Re: [mailop] [ADDENDUM] Update from .. personal pet peeve

On 2022-06-15 14:08, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: On 2022-06-15 12:50, Michael Peddemors via mailop wrote: Haven't been keeping up on these, figured it is time to put one out, even though it isn't the end of the week... (see attach) This one really bugs me Gmail, why should we have

Re: [mailop] Leaseweb

On 2022-06-07 11:11, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote: it's probably no surprise to anybody, but Leaseweb is a confirmed spammer haven. Sadly, this is where my mail server is hosted. Due to their acquisitions rather than by my choice, but it hasn't been enough of a problem to make any

Re: [mailop] State Of The Sendgrid

On 2022-03-02 09:56, Brie via mailop wrote: So, are we all still under the conclusion that it's a waste of time to hope that something might be done about abuse from their network? If nothing was fixed last year, why would anything be fixed this year? Maybe next year!

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: What am I supposed to do with abuse complaints on legit mail?

On 2022-01-11 03:29, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: Dnia 10.01.2022 o godz. 19:30:02 Dave Warren via mailop pisze: How would it know the difference if it was Thunderbird, or the user? You can guess by timing. If the message is moved to spam folder immediately after being fetched by client

Re: [mailop] What am I supposed to do with abuse complaints on legit mail?

On 2022-01-11 09:11, Lukas Tribus via mailop wrote: in my opinion Office 365 does it right (in the browser). When marking an email as Junk, it will ask the user whether the message should*ALSO* be reported. This hints at the possibility that this will land at a human person (can be true for

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: What am I supposed to do with abuse complaints on legit mail?

On 2022-01-11 03:29, Jaroslaw Rafa via mailop wrote: Dnia 10.01.2022 o godz. 19:30:02 Dave Warren via mailop pisze: How would it know the difference if it was Thunderbird, or the user? You can guess by timing. If the message is moved to spam folder immediately after being fetched by client

Re: [mailop] What am I supposed to do with abuse complaints on legit mail?

On 2022-01-10 15:32, Mark Fletcher via mailop wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 11:24 AM Douglas Vought via mailop mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote: Does anyone have any tips on handling abuse complaints on legit email? When we (Groups.io) receives an FBL report, we automatically

Re: [mailop] What a drag it is sending DMARC reports

On 2021-12-26 18:44, Ángel via mailop wrote: On 2021-12-23 at 21:02 -0700, Dave Warren via mailop wrote: Even just verifying a phone number adds a real world cost to switching identities which makes blocking far more effective. There is certainly a cost for casual users wishing to switch

Re: [mailop] What a drag it is sending DMARC reports

On 2021-12-26 19:23, Michael Rathbun via mailop wrote: On Mon, 27 Dec 2021 02:44:35 +0100, Ángel via mailop wrote: I wonder however if that's still the case for "professional" spammers, as I expect they would be able to buy phone numbers more easily and cheap than common users. What is this

Re: [mailop] What a drag it is sending DMARC reports

On 2021-12-18 08:39, yuv via mailop wrote: On Sat, 2021-12-18 at 15:13 +0100, Alexey Shpakovsky via mailop wrote: On Sat, December 18, 2021 13:50, yuv via mailop wrote: What makes the difference between [the smoothly running messaging systems] and internet email? I believe answer is

Re: [mailop] Experience with SMTP2GO?

On 2021-12-19 08:01, Daniele Nicolodi via mailop wrote: Hello, does anyone have experience in using SMTP2GO Free tier service for sending tiny volume of emails from personal domains? Being grumpy about the failure of SMTP as a federated protocol does not help have email delivered, thus I am

Re: [mailop] HIPAA compliant email (was Re: So uh... Zoom/Sendgrid... How's that webinar spam investigation coming?)

