to specified forums (adding a specified tag
for topic detection).
I will post word when/if I have significant progress.
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, but this assumes that everyone who messes up where to
send the replies has their program properly set up to add the Re:
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to
be able to import the existing lists from the old server. (And will
probably do at least one dry run of the migration to a different
domain name just to make sure I know how to do this and that things
work before moving the live site).
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positives, you may want something
more like
Subject: .*remove.*list.*
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-bounces, so you
probably need that one. There is also listname-admin defined, which I
think is just an alias for listname-bounces, and I don't think the
list itself actually addresses anything to that.
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lists, will all have the same message-id.
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to unsubscribe (and a hosted service
isn't going to let you change that), if you want to not allow this, your
best bet is with social/political rules with appropriate penalties for
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work. Forcing someone
to receive messages just doesn't work, there needs to be enough value in
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I run a large community based mailing list using mailman (version 2.1.9,
I know a bit old, but that is what the hosting service provides) and I
have a couple of users that while normally ok, at times get into
arguments with each other on the list. A thought came up, would it be
possible to
On 9/27/11 5:33 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Richard Damon wrote:
The question is, can a spam filter be set up to check both the From
fields and the To/CC fields?
Yes, but it's awkward at best. header_filter_rules are Python regular
expressions that are matched against the entire set of message
On 9/28/11 5:06 AM, Malcolm Austen wrote:
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 17:10:34 +0100, Richard Damon
rich...@damon-family.org wrote:
I run a large community based mailing list using mailman (version
2.1.9, I know a bit old, but that is what the hosting service
provides) and I have a couple of users
On 10/4/11 11:04 AM, Dennis Putnam wrote:
Thanks for the reply. The information that I want to add to the monthly
reminder is specific to the members of one particular list. While I
guess it does not hurt to send it to all lists if I word it correctly,
it would be nice to have list specific
can get a message to
one email address indicating that another, unrelated, email address is
subscribed to the list.
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as the simplest
way to confirm, with the web link as a backup. I am tempted to rewrite
the message to ask them to click the link first, and save the reply
option as a backup if they can't follow a link.
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if it does default to this sort of restriction, it should
have some way to override it, but that may not be exposed in the PLESK
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for iMM (might help if I
knew German which I don't).
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On 3/8/12 6:00 AM, Manuel Weiel wrote:
Am 08.03.2012 um 05:36 schrieb Richard Damon:
On 3/7/12 9:45 PM, Manuel Weiel wrote:
Hello,
I've once again updated iMailModerate.
It now allows adding and removing subscribers and it fixes some small
issues.
So if you do not own it yet, get
for not letting you know that they got the message, it will always
be unreliable, and there will always be a significant number of people
who have read the message without letting you know of it (unless you put
the message in the image, or on a link, so the have to go to the net to
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ISP with the complaint.
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the This is spam button, if you have done some
pre-vetting to be sure the person is likely interested, and made the
message clearly personal and not bulk, will minimize the chances of them
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out the form, but the bot won't be patient enough
to do that).
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On 12/14/12 10:58 PM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
Richard Damon wrote:
For other types of bots, having a key on the page that is needed to be
returned will help, as it will catch bots that know what the
subscription form looks like and just go around trying to submit it.
Even better is to give out
Accept that matches the message will override this filter.
Also, note that I think the filter it tested BEFORE the [MYLIST] is
added to the subject by the list, so is only there to be matched if it
was in the original email.
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In the list options, Privacy / Sender filters there is an option Action to
take for postings from non-members for which no explicit action is defined,
set that to discard, and unless the post matches some other filter, it will be
automatically discarded. If you have command line access (which
tests.
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On 4/3/13 8:35 AM, jdd wrote:
Le 03/04/2013 14:11, Richard Damon a écrit :
De: fcouchet@apri
This indicates that your list is setup to not allow bcc, and that the
destination address
I added the from adress (fcouchet@apri) in the said field, is
this you call destination
On 4/4/13 1:42 AM, jdd wrote:
Le 04/04/2013 03:58, Richard Damon a écrit :
It looks like this message was sent to the list via the email address
all-april@ (which looks like a local address, since it doesn't have a
domain),
as I said, I removed the domain part (on my report) to prevent spam
a daily rather than a monthly quota.)
