andre999 a écrit :
Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 23:49 -0400, andre999 a écrit :
Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 03:38 -0400, andre999 a écrit :
Michael Scherer a écrit :
If people work the same amount of time, with work divided on 2
products,
sorry, I forgot to strip off everything at the beginning
... so if you could ignore the previous email
andre999 a écrit :
I'd like to consolidate and clarify my ideas regarding an amended freeze
process, taking into account the critiques.
That is, that for the freeze which leads to the
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 09:33:44PM +0200, lebarhon wrote:
Le 19/06/2011 10:28, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
Nobody said anything against your efforts although I don't see any
reason there (and I haven't seen any discussion in the webteam where
it was decided to do so),
Who the hell are you to
Le 18/06/2011 13:19, Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 12:12 +0200, lebarhon a écrit :
1) can you please avoid posting as html to the list ?
2) if you wish to serve as a human gateway really between forum and ml
( which I didn't ask, I am smart enough to read forum by myself,
2011/6/19 lebarhon lebar...@free.fr:
Le 18/06/2011 13:19, Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 12:12 +0200, lebarhon a écrit :
1) can you please avoid posting as html to the list ?
2) if you wish to serve as a human gateway really between forum and ml
( which I didn't ask, I
andre999 a écrit :
Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 03:38 -0400, andre999 a écrit :
Michael Scherer a écrit :
Proposal 1:
6 months release cycle - 12 months life cycle
( Fedora, Ubuntu, Mandriva 2010.1 Mandriva != 2006.0 )
Proposal 2:
9 months release cycle - 18 months
Hello,
The discussion about the Mageia life cycle start few days ago on the
forum of the French user community of Mageia (
http://www.mageialinux-online.org/forum/topic-10576+cycle-de-vie-de-mageia.php
: for those who read French )
tTo put all the answers in a nutshell, i will say that users
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 23:49 -0400, andre999 a écrit :
Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 03:38 -0400, andre999 a écrit :
Michael Scherer a écrit :
If people work the same amount of time, with work divided on 2 products,
they must share their time, and usually work
Le 19/06/2011 10:28, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
Nobody said anything against your efforts although I don't see any
reason there (and I haven't seen any discussion in the webteam where
it was decided to do so),
Who the hell are you to dare say I am a liar !
Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 23:49 -0400, andre999 a écrit :
Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 03:38 -0400, andre999 a écrit :
Michael Scherer a écrit :
If people work the same amount of time, with work divided on 2 products,
they must share their
Michael Scherer a écrit :
Proposal 1:
6 months release cycle - 12 months life cycle
( Fedora, Ubuntu, Mandriva 2010.1 Mandriva != 2006.0 )
Proposal 2:
9 months release cycle - 18 months life cycle
( ~ opensuse and the one we used for Mageia 1 )
Proposal 3:
12 months release cycle - 24
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 23:43:57 +0200, Samuel Verschelde wrote about Re:
[Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion:
Thanks for the fame :) Do you know how I could easily have an institute
named after me ?
With the meteorlogical service of a windy nation (small island group for
instance
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 08:16:53 +
Dick Gevers wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 23:43:57 +0200, Samuel Verschelde wrote about Re:
[Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion:
Thanks for the fame :) Do you know how I could easily have an institute
named after me
by *isadora
https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofileu=90* »
Jun 17th, '11, 20:04
Must admit magnus is right about the difference between technical and
regular-users.
Today i started adding the cauldron-repositories, and did a first update
to my test-Mageia.
The first bunch
by magnus
Jun 17th, '11, 20:55
isadora wrote:Today i started adding the
cauldron-repositories, and did a first update to my
test-Mageia.
Today I have done the same job.
about 20 minutes - good internet connection
by wobo
Jun 18th, '11, 00:54
magnus wrote:(In the past ELP had a song
"Lucky man")
Most people forget that Lucky Man became worm fodder at the end of
the song.
But you can always enter the Zeppelin and take the Stairway
by *keksbaecker
https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofileu=698* »
Jun 18th, '11, 11:07
I am also just a simple end user and for me it is more important to have
a stable and running System than having the the latest Desktop
Environment installed.
Personally I think a new
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 13:19:16, Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 12:12 +0200, lebarhon a écrit :
1) can you please avoid posting as html to the list ?
