Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Obama said on Tunisian rebellion :

2011-01-26 Thread Shane Mage
giving full support to Mubarak's stable (meaning the army is still torturing, jailing, and shooting down the people) regime. Hopefully he soon will take about standing with the people of Egypt. Once they have forced him to stop standing on their backs. Shane Mage The communist creed: From each

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Obama said on Tunisian rebellion :

2011-01-26 Thread Shane Mage
is still giving full support to Mubarak's stable (meaning the army is still torturing, jailing, and shooting down the people) regime. Hopefully he soon will talk about standing with the people of Egypt. Once they have forced him to stop standing on their backs. Shane Mage The communist creed

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What is human knowledge?

2011-01-26 Thread Shane Mage
connection. Shane Mage When we read on a printed page the doctrine of Pythagoras that all things are made of numbers, it seems mystical, mystifying, even downright silly. When we read on a computer screen the doctrine of Pythagoras that all things are made of numbers, it seems self-evidently

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Martin Luther King Jr. and the attack on public workers

2011-01-18 Thread Shane Mage
. Some Democrats!!! Shane Mage The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed. Joe Stack (1956-2010) ___ Marxism

Re: [Marxism] How American Class Struggle Works

2010-12-14 Thread Shane Mage
productivity statistics need to be taken with an ocean's worth of salt. Shane Mage All things are an equal exchange for fire and fire for all things, as goods are for gold and gold for goods. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr, 90 Send list submissions

Re: [Marxism] Does Liu Xiaobo Really Deserve the Peace Prize?

2010-12-13 Thread Shane Mage
for democracy (Charter '08) that they made him the most prominent and symbolically important political prisoner in the world. *Not* awarding the Nobel to Liu would have been even more craven and disgraceful than was awarding it to Obama. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos

Re: [Marxism] Does Liu Xiaobo Really Deserve the Peace Prize?

2010-12-13 Thread Shane Mage
, Nelson Mandela, and Aung San Su Kyi, bourgeois democratic political prisoners all. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64 Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http

Re: [Marxism] Does Liu Xiaobo Really Deserve the Peace Prize?

2010-12-13 Thread Shane Mage
: == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On 12/13/2010 4:01 PM, Shane Mage quoted me: WTF does that mean? MLK bourgeois democratic? On 12/13/2010 4

Re: [Marxism] Does Liu Xiaobo Really Deserve the Peace Prize?

2010-12-13 Thread Shane Mage
, and the legacy, of MLK to compare him to Mandela. Ah, but what would you have written about him had Mandela been assassinated on the morrow of his Nobel? Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64 Send

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The Fate of a Cold War Vestige

2010-12-13 Thread Shane Mage
lasts forever. The universe lasts forever. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos of Ephesos ___ Marxism-Thaxis

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The Fate of a Cold War Vestige

2010-12-13 Thread Shane Mage
On Dec 13, 2010, at 3:07 PM, c b wrote: On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Shane Mage shm...@pipeline.com wrote: On Dec 13, 2010, at 2:07 PM, c b wrote: ...It is something of a law of history that sooner or later all empires must collapse. ^ CB: See _Dialectics of Nature_

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The Fate of a Cold War Vestige

2010-12-13 Thread Shane Mage
approximate. Now imagine that it is accurate to an unlimited (virtually infinite) number of digits. That's a point in time. Before, you were an unborn baby. Afterward, you were a born baby. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall

Re: [Marxism] Nader is losing it

2010-12-12 Thread Shane Mage
yes he's the incumbent. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos of Ephesos Send list submissions

Re: [Marxism] Nader is losing it

2010-12-11 Thread Shane Mage
campaign against the three capitalist candidates. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64 Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism

Re: [Marxism] Nader is losing it

2010-12-11 Thread Shane Mage
: == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On 12/11/10 4:37 PM, Shane Mage wrote: How is he losing it? Mainly by omitting any reference to how

Re: [Marxism] Pressure mounts for European fiscal union

2010-12-06 Thread Shane Mage
brainchild of the governments of Luxembourg, Belgium, and Italy. I wasn't aware that Belgium *has* a government. Shane Mage Porphyry in his Abstinance from Animal Flesh suggests that there are appropriate offerings to all the Gods, and to the highest the only offering acceptable is silence

[Marxism] ASorry, Frank. I paid for them and I can see them if I want to.

