Re: [Marxism] Washington Babylon

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> On Sep 24, 2016, at 12:02 AM, Louis Proyect  wrote:
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> On 9/23/16 11:51 PM, MM wrote:
>> I haven’t seen any of these cited by self-professedly “progressive” people 
>> in support of their "anti-imperialism” (unlike the three I mentioned, all of 
>> whom I’ve seen invoked).
> 
> 
> No, they haven't cited them but if they were consistent they would. The point 
> is that being "anti-intervention" in Syria means that you are okay with 
> Assad. This means that Henry Kissinger, Colin Powell and Brent Snowcroft are 
> "objectively" anti-imperialist. As should be obvious, such a position has 
> little to do with anti-war movements of the past before large sections of the 
> left lost its moral compass.

I don’t disagree with any of that, but I was specifically looking for 
additional names of former government people who have been embraced by the 
anti-imperialist camp in defending their atrocious position. I’m curious to see 
if there’s a pattern that emerges: why Porter, McG and Roberts but not 
Kissinger and Scowcroft? And I’m not asking for speculation about the 
difference (although, feel free); I’m asking for specific names of people whose 
“wisdom” on foreign policy has been cited by our edgier comrades.
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Re: [Marxism] Washington Babylon

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On 9/23/16 11:51 PM, MM wrote:

I haven’t seen any of these cited by self-professedly “progressive” people in 
support of their "anti-imperialism” (unlike the three I mentioned, all of whom 
I’ve seen invoked).




No, they haven't cited them but if they were consistent they would. The 
point is that being "anti-intervention" in Syria means that you are okay 
with Assad. This means that Henry Kissinger, Colin Powell and Brent 
Snowcroft are "objectively" anti-imperialist. As should be obvious, such 
a position has little to do with anti-war movements of the past before 
large sections of the left lost its moral compass.

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[Marxism] FARC militants back peace, but warn against paramilitaries

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Re: [Marxism] Washington Babylon

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On 9/23/16 11:32 PM, MM wrote:


The eager embrace of disgruntled U.S. government hacks by the edgy
anti-imperialist crowd has been a thing to behold. Several come quickly
to mind: Paul Craig Roberts, Ray McGovern, Gareth Porter. Who else — not
“journalists" like Hersh or “commentators” like Cockburn, but actual
former government employees?


Colin Powell

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/colin-powell-us-shouldnt-go-to-war-in-syria-even-though-strategy-to-quell-violence-not-working/
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Re: [Marxism] Washington Babylon

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On 9/23/16 11:32 PM, MM wrote:


The eager embrace of disgruntled U.S. government hacks by the edgy
anti-imperialist crowd has been a thing to behold. Several come quickly
to mind: Paul Craig Roberts, Ray McGovern, Gareth Porter. Who else — not
“journalists" like Hersh or “commentators” like Cockburn, but actual
former government employees?


Brent Snowcroft

http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/brent-scowcroft-warns-against-syria-intervention
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Re: [Marxism] Washington Babylon

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On 9/23/16 11:32 PM, MM wrote:


The eager embrace of disgruntled U.S. government hacks by the edgy
anti-imperialist crowd has been a thing to behold. Several come quickly
to mind: Paul Craig Roberts, Ray McGovern, Gareth Porter. Who else — not
“journalists" like Hersh or “commentators” like Cockburn, but actual
former government employees?



Henry Kissinger

https://sputniknews.com/politics/20160204/1034245385/kissinger-vision-russia-us-relations.html
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Re: [Marxism] Washington Babylon

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> On Sep 23, 2016, at 10:59 PM, Louis Proyect via Marxism 
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> Another rightwing turd in the broad anti-imperialist front

The eager embrace of disgruntled U.S. government hacks by the edgy 
anti-imperialist crowd has been a thing to behold. Several come quickly to 
mind: Paul Craig Roberts, Ray McGovern, Gareth Porter. Who else — not 
“journalists" like Hersh or “commentators” like Cockburn, but actual former 
government employees?
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Re: [Marxism] Washington Babylon

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On 9/23/16 9:42 PM, Andrew Stewart via Marxism wrote:

http://washingtonbabylon.com/six-questions-for-jim-jatras-on-aleppo-boy-atrocity-porn-and-our-godawful-war-loving-media/




"Jim Jatras, a former US diplomat, foreign policy adviser to the Senate 
GOP leadership, and lobbyist comments on financial and foreign policy 
topics and on U.S. politics in his publication TheJIM!gram."