There is a fourth case, Host Provider sends the emails then sends you a
bill for the overage at the rate specified in the contract. This could
be very expensive for going that much over limit.
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to approved people, so when the subscription comes in, you approve
the PERSON to receive the list, if they then chose to receive the list
at a different address, that shouldn't be an issue.
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with them, and the order of this scan
matches the order in the admin interface.
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processes its sending independently, and
don't know about the details of the interlocking subscriptions, so I
don;t think there is any way to stop the multiple emails in this case.
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moderation and actively limit their posting.
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that it was better to place these as separate
mime sections, where it is guaranteed that they are visible (at least as
an attachment), than the tack them into a message in a way where they
might not be visible at all, and may even break the existing formatting
of the original message.
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it
as an attachment).
Note also, the problem ONLY occurs with HTML formatted messages, not
plain text, as for plain text messages it is safe to just add them, as
there is no formatting to get in the way.
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a
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it to the list, because Google
removed the list distributed one, because the poster had a copy of the
message in their outbox.
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message that is reintroduced by a
user into the transport system.
and later
They MUST NOT be used in the normal processing of replies or other such
automatic actions on messages.
Mailman isn't really a user, and is automatic so I think the second
clause is more applicable.
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On 11/13/13, 10:04 AM, Mark Sapiro wrote:
On 11/13/2013 05:26 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 11/13/13, 1:57 AM, Fletcher Cocquyt wrote:
That is, they login once to approve a message, and after what time will the
webui require them to provide their credentials again for the next
moderation
replies sent to, you will break this for them.
(The are links to fuller discussion on this at the option).
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whose post has been held, or add non-subscribers to the
auto-approval or auto-reject lists or ban them from subscribing.
These are the powers of a moderator.
Managing Subscriptions is an administrator duty in Mailman.
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memory, or just put it aside, while it has been in the
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, the domains
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in a folder sorted by subject. When I get a new notice I can see
previous messages about the person. If you put a person on moderation,
you could send yourself a message with that same subject, recording why
they were put on moderation.
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set up
a forwarding for them that they forgot about, it isn't so easy.
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in the manner that they are often configured in.
Read the archives for a list of possible options.
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to
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they changed to that would cause the SPF match on Envelope to no longer
override the DKIM error.
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On 4/13/14, 9:06 PM, Peter Shute wrote:
Richard Damon wrote:
My guess on how this works is that when you deliver to Gmail,
one message will actually have many recipients, and you will
get just a single rejection, which will be charged to the
first person on the list by mailman. How
if
Yahoo, when it started, touted that it was offering an identity
protection service where people could know your emails come from you,
with the provision that you had to send all your email via their system
and couldn't post to mailing list with that account.
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that you can easily
find recent messages in, and then be able to reply back to the list via
the web site. I will need to look at some of those options to see if any
would help in my needs.
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but fails DKIM.
Was that option just put in to allow an organization to just implement
SPF (and ignore DKIM), but change SPF to require the alignment to From: ?
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message (but in a way that makes it
clear which is which).
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that
won't cause a problem (like adding .invalid to the domain of the
address). Again, this would be a pain if you can't automate it.
My own opinion is that if there is any way you can upgrade to 2.1.18-1,
do that, anything less will be draconian or a pain.
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On 5/24/14, 6:26 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Richard Damon writes:
From what I have seen, any version of Mailman before 2.1.16 (and
preferably 2.1.18) just isn't compatible with DMARC
Please, it's the other way around! ;-) DMARC is the interloper, and
some insiders fear
on their behalf (unless
the standard allows a given email address to provide a cert to a 3rd
party it indicate they are an authorized remailer for them). This should
deal with the phish problem, at least once people are taught to look for
the verified icon from important sources.
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tests have been done with verp or personalization
enabled? That might have made the slicing work per recipient as the
messages were broken up before sending.
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On 5/25/14, 11:30 AM, Mark Rousell wrote:
(Not sent to list previously, apologies).
On 25/05/2014 01:00, Richard Damon wrote:
The problem isn't DMARC, the problem is it's abuse by Yahoo and AOL.
These are big players, and it isn't really practical for lists to just
say they are breaking
if you are not getting a digest, but that is different than
what you are saying).
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Well, won't this break DKIM?
Regards
Bjoern
If they didn't break DKIM already, they wouldn't need to do this, as
they could leave From: unchanged and pass DMARC!
