On 7/14/07 12:42 PM, Zbigniew Szalbot at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Hello,
>
>> As Larry Stone mentioned, just put something in the headers and
>> footers of every message, which tells AOL users that they will have
>> their entire domain permanently banned fr
ld AOL send such a useless email?
Because it's AOL? :-)
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pplications/Mailman/bin/qrunner
--r
449 ?? S 4:04.08 /usr/bin/python /Applications/Mailman/bin/qrunner
--r
450 ?? S 0:00.85 /usr/bin/python /Applications/Mailman/bin/qrunner
--r
16621 std R+ 0:00.00 grep -i python
(The numbers will vary. The important thing is that you s
ted admin.
It has to. Admin isn't private so a list that appeared on admin isn't
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is best asked in Postfix support
resources.
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sendmail configured to listen on localhost (127.0.0.1) as well the host's
TCP/IP address. I'm have very little sendmail experience (and what I have is
years ago) but I know for some of the other MTAs you must explicitly
configure it to listen to localhost separately from the outside TCP/IP
r). Postfix,
> Sendmail, qmail, exim, etc.
And if you're wondering what MTA stands for, it's Mail Transfer Agent.
Likewise, the e-mail client that use (be it Outlook, Eudora, Pine, a
web-mail client, any of the genericly named "Mail" programs, or
.py
> MTA = None # No MTA alias processing required
You need:
MTA = 'Postfix'
And then you need to tell Postfix where they are. In my postfix main.cf, I
have:
# Needed for Mailman
alias_maps=hash:/etc/postfix/aliases,
hash:/path_to_mailman/data/aliases
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f the site
password. I assume if Approved was misspelled in a header or as the first
line of the message, it would be included in the message if it was
susequently approved by a moderator or met other critieria for not needing
moderation.
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0.0.0.0:*
> LISTEN 21340/exim4
>
> with 130.83.2.184 being the server's IP.
I'm no expert but I think just because it's listening to 130.83.2.184 on
port 25 does not mean it's listening to localhost (127.0.0.1) on port 25.
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many other people here have. This list
is exclusively for the support of Mailman which is mailing list software.
If someone suggested to you this is the place to ask about Freepbx, they're
wrong. You need to find an appropriate support forum on your own.
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there are to be false positives.
If there was some way to include a magic flag in a message that said "this
is not spam", don't you think all the spammers would include that in their
spam?
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nd).
The sender who received this wouldn't by chance by on AOL? I've seen other
reports that indicate AOL gives up after three hours. A ridculously short
period of time and one that is guaranteed to generate a relatively large
number of bounces.
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ix and there was no need for me to change SENDMAIL_CMD
to make it work.
> I recall something about that VERP should have been set up at
> installation, but isn't there any way to do it afterwards?
No. I added VERP much later.
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;t help you a bit with that problem. Mailman is a mailing list
server, not a mail server. And how are you going to read this reply if you
have no incoming mail?
> I also have .Mac
Completely irrelevant. Why don't you tell us what problem you are trying to
solve.
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On 9/28/06 9:16 PM, Barry Warsaw at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> Hash: SHA1
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> On Sep 28, 2006, at 8:45 PM, Larry Stone wrote:
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>> This all made me curious. I'm just a user of Mailman on Mac OS X - no
>> development of any sor
man 2.2 comes along. Maybe
Leopard will come with a later version of python. But I am curious and this
sort of exercise does help me understand how the various pieces fit
together.
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ny people would
benefit. Granted, I'm a sample of one but having now checked out what is it,
it just makes think "what's the big deal?" Certainly not something I see
adding a lot of value. If I'm reading it right, Gmane does mail to Usenet
gateway. How does that add v
the account edit window. Since that's not a Mailman
issue, ask me off-line if you need more information.
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ht and I may be all wet here but is it possible the user is
sending to an alias for the listname, possibly an alternative hostname for
the machine, that mailman doesn't know is an acceptable alternative and
therefore considers it to an implicit destination?
For example, mailman expects lists.examp
when the original didn't.
I only noticed this recently when I did a mailing using a list of about
1,400 addresses from the state association of which 300 turned out to be
bad, mostly for no such user. Besides everything else, that's extra load
on the MTA that doesn't need to be t
year and all the relevant logs have aged off the system so I can't say
if the specific error I'm getting is the same "Service Unavailable" in the
OP's log extract.
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On 6/15/06 10:13 PM, Peter Tattersall at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> On 15-Jun-06, at 10:28 PM, Larry Stone wrote:
>> Not so fast. I have postfix running on my Macintosh and my output of
>> netstat
>> -ln -p tcp shows nothing for port 25.
>>
>
> I have the
st one other suitable IP
> address.25
Not so fast. I have postfix running on my Macintosh and my output of netstat
-ln -p tcp shows nothing for port 25.
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the <> characters ARE included in
> the above??
No they are not. Just
Approved: password
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the stuff is
small but there's probably no reason to install the Developer Documentation,
Developer Example Software or any of the stuff not selected by default which
will save you over a GB. Also note that if you not install the BSD subsystem
as part of you Mac OS X install,
ot; and I immediately unsubscribe the perp and ban him
from the mail server. The bounce refers to a web page with instructions on
how to apply for reinstatement after a year. Until then, they're off. I
run the lists as a service to them. I could not care less if they're
At best they lose a "fun" message. At worst, one of the soccer referees I
assign loses out on an assignment (I'm a volunteer but they get paid) -
maybe when they realize that lack of reliable mail delivery is costing them
money, they'll change.