On 2021-08-05 09:47, John Levine via mailop wrote: It appears that Luis E. Muñoz via mailop said: Out of curiosity, and recognizing that this would be a separate thread, what makes email non-compliant, considering that fax seems to be compliant? Just in case, this is a serious question of

Re: [mailop] m-365 still works like a spammer !

On Sat, Jul 24, 2021, at 09:14, Xavier Beaudouin via mailop wrote: > Hello, > > >> But it seems they never trys the best preference first. > >> > > > > Are you greylisting or running pregreet tests on your MXes? > > > > Here's what I think is happening. MS first tries the priority 10 MX,

Re: [mailop] Huh?

On 2021-04-30 08:50, Chris Kolbenschlag via mailop wrote: I got an email from a small receiver that they are blocking one of our /24s because of spam.  I looked up the email address they referenced and found the contact signed up on their website 2 years ago, has a 41% open rate, a 17% click

Re: [mailop] Greylisting never passing on retry

On 2021-04-21 13:34, John Levine via mailop wrote: It appears that Peter Nicolai Mathias Hansteen via mailop said: Greylisting implementations tend to expect retries to come from the same IP address as the original one. Some of us are still quite cross that the writers-of-RFCs did not care

Re: [mailop] Greylisting never passing on retry

On 2021-04-20 03:24, Hans-Martin Mosner via mailop wrote: Another possibility, which would for example apply to the mail systems for which I'm responsible, is that temp rejection is used to defer mail from questionable sources until a manual check shows that they're likely genuine (or in some

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Some Days I think that Gmail isn't even trying to stop outbound spam..

On 2021-02-09 14:47, Chris via mailop wrote: On 2021-02-08 21:09, Dave Warren via mailop wrote: \ You could always turn on + addressing on M365... https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/recipients-in-exchange-online/plus-addressing-in-exchange-online Admittedly it is fairly new, and opt

Re: [mailop] How important is an ipv6 ptr record?

On 2021-02-10 12:08, Andrew C Aitchison via mailop wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 2021, Dave Crocker via mailop wrote: The much larger address space makes it too easy for a bad actor to jump around and, therefore, not develop a bad reputation associated with the address.  So non-history features are

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Some Days I think that Gmail isn't even trying to stop outbound spam..

On 2021-02-08 16:14, Bill Cole via mailop wrote: On 8 Feb 2021, at 17:03, Richard Bewley via mailop wrote: The critical feature in '+' tagging (and equivalents using other characters or patterns) is the ability to create aliases on-the-fly in a namespace that the user controls such that the

Re: [mailop] [E] Re: Some Days I think that Gmail isn't even trying to stop outbound spam..

On 2021-02-08 15:03, Richard Bewley via mailop wrote: Only this weekend I was trying to help an old colleague with a migration from Gsuite to M365. The #1 complaint... was some of his minions were seemingly crippled by the lack of this function.. and I was thinking err aliases? Aliases?

Re: [mailop] open RBL and RHSBL lists these days?

On Mon, Dec 14, 2020, at 11:32, Mark E. Jeftovic via mailop wrote: > Hey all, we're looking to deploy some user-configurable options in our mail > filtering such as being able to select which RBLs and RHSBLs they want to > apply to their inbound messages. > We already subscribe to some on a

Re: [mailop] [E] Google bounce after accept

On 2020-10-30 08:25, Marcel Becker via mailop wrote: On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 1:11 AM Atro Tossavainen via mailop mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote: Why does Google bounce after accepting a message? At Google's scale, the potential to become the world's biggest spammer simply through

Re: [mailop] This is..Concerning: DatabaseUSA Wins Case Against The Spamhaus Project

On 2020-08-03 17:39, Jerry Cloe via mailop wrote: It could also be argued as case law against other blacklist providers. As I understand US law, defaults do not provide any form of precedent or other form of useful case law. There might well be exceptions, of course.

Re: [mailop] Microsoft Outlook "Modern Authentication"?

