haven't even looked at anything but "All" since at
least OS2005 :\) made me con
Marius Vollmer wrote:
"ext Ryan Abel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3103
Cool. We are aware that the category view sucks pretty hard, and I,
too, only ever use the All category. I'll try to get some opinions
from
our UI
On Apr 18, 2008, at 6:06 AM EDT, Andrew Flegg wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:27 AM, JL Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> If you have perl installed, you can try tablet-encode
>> (http://mediautils.garage.maemo.org/tablet-encode.html). It is a
>> front-end
>> to mencoder, which provides sens
Quim Gil wrote:
ext Dave Neary wrote:
Hi,
Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente wrote:
I think we should have some kind of agenda, previously published,
with
few points (to make it practical).
Pending topics should go to wiki or similar, to be discussed in next
meetings, i.e.
And a second cha
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I've been looking into booting from the sdcard and was wondering why
>> none of the "how to's" suggest formatting the card with jffs2.
>> There's
>> lots of debate between using ext2 or ext3, but nothing on using
>> jffs2.
>> Is there a simple reason for this I'm m
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 8:07 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm looking through these bugs, and I have some comments:
> 1. it'd be nice if someone would fix summaries.
> Bug 3196's summary was bad. It's probably worth it for someone to take
> the time to explain to reporters that summaries matte
Hello, Maemo Community. :)
As most of you probably already know, the 100 Days brainstorm over at http://wiki.maemo.org/100Days
has recently concluded, and now is the time to start working on
pushing the Tasks: that came out of it. To that end, I'd like to
request everybody's input on task t
On Jun 27, 2008, at 2:46 PM, Andrea Grandi wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> I think that the problem is that categories are defined by
>> application
>> developers (Section: field in the debian/control file).
>
> yes, you're right. With my mail I did mean: can we decide some general
> rules that every develop
On Jun 27, 2008, at 4:23 PM, Andrea Grandi wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> Please see the thread on maemo-developers for more discussion on
>> this point.
>
> which one? Tell me at least the exact subject, so I can search in my
> gmail account.
Oops, thought I was on -users there for a second. . . .
"[RFC
- Original message -
> Jamie Bennett wrote:
> > On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 09:17 -0400, Jason Edgecombe wrote:
> >
> > > BTW, is there something like debian-mentors for maemo? This would be
> > > extremely useful for someone as myself who is a newbie when it comes
> > >
> > to
> >
> > > de
- Original message -
> Could something like "for information on ITOS 2007 and newer, see
> the new wiki at wiki.maemo.org" be automatically added to the beginning
> of each of the old wiki pages?
>
This is a good plan, there was some discussion around it a while ago, but I
don't know wh
- Original message -
> on uploading a new version of my package, I get UNKNOWN as the build
> status. The mail itself contains:
>
> [2008-08-12 23:05:02] Processing package youamp 0.3.8-2. Uploader:
> madman2k, builder: builder1
> [2008-08-12 23:05:03] Building youamp 0.3.8-2 for target
>
itT user free was kind enough to compile what basically amounts to a
changelog for 4.2008.30-2[1] (something Nokia has been promising to do
for 2 years now with zero results). What I've noticed about these
changelogs is that many of them mention Nokia bug numbers in lieu of
actually providing real
On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Graham Cobb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 25 August 2008 12:30:24 Stephen J. Gadsby wrote:
>> > Hi, I am missing bug
>> >
>> > https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3619 - Tasknavigator icon sizes
>> > and usage not documented
>>
>> This is a web site bug,
On Aug 29, 2008, at 9:13 AM, Darius Jack wrote:
Hi,
is the above header required to post to maemo-developers today ?
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On Sep 18, 2008, at 10:14 AM, Andrew Barr wrote:
> Now if you guys could just free DSME and BME, I'd have few
> complaints left. :P
DSME is being opened.
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On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:57 AM, Luciano Miguel Wolf wrote:
> [1] http://qt4.garage.maemo.org
Just, fyi, you're using the incorrect maemo.org logo on the website. :)
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n I don't. I had
> the impression using extras-devel was risky anyway. Adding the risk of
> different code with the same revision doesn't bother me until it
> happens in the extras repository. All just my opinion.
It's wise to follow proper packaging procedure even during t
know what you think!
[1]http://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3602#c9
[2]https://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Maemo_Community_distribution
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r browsing speed?
>
> Thanks all!
You were looking for https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community
;)
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bunch of PDFs drop you into a reboot loop doing a minor system
upgrade, it's not a hard one to win, either. ;)
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> Thanks everybody for any suggestion.
http://maemo.org/downloads/product/OS2008/moredimmingoptions/
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On Oct 2, 2008, at 9:42 AM, Marius Vollmer wrote:
> "ext Ryan Abel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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>> When a bunch of PDFs drop you into a reboot loop doing a minor system
>> upgrade, it's not a hard one to win, either. ;)
>
> Are we sure that this was t
ou do silly things like symlinking the
directory to a card, and the postinst for the documentation package
fails because of that.
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; and sidestep the issue.
Any thoughts from the Nokia guys? Any alternative suggestions?
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On Oct 5, 2008, at 12:27 PM, David Greaves wrote:
> Ryan Abel wrote:
>> Any alternative suggestions?
>
> Fraemo ?
Well, since we're still using a lot of proprietary components, I don't
think that'll quite work. ;)
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nion (and not a particularly strong one at
that), though, and I may not be seeing the whole picture. Feel free to
convince me otherwise.
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On Oct 6, 2008, at 8:17 AM, Quim Gil wrote:
>> As another shot how about "rewind"
>>
>> 'Some drops are so popular that the DJ will "rewind" or "reload"
>
> OS Reloaded ?
That sounds too much like "The Matrix Reloaded", which
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