2010-12-01 Thread Shane Mage
, Frank. We paid for them and we have a moral right to see them if we want to. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64 Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http

Re: [Marxism] A comment by Diana Johnstone on A Serbian film, Croats and Muslims, and the left

2010-12-01 Thread Shane Mage
remember, in 1942-43, reading the Daily Worker and PM, listening to Johannes Steel and Elmer Davis on the radio. For two years the whole of Stalinist/fellow-traveler propaganda centered on one and only one point: the demand for an immediate Second Front. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all

Re: [Marxism] Making a Mockery of the Real Crime of Rape: Assange Beseiged

2010-11-21 Thread Shane Mage
is a very dubious character. Yes. I was gasping at his totally irrelevant invocation of the arch- antisemitic stereotype *Judas*. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64 Send list submissions to: Marxism

Re: [Marxism] If only....

2010-11-12 Thread Shane Mage
: == Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Shane Mage writes: Protection has nothing to do with it. Its a matter of who has a right to what. Why should

Re: [Marxism] Lincoln Elected 150 Years Ago This Day

2010-11-06 Thread Shane Mage
your support for Lincoln. Read, if you haven't, William Marvel, /Mr. Lincoln Goes to War/ (2006). A book that can indeed be judged by its cover (where the title is displayed). Mr. Lincoln didn't go to war--the war went to him. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make

Re: [Marxism] Gene Debs

2010-11-06 Thread Shane Mage
trial. But popular history, as always, had the last laugh. Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a apporté. Bardo Thodol Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options

Re: [Marxism] Turning the Financial Question On Its Head--Is There An Answer Here?

2010-10-30 Thread Shane Mage
, before they were captured by the money cranks, did question the distribution of wealth. The 1930's wave (Long, Townsend, Sinclair) certainly challenged the distribution of wealth (Every Man a King, Every Gal a Queen!) Shane Mage The communist creed: From each according to his ability

Re: [Marxism] Larry Clark censored in Paris

2010-10-17 Thread Shane Mage
, more understanding of Delanoë's defensive posture might be in order. I suspect that the word among museum staff is surtout, pas de zèle! Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a apporté. Bardo Thodol

Re: [Marxism] Larry Clark censored in Paris

2010-10-17 Thread Shane Mage
... (recall the obscene delight taken by some in the persecution of Polanski) Thanks for illustrating my point. Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a apporté. Bardo Thodol Send list

Re: [Marxism] Larry Clark censored in Paris

2010-10-17 Thread Shane Mage
, 2010, at 4:33 PM, S. Artesian wrote: Hey Shane-- have I ever told you what a disingenuous jerk you are on the Polanski issue?... Our moderator had already spoken. ...else I should answer from a full-flowing stomach... (King Lear, Act V, Scene III) Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things

[Marxism] Fwd: Call for pot

2010-10-14 Thread Shane Mage
: October 14, 2010 4:36:40 PM EDT To: Shane Mage shm...@pipeline.com Subject: Call for pot Reply-To: a...@firedoglake.com Prop 19 needs your help to pass. Can you pledge a few minutes of your weekend to call young voters for Prop 19? Click here to pledge to call voters this weekend and help

Re: [Marxism] First things first [Re: Positive development in Ecuador?]

2010-10-13 Thread Shane Mage
, had a simple approach--toujours l'audace!). Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64 Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism

Re: [Marxism] Imperative mandates

2010-10-11 Thread Shane Mage
of those councils. I repeat: the only possible democracy in a non-tiny community is choice of the governing authority by random selection among the entire population. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64

Re: [Marxism] Jihadist ecology

2010-10-10 Thread Shane Mage
new nonsensical scare propaganda. Shane Mage The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed. Joe Stack (1956-2010

Re: [Marxism] Imperative mandates

2010-10-10 Thread Shane Mage
referendum of the entire community. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos of Ephesos Send list

Re: [Marxism] Americans hate big government but love what it does

2010-10-10 Thread Shane Mage
religious faith, can quickly fall away... Seems to me that, far from dropping their religious faith, they were actively demonstrating it. Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a apporté. Bardo Thodol

Re: [Marxism] English Bronze Age boy grew up in the Mediterranean

2010-09-28 Thread Shane Mage
. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64 Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com

Re: [Marxism] General Strikes in France

2010-09-24 Thread Shane Mage
, then to force workers eager to retire to work two more years and so condemn their young eventual replacements to an additional two years of unemployment? That's neoliberalism for you. Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a apporté. Bardo Thodol

Re: [Marxism] Did Trotsky bring a lawsuit in Switzerland against Dimitrov in ...

2010-09-22 Thread Shane Mage
, with fanatical advocates. I maintain that the question of Stalin is raised 9 out of 10 times on this list by Trotskyites. etc. Since this, like other of his posts, cannot be discussed without entering into what is not discussable on this list, why is WL not on moderation? Shane Mage

Re: [Marxism] Why is gu..no lover C..A stooge danan still on the list?

2010-09-19 Thread Shane Mage
appropriate use of the word b..ch is regarded as outrageous? Shane Mage Porphyry in his Abstinance from Animal Flesh suggests that there are appropriate offerings to all the Gods, and to the highest the only offering acceptable is silence. Send list

Re: [Marxism] Autumn of the Driveler

2010-09-17 Thread Shane Mage
counterrevolutionary regime whose aid was motivated by imperial interests, just as much as was the hostility of the Americans, and that by accepting a political quid pro quo for that aid they were effectively sabotaging their own revolution. Shane Mage All things are an equal exchange for fire

Re: [Marxism] Autumn of the Driveler

2010-09-17 Thread Shane Mage
quid pro quo for that aid they were effectively sabotaging their own revolution. But, Shane, you don't really distinguish Castro from Stalin so your point is rather specious. On Sep 17, 2010, at 8:31 PM, Louis Proyect wrote: On 9/17/10 8:25 PM, Shane Mage wrote: I have consistently referred

Re: [Marxism] Cuba headed in the same direction as China and Vietnam?

2010-09-14 Thread Shane Mage
recommendation of NEP? See *My Life, pp. 463 ff. On Sep 13, 2010, at 3:05 PM, Shane Mage wrote: On Sep 13, 2010, at 5:53 PM, midhurs...@aol.com wrote: Finally taking Lenin's model 90 years on Actually 89--Lenin proposed it in 1921. It was Trotsky who first proposed it, in 1920. Shane Mage All

Re: [Marxism] Cuba headed in the same direction as China and Vietnam?

2010-09-13 Thread Shane Mage
model 90 years on Actually 89--Lenin proposed it in 1921. It was Trotsky who first proposed it, in 1920. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos

Re: [Marxism] New Communist Movement vs Trotskyism, without the rivers of blood

2010-09-12 Thread Shane Mage
and colonial revolutionary regimes) minority, takes a certain idealism, courage, devotion to truth, and intellectuality. That these qualities were generally lacking among those willing to be apologists for any form of Stalinism is only to be expected. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things

Re: [Marxism] General Strike in France tomorrow

2010-09-07 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Sep 6, 2010, at 4:24 PM, Mark Lause wrote: And what chances, if any, are

Re: [Marxism] Michael Heinrich on Capitalism and the State

2010-