A bit late, sorry. On Tue, Jun 2, 2020, at 04:55, Ken O'Driscoll via mailop wrote: > On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 13:35 -0600, Daniele Nicolodi via mailop wrote: >> Does anyone know if there is any alternative to Outlook to access >> >> Exchange Online mailboxes that require modern authentication? >

Re: [mailop] Gmail Vacation responder replying to spam?

Looks good from what I can see from here, thanks! On 2019-05-07 12:31, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: This should be fixed now. Brandon *From: *Dave Warren mailto:d...@thedave.ca>> *Date: *Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 4:40 PM *To: * mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> __ Thanks, s

Re: [mailop] The utility of spam folders

On 2019-04-22 08:11, Michael Rathbun wrote: Neither you nor your customer are customers of the freemail provider. Agreed. The provider has close to zero economic incentive to pay attention to your needs and desires. I strongly disagree here, the freemail providers have a product (your

Re: [mailop] Gmail Vacation responder replying to spam?

Thanks, sent off-list! On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, at 17:09, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > If you send me the header of a message we responded to, I can file a bug. > > Brandon > > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 3:53 PM Dave Warren wrote: >> I've had a couple users complaining ab

[mailop] Gmail Vacation responder replying to spam?

I've had a couple users complaining about receiving a bunch of unexpected bounce messages recently, since we filter bounce messages pretty carefully I dug into it and the messages are being pulled from Gmail accounts via our POP retrieval system which bypasses bounce filtering. We don't get the

Re: [mailop] Office365 Eating E-mail

On Sun, Mar 17, 2019, at 19:40, Mike Hammett wrote: > Oh, I love focused. It works exactly as intended. I'll dig around in the > Office 365 I admin and then relay to the one with the problem where to look. > You might, but to less technical users it is just another spam folder that they don't

Re: [mailop] Quick question on SPF...

On 2019-01-26 16:24, Paul Ebersman wrote: ebersman> And if the server doesn't give the same complete answer every ebersman> time (regardless of order), it's technically violating the DNS ebersman> RFCs. dw> I'm not sure that this is really true from a client's standpoint. dw> Just because you

Re: [mailop] Quick question on SPF...

On 2019-01-24 09:29, Paul Ebersman wrote: And if the server doesn't give the same complete answer every time (regardless of order), it's technically violating the DNS RFCs. I'm not sure that this is really true from a client's standpoint. Just because you get a different answer from my

Re: [mailop] Expires SSL cert for mailop

On Fri, Oct 26, 2018, at 19:29, Noel Butler wrote: > Problem with letsencrypt is their preferred and insisted " certbot " > - does not run (easily at least) on all flavours..> I gave up with it on > slackware which is what my servers run, tried > using Crypt::LE and voila instant success, it was

Re: [mailop] GMail Delisting

On 2018-09-11 11:00, Mike Hammett wrote: Most platforms have a password per account. Not a password per account-service combination. Yes, and? This isn't an overnight switch or even possible on all platforms, but it is a viable way to move forward. Most of the major consumer platforms

Re: [mailop] GMail Delisting

On 2018-09-07 15:09, Jay Hennigan wrote: On 9/7/18 12:32 PM, Michael Peddemors wrote: * Do you enforce 'tough' passwords? Most formula-based "tough" passwords are only "tough" for the legitimate user, not an attacker. Consider that with email protocols, this doesn't necessarily apply.

Re: [mailop] Bitcoin password ransom email from user at outlook.com

On 2018-07-13 08:53, Mihai Costea wrote: At the other side of the spectrum there are one off mails that go ignored due to the signal to noise ratio of the long tail. There’s tons of folks with weird complains (from “I think Xbox live is too expensive” to suggestions on what billGates should

Re: [mailop] Bitcoin password ransom email from user at outlook.com

Keep in mind that "no human will likely ever read..." does not mean that the mailbox is ignored. At this scale abuse handling is automated in one fashion or another. I have no knowledge of what specifically Microsoft is doing. On 2018-07-12 14:28, Eric Tykwinski wrote: I really hope your

