Re: suggestion for Full Customization [Mailman-Developers]

2004-05-16 Thread Barry Warsaw
First off, I apologize for not having much time to interact with folks on this list. Hopefully I can improve that situation soon. Rather that respond to every message in this thread, I'll try to summarize my thoughts on this issue. First, IMO there's little we can do to stop spammers from using

Re: suggestion for Full Customization [Mailman-Developers]

2004-05-11 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
> "Stig" == Stig Sandbeck Mathisen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Stig> Many customers, who normally only use the net for web and Stig> mail, would prefer a mail being sent from Customer Service, Stig> and addressed to their own address, so that they know the Stig> mail was sent to

Re: suggestion for Full Customization [Mailman-Developers]

2004-05-11 Thread Brad Knowles
At 6:13 PM +0900 2004/05/11, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: FWIW, I agree with you and James. For an announcement list it makes sense to me that the editor's mailbox would be placed in the From header, and the alias for mass-mailing not be exposed at all. I think that would look more "profession

Re: suggestion for Full Customization [Mailman-Developers]

2004-05-11 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
> "somuchfun" == somuchfun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: somuchfun> I am literally shocked to see that you think everyone somuchfun> who does not agree with you is a Spamer! That's not what he said. He said he can't think of a good reason why a non-spammer would want to do this, while

Re: suggestion for Full Customization [Mailman-Developers]

2004-05-11 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:03 AM +0200 2004/05/11, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: Many customers, who normally only use the net for web and mail, would prefer a mail being sent from Customer Service, and addressed to their own address, so that they know the mail was sent to them, and that they can hit reply to get h

Re: suggestion for Full Customization [Mailman-Developers]

2004-05-11 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:03 AM +0200 2004/05/11, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: Many customers, who normally only use the net for web and mail, would prefer a mail being sent from Customer Service, and addressed to their own address, so that they know the mail was sent to them, and that they can hit reply to get h

Re: suggestion for Full Customization [Mailman-Developers]

2004-05-10 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:03 AM +0200 2004/05/11, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: Many customers, who normally only use the net for web and mail, would prefer a mail being sent from Customer Service, and addressed to their own address, so that they know the mail was sent to them, and that they can hit reply to get h

Re: suggestion for Full Customization [Mailman-Developers]

2004-05-10 Thread Stig Sandbeck Mathisen
On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 10:26:05AM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote: > This is a mailing list. Mailman is a mailing list manager. It > is not a "hidden address so you can spam" manager. We're not trying > to hide anything here, and I doubt that anyone is going to be > interested to see code in

RE: suggestion for Full Customization [Mailman-Developers]

2004-05-10 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:31 AM -0700 2004/05/10, Somuchfun wrote: You might want to ignore it but there are announcement lists and newsletters people actually want to get and this is not spam by definition. If I get a newsletter from United Airlines for example because I am a frequent traveler and I asked for it

RE: suggestion for Full Customization [Mailman-Developers]

2004-05-10 Thread Somuchfun
owles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 10, 2004 1:51 AM > To: James Ralston > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: suggestion for Full Customization [Mailman-Developers] > > At 2:54 AM -0400 2004/05/10, James Ralston wrote: > > > ...why would you even *wan

Re: suggestion for Full Customization [Mailman-Developers]

2004-05-10 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:54 AM -0400 2004/05/10, James Ralston wrote: ...why would you even *want* to have the listname for an announcement list exposed in the To and/or CC header of messages sent through the list? If a recipient replies to the list, it's just going to go to the moderators, right? In most cases

Re: suggestion for Full Customization [Mailman-Developers]

2004-05-09 Thread James Ralston
Brad, On 2004-05-06 at 10:26:05+02 Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 7:03 PM -0400 2004/05/05, James Ralston wrote: > > > If I have set the "personalize" option to "Full Personalization", > > a very likely reason why I have done so is because I don't *WANT* > > the recipient to reply

Re: suggestion for Full Customization [Mailman-Developers]

2004-05-06 Thread Brad Knowles
At 7:03 PM -0400 2004/05/05, James Ralston wrote: If I have set the "personalize" option to "Full Personalization", a very likely reason why I have done so is because I don't *WANT* the recipient to reply back to the list--or, for that matter, even realize that the message was sent through a m