2) if you wish to serve as a human gateway really between forum and ml
( which I didn't ask, I am smart enough to read
Op zaterdag 18 juni 2011 13:35:34 schreef Samuel Verschelde:
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 13:19:16, Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 12:12 +0200, lebarhon a écrit :
1) can you please avoid posting as html to the list ?
2) if you wish to serve as a human gateway really
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 13:42 +0200, Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
Op zaterdag 18 juni 2011 13:35:34 schreef Samuel Verschelde:
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 13:19:16, Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 12:12 +0200, lebarhon a écrit :
1) can you please avoid posting as html to
Op zaterdag 18 juni 2011 15:59:33 schreef Michael Scherer:
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 13:42 +0200, Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
Op zaterdag 18 juni 2011 13:35:34 schreef Samuel Verschelde:
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 13:19:16, Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 12:12 +0200,
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 03:38 -0400, andre999 a écrit :
Michael Scherer a écrit :
Proposal 1:
6 months release cycle - 12 months life cycle
( Fedora, Ubuntu, Mandriva 2010.1 Mandriva != 2006.0 )
Proposal 2:
9 months release cycle - 18 months life cycle
( ~ opensuse and the
Michael Scherer a écrit :
Le samedi 18 juin 2011 à 03:38 -0400, andre999 a écrit :
Michael Scherer a écrit :
Proposal 1:
6 months release cycle - 12 months life cycle
( Fedora, Ubuntu, Mandriva 2010.1 Mandriva != 2006.0 )
Proposal 2:
9 months release cycle - 18 months life cycle
( ~
by *Trio3b
https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofileu=395* »
Jun 17th, '11, 17:55
Must preface this reply by saying I am not a coder, developer, packager.
Just an end user. Long time MDV user (ver. 10.0). I have tried almost
every distro out there for fun but on my main
by magnus
Jun 17th, '11, 19:26 I think the whole discussion is dominated by
"technical" users.
I, as a simple user, need a stable, secure system where I can use my
applications.
Gnome 2, 3, 4 ??? KDE 4.6, 4. 7, 5.0 ??? What does it matter.
At the office a
by *pmithrandir
https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofileu=359* »
Jun 13th, '11, 20:21
On my side, I think mageia should do a mix of others idea.
I would say :
- A release every year.
- During this year, a way to update some popular stuff (firefox, chrome,
libreoffice...)
-
by *pmithrandir
https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofileu=359* »
Jun 13th, '11, 20:21
On my side, I think mageia should do a mix of others idea.
I would say :
- A release every year.
- During this year, a way to update some popular stuff (firefox,
chrome, libreoffice...)
Le 16/06/2011 19:57, lebarhon a écrit :
by *pmithrandir
https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofileu=359*
» Jun 13th, '11, 20:21
On my side, I think mageia should do a mix of others idea.
I would say :
- A release every year.
- During this year, a way to update some popular
2011/6/16 lebarhon lebar...@free.fr
It would be useful if there were a nice user friendly way to upgrade
Blender when it is backported. Something to let ordinary users know a newer
version is available and a simple click to upgrade it.
Look to Mageia App DB (in testing)
There is growing a
by dave
Jun 14th, '11, 22:32
One release every year with the related updated
(don't wait one year for have ad updated software) is better. The
best could be an half-rolling like chakra but this option isn't in
the proposals
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:46:33PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote:
Proposal 1:
6 months release cycle - 12 months life cycle
Proposal 2:
9 months release cycle - 18 months life cycle
Proposal 3:
12 months release cycle - 24 months life cycle
Regarding release cycles from a GNOME
Thorsten van Lil tv...@gmx.de schrieb am 14.06.2011
Am Montag, 13. Juni 2011, 23:28:04 schrieb Renaud MICHEL:
I don't get it why people think a re-install is necessary.
My current computer was installed with mandriva 2007 (don't
remember if it was .0 or .1), it is now mageia 1 and has been
Am 14.06.2011 08:48, schrieb Oliver Burger:
Thorsten van Lil tv...@gmx.de schrieb am 14.06.2011
An Upgrade is nearly the same, than reinstalling. The difference is
only, that you can use your system in the mean time and you are
not forced to install the missing packages.
And you keep all
Hello,
I will forward in this thread the messages coming from the forum. They
aren't my opinion.
Lebarhon.
by *corbintech
https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofileu=646* »
Jun 13th, '11, 22:12
I quit the ML because I was not doing it right (never used a list like
that before).