Re: [mailop] HELO *.*

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, at 13:27, Brielle Bruns wrote: > Been seeing an awful lot of these lately on one of my email servers > (exim based): > > > 2018-06-11 14:15:44 no host name found for IP address 157.25.104.90 > 2018-06-11 14:15:47 rejected HELO from [157.25.104.90]: syntactically > invalid

Re: [mailop] Received header address information

On 2018-04-18 17:49, Al Iverson wrote: In the past I've had to deal with DNSBL listings based on faked received headers-- IMHO, it's not safe to parse IPs beyond connections that you yourself have verified. I've always considered this a feature, not a bug. Spammer forges their way into

Re: [mailop] Microsoft IPs automatically unsubscribing recipients?

On 2018-03-01 16:26, David Carriger wrote: Yes, I'm still seeing this. So, an open question: As an ESP, how am I supposed to tell my users to practice good list hygiene and remove unengaged recipients from their lists when my data is being tainted by Google/Microsoft/etc triggering all of my

Re: [mailop] GSuites looking too closely at first-hop Received: headers?

On 2018-02-27 21:17, Philip Paeps wrote: You're posting as an alias in a domain from a server that's not authorized to send mail for that domain and isn't dkim signing for that domain, and posting to a public group in that domain.  It's kind of a spammy set of circumstances, but really it's

Re: [mailop] VERP in 2018 (Was: RoadRunner Help?)

On 2018-02-17 03:48, Stefano Bagnara wrote: Unfortunately there are still some server accepting everything and sending bounces without headers or malformed bounces. This is not a small group. Every few months I get massive floods of bounces from some spambot that decided forging my domain is

Re: [mailop] [OT] Re: contact at telkomsa.net

On 2018-02-13 03:33, G. Miliotis wrote: Hi, For a moment there I thought that there was a banner ad in your signature. May I suggest you make it animated, it'll be a lot more catchy. That and I wonder what MimeCast pays for a sponsored email footer?

Re: [mailop] Anyone on this list from SpamCop?

On 2018-02-06 16:34, Laura Atkins wrote: Putting a URL in a List-Unsubscribe header is an entirely reasonable thing to do, and lots of ESPs do it. Lots of non-ESPs do it, too. Heck, I do it for virtually all automated messages, even on some internal stuff, basically anything that is

Re: [mailop] Mail Transfer Agent Alternatives

On 2018-02-05 10:27, Marc Goldman via mailop wrote: I received an email telling me I would need to pay RETROACTIVELY for the years I did NOT receive support in order to upgrade. Has anyone ever heard of a policy like that? What is cheaper, paying retroactively or buying a new license? At

Re: [mailop] Heads Up

On 2018-02-02 15:18, Michelle Sullivan wrote: Charles McKean wrote: On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Ken O'Driscoll via mailop wrote: On Sat, 2018-01-20 at 11:14 +1100, Michelle Sullivan wrote: One can only conclude, they either have a leak in their API, or they altered

Re: [mailop] Invalid address ratio?

On 2018-02-02 10:47, Chris wrote: On Fri, 02 Feb 2018 16:52:16 + Ken O'Driscoll via mailop wrote: On Fri, 2018-02-02 at 17:26 +0100, Chris wrote: I'm a bit surprised, that on a small mail server, 77 % of the rejected mails are rejected because of invalid recipient adresses. 22 % because

Re: [mailop] Anyone on this list from SpamCop?

On 2018-02-06 10:12, Anne P. Mitchell Esq. wrote: Also URLs in mail headers, which is perhaps reasonable, except that ...many ESPs now put unsub URLs in the headers. Are the results any more harmful than the same unsub URL in the foot (or otherwise in the visible body of the message)?

