[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-17 Thread Jon Baron
In view of Stephen Turnbull's comments, I changed my mind and will respond to the list. I was the "original poster" (OP?) about the strange "group mismatch" error in my log. It complained about the user "baron" (my own account on the server) not matching the required list of groups. Several people

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Christian Buser via Mailman-Users writes: > You know that in a mailing list everyone should help if he can and > not only consume? Technically correct, but please don't be so antagonistic. > So then, please unsubscribe here. What you do with your own filters is your business, but for the

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-17 Thread Christian Buser via Mailman-Users
Ah so… You found another way to fix the main problem - but you do not tell us? You know that in a mailing list everyone should help if he can and not only consume? So then, please unsubscribe here. Thank you Christian -- Christian Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland)

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-17 Thread Jon Baron
I would like to thank everyone for all the ideas about my group-mismatch problem. As it happens, nothing helped. Moreover, almost all of the speculations about what I was doing or not doing, using or not using, know or do not know, were incorrect. I found another way to fix the main problem,

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/16/22 19:27, Carl Zwanzig wrote: On 5/16/2022 4:31 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: That's a Debian 'feature'. Which then makes me wonder if there are other Debian "features" getting in the way. No. It's a simple group mismatch. The OP has to arrange for the process that pipes the mail to

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-16 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Lucio Chiappetti writes: > On Sun, 15 May 2022, Jon Baron wrote: > > > I am trying to use spamassassin by running everything through > > /etc/procmail, > > Sorru, I do not understand what procmail and spamassassin, intended to > process INCOMING mail, have to do with mailman which is

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-16 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 5/16/2022 4:31 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: That's a Debian 'feature'. Which then makes me wonder if there are other Debian "features" getting in the way. z! -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-16 Thread Julian H. Stacey
> Also: procmail is antique abandonware that no one should use in 2022, > but it can be very hard to replace. I have a massive time investment in working procmail rules. Use is not abandoned here. "If it aint broke dont fix it." ;-) Cheers, -- Julian Stacey http://berklix.com/jhs/

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-16 Thread dmitri maziuk
On 2022-05-16 3:31 PM, Bill Cole wrote: ... SpamAssassin can be used as a milter during the SMTP transaction or as a filter in the delivery pipeline via a delivery agent like procmail. Using procmail is generally suboptimal, but it may be the only mechanism available for an end user to deploy

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-16 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/16/22 16:18, Carl Zwanzig wrote: One thing is odd about the message above, it says "one of the groups" whereas some versions (eg 2.1.25) have "Mailman expected the %s wrapper to be executed as group" (singular). Could be that the OP's version is rather old. That's a Debian 'feature'.

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-16 Thread Carl Zwanzig
Going back to the original email- On 5/15/2022 4:35 PM, Jon Baron wrote: "Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the mail wrapper script to be executed as one of the following groups: [mail, postfix, mailman, nobody, daemon], but the system's mail server executed the mail script as group:

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-16 Thread Bill Cole
On 2022-05-16 at 12:32:54 UTC-0400 (Mon, 16 May 2022 18:32:54 +0200 (CEST)) Lucio Chiappetti is rumored to have said: On Sun, 15 May 2022, Jon Baron wrote: I am trying to use spamassassin by running everything through /etc/procmail, Sorru, I do not understand what procmail and

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-16 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Sun, 15 May 2022, Jon Baron wrote: I am trying to use spamassassin by running everything through /etc/procmail, Sorru, I do not understand what procmail and spamassassin, intended to process INCOMING mail, have to do with mailman which is SENDING OUT mail. I still have a few almost-dead

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-16 Thread Carl Zwanzig
On 5/16/2022 3:42 AM, Jon Baron wrote: procmail is not "running". It is not listed in any version of "ps". It is evoked by sendmail or by /etc/aliases.db. sendmail and aliases.db are both owned by root and smmsp. It is "run" or "envoked" on-demand by sendmail to execute the line in the

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-16 Thread Jon Baron
Thanks to both. But I'm afraid that this advice does not help, and I am giving up. I suspect that what I am trying to do is impossible. And I also think I was going about it wrong. I was trying to use /etc/aliases to get the mail to go to procmail, with lines like this: Method 1 jdm-society:

[Mailman-Users] Re: group mismatch

2022-05-15 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 5/15/22 16:35, Jon Baron wrote: I'm sure this is a very dumb question, because I have seen several posts about it, all of which imply that there is some simple solution. I am trying to use spamassassin by running everything through /etc/procmail, and I get the following in /var/log/procmail:

[Mailman-Users] Re: Group Mismatch Error

2020-10-25 Thread Dennis Putnam
On 10/25/2020 11:48 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 10/25/20 7:37 AM, Dennis Putnam wrote: > >> This is still a bit confusing. I need to state that 'fetchmail' is >> involved here. I don't know how it interfaces but I have the >> 'postmaster' parameter in 'fetchmailrc' set to 'mailman'. This was not

[Mailman-Users] Re: Group Mismatch Error

2020-10-25 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/25/20 7:37 AM, Dennis Putnam wrote: > This is still a bit confusing. I need to state that 'fetchmail' is > involved here. I don't know how it interfaces but I have the > 'postmaster' parameter in 'fetchmailrc' set to 'mailman'. This was not > an issue with the previous version of mailman so

[Mailman-Users] Re: Group Mismatch Error

2020-10-25 Thread Dennis Putnam
On 10/24/2020 6:57 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 10/24/20 3:10 PM, Dennis Putnam wrote: >> I am getting this error: >> >> (expanded from ): >> Command died with status 2: "/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post >> cufsalumni". Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the >>

[Mailman-Users] Re: Group Mismatch Error

2020-10-24 Thread Mark Sapiro
On 10/24/20 3:10 PM, Dennis Putnam wrote: > I am getting this error: > > (expanded from ): > Command died with status 2: "/usr/lib/mailman/mail/mailman post > cufsalumni". Command output: Group mismatch error. Mailman expected the > mail wrapper script to be executed as group