tter via mailop"
To: mailop@mailop.org
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 8:40:23 AM
Subject: Re: [mailop] Microsoft Block list (S3150)
> For weeks I haven't been able to submit the form to remove RBLs --
each time it says (regardless of browser):
> "We're sorry, but something went wro
JMRP is not dead.I recently received an email for an IP block that 2 years ago we announced under our ASN for a client and it was never submitted to JRMP or SNDS... So at least I know it's alive. Also I have seen many datacenters complaining about Microsoft blocking their whole ASN with hundreds
On Wed, 1 Jul 2020, Warren Volz via mailop wrote:
On 06/30/2020 8:10 am, Adam Moffett via mailop wrote:
JMRP may not be dead, but I have haven't received anything from it in at
least 8 months. That's just as far
back as my "abuse" inbox goes. I don't actually know when we last
On 06/30/2020 8:10 am, Adam Moffett via mailop wrote:
JMRP may not be dead, but I have haven't received anything from it in at least 8 months. That's
just as far back as my "abuse" inbox goes. I don't actually know when we last received
something from JMRP. I believe you that it still works
-- Original Message --
From: "Jonathan Leroy - Inikup via mailop"
To: "mailop"
Sent: 6/30/2020 8:57:18 PM
Subject: Re: [mailop] Microsoft Block list (S3150)
Le mar. 30 juin 2020 à 16:11, Adam Moffett via mailop
a écrit :
JMRP may not be dead, but I have haven
Le mar. 30 juin 2020 à 16:11, Adam Moffett via mailop
a écrit :
> JMRP may not be dead, but I have haven't received anything from it in at
> least 8 months.
Sometimes reauthorizations are requested for some IP ranges in SNDS,
and Microsoft sends a validation email to the address shown in the
ke to remain patient, but I'm starting to feel that this response
is disproportionate to the original issue.
-Adam
-- Original Message --
From: "Al Iverson via mailop"
To: "mailop"
Sent: 6/29/2020 12:13:30 PM
Subject: Re: [mailop] Microsoft Block list (S3150)
SND
Am 29.06.20 um 16:42 schrieb Michael Rathbun via mailop:
> On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 15:46:05 +0200, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
> wrote:
>
>> Am 29.06.2020 13:16, schrieb Laura Atkins via mailop:
>>> On the advice of their lawyers Microsoft doesnt share that
>>> information with senders.
>>>
>>>
Might I also suggest that Microsoft needs a form or chat on their website
where other email server administrators can submit to
Microsoft/Hotmail/Outlook mail server administrators.
I keep getting on chat explaining that Microsoft/Hotmail/Outlook is
blocking one of our mail server IPs, and I keep
more email security & compliance? Ask me about Mimecast!
From: "Scott Mutter via mailop"
To: mailop@mailop.org
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2020 8:40:23 AM
Subject: Re: [mailop] Microsoft Block list (S3150)
> For weeks I haven't been able to submit the form to remove RBLs -- each
On 29/06/2020 13:08, Scott Mutter via mailop wrote:
> On the advice of their lawyers Microsoft doesn’t share that
information with senders.
And I understand the reasons for that. But... can't you see how this
turns into a "he said / she said" argument?
Without giving any
On Mon, 29 Jun 2020 15:46:05 +0200, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop
wrote:
>Am 29.06.2020 13:16, schrieb Laura Atkins via mailop:
>> On the advice of their lawyers Microsoft doesnt share that
>> information with senders.
>>
>> laura
>>
>
>Sounds a bit like Kafka's "Der Prozess". Don't tell the
Am 29.06.2020 13:16, schrieb Laura Atkins via mailop:
On the advice of their lawyers Microsoft doesn’t share that
information with senders.
laura
Sounds a bit like Kafka's "Der Prozess". Don't tell the defendant what
he's being accused of...
Cheers,
Hans-Martin
> For weeks I haven't been able to submit the form to remove RBLs -- each
time it says (regardless of browser):
> "We're sorry, but something went wrong on our end. Please try again later"
> Anyone else experienced that?