Re: [mailop] Heads Up

On 2018-01-21 09:40, Charles McKean wrote: On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Ken O'Driscoll via mailop wrote: On Sat, 2018-01-20 at 11:14 +1100, Michelle Sullivan wrote: One can only conclude, they either have a leak in their API, or they altered the permissions to give out

Re: [mailop] Gmail forwarding blowback

On 2017-11-08 12:20, Warren Volz wrote: All, One of my users has their account setup to forward mail to Gmail. Recently I've started to see lots of rejects that look like the following: (expanded from ): host

Re: [mailop] unique/shared public DKIM keys per domain?

On 2017-10-10 08:20, John R Levine wrote: On Tue, 10 Oct 2017, David Hofstee wrote: Didn't Google mention they wanted the age of the keys to count in the spam score? I'll check but I would be surprised if it made much difference. I rotate my keys every month, which seems to be more often

Re: [mailop] Gmail labeled as Spam based on content

On Tue, Aug 1, 2017, at 13:48, Paul Witting wrote: > Anyone from Gmail here? Hopefully I’m not off topic. > > CEO was complaining about mail not getting to clients (not mail campaigns, > just day to day business). He sent a simple Subject: Test w/ Body Test (+ > signature) to his personal

Re: [mailop] self-signed cert for inbound TLS

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017, at 09:05, Vittorio Bertola wrote: > >> Il 26 luglio 2017 alle 19.10 Brandon Long ha scritto:>> >> Why can't smtp software being expected to maintain a list of trusted CAs? >> Or at least run on an OS that is expected to do so.> There is a standard >>

Re: [mailop] btinternet.com blacklist

Starr wrote: > Then what does "unmanaged" mean in this context? > > -Tim > > On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 1:28 AM, Dave Warren <da...@hireahit.com> wrote:>> __ >> As far as #2, because users of said servers often want to send email.>> >&

Re: [mailop] btinternet.com blacklist

As far as #2, because users of said servers often want to send email. On Mon, Jul 17, 2017, at 12:05, Tim Starr wrote: > An overall admirable response, keep up the good work. Just 2 questions:> > 1) Why not put TLDR at top? > 2) Why allow email to be sent at all from "unmanaged servers"? > >

Re: [mailop] So, about this iOS10 unsubscribe feature...

On Mon, May 22, 2017, at 18:59, frnk...@iname.com wrote: > Just starting last week we started seeing our outbound queues fill up > with undeliverable client messages generated because of this one-click > unsubscribe feature. Since this Apple feature has been in place for > over six months, I’m

Re: [mailop] Do we need a new list for reporting spam? (Was Re: Admin: This is not a place to report Spam. )

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017, at 09:15, Laura Atkins wrote: > >> On Apr 9, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: >> >> On Apr 9, 2017 13:07, "Anne P. Mitchell, Esq." >> wrote: >>> This brings up a good point...back in 'the day' folks would report >>> spam on

Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

On Sun, Mar 26, 2017, at 13:58, John Levine wrote: > In article <20170326220333.3c517c48@quill> you write: > >If I want to be able to give people information for being able to > >contact me via the Internet, so that I can have a reasonable expectation > >of being able to make sure that this will

Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017, at 13:34, Neil Schwartzman wrote: > *PLEASE JOIN THE ICANN GROUP* and help us fight back against people > who are fighting *in favour* of crime. Please also take the time to understand that your needs are not my needs. I would be in favour of a WHOIS system that doesn't

Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED

On Sun, Mar 26, 2017, at 13:03, Norbert Bollow wrote: > On 26 Mar 2017 00:20:17 - > "John Levine" wrote: > > > Of course. But the fraction of domains registered by natural people > > is quite low. And, of course, the claim that you need your own second > > level domain to

Re: [mailop] conventional wisdom, was Google rejects a TLS connection

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017, at 17:38, John Levine wrote: > In article > <1489684655.3176120.913642288.0d732...@webmail.messagingengine.com> you > write: > >You can make a rule against sending credit cards by email, but if > >customer service reps know it works they might still encourage a > >customer to

Re: [mailop] Google rejects a TLS connection saying it needs TLS...