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MacOS X server, OTOH, has all that plus
already has an Apple-modified version of mailman.
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005, Larry Stone wrote:
> A cryptic message to be sure but I think it's trying to tell you it can't
> resolve lists.familyvoices.org. When I try to lookup that name, I get a
> SERVFAIL error which means your DNS is not set up correctly and the server
> is
ties up the connection for
about five minutes (I VERP all messages so to send to those 150 members
means 150 seperate messages going up the DSL line).
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p that name, I get a
SERVFAIL error which means your DNS is not set up correctly and the server
is encountering an error when trying to resolve lists.familyvoices.org.
Fix that, then see what happens.
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as called
Outlook Express but had nothing in common with Outlook Express for Windows.
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sually depend on the GUI parts of OSX Server.
Ah... If it were a self-installed mailman on non-Server OS X, we can be a
lot of help. But there seems to be little knowledge here of Apple's somewhat
proprietary installation of Mailman on OS X Server. Reports indicate that
there is
nd I
> have the option "Should a digest be dispatched daily when the size
> threshold isn't reached?" set to YES. But it is not sending out a
> Daily Digest although there are posts in the queue.
Digest sending is done by cron. Do you have the cron piece of Mailman set
up
In September 2004, I posted on this topic with instructions for installing
mailman on MacOS X 10.3 (Panther). Today, I just finished upgrading my
mailman installation to 2.1.6 on a system I upgraded to Tiger (10.4) a few
weeks ago. At the same time, I updated the startup to Apple's new way of
start
MTA problem, not a
Mailman issue. Sounds like your provider has him blocked for some reason.
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m. That was an
upgrade from Panther and involved minimal work to get it working again
(primarily in the Apache configuration). I hope to get it documented soon.
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On 6/2/05 7:57 PM, Brad Knowles at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> At 7:50 PM -0500 2005-06-02, Larry Stone wrote:
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>> Brad, I realize this is getting a little off of Mailman but how is that
>> different from what a BCC does? A BCC "header" is local to the originating
nts. So from the view of the MTA, isn't what you say
Mailman does exactly the same as what the MUA does with a BCC?
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list, then have them reset it after the message is sent.
See <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.034.htp>
about how to use an "Approved" header to deal with this issue.
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o actually causes me problems - it changes the
permissions on /var/mail to something pine does not like.
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that the message never sends from mailman. Any help in
> troubleshooting would be great.
All that log excerpt shows is the mail was delivered to mailman. You need to
take a look at mailman's logs (in (prefix)/mailman/logs) to see what is
going on within mailman.
But let
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to this list. If you
report this message as spam, you will be unsubscribed and banned from this
server." While it hasn't happened since, if one does get reported as spam, I
do mean it about banning them from the server. Right into my Postfix
sender_check
after From) plus a Return-Path: header which also has the envelope
sender in it. Looking at my mailman archives, the pseudo-From is there but
not the Return-Path: header.
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is a shell command and as I would expect, it was truncated at the ampersand
and presumably executed in the background.
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On 2/17/05 6:54 AM, Larry Stone at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> While it's been quite a while, I also recall getting the bogus subscription
> confirmation email from that site. At the time, I had no reason to associate
> it with my subscribing to this mailman list so if it is, then
gested, it seems to be associated with the your first posting to the
list, not subscribing.
FWIW, web browser is Safari (Macintosh).
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t and let us know if it
works.
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Searchable Ar
On 1/20/05 4:57 PM, José Zapata at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Stopped exactly after one day. I didn't catch it before. What could be
> happening?
Some sort of system daemon set up to not let any program (other than
operating system stuff obviously) run more than 24 hours?
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> infested world with 2.0.7.
Like I said, a different ISP would be the best choice.
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Alias directive for /pipermail/. For that matter, I
don't see that directive in the afp548.com article you referenced so I
don't know why you think you want that there (but I'm an Apache neophyte -
I just followed the directions I received).
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Postfix running with Postfix Enabler and then see the note I
wrote on getting Mailman running on Panther (client)
<http://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2004-September/039600.html>.
So long as you can follow directions, it is easy to get Mailman running on
MacOS X.
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In July, I posted on this topic with my best recollection of how I installed
mailman on MacOS X 10.3. Today, I finally had a chance to try out my own
instructions on my test system. There were a few minor mistakes so here is
the corrected and tested version:
Successful Panther (MacOS X 10.3) insta
al file, it's hard to know what's really there and
what's the result of some program trying to turn something undisplayable
into something that's displayable.
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ated and .forward file lookups.
# Basically, the software tries user+foo and .forward+foo before
# trying user and .forward.
#
#recipient_delimiter = +
Uncomment the command, restart, and it should work.
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As requested by Brad, here is:
Successful Panther (MacOS X 10.3) installation steps for Mailman
This document best recalls my experience installing Mailman (2.1.4 but I
assume this is equally valid for 2.1.5 which was current when this was
written) on MacOS X 10.3 (Panther). It is largely based o
man installed in
/Applications/Mailman (that's the Applications folder when viewed from the
Mac Desktop).
I wish I could be more helpful but it's very doable and didn't take a lot of
work.
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