[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
Hello Tom Corcoran. On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 10:22:45 +, you wrote: > Thanks, Christian! I set up the forwarders and deleted the mailing > lists! So much unnecessary pain over the years! Ah - you had a mailinglist with the same name as the mail address to be forwarded. Possible that this does not work. Good to hear that it works now. Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: https://www.chance-for-children.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 22:36, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > You are correct. A forwarder does not need a corresponding email > account. To see what happened to your test email, try using the Track > Delivery tool within the Email section of cPanel. > Thanks, Brian, I never knew about hat tool, that will come in handy. The emails turned up in my box overnight with the same arrival time as sent time even though they did not show for at least up to an hour initially when I was refreshing webmail. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
Hello Tom Corcoran. On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 22:23:45 +, you wrote: >> I have a cPanel account with webhostingbuzz.com and I have 2 forwarders >> set up so that anything sent to b...@mydomain.com goes to m...@mydomain.com >> and myw...@mydomain.com. >> What's stopping you from doing that? >> > > Fantastic, great to hear, thanks. In forwarders I added an non existant > email t...@mydomain.com forwarding to my regaular email address. And a > seperate forwarder from t...@mydomain.com to my wife's. An hour later I > have not got this email. I don't think the "address to forward" has to be > setup as an email address separately No, it does not. Just send a message to t...@mydomain.com. If the end destinations of the forwarder(s) exist, the message will be sent to all of them if addressed to t...@mydomain.com. I have several such forwarders to several addresses. They all work great. Christian -- Christian F. Buser, Hohle Gasse 6, CH-5507 Mellingen (Switzerland) Hilfe fuer Strassenkinder in Ghana: https://www.chance-for-children.org -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
On 11/10/20 5:23 PM, Tom Corcoran wrote: Fantastic, great to hear, thanks. In forwarders I added an non existant emailt...@mydomain.com forwarding to my regaular email address. And a seperate forwarder fromt...@mydomain.com to my wife's. An hour later I have not got this email. I don't think the "address to forward" has to be setup as an email address separately - I already have a bunch of aliases of my own address setup. That said I'm unsure why I have not got the email sent to test You are correct. A forwarder does not need a corresponding email account. To see what happened to your test email, try using the Track Delivery tool within the Email section of cPanel. -- Brian Carpenter Harmonylists.com Emwd.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
Hi Tel2 On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 21:04, wrote: > > I have a cPanel account with webhostingbuzz.com and I have 2 forwarders > set up so that anything sent to b...@mydomain.com goes to m...@mydomain.com > and myw...@mydomain.com. > What's stopping you from doing that? > Fantastic, great to hear, thanks. In forwarders I added an non existant email t...@mydomain.com forwarding to my regaular email address. And a seperate forwarder from t...@mydomain.com to my wife's. An hour later I have not got this email. I don't think the "address to forward" has to be setup as an email address separately - I already have a bunch of aliases of my own address setup. That said I'm unsure why I have not got the email sent to test Tom. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
Hi again Tom, "If my isp will clear them one last time that should be the end of it then." If they won't do it, then I guess you'll have to delete and recreate the whole mailing list. (Unless the experts have a simpler way which can be performed on cPanel hosts.) But see my other post about using multiple forwards instead of a list. Tel2 -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
Hi Tom, "Maybe there is a CPanel option to do this other than mailing lists, I have not found it. Forwarders do not alow 1 address to be forwarded to 2 as far as I can see." I have a cPanel account with webhostingbuzz.com and I have 2 forwarders set up so that anything sent to b...@mydomain.com goes to m...@mydomain.com and myw...@mydomain.com. What's stopping you from doing that? Tel2 -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 04:47, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 11/9/20 9:22 AM, Tom Corcoran wrote: > > > > Would mailman consider adding a bypass option so it simply forwards the > > emails to the 2 email addresses on the mailing list? > > As I indicate in my prior replies, just set > > Non-digest options -> scrub_nondigest = No > Digest options -> digestable = No > Archiving Options -> archive = No > > and nothing will be stored in the archive. > This sounds great, thanks. The digest option is the one I had not set. Going into Non-digest the first option "Can subscribers choose to receive mail immediately, rather than in batched digests" is turned on by default but I have the lower scrub option set to No. If my isp will clear them one last time that should be the end of it then. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
On Tue, 10 Nov 2020 at 04:40, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 11/9/20 9:22 AM, Tom Corcoran wrote: > > > > I am unsure how setting Digest options -> digestible to No would help? > > There are no digests sent anyway, my wife has no reason to go into the > > options, etc. > > > It helps because if the list is digestable, the plain text digest is > created and non-plain text attachments are scrubbed and stored in the > archive even if there are no digest recipients. The way to avoid this > scrubbing and storing aside of attachments from the digest is to set > Digest options -> digestible to No. If the list is not digestable, > digests won't be created. > Makes sense, mine was set to True though I never used digests. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
On 11/9/20 9:22 AM, Tom Corcoran wrote: > > Would mailman consider adding a bypass option so it simply forwards the > emails to the 2 email addresses on the mailing list? As I indicate in my prior replies, just set Non-digest options -> scrub_nondigest = No Digest options -> digestable = No Archiving Options -> archive = No and nothing will be stored in the archive. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
On 11/9/20 9:22 AM, Tom Corcoran wrote: > > I am unsure how setting Digest options -> digestible to No would help? > There are no digests sent anyway, my wife has no reason to go into the > options, etc. It helps because if the list is digestable, the plain text digest is created and non-plain text attachments are scrubbed and stored in the archive even if there are no digest recipients. The way to avoid this scrubbing and storing aside of attachments from the digest is to set Digest options -> digestible to No. If the list is not digestable, digests won't be created. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
Frankly, using ANY mailing list to do this simple task is overkill. You can have gmail filter and forward these emails instead. They go to *your* gmail account, the filter matches it and forwards it to your wife's email account. You can set up a single filter based on a "TO" address. This is the address that you give to the schools, etc. This email address could be boardtc+w...@gmail.com as anything after + in a gmail account is automatically sent to the username before the +. Set the filter to automatically forward anything to that address and you're good to go. On Mon, Nov 9, 2020 at 10:25 AM Tom Corcoran wrote: > Thanks for telling me about mailmanhost.com brian, My mailing lists are > used for my wife and me so we can get emails from the school and kids > activities with a single parents@ address, very low volume. Similar for > utility bills@ address. So such a solution is overkill. > > I see my original picture showing my settings was excluded, here it is: > https://snipboard.io/hxpWac.jpg > > Mark, the kids clubs and utility billing companies mostly send HTML emails > and.or pdf newsletters. > > I am unsure how setting Digest options -> digestible to No would help? > There are no digests sent anyway, my wife has no reason to go into the > options, etc. > > It's surprising to me that mailman has not considered this simple use-case > and as a result, it's over-engineered for this use case. Most people think > it should not accumulate emails with all these options set and the solution > is to ask one's isp to clear out space every so often. For there to be no > option that 100% stops accumulation at this stage of the products life is a > little bizarre and silly imho. > > Would mailman consider adding a bypass option so it simply forwards the > emails to the 2 email addresses on the mailing list? > > Maybe there is a CPanel option to do this other than mailing lists, I have > not found it. Forwarders do not alow 1 address to be forwarded to 2 as far > as I can see. > > As always, thanks for yer paitence. > > Tom. > -- > Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ > Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 > Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 > Searchable Archives: > https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ > https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ > -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
Thanks for telling me about mailmanhost.com brian, My mailing lists are used for my wife and me so we can get emails from the school and kids activities with a single parents@ address, very low volume. Similar for utility bills@ address. So such a solution is overkill. I see my original picture showing my settings was excluded, here it is: https://snipboard.io/hxpWac.jpg Mark, the kids clubs and utility billing companies mostly send HTML emails and.or pdf newsletters. I am unsure how setting Digest options -> digestible to No would help? There are no digests sent anyway, my wife has no reason to go into the options, etc. It's surprising to me that mailman has not considered this simple use-case and as a result, it's over-engineered for this use case. Most people think it should not accumulate emails with all these options set and the solution is to ask one's isp to clear out space every so often. For there to be no option that 100% stops accumulation at this stage of the products life is a little bizarre and silly imho. Would mailman consider adding a bypass option so it simply forwards the emails to the 2 email addresses on the mailing list? Maybe there is a CPanel option to do this other than mailing lists, I have not found it. Forwarders do not alow 1 address to be forwarded to 2 as far as I can see. As always, thanks for yer paitence. Tom. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
Cheers, Tom. On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 at 19:19, Mark Sapiro wrote: > On 11/6/20 5:09 AM, Tom Corcoran wrote: > > > > Currently, the lists are setup as follows: > > [image: image.png] > > Non-digest options -> scrub_nondigestis set to No. > > > You need to set Archiving Options -> archive to No. > Thanks, all are set to no. This shows it set: https://snipboard.io/ahFKH1.jpg -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
On 11/6/20 12:07 PM, Brian Carpenter wrote: > > I am a cPanel host that offers Mailman 2 hosting and I have seen disk > storage accumulate, even for those lists that have archiving turned off. > The storage usage is most likely coming from the attachment directory. > You can ask your ISP to periodically clean it out for you. If, as stated, scrub_nondigest is No, the only attachments that should be stored are those scrubbed from plain format digests. Unfortunately, I think there's no way to avoid this other than training the users to send plain text only (an impossible task on most lists), because I think the plain text digest is created even if it has no recipients. You can set Digest options -> digestable to No and force everyone to subscribe to messages, but that may not be acceptable. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
On 11/6/20 8:09 AM, Tom Corcoran wrote: Hi all, I have 3 mailing lists sent up for myself and my wife, so we both get emails for 1 address. I have limited room on my server space and I want all emails to pass through and none to be archived. [image: image.png] I have got help on this list before for this issue, https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/msg72230.html _but_ the lists are still archiving, see picture above, This might not sound like much but I only have about 30MB to play with my allotment so it's *very *tight. I can ask my isp to delete and have done ion the past but I want to set it up so it's 100% pass through. Currently, the lists are setup as follows: [image: image.png] Non-digest options -> scrub_nondigestis set to No. I have tried the cpanel forum before with no help given. How are things getting stored? Any help much appreciated. Tom. -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/ Hi Tom, I am a cPanel host that offers Mailman 2 hosting and I have seen disk storage accumulate, even for those lists that have archiving turned off. The storage usage is most likely coming from the attachment directory. You can ask your ISP to periodically clean it out for you. For what its worth, we include unlimited storage for our Mailman 3 clients and several gigabytes of storage for our Mailman 2 clients. You can go to https://mailmanhost.com for more information or you can contact me off list. -- Brian Carpenter Harmonylists.com Emwd.com -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
[Mailman-Users] Re: cPanel mailing list accumulating space
On 11/6/20 5:09 AM, Tom Corcoran wrote: > > Currently, the lists are setup as follows: > [image: image.png] > Non-digest options -> scrub_nondigestis set to No. You need to set Archiving Options -> archive to No. -- Mark Sapiro The highway is for gamblers, San Francisco Bay Area, Californiabetter use your sense - B. Dylan -- Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/