Another rightwing turd in the broad anti-imperialist front who probably 
jacks off to Youtube clips of barrel bombs.

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[Marxism] Why Corbyn still wins

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[Marxism] an analysis of a David Miliband column in the New Statesman

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Analysis of David Miliband

David Miliband’s piece for the New Statesman is seen by some as a prelude
to his return to British politics to challenge the Corbyn ascendancy on
behalf of the Blairite machine. It has also been hailed as the ‘most
significant intellectual contribution from Labour’s Right’. The dominant
narrative structure of the essay is that of a Golden Age followed by
decline and fall.  The Golden Age is unsurprisingly the Blair years where
the Labour party achieved according to Miliband ‘a powerful governing
majority’.  Miliband is a little coy when it comes to dating the beginning
of the decline. It is a reasonable guess though he would date it from his
own defeat when he ran for leadership of the party against his brother, Ed.
 It would appear though things really went to hell with Corbyn’s success.

Miliband begins by lamenting the state of the Left.  The first question
that needs to be asked is in what sense is David Miliband a member of the
Left?  One reads his article in vain to find an answer to that question.
Instead we find a boast about how New Labour had “defined the contours of
political debate”. This is of course a less that innocent claim.  The terms
of debate that New Labour followed were laid down not by Blair or Mandelson
but by Margaret Thatcher.

Instead of hard analysis we get a series of aesthetic flourishes built
around a number of contrasting pairs –inwards v outwards; old v new ideas;
easy rhetoric v hard decisions; rejecting the Blair legacy v building on
it;  pre v post-New Labour; wealth creation v wealth distribution In each
of these pairs it is the Corbyn tendency that represents the first element.

To repeat there is no analysis here, none at all.  It is true that George
Eaton the political editor has praised Miliband’s essay, but that should be
taken more as proof of the lack of political analysis rather than its
presence. As well as the absence of analysis there is a contradiction in
the narrative structure. Somehow regarding the Blair reign as a golden age
is looking to the future while the Corbynites look, of course, to the past.

There is though in the midst of the rhetorical sleight of hand a little
nugget of *Realpolitik*. That comes when Corbyn is accused of not being
enthusiastic enough about Europe or NATO and also of being soft on Russia.
This is a chilling reminder or should be of Miliband’s support for the war
in Iraq and also a warning to us of how keen the Blairites are to support
the American war machine.

But the rest of the article continues to be a melange of clichés signifying
nothing.  One would look in vain, if one wanted to find an examination of
capitalism or neoliberalism.  The reified talk of globalisation covers over
the absence of any thinking about the class basis of the system we live
under.  In Miliband’s thought there is no ruling class.  In his practice
though he was prone to pander to the Chipping Norton elite. References to
the danger that ‘flash mobs’ pose to democracy is a dishonest attempt to
acknowledge the truth that it is the rich and the powerful who most oppose
democracy. Moreover, it is the hatred of democracy that drove the Blairites
to try and get rid of Corbyn against the clear wishes of the majority of
the Labour Party.

Richard Seymour has said that Corbyn shamed the Blairites because he had
answers to the crisis of British politics while they did not.  There is
nothing in Miliband’s article which would show Seymour to be wrong.
Complaining about inequality and dropping Larry Summer’s name and
mentioning ‘secular stagnation’ is no substitute for the class based
realities that we are faced with today. To be fair, as Seymour points out,
Corbyn and his team talk about opposing the Tories and not about fighting
the billionaire class. Miliband and Corbyn both share an aversion to basing
their politics explicitly on a response to the dialectics of class power.
Implicitly though Corbyn is on the side of the people against the class
power of the rich. Miliband for all his rhetorical criticism of
globalisation has no intention of working for the overthrow of the class
system.  Currently, he earns many thousands working for charity, on behalf
of the refugees and the displaced, he assures us. There is no
acknowledgment that the politics he espoused as Foreign Secretary helped
create these same refugees and displaced.