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017, at 07:37, Paul Smith wrote: > On 16/03/2017 14:18, Kevin Huxham wrote: >> they probably sell fax machines. > > Their response is a bit like someone sending them credit card details > on a postcard, and them tearing it up (because you shouldn't send > confidential

Re: [mailop] Spammers mining SPF records (of all things)

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017, at 16:19, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 10:52:21AM +0800, ComKal Networks wrote: > > I have noticed the scrapping of whois and dns records > > appears to have increased dramatically over the past > > 2 years. > > Both of those are poor sources of email

Re: [mailop] Mails to microsoft

On 2017-02-09 01:16, Paul Smith wrote: I never understand why users won't just collect mail from the 'proper' mail server rather than having to forward it all to gmail/hotmail. A large portion of our support issues are to do with this forwarding. In my experience, it's because

Re: [mailop] Forwarding issues, was Mails to microsoft

On 2017-02-09 12:25, John Levine wrote: I never understand why users won't just collect mail from the 'proper' mail server rather than having to forward it all to gmail/hotmail. A large portion of our support issues are to do with this forwarding. Bad reason: setting up POP collection takes

Re: [mailop] Odd spamcop glitch

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017, at 17:57, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On 23 Jan 2017 21:30:20 +, "John Levine" said: > > > That led to great merriment, since that's Blue State Digital and mail > > from mainstream political groups went into spamtraps that tested the > > URLs, some of which were

Re: [mailop] SORBS help

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017, at 17:53, Jay Hennigan wrote: > Having a bad credit score is 100% of your problem if you can't get a > loan, and 99% of the time your bad credit score isn't the fault of the > credit bureau. You earned that bad credit score (or RBL listing). This is a good analogy though,

Re: [mailop] Cloudflare not taking actions agains spamers?

On Mon, Sep 5, 2016, at 23:41, Benoit Panizzon wrote: > At least they could forward all spam complaints they receive to the > hoster of the origin on the content. But in my observation, they don't > do that. Truthfully, forwarding complaints is a bit of a messy business as this could easily

Re: [mailop] Spamcop Contact

On Thu, Sep 1, 2016, at 02:16, Benoit Panizzon wrote: > I used to discuss issues on their NNTP Server: > > news://news.spamcop.net/ > > But it is down at the moment (or has it been put out of service? I > haven't connected for a long time)

Re: [mailop] How many more RBL's do we really need?

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016, at 15:22, Michael Peddemors wrote: > On 16-08-30 12:43 PM, Michael Wise via mailop wrote: > > We could use one to call out the location of colo servers that should never > > be connecting on port 443, for instance. > > Um, I can think of a reason why that might not be

Re: [mailop] How many more RBL's do we really need?

Worse still is the silent discards... It makes you beg for a "possible spam detected". The BOFH in me has always wanted to adjust my rejection messages to show the lowest scored DNSBL in the rejection message, then add a bunch of useless, high-false-negative DNSBLs with trivially low scores just

Re: [mailop] Null MX & Preference

that are valid but their UI won't permit. -- Dave Warren http://www.hireahit.com/ http://ca.linkedin.com/in/davejwarren ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] I trust my candor is appreciated...?

their side of the line. Either way, yes, your candor is greatly appreciated! -- Dave Warren http://www.hireahit.com/ http://ca.linkedin.com/in/davejwarren ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] "One-Click" List-Unsubscribe URIs

that to the user and give them a chance to reconsider. -- Dave Warren http://www.hireahit.com/ http://ca.linkedin.com/in/davejwarren ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop

Re: [mailop] signup form abuse

ions here, not missile launch codes; unless one's company depends on mailing lists, the overall resources available to combat a generally-minor problem will be equally minimal and a captcha will defeat the entirety of the types of adversaries which one can expect to encounter. -- Dave Wa