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and dropped. It is not
checking for the messages being identical, it is detecting
duplicates, as defined by the RFCs for Email (if two messages are
different, they must have different Message-ID:s).
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subscribe to the
Mime-Digest, you will even get messages with headers.
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of Internet Message Format.
i have have now many alternatives.
1) the proposal from Richard Damon
2) a second account on gmail
3) a non-gmail account like gmx (i have) or a new riseup account
Many thanks for your proposals.
But, please, let us discuss more about the principles. I don't analyse
(these are different names for the same mailbox).
Getting a second regular subscription won't do anything, but I was
suggesting adding a DIGEST subscription, which will arrive (eventually)
and thus giving you confirmation that the message did go through.
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to automatically reject them (though the reject
message will not be very helpful).
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(and if there are more than
a chunk worth that begin with that letter, broken into chunk sized pieces).
If you change the chunk size to be larger than the number of members on
the list (and isn't so big that mailman chokes on it), then you will get
a full listing of members.
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that Volumes are typically done on an Annual basis, but I could
imagine using Monthly for a very active list.
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the 200 per hour limit every time someone posts or responds ... we have
over 900 active members.
Russell Woodford
Geelong
Australia
Have you tried changing your chunck-size to be 1000 (more than the
number of members?)
It is on the General Options page.
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Mailman tries (and I think succeeds) at not letting an outsider know who
is subscribed to a list (unless the list publishes its member list, then
that list will reveal those who don't hide their email address.)
If you want to help someone unsubscribe without them needing to use the
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On 2/13/15 11:41 AM, Tapia, Rene wrote:
Hello,
A while back I replaced our older Mailman Server with a SLES 11 SP3 Server. The
Mailman Version is 2.1.14. Everything is running fine for the most past.
The only issue that I have is that when certain large email lists send emails
containing
On 2/14/15 5:51 AM, adam morris wrote:
Hi all,
I'm new to mailman.
I run 4 fairly small lists.
I found somewhere but can't remember where the ability to send a
message to people if they send a message to a list and they are not
subscribed.
I could put a message somewhere that they will see to
to generally have this behavior, but only allow messages
destined to certain addresses be BCCed to the list, then you can add
those addresses to the second item on that page (acceptable_aliases)
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the list I am given 3 options:
Reply
Reply All
Reply to List
The Reply to List option is made available by the List-Post header I
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multiple Re:
unless the list also removed those (which makes it harder to see which
are replies) You will get the multiple Re: as the normal rule is add Re
unless the message already begins with one, and your moved tag makes the
re no longer in front, so it won't suppress adding it again.
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Hi All,
Is there a way to report on unsubscribes over time?
Thanks,
Dave
You could archive the unsubscribe notifications sent to the owner
(enable them if needed) and then process them.
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disappear. Perhaps using a long-lived login cookie, but that has other
security issues, and I am not positive that iOS browsers keep those
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setup a filter ( Privacy SPAM Filters ) to detect messages From:
them and set the disposition to discard.
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overseen?
Set the members moderated and set member_moderation_action to Discard.
I guess if I would do so, this could mean that I myself won't be able to
send postings to the list, too, right?
---Ulf Dunkel
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The only thing I can think of is to require approval of all subscriptions (and
maybe confirmation) and then build a regexp to auto approve all addresses
without a + in them. I don't know how this will interact with the ban list (if
you need that).
> On Sep 15, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Gibbs, David
essages, and you
will get into this sort of trouble.
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, then they are going to need to pay
their MSP for the additional IP addresses to make that happen.
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d. (Ask your
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be like
going to the doctor and saying 'I'm sick, fix me' and not letting them
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I have the option admin_immed_notify turned on, and with that an email is sent
immediately to the moderator email address that includes as an attachment a
complete copy of the message as sent.I find this very useful to check the
message for anything funny. My mailing list is 'Plain Text Only'
e list
name and and added suffix, one of which is -request, which allows you to
manipulate your email subscription via email (including the initial
subscription).
How did you subscribe to this list?
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at the Anonymous List option on the General Options
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Recipient filters / Alias Names )
list2 won't be a list in the sense of having a subscription page or its
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is to what level does Python email
libraries support these extensions and how easy is it to figure out how
the local email system will handle messages that attempt to use them.
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