So if I may, I will post here what somebody responded to me and write my
response here.
by *roadrunner
https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofileu=468* »
Jun 13th, '11, 22:24
pmithrandir wrote:BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated
and that mageia should have a special section in this forum for
these discussion, or maybe another forum.
It's
'Twas brillig, and lebarhon at 14/06/11 11:42 did gyre and gimble:
by *roadrunner
https://forums.mageia.org/en/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofileu=468* »
Jun 13th, '11, 22:24
pmithrandir wrote:BTW : I think mailing list are totally outdated
and that mageia should have a special section
I agree. Mailing lists are messy and hard to follow. And sometimes the only
response you get is about how you sent the message wrong. I bet more people
would use the forums. Only a couple people so far are hooked on mailing
lists. Im seeing more and more comments coming in about this. forums would
On 06/14/2011 09:07 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
So, IMHO this discussion is as meaningless as the famous/infamous vi
vs emacs discussions of way back when.
+1
Not to mention that if you don't like getting emails, you can always
simply use the archives to find what interests you.
Lee Forest said on Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 08:52:50AM -0400:
Only a couple people so far are hooked on mailing
lists.
Yes, all the ones who really work on making the distro ! And I can't take
that opportunity to thank them :-)
My self +1 for ML, -1 for forums.
Bruno.
--
Open Source Linux
And keeping one golden rule of software development in mind, don't let your
system do redundant tasks. Look how many times a conversation is repeated
throughout its life time in a mailing list. Thats alot of redundant data
using up server traffic. In a forum everything is more central. A lot less
Le mardi 14 juin 2011 à 07:55 +0200, Thorsten van Lil a écrit :
Am Montag, 13. Juni 2011, 23:28:04 schrieb Renaud MICHEL:
On lundi 13 juin 2011 at 23:06, Thorsten van Lil wrote :
A rolling release has following advantages:
1. the distribution is always up to date (also hardware support)
On 06/14/2011 09:38 AM, Lee Forest wrote:
And keeping one golden rule of software development in mind, don't let
your system do redundant tasks. Look how many times a conversation is
repeated throughout its life time in a mailing list. Thats alot of
redundant data using up server traffic.
Am 14.06.2011 15:43, schrieb Michael Scherer:
Yes, but Backports are not officially supported and we wouldn't advice new users
to backports normally.
I am sorry, but I fail to follow your reasoning.
What I meant is: We can't tell the user to use the backports and if he
runs in trouble we
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 15:38, Lee Forest lee...@gmail.com wrote:
And keeping one golden rule of software development in mind, don't let your
system do redundant tasks.
As golden as the need to not to have redundancy: it depends.
Redundancy can be very, very appreciated. But not always in a
On 06/14/2011 10:03 AM, Frank Griffin wrote:
On 06/14/2011 09:38 AM, Lee Forest wrote:
And keeping one golden rule of software development in mind, don't
let your system do redundant tasks. Look how many times a
conversation is repeated throughout its life time in a mailing list.
Thats alot
On 06/14/2011 10:22 AM, Lee Forest wrote:
On 06/14/2011 10:03 AM, Frank Griffin wrote:
That's not caused by an ML, it's caused by people being lazy and
quoting the entire message to which they're replying, which is a
breach of netiquette. As is top-posting :-)
Android mail does that by
'Twas brillig, and Lee Forest at 14/06/11 13:52 did gyre and gimble:
mailing list might work best for a couple people but is it worth
inconveniencing the rest of the word because you are a die hard mailing
list user
I've posted the arguments before and I'll do it again, despite this
thread
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Thorsten van Lil wrote:
I don't want a full rolling release, because of the listed disadvantages. So,
if you ask me what is wrong with Arch, I would say:
* due to the rolling release, it's nearly vanilla. This doesn't match
requirements of Mageia
* no innovations (because
2011/6/14 Christiaan Welvaart c...@daneel.dyndns.org
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Thorsten van Lil wrote:
I don't want a full rolling release, because of the listed disadvantages.
So, if you ask me what is wrong with Arch, I would say:
* due to the rolling release, it's nearly vanilla. This doesn't
Am 14.06.2011 17:02, schrieb Anne nicolas:
I do not understand what people are saying about backports being
unsupported. IMHO we should either have backports that are
supported, with fixes for security issues and important bugs, or no
backports.