Re: [mailop] signup form abuse

, but require subscription requests to either have valid SPF, DKIM, or some matching of MX/rDNS/something to indicate it might be legitimate. But of course this would require users to actually want to join lists enough to take action, and we can't have friction. -- Dave Warren http

Re: [mailop] signup form abuse

again after compromising the corporate bank account so that wire transfer confirmations are not seen and acted upon in a timely fashion. -- Dave Warren http://www.hireahit.com/ http://ca.linkedin.com/in/davejwarren ___ mailop mailing list mailop

Re: [mailop] Cisco PIX Mailguard Oddity

unplugging them until they catch up to at least 1984, or if that's not possible, at least disable the SMTP-breaking "feature". Even Microsoft published a how-to article on the topic: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/320027 -- Dave Warren http://www.hireahit.com/ http://ca.linkedi

Re: [mailop] Gmail rate limit

I have the old one with 50 accounts. And "hobbled" might be a bit of an exaggeration, but I do run my own servers and I am used to having all sorts of flexibility :) However, hobbled feels right since the features already exist, they're just... well... -- Dave Warren http://www.hi

Re: [mailop] Microsoft/GMail MX Priority Issues - mailop Digest, Vol 100, Issue 32

ocks3.google.com ~all" It's a lot of ranges, and I'm not sure if Google uses them all for mail today, but they well might tomorrow -- I don't see much point in greylisting mail from Google, other than perhaps to allow for URIBLs to learn of new hosts. -- Dave Warren http://www.hireahit

Re: [mailop] Migration of mail client profiles from one system to another

of HKEY_CURRENT_USER (and obviously if the user doesn't have access to the right parts of the registry, neither will Outlook have the ability to create or modify anything) -- Dave Warren http://www.hireahit.com/ http://ca.linkedin.com/in/davejwarren

Re: [mailop] ping DNSBLs

standards or doesn't have the technical competence to avoid listing 127.0.0.1, is it worth caring about? If a DNSBL lists an IP in a forest and nobody ever queries it, does anyone but NANAE care? -- Dave Warren http://www.hireahit.com/ http://ca.linkedin.com/in/davejwarren

Re: [mailop] New method of blocking spam

thod seems to be a slightly modified bayes approach (with the twist of taking word pairs or triplets into account) and I doubt it will be a real game changer, although it may result in some new ways to tune bayes to increase effectiveness. -- Dave Warren http://www.hireahit.com/ http://ca.li

Re: [mailop] Delivery to gmail via IPv6

not a fan of the current trend of using permanent error codes in SMTP for what might well be transient errors (DNS problems, for example), but at the same time, as a sender, I don't see any value in retrying more than 24 hours. It's tough to balance user expectations though. -- Dave W

[mailop] List-Id

Is it my imagination or did the List-Id header change? Is this intentional/permanent and/or should I update filtering rules? Previously: List-Id: For mail operators Now: List-Id: For mail operators -- Dave Warren http://www.hireahit.com/ http://ca.linkedin.com/in/davejwarren

Re: [mailop] Delivery to btinternet.com / cpcloud.co.uk

ve to care about losing legitimate mail, whereas it's not fair to block a sender because a spammer is forging their domain. SPF's neutral, none, softfail and fail responses are mostly just noise. So is it useful? Yes. But does it stop spam? No. -- Dave Warren http://www.hireahit

Re: [mailop] Delivery to btinternet.com / cpcloud.co.uk

, but rather, the BATV-like implementation which rewrites the MAIL FROM field to something trackable. -- Dave Warren http://www.hireahit.com/ http://ca.linkedin.com/in/davejwarren ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org http

Re: [mailop] Apple, iPhone setup, attempts SSL on port 587

and Exchange/ActiveSync accounts as autodiscovery tends to be more common on these platforms) -- Dave Warren http://www.hireahit.com/ http://ca.linkedin.com/in/davejwarren ___ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org http://chilli.nosignal.org/mailman/listinfo