All in all, to read Miliband’s article is encouraging because it affirms
one’s moral and intellectual superiority over him and his Blairite
colleagues. For despite his claims to represent the new, the hard truth is
that David Miliband is committed to the maintenance of the old power and
the old 

[Marxism] Washington Babylon

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[Marxism] Fwd: Paul Street: Keep Calm and Vote Green: Fascism Is Not Coming - Truthdig

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By Paul Street

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[Marxism] Fwd: Ruins of Lifta; Seed | Louis Proyect: The Unrepentant Marxist

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Within the first minute of “Ruins of Lifta”, I immediately recognized 
the co-director and principal subject of the documentary about the 
Israeli-Palestinian conflict that opened today at the Lincoln Plaza 
Cinemas. It was Menachem Daum, a religious Jew from Brooklyn who was 
likewise the co-director and principal subject of “Hiding and Seeking”, 
a film I reviewed in 2004 that chronicled Daum’s visit to Poland with 
his teen-aged sons in an effort to combat the stereotype common among 
Jewry, including his sons who were studying in a yeshiva, that the Poles 
were almost genetically disposed to anti-Semitism like the Germans were 
according to Daniel Goldhagen.


full: https://louisproyect.org/2016/09/23/ruins-of-lifta-seed/
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[Marxism] Fwd: How Bill Maher Lost His Teeth (and Became A Parrot for the U.S. War Machine) :: Politics :: Features :: Bill Maher :: Paste

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[Marxism] Frederic Jameson versus Ernest Mandel

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It's been decades since I read Mandel's Delightful Murder, but I am happy to 
recommend it.
Mandel was a voracious reader and even when relaxing with escapist literature 
he couldn't stop himself from analyzing what he was reading.
And this is to the benefit of those who have enjoyed this book and those who 
will enjoy it.
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[Marxism] [UCE] Fwd: Notes from Nine-Nine Decarcerate Event

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[Marxism] Fwd: How A Decision In May Changed The General Election - BuzzFeed News

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It’s hard to remember now, but Hillary Clinton once cast Donald Trump as 
a product of the same old Republican extremism Democrats always talk 
about. Four months ago, her campaign blew it all up, arguing that Trump 
isn’t like any other Republican, distancing policy and partisanship from 
Clinton’s message, and dragging Democrats along.


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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Nader: Trump is a Freeloading, Pontificating Empty Suit Who Has Cheated on Everything He's Done | Democracy Now!

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Nader: "I will never vote for someone who is going to engage in illegal 
armed force, unconstitutional killing of innocent people, selling 
Washington to Wall Street and driving our country into the ground, all 
the time sugarcoating the American people on TV with rhetoric."


He has that about right, except that he doesn't mention the two 
candidates' weak or non-existent positions on the most important issues 
facing us, the collapsing environment, and spelling out what "selling 
Washington to Wall Street" really means, in terms of the rapacious use 
of force to be used by mega-oligopolies whose only concern is 
concentration and centralization of capital and its unlimited expansion, 
truly by any means necessary including the complete destruction of 
civilization and the habitable planet. The deranged objective of capital 
is to subdue all opposition on the globe wherever it occurs and to pull 
everyone into line behind them. That is the inexorable recipe for saving 
capital, with its stagnant, flailing economy, increasing global 
joblessness and impoverishment, and its staggering indebtedness in the 
unimaginable trillions of dollars. Hillary Clinton no less than Donald 
Trump is in pursuit of those same objectives. Savage destruction becomes 
a virtual certainty on the present course, which is why at the least we 
use our ineffectual franchise to protest against what's happening to us, 
and in the absence of any effective organization of the rest of us to at 
least register by that sorry vote the extent of resistance, and some 
indication of our own potential power.