I guess because of Mandriva policy. We did
2011/6/14 Anne nicolas enn...@mageia.org:
I guess because of Mandriva policy. We did provide backports but it was
explicitely said to be unsupported. Use it at your own risks
We may have to rewrite this and make things clear
Do you mean, just telling people that it is no risk or do you mean
Hi,
2c from the marcomm team...
Proposal 1:
6 months release cycle - 12 months life cycle
( Fedora, Ubuntu, Mandriva 2010.1 Mandriva != 2006.0 )
Proposal 2:
9 months release cycle - 18 months life cycle
( ~ opensuse and the one we used for Mageia 1 )
Proposal 3:
12 months
Hi,
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Thorsten van Lil tv...@gmx.de wrote:
Am 14.06.2011 15:43, schrieb Michael Scherer:
Yes, but Backports are not officially supported and we wouldn't advice
new users
to backports normally.
I am sorry, but I fail to follow your reasoning.
What I meant
2011/6/14 Jehan Pagès jehan.marmott...@gmail.com:
On the user point of view, all one should care
is knowing a newer version, which is supposed tested and approved, is
available.
A BIG +1
--
wobo
2011/6/14 Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com
2011/6/14 Anne nicolas enn...@mageia.org:
I guess because of Mandriva policy. We did provide backports but it was
explicitely said to be unsupported. Use it at your own risks
We may have to rewrite this and make things clear
Do you
On 14 June 2011 09:25, Thorsten van Lil tv...@gmx.de wrote:
[...]
Backports aren't supposed to be for the averaged user
I've seen this argument more than once in this thread. Why isn't
backports suitable for the average user? that same average user would
install an RPM package from a 3rd party
Hi,
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote:
and shouldn't be used
to bring the half of your system up to date.
The word stable release implies doesn't change much; so a new
version of vlc or wine isn't a problem, but don't put updating to
GNOME3 or KDE
On 06/14/2011 01:33 PM, Jehan Pagès wrote:
Hi,
This has all been discussed before. See the thread at
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.devel/924
2011/6/14 Jehan Pagès jehan.marmott...@gmail.com:
Hi,
On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Ahmad Samir ahmadsamir3...@gmail.com wrote:
and shouldn't be used
to bring the half of your system up to date.
The word stable release implies doesn't change much; so a new
version of vlc or wine isn't a
Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 16:22:42 schreef Lee Forest:
[...]
Android mail does that by default. But that just proves my other point.
Half the time these replies complaining about top posting, lazyness, or
'netiquette' are being shot back instead of useful respones. In a forum
this is much less
In data lunedì 13 giugno 2011 23:44:01, Colin Guthrie ha scritto:
read about 30 or 40 different community lists. It's much quicker for
me to have a standard UI and a standard way of operating and a standard
look and feel.
Each project having a separate forum, with separate logins, with
Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 04:08:34 schreef Michael Scherer:
Le mardi 14 juin 2011 à 03:30 +0200, Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 01:02:51 schreef Michael Scherer:
Le lundi 13 juin 2011 à 15:51 +0300, Thomas Backlund a écrit :
Wolfgang Bornath skrev 13.6.2011 15:20:
Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 18:08:17 schreef Patricia Fraser:
Hi,
2c from the marcomm team...
Proposal 1:
6 months release cycle - 12 months life cycle
( Fedora, Ubuntu, Mandriva 2010.1 Mandriva != 2006.0 )
Proposal 2:
9 months release cycle - 18 months life cycle
( ~ opensuse
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:57:03 +0200
Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote:
Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 16:22:42 schreef Lee Forest:
[...]
Android mail does that by default. But that just proves my
other point. Half the time these replies complaining about top
posting, lazyness, or
Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 22:35:21 schreef Margot:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:57:03 +0200
Maarten Vanraes maarten.vanr...@gmail.com wrote:
Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 16:22:42 schreef Lee Forest:
[...]
Android mail does that by default. But that just proves my
other point. Half the time
Le mardi 14 juin 2011 20:00:39, Anne nicolas a écrit :
2011/6/14 Wolfgang Bornath molc...@googlemail.com
2011/6/14 Anne nicolas enn...@mageia.org:
I guess because of Mandriva policy. We did provide backports but it was
explicitely said to be unsupported. Use it at your own risks
We
Op dinsdag 14 juni 2011 18:08:17 schreef Patricia Fraser:
Hi,
2c from the marcomm team...
