Re: [MlMt] Eudora's mail concatenation in MailMate
On 13 Jan 2017, at 6:16, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: On 12 Jan 2017, at 17:50, Mike Petonic wrote: Perhaps we could use Github's Wiki feature of the https://github.com/mailmate/ site. It doesn't appear that it's enabled, or rather, it is enabled but it just redirects us to the markdown manual (https://github.com/mailmate/mailmate_manual) again. I don't have any experience with Github's Wiki, but I like that I maintain some control while being able to allow anyone to edit. I'll look into this. That's encouraging. We've got some very smart people using MailMate (it's almost a self-qualifying feature :-) and loads of them want to help. The hopeful outcome is: * we free up your time to focus what you're good at * cultivate collaboration across aforementioned smart user-base * provide a reference repository to all of us ADHD users who forgot where that obscure feature is (this is me) For a non-profit project that I'm helping with, I set up a DokuWiki for the first time. I don't know GitHub's wiki, but I suspect that it's not going to be rocket-science for you, nor for MM users. And, I think, given that you own the repo, you'll maintain full control unless you eventually come to trust the folks who volunteer (ahem, Annamarie Pluhar, your volunteering has not gone unnoticed :-). This will free up even more of your time and again, provide for a lot of collaboration.___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Markdown / Numbered Lists / Newline inserted after pressing space
On 13 Jan 2017, at 15:59, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: > Thanks for the confirmation. Hopefully I can reproduce the horizontal issue > again at some point such that I can get a chance to fix it. If it helps, it looks like I can reproduce it. Maybe I can use a debug version or get you some other information if that helps. -- Robert M. Münch, CEO M: +41 79 65 11 49 6 Saphirion AG smarter | better | faster http://www.saphirion.com http://www.nlpp.ch signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Also awesome: counters
On 11 Jan 2017, at 23:17, Zvi Biener wrote:
{
counts = (
{ key = "outgoing"; title = "Outgoing"; filter = "#relay
exists"; },
);
}
Thanks for sharing this. I've planned to do something similar and this
might be the nudge needed :) I've already added that some types of
counters can be limited to certain types of mailboxes (or even a
specific mailbox). I'm going to use this to limit a counter like the
above to drafts-related mailboxes.
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Benny
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Re: [MlMt] Markdown / Numbered Lists / Newline inserted after pressing space
On 13 Jan 2017, at 10:19, Robert M. Münch wrote: On 13 Jan 2017, at 9:17, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote: I'm pretty sure that it only happens when the preview is on the right side of the composer window. At least I have been able to reproduce it that way at some point, but I cannot trigger it now. I'm guessing there must be some other condition needed for this behavior. Robert, can you confirm that you have the preview on the right? Hi Benny, yes, I have/had the preview on the right side. Showing it at the bottom solves the problem. Thanks for the confirmation. Hopefully I can reproduce the horizontal issue again at some point such that I can get a chance to fix it. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Eudora's mail concatenation in MailMate
On 12 Jan 2017, at 17:50, Mike Petonic wrote: Perhaps we could use Github's Wiki feature of the https://github.com/mailmate/ site. It doesn't appear that it's enabled, or rather, it is enabled but it just redirects us to the markdown manual (https://github.com/mailmate/mailmate_manual) again. I don't have any experience with Github's Wiki, but I like that I maintain some control while being able to allow anyone to edit. I'll look into this. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Eudora's mail concatenation in MailMate
On 12 Jan 2017, at 3:25, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: On 11 Jan 2017, at 11:28, Ted Byfield wrote: A Mailmate tips/tricks resource would very useful to fill the gap between the manual (which should be very minimal) and this ~support list (which is great but a noisy way to build practical knowledge). This isn't intended as a criticism of MM at all — on the contrary, I'm just thinking about a resource that could help it to grow. Why can’t the manual have this as part of it? (BTW, I’ve got a months-old PR on the manual: https://github.com/mailmate/mailmate_manual .) Oops :-) I think my initial thought was that it was a bit too minor to be in the introduction. I've accepted it now and then I might move it later on :) Sorry about the delay. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Eudora's mail concatenation in MailMate
On 11 Jan 2017, at 17:42, Peter Stevens wrote: Some of these issues might better be handled through better usability. Why not just have some buttons to insert markdown templates? So documentation is isn’t necessary the answer (even if it can be a quick fix for deeper problems). Just for the record, I agree with this. I recently added that some Markdown is handled via the standard keys, e.g., TextEdit: ⌘B, ⌘I, ⌘K. The last one is for creating links. At its best: Put a URL on the pasteboard, select a word, and hit ⌘K. Yeah, also not documented in the manual. (Toolbar buttons are a bit harder, because it'll involve graphics I don't have.) -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Eudora's mail concatenation in MailMate
On 11 Jan 2017, at 1:41, Verdon Vaillancourt wrote: That’s funny… mine is configured the other way around… has been so long I don’t know if I did that, or if it used to be default. Searching is the default behavior. -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Eudora's mail concatenation in MailMate
So glad I saw this thread. (Sometimes I read and sometimes I simply delete) One of my hats is "instructional designer." I'm well aware of the time it might take to put together a good tips and tricks manual. I'd love to see one. As a non-coder a wiki seems more approachable to me than github - but maybe I'm just not conversant enough with github. I'd be happy to offer my editing/writing to what gets put there. My two cents. Annamarie Pluhar 802-451-1941 802-579-5975 (iPhone - not good when I'm at my desk.) On 12 Jan 2017, at 14:26, John D. Muccigrosso wrote: On 12 Jan 2017, at 13:46, Mike Petonic wrote: No objection from me. I just think that a markdown manual collaborated with on GitHub is less collaborative (i.e., someone has to do the integrations and approve them) as compared to a Wiki, where they just have to be monitored. I doubt that Benny has that much available time to do the integrations, and I think we'd all rather that Benny focus on continuing to make MM the best damned MUA for macOS. :-) On the other hand, if we have volunteers to do the editing from submissions, then my concern would go away, and a manual format is oftentimes that best format for certain people because of the linearity (it's not my desired format, however). I’m indifferent to the method, but since github already points the wiki to the manual, something would have to change. John ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Markdown / Numbered Lists / Newline inserted after pressing space
On 11 Jan 2017, at 16:24, Sherif Soliman wrote: On 11 Jan 2017, at 4:08, Robert M. Münch wrote: Hi, when I create a numbered list with "1. " MM opens up the preview, shows the numbered list entry but the cursor is positioned into a newline under the number, so I just can't continue writing and have to get rid of the newline. Is this a known problem? This happens to me too - but only sometimes and I couldn't reproduce it for the purposes of this reply. I start the list and the composer recognizes the text as Markdown, and while it's opening a Preview pane, the cursor moves to the line below the `- `. Unfortunately I don't have a guess as to what conditions cause that to happen. I'm pretty sure that it only happens when the preview is on the right side of the composer window. At least I have been able to reproduce it that way at some point, but I cannot trigger it now. I'm guessing there must be some other condition needed for this behavior. Robert, can you confirm that you have the preview on the right? -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
Re: [MlMt] Disable copying messages to "Sent:"
On 11 Jan 2017, at 11:35, Peter Stevens wrote: My provider automatically copies outgoing mail to my Sent box, so I don’t need MailMate to do it for me. How do I deactivate that? It's not currently optional. Technically, MailMate would need to delete the message it had just sent. I've been hesitant with respect to implementing that because deleting messages automatically is inherently dangerous. Bugs or unexpected server behavior could have serious consequences. I also don't like the way, e.g., Gmail can edit a message before/after sending it and adding it to the Sent Mail mailbox. Also, in order for such a feature to really be useful then it *shouldn't* delete the message, but instead move it to the same mailbox as the server does. Then it should detect the new message on the server and map it to the local copy without fetching the message. Otherwise, no bandwidth is saved (which is the whole point of the non-standard SMTP behavior). It's tricky to make this work well. And at least for Gmail the local sent message and the server sent message would likely not be 100% identical -- which my inner purist dislikes. That was a bit of a rant :) It might be possible to do something with rules to automatically delete sent messages, but it's tricky. At the very least, the Drafts mailbox should be kept offline to avoid MailMate uploading and later deleting the message. The latter could possibly trigger Gmail to also delete the Gmail-saved sent message (because of the no-duplicates policy). Even worse, due to race conditions this might not always happen and therefore could be very hard to debug. Thanks for trying out MailMate! -- Benny ___ mailmate mailing list mailmate@lists.freron.com https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