And wtf does anyone think minorities, people of color, the poor and the 
rest of the people on the planet are going to get under the Democrats - 
or the Republicans - other than what they have been getting for years 
under those regimes and worse? What are they getting now? How safe is a 
Black person confined to the so-called informal economy and a life in 
prison now from a shooting death at the hands of police on American 
streets? How safe is an immigrant coming up from Central America, where 
NAFTA, CAFTA and US finance capital have destroyed their life chances in 
their home countries?


What kind of hapless dream world do the Hillary advocates who purport to 
be on the left live in? And if they're not on the left, why don't they 
troll elsewhere?




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[Marxism] NY Times on the side of the Charlotte killer cops

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Look how the NY Times helps make the case for the Charlotte cops. This 
"reporting" is calculated to prejudice readers against the victim of 
out-of-control cops:


"Mr. Scott’s family residence was not the best maintained of the homes 
in a largely tidy place: Paint had either been stripped from the front 
door or peeled off. Blinds were bent, and a window screen was lying in 
the bushes on Wednesday. A burglar alarm service sign had been uprooted 
and was lying upside down."


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Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Nader: Trump is a Freeloading, Pontificating Empty Suit Who Has Cheated on Everything He's Done | Democracy Now!

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Good one Mark!!

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Mark Lause via Marxism <
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> Yep, they're not at all like Hillary X . . .
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Clay Claiborne via Marxism <
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Yep, they're not at all like Hillary X . . .

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> For example, in this interview, Amy asks Nader what Trump would do as
> president.
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What is it with the white Left? How do thy manage to ignore the national
question.

For example, in this interview, Amy asks Nader what Trump would do as
president.

Does he mention nat'l stop & frisk, a wall for Mexico, deporting
undocumented workers, banning Muslims. None of this is mentioned but people
who call him or Stein spoilers are bigots.

Unreal!  Clearly this is two white Leftists talking because no one else is
so blind to the main question the election.

THIS IS THE MAIN PROBLEM IN THE WORLD TODAY. THE LEFT IS DOMINATED BY
CHAUVINISTS.

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[Marxism] [SUSPICIOUS MESSAGE] U.S. to Step Up Deportations of Haitians Amid Surge at Border

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(A more accurate title for this article would be "Obama to Step Up 
Deportations of Haitians Amid Surge at Border" but that might undercut 
the NYT's goal of seeing Hillary Clinton serving as Obama's 3rd term.)


U.S. to Step Up Deportations of Haitians Amid Surge at Border
By KIRK SEMPLE

MEXICO CITY — The Obama administration, responding to an extraordinary 
wave of Haitian migrants seeking to enter the United States, said on 
Thursday that it would fully resume deportations of undocumented Haitian 
immigrants.


After an earthquake devastated parts of Haiti in 2010, the United States 
suspended deportations, saying that sending Haitians back to the country 
at a time of great instability would put their lives at risk. About a 
year later, officials partly resumed deportations, focusing on people 
convicted of serious crimes or those considered a threat to national 
security.


But since last spring, thousands of Haitian migrants who had moved to 
Brazil in search of work have been streaming north, mostly by land, 
winding up at American border crossings that lead to Southern California.


Few have arrived with American visas, but nearly all have been allowed 
to enter the United States because immigration officials were 
prohibited, under the modified deportation policy, from using the 
so-called fast-track removal process often employed at the border for 
new, undocumented arrivals.


Instead, the migrants were placed in a slower deportation process and 
released, with an appointment to appear in immigration court at a later 
date, officials said. Since early summer, most have been given 
permission to remain in the country for as long as three years under a 
humanitarian parole provision, immigrant advocates said.


With the full resumption of deportations, which took effect on Thursday 
morning, Haitians who arrive at the border without visas will be put 
into expedited removal proceedings.


Jeh Johnson, the secretary of Homeland Security, said in a statement 
that conditions in Haiti had “improved sufficiently to permit the U.S. 
government to remove Haitian nationals on a more regular basis.”


While Mr. Johnson’s statement did not mention the recent influx of 
Haitians along the southwestern border, Homeland Security officials, 
during a conference call with reporters, cited the migrant wave as the 
other major factor in the administration’s decision.