Proposal 1:
6 months release cycle - 12 months life cycle
( Fedora, Ubuntu, Mandriva 2010.1 Mandriva != 2006.0 )
Proposal 2:
9 months release cycle - 18 months life cycle
2011/6/14 Margot mar...@otfordduckscomputers.co.uk:
Forums aren't exactly 'modern' - they're just a BBS with added
graphics.
You put the whole discussion into the perspective it deserves!
Thx for making my day!
--
wobo
Le mercredi 15 juin 2011 à 02:33 +0900, Jehan Pagès a écrit :
And as I said in another mail, if people want to follow arch linux and
do a better job, maybe they should start to explain what are the weak
points of the distribution and then do proposal on stuff that can be
done better
Le mercredi 15 juin 2011 à 03:23 +0900, Jehan Pagès a écrit :
Hi,
I think it is so insane so many distributions are still with an
update by CD logics (even though it is partly modernized with
dropping the iso into an usb stick, or even simply mounting it
directly, I think that is still so
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 11:43:57PM +0200, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
Le mardi 14 juin 2011 00:50:48, Michael Scherer a écrit :
Or, as a mathematician would say :
backport_level(R) = stormi_constant / release_frequency(R)
( please not that you are now half as famous as Planck, Faraday and
Am Dienstag, 14. Juni 2011, 19:33:00 schrieb Jehan Pagès:
So basically what people call a light rolling release in this thread
is a rolling release where packages are tested and integrated? And
what you call a (non-light) rolling release is a development rolling
release (cooker, cauldron…)
From a long time mandriva (and now mageia) user POV, for myself I was quite
fine with 6 month release cycle, but at work I'd rather not update too
frequently and same goes for the rest of the family who generally don't
care
much for newer versions. And I know that for some people, a big
On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 00:58:36 +0200, Zézinho wrote about Re: [Mageia-dev]
Release cycles proposals, and discussion:
Em 12-06-2011 22:46, Michael Scherer escreveu:
- all proposals must be justified ( and why they are better than the
current ones ).
9 months means no yearly loop. Humans are used
...
I wold go for the 9 mo cycle (most probably I will use cauldron for
myself ;) ) 9 mo release gives enoug time for developers and its not
so long time (for me, my wifes pregnancy went so quckly :) ) and for
users with a need for a longer support LTS. I dont remember who said
it but I liked the
I made another post in a different thread about the way I feel the release
cycle should go. After more thinking I do think that I really have the right
idea and here is why...
Going the route of release cycles really does not make this distribution fit
into anything. You going to try and appeal
Le lundi 13 juin 2011 à 03:07 -0700, Ron a écrit :
I made another post in a different thread about the way I feel the release
cycle should go. After more thinking
I do think that I really have the right idea and here is why...
Going the route of release cycles really does not make this
Unstable branch - absolute latest software here...
Rolling unstable - Still risky but not on the lines of unstable
Rolling stable - everyday use and very stable
May I add my bit of unrequested thoughts?
This discussion seems to only differentiate between degrees of unstability and
risks,
Le lundi 13 juin 2011 à 01:06 +0300, Sander Lepik a écrit :
12.06.2011 23:46, Michael Scherer kirjutas:
Proposal 1:
6 months release cycle - 12 months life cycle
( Fedora, Ubuntu, Mandriva 2010.1 Mandriva != 2006.0 )
Proposal 2:
9 months release cycle - 18 months life cycle
( ~
Op maandag 13 juni 2011 13:36:07 schreef Michael Scherer:
[...]
Another solution is to have a longer freeze period, so people focus
less on last minutes changes and packages upgrades, and more on bug
fixing.
i would be in favor of that.
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Thorsten van Lil tv...@gmx.de wrote:
Am Sonntag, 12. Juni 2011, 22:46:33 schrieb Michael Scherer:
Proposal 1:
6 months release cycle - 12 months life cycle
( Fedora, Ubuntu, Mandriva 2010.1 Mandriva != 2006.0 )
Proposal 2:
9 months release cycle - 18
Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org schrieb am 12.06.2011
Proposal 1:
6 months release cycle - 12 months life cycle
( Fedora, Ubuntu, Mandriva 2010.1 Mandriva != 2006.0 )
Proposal 2:
9 months release cycle - 18 months life cycle
( ~ opensuse and the one we used for Mageia 1 )
Proposal 3:
There is a limited set of options, and as you can see, none of your idea was
not already explored by someone else.
It has all been done before, in that sense let's just close up shop and call it
a day???
If everything move all days, you cannot :
- translate software ( as the string will change
Le lundi 13 juin 2011 à 14:01 +0200, Oliver Burger a écrit :
Michael Scherer m...@zarb.org schrieb am 12.06.2011
Proposal 1:
6 months release cycle - 12 months life cycle
( Fedora, Ubuntu, Mandriva 2010.1 Mandriva != 2006.0 )
Proposal 2:
9 months release cycle - 18 months life
About the cycles:
The problems with 6-months have been pointed out - my main concern
would be the lack of manpower and the continuous state of
pre-release, no real room to sit back and contemplate hwat is and
what could be and all the rest. IMHO such a contemplating time is
necessary to keep the
Wolfgang Bornath skrev 13.6.2011 15:20:
About the cycles:
The 9-months seem to be a compromise - but I start to ask why we need
such a fixed statement (which it would be, once published). We need a
schedule for each cycle, that's true. Without a schedule we would
never finish anything. But how
Le dimanche 12 juin 2011 22:46:33, Michael Scherer a écrit :
Hi,
so , with a little bit delay due to various things ( like everybody
asking stuff to us on irc on a hourly fashion ( people will I hope
recognize themselves )), Anne and I have reviewed the various proposals
made through years
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:51 PM, Thomas Backlund t...@mageia.org wrote:
Wolfgang Bornath skrev 13.6.2011 15:20:
About the cycles:
The 9-months seem to be a compromise - but I start to ask why we need
such a fixed statement (which it would be, once published). We need a
schedule for each
lunedì 13 giugno 2011 alle 12:07, Ron ha scritto:
I made another post in a different thread about the way I feel the release
cycle should go.
Sorry i can't see why... couldn't we go on that thread?
Hard to follow, quite long, but maybe easy to summarize at the end of
discussion.
Oh well
2011/6/13 Thomas Backlund t...@mageia.org
Wolfgang Bornath skrev 13.6.2011 15:20:
About the cycles:
The 9-months seem to be a compromise - but I start to ask why we need
such a fixed statement (which it would be, once published). We need a
schedule for each cycle, that's true. Without a
lunedì 13 giugno 2011 alle 15:08, Thomas Backlund ha scritto:
Well, it was intended to point out the problem with the flexible
approach, and a possible fix by deciding some limits to the flexibility.
If the decision of how much (+X or -X) is taken during the post release
phase (e.g. now in the
Le 13/06/2011 17:37, Dale Huckeby a écrit :
The consensus so far seems to be:
6 months is too short
12 months is too long
9 months is just about right
You have to choose your public, 6 months is for geeks, 12 months is for
everybody, these people who aren't IT technicians.
The
I will say my part and I'm gone...
I don't understand why everyone is acting like a rolling release is going to
put so much strain on the project. What is so hard about developing in one
place and allowing the updates to trickle down is so hard?
It almost seems to me that you want to ask the
13.06.2011 19:51, Ron kirjutas:
I will say my part and I'm gone...
I don't understand why everyone is acting like a rolling release is going to put so much
strain on the project. What is so hard about developing in one place and allowing the
updates to trickle down is so hard?
Well.. take
Le lundi 13 juin 2011 à 18:29 +0200, lebarhon a écrit :
Le 13/06/2011 17:37, Dale Huckeby a écrit :
The consensus so far seems to be:
6 months is too short
12 months is too long
9 months is just about right
You have to choose your public, 6 months is for geeks, 12 months is
Op maandag 13 juni 2011 18:51:40 schreef Ron:
I will say my part and I'm gone...
I don't understand why everyone is acting like a rolling release is going
to put so much strain on the project. What is so hard about developing in
one place and allowing the updates to trickle down is so hard? It
I like the idea of releasing when ready. Its done when the team thinks its
ready and not because its being demanded by end users. In Linux Mint this
does alot of good because of having to clean up after ubuntu so much. The
releases are much more stable and polished. The way clement lefabre likes
2011/6/13 Lee Forest lee...@gmail.com:
I like the idea of releasing when ready. Its done when the team thinks its
ready and not because its being demanded by end users.
Yes. in a world without users this is the best solution. But there are
users. Giving them a when it's ready as release date
2011/6/13 Lee Forest lee...@gmail.com
I like the idea of releasing when ready. Its done when the team thinks its
ready and not because its being demanded by end users. In Linux Mint this
does alot of good because of having to clean up after ubuntu so much. The
releases are much more stable
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