Same here. See my post to this list from June 10th - Subject: "Hotmail -
On 27/06/2020 5:54 am, Tim Bray via mailop wrote:
> On 24/06/2020 23:03, Al Iverson via mailop wrote:
>> Yep, fill out this
>> form:http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866
For weeks I haven't been able to submit the form to remove RBLs -- each time it
says (regardless of browser):
"We're
> On the advice of their lawyers Microsoft doesn’t share that information
with senders.
And I understand the reasons for that. But... can't you see how this turns
into a "he said / she said" argument?
Microsoft: "Your IP sent us spam, so we're blocking you."
Mail Server Admin: "I don't see any
On the advice of their lawyers Microsoft doesn’t share that information with
senders.
laura
> On 29 Jun 2020, at 06:18, Esteban Fonseca via mailop
> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Has anyone ever had success getting feedback from Microsoft ? Stuff like what
> caused the block, and when,
Hello all,
Has anyone ever had success getting feedback from Microsoft ? Stuff like
what caused the block, and when, things that may help you nail down the
issue ? We've got new IPs assigned by our ISP and they were blocked since
they were assigned to us, meaning that it was not us (my company)
Michael Orlitzky wrote:
* Why won't Exchange follow the SMTP standards?
* Why can't Outlook implement STARTTLS correctly?
* Can Outlook finally support CalDAV and CardDAV?
* How come all my mail comes through as winmail.dat?
Don't forget message body modifications that break DKIM and cause
On 24/06/2020 23:03, Al Iverson via mailop wrote:
Yep, fill out this form:http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866
Wait a few days for a reply.
First reply might just be a "we're routing your ticket" response.
Second reply might be useful, or it might be completely bonkers.
You might have
If a part of the ISP's network is on a spam list, and the mailop mail
server is on the same IP block, there are two issues here, 1) the issue of
the difficulties in reaching out the filter (in this case Microsoft) and
other filters still unknown, and the lengthy process, if at all responsive,
of
On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 10:46:57 -0500, Scott Mutter via mailop
wrote:
>But the real sucky part is - we're the ones that get blamed by our
>customers when Microsoft imposes such a strict block. From our customers
>point of view - Microsoft is too large of a company to do any wrong, it
>can't be
.
On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 9:34 AM Adam Moffett via mailop
wrote:
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Michael Rathbun via mailop"
> To: mailop@mailop.org
> Sent: 6/24/2020 10:28:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [mailop] Microsoft Block list (S3150)
>
> >On 24
-- Original Message --
From: "Michael Rathbun via mailop"
To: mailop@mailop.org
Sent: 6/24/2020 10:28:17 PM
Subject: Re: [mailop] Microsoft Block list (S3150)
On 24 Jun 2020 21:50:13 -0400, John Levine via mailop
wrote:
To point out the obvious, you're not their cus
On 2020-06-25 01:33, Scott Mutter via mailop wrote:
>
> Just once, I'd love to get a response from Microsoft that explains why
> they're the only ones blocking an IP address.
When your customers can't send email to Microsoft or Gmail, they cancel
their account with you and move their email to
That's true - I'm not a customer. But who is a customer? What is defined
as a customer? Is a hotmail.com/live.com/outlook.com email user a
"customer"? And if so... how do they contact a real live human being at
Microsoft to voice their concerns about Microsoft's unilateral IP blocking
of other
On 24 Jun 2020 21:50:13 -0400, John Levine via mailop
wrote:
>To point out the obvious, you're not their customer. Why should they
>care unless an actual customer complains?
And the actual customers are the advertisers, not the persons using "free"
email services, and certainly not any entity
In article
you write:
>
>You would think a company like Microsoft would have a better solution to
>all of this.
To point out the obvious, you're not their customer. Why should they
care unless an actual customer complains?
R's,
John
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You would think a company like Microsoft would have a better solution to
all of this.
Once you get blocked by Microsoft it's a 6 week race (because they'll only
reply about once a week) to plow through all of the crud replies they send
you, to actually getting something accomplished. Except,
Yep, fill out this form: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=614866
Wait a few days for a reply.
First reply might just be a "we're routing your ticket" response.
Second reply might be useful, or it might be completely bonkers.
You might have to calmly state your case repeatedly.
They might say
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