Since last October, officials said, more than 5,000 Haitians without 
visas have shown up at the San Ysidro crossing that links Tijuana, 
Mexico, with San Diego. By comparison, 339 Haitians without visas 
arrived at the San Ysidro crossing in the 2015 fiscal year.


An additional 4,000 to 6,000 Haitians were thought to be making their 
way from Brazil, immigrant advocates in San Diego and Tijuana said, 
based on estimates from shelters along the Brazil-to-Mexico migration route.


The message to those Haitians from the Obama administration, however, 
seems clear: Turn around or go elsewhere.


An uptick in deportations might not occur immediately. Removals require 
the cooperation of and paperwork from the receiving country, and 
Homeland Security officials said they were still in talks with the 
Haitian government about the policy shift.


In the meantime, officials said, nearly all Haitians stopped at the 
border and scheduled for accelerated deportations will be put into 
detention centers.


Officials clarified, however, that asylum law would continue to apply to 
newly arriving Haitians. A migrant who feared returning to Haiti because 
of the threat of persecution or torture would be interviewed to 
determine whether that fear was credible. If an immigration officer 
determined it was, the immigrant could apply for asylum.


Haitian immigrants covered by temporary protected status would be 
unaffected by the change in policy.


Over the summer, the unusual surge in Haitian migrants was accompanied 
by an equally unusual surge in migrants from more than two dozen other 
countries, nearly all traveling along the same arduous routes from South 
America, across as many as 10 borders.


The migratory wave has overwhelmed shelters along the way, particularly 
in Tijuana, where the shelters have been at or over capacity for much of 
the past four months, while also struggling with language and cultural 
barriers. Some migrants, because they were unable to find accommodations 
or wanted to avoid shelter living, have chosen to sleep on the streets.


Haitians started migrating to Brazil in large numbers after the 
earthquake. Haiti was reeling, but Brazil was ascendant, and it had a 
need for cheap labor, especially with the World Cup 

[Marxism] [UCE] Fwd: TLSHow Marxist are the Corbynistas? – TheTLS

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By Richard Seymour

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[Marxism] Frederic Jameson versus Ernest Mandel

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(Posted to FB by Tony McKenna. The colleague he refers to is me.)

Recently I was asked by Monthly Review Magazine do to a review of 
Fredric Jameson’s new book on Raymond Chandler. I had not really read 
Jameson before, so was looking forward to it – only it turned out that 
he was one of these fashionable "superstar academics" who uses 
ridiculously opaque jargon but offers very little by way of genuine 
meaning. Naturally I wrote a negative review, which the magazine then 
spiked – the review was fine, they said, but it wasn't their policy to 
publish reviews of books they wouldn’t recommend their readership to buy.


Frustrating.

Wasn’t a total loss though. As part of my research, a colleague 
recommended a book by Ernest Mandel on the detective genre which I had 
never heard of before (‘Delightful Murder’). It provides a thoughtful 
and clear historical account of the genre. And I was struck by the 
difference with the Jameson book, and just how much kudos and props 
figures like Jameson get. Here are two paragraphs: one from Jameson, one 
from Mandel. I wonder how many people can guess which is which:


“when the Depression came, it gave fresh and frightening impetus to 
crime of all sorts…The coming age of organized crime tolled the death 
knell of the drawing-room detective story…an abrupt break with the 
gentility of the classical detective story, especially with crime based 
on individual psychological motives like greed and revenge.”


“hermeneutic activity (whether that of the textual interpreter or that 
of Marlowe and other detectives) 1) as a ritual, as an activity whose 
connotative meaning confirms and secures an ideology which greatly 
transcends its immediate denotative intent (the immediate solution to 
the enigma or problem); and 2) as a spatial form, that is, an activity 
whose fundamental material organization is to be found in space (rather 
than in cognitive categories”.

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[Marxism] Fwd: U.S. Policy in Syria: Regime Change or Regime ‘Facelift’? - YouTube

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Ashley Smith interviewed on show generally featuring Assadist supporters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18aHqyKFPzk 
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[Marxism] A Change Has Gotta' Come: Bill Ayers' new book reviewed

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http://stillhomeron.blogspot.com/2016/09/a-change-has-gotta-gome.html
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