Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM 2.1.12(rc2) backport for Ubuntu Hardy?

2009-04-26 Thread Adam McGreggor
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 01:17:26AM -0400, Cristóbal Palmer wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 01:12:26PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
  On Apr 22, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Adam McGreggor wrote:
 
  Just a quick query really (and possibly being slightly cheeky asking
  here...), but have any of you guys backported Mailman 2.1.12 from the
  Ubuntu Jaunty (or Debian 5) repos - Ubuntu Hardy?
 
 Not that one yet, but I have 2.1.11-12~ppa2 here:
 
 https://launchpad.net/~cristobalpalmer/+archive/ppa
 
 Took me a bit of stumbling to get it done. I wouldn't mind doing it again.

Ah, that would be useful. So far, I've got as far as building a new VM
(rather than building a new chroot; I've got some other bits I want to
play with, too). If you've got any notes on building it, could you point
us/me to them?

 I'm happy to volunteer, but could it please wait until after the 27th?
 That's my last exam this semester. :)

Sure!  (and bon chance!) ;) I ~may~ have a go at building one, if I get
bored/have nothing better to do tomorrow: might be interesting to
debdiff. Saying that, it takes me ages to ever do anything.


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Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM 2.1.12(rc2) backport for Ubuntu Hardy?

2009-04-26 Thread Barry Warsaw

On Apr 26, 2009, at 11:16 AM, Adam McGreggor wrote:


On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 01:17:26AM -0400, Cristóbal Palmer wrote:

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 01:12:26PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:

On Apr 22, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Adam McGreggor wrote:

Just a quick query really (and possibly being slightly cheeky  
asking
here...), but have any of you guys backported Mailman 2.1.12 from  
the

Ubuntu Jaunty (or Debian 5) repos - Ubuntu Hardy?


Not that one yet, but I have 2.1.11-12~ppa2 here:

https://launchpad.net/~cristobalpalmer/+archive/ppa

Took me a bit of stumbling to get it done. I wouldn't mind doing it  
again.


Ah, that would be useful. So far, I've got as far as building a new VM
(rather than building a new chroot; I've got some other bits I want to
play with, too). If you've got any notes on building it, could you  
point

us/me to them?

I'm happy to volunteer, but could it please wait until after the  
27th?

That's my last exam this semester. :)


Sure!  (and bon chance!) ;) I ~may~ have a go at building one, if I  
get

bored/have nothing better to do tomorrow: might be interesting to
debdiff. Saying that, it takes me ages to ever do anything.


Thanks for helping out here.  Please let me know if there's anything I  
can do to help.  At some point we'll probably want to give you  
permission to create packages in an official Mailman team in  
Launchpad, whether that's ~mailman-coders or another team specifically  
for the PPAs.


-Barry



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Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM 2.1.12(rc2) backport for Ubuntu Hardy?

2009-04-24 Thread Cristóbal Palmer
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 01:12:26PM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
 On Apr 22, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Adam McGreggor wrote:

 Just a quick query really (and possibly being slightly cheeky asking
 here...), but have any of you guys backported Mailman 2.1.12 from the
 Ubuntu Jaunty (or Debian 5) repos - Ubuntu Hardy?

Not that one yet, but I have 2.1.11-12~ppa2 here:

https://launchpad.net/~cristobalpalmer/+archive/ppa

Took me a bit of stumbling to get it done. I wouldn't mind doing it again.

 providing PPAs for folks who want to run the latest and greatest.  I  
 don't have much packaging-fu but if someone wants to volunteer to do the 
 heavily lifting, I'd be happy to twiddle the Launchpad bits.

I'm happy to volunteer, but could it please wait until after the 27th?
That's my last exam this semester. :)

Cheers,
-- 
Cristóbal Palmer
ibiblio.org systems administrator
cdla.unc.edu research assistant
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Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM 2.1.12(rc2) backport for Ubuntu Hardy?

2009-04-23 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, April 22, 2009 19:12, Barry Warsaw wrote:
 On Apr 22, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Adam McGreggor wrote:


 Just a quick query really (and possibly being slightly cheeky asking
 here...), but have any of you guys backported Mailman 2.1.12 from the
 Ubuntu Jaunty (or Debian 5) repos - Ubuntu Hardy?


 I can't seem to find anything with an internet search, and I'd rather
 not repeat the efforts, if someone's already done it (as it's been quite
 some time since I last backported something)

 I have not.  I'm not sure who's packaging Mailman for Ubuntu (I might
 be able to find someone to ask wink), but I could certainly see us
 providing PPAs for folks who want to run the latest and greatest.  I don't
 have much packaging-fu but if someone wants to volunteer to do the heavily
 lifting, I'd be happy to twiddle the Launchpad bits.

Mailman in Ubuntu is essentially Mailman in Debian: the Ubuntu package is
a verbatim copy of the Debian one.

Unfortunately our maintenance team currently has the volunteer manpower to
just keep up, but not to extend its tasks, so we're not really involving
ourselves in extra backporting efforts. (BTW: if anyone on this list is
interested in improving the Debian/Ubuntu packaging of Mailman they're
welcome to join our team! Contact me to get started)

However, I don't think it should be complex to backport it, so I urge you
to just try and do it. One catch may be that in the 2.1.12-1 package
version we cleaned up a number of old compatibility/upgrading measures for
old releases, which may be relevant again if you backport it. But I think
you'll encounter it along the way if that's the case.


cheers,
Thijs

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Re: [Mailman-Developers] MM 2.1.12(rc2) backport for Ubuntu Hardy?

2009-04-22 Thread Barry Warsaw

On Apr 22, 2009, at 1:01 PM, Adam McGreggor wrote:


Just a quick query really (and possibly being slightly cheeky asking
here...), but have any of you guys backported Mailman 2.1.12 from the
Ubuntu Jaunty (or Debian 5) repos - Ubuntu Hardy?

I can't seem to find anything with an internet search, and I'd rather
not repeat the efforts, if someone's already done it (as it's been  
quite

some time since I last backported something)


I have not.  I'm not sure who's packaging Mailman for Ubuntu (I might  
be able to find someone to ask wink), but I could certainly see us  
providing PPAs for folks who want to run the latest and greatest.  I  
don't have much packaging-fu but if someone wants to volunteer to do  
the heavily lifting, I'd be happy to twiddle the Launchpad bits.


-Barry



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