Re: [mailop] New to mass mailings

2023-05-09 Thread Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop
Dnia 8.05.2023 o godz. 23:45:54 Dan Mahoney via mailop pisze: > > That’s not “leads”, that’s spam, plain and simple. Maybe — maybe when > your list of leads comes from an entire company you’ve purchased, this > might make sense, but if it’s a third party purchase, there’s literally no >

Re: [mailop] New to mass mailings

2023-05-08 Thread Dan Mahoney via mailop
> On May 8, 2023, at 8:45 PM, H via mailop wrote: > > On 05/08/2023 05:27 AM, Laura Atkins via mailop wrote: >> >> >>> On 8 May 2023, at 08:57, Dan Malm via mailop >>> wrote: >>> >>> On 5/6/23 17:28, H via mailop wrote: I am new to doing mass mailings to

Re: [mailop] New to mass mailings

2023-05-08 Thread Jarland Donnell via mailop
On the chance that John's message here is read as "well that's just one opinion" let me reiterate: If I find someone emailing my customers from a list of scraped or purchased "leads" I will immediately and permanently block them from my infrastructure, and refund every customer that thinks

Re: [mailop] New to mass mailings

2023-05-08 Thread Jay Hennigan via mailop
On 5/8/23 17:45, H via mailop wrote: Building lists of leads ourselves but also purchased leads. This is never a good idea. Do not send mass mailings (or any mailings) to purchased addresses. Despite promises from the list sellers, the addresses in the list do not have an existing business

Re: [mailop] New to mass mailings

2023-05-08 Thread John Levine via mailop
It appears that H via mailop said: >> How are you acquiring your leads, are you purchasing them from somewhere? >Building lists of leads ourselves but also purchased leads. Just the former >would be way too slow of course. By the way, we are communicating >with corporate customers, not with

Re: [mailop] New to mass mailings

2023-05-08 Thread H via mailop
On 05/08/2023 03:57 AM, Dan Malm via mailop wrote: > On 5/6/23 17:28, H via mailop wrote: >> I am new to doing mass mailings to customers and leads - not spam - and am >> looking for some introduction how to interpret different types of rejection >> messages so we can improve our success rate

Re: [mailop] New to mass mailings

2023-05-08 Thread Dan Malm via mailop
On 5/6/23 17:28, H via mailop wrote: I am new to doing mass mailings to customers and leads - not spam - and am looking for some introduction how to interpret different types of rejection messages so we can improve our success rate etc. Many mailbox providers do at least some things "their

Re: [mailop] New to mass mailings

2023-05-07 Thread H via mailop
On 05/07/2023 12:11 PM, Al Iverson via mailop wrote: > Here's my Microsoft Deliverability Guide, recently updated: > https://www.spamresource.com/2023/04/isp-deliverability-guide-microsoft-olc.html > > The company I work for, we provide deliverability monitoring software > and consulting services.

Re: [mailop] New to mass mailings

2023-05-07 Thread H via mailop
On 05/06/2023 11:50 PM, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: >> Understood. We plan to change the setup over the summer but until then we >> have to work with what we have. When we change we will probably set up our >> own postfix server for mail handling. > As far as I can tell it's about a two

Re: [mailop] New to mass mailings

2023-05-07 Thread Al Iverson via mailop
Here's my Microsoft Deliverability Guide, recently updated: https://www.spamresource.com/2023/04/isp-deliverability-guide-microsoft-olc.html The company I work for, we provide deliverability monitoring software and consulting services. Feel free to reach out if either interest you. Work email: al

Re: [mailop] New to mass mailings

2023-05-06 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
> Understood. We plan to change the setup over the summer but until then we > have to work with what we have. When we change we will probably set up our > own postfix server for mail handling. As far as I can tell it's about a two hour job to do the latter. > I should have added that our

Re: [mailop] New to mass mailings

2023-05-06 Thread H via mailop
On 05/06/2023 07:49 PM, H wrote: > On 05/06/2023 03:24 PM, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: >>> We are mailing from our own CRM system but using Ionos (1and1.com) as our >>> mail service. >> You're setting yourselves up to fail by mailing out of a server shared >> by thousands of other

Re: [mailop] New to mass mailings

2023-05-06 Thread H via mailop
On 05/06/2023 03:24 PM, Atro Tossavainen via mailop wrote: >> We are mailing from our own CRM system but using Ionos (1and1.com) as our >> mail service. > You're setting yourselves up to fail by mailing out of a server shared > by thousands of other customers. The error messages you quote testify

Re: [mailop] New to mass mailings

2023-05-06 Thread H via mailop
On 05/06/2023 02:17 PM, Dan Lester wrote: > You might want to explore the extent to which ionas might be sending these > out with IPs that are spam blacklisted. I just fought off a similar issue > with Sender, because they did assign me such an IP. I've also always > suspected that IPs are

Re: [mailop] New to mass mailings

2023-05-06 Thread Atro Tossavainen via mailop
> We are mailing from our own CRM system but using Ionos (1and1.com) as our > mail service. You're setting yourselves up to fail by mailing out of a server shared by thousands of other customers. The error messages you quote testify to that. Don't do it. -- Atro Tossavainen, Chairman of the

[mailop] New to mass mailings

2023-05-06 Thread H via mailop
I am new to doing mass mailings to customers and leads - not spam - and am looking for some introduction how to interpret different types of rejection messages so we can improve our success rate etc. We are mailing from our own CRM system but using Ionos (1and1.com) as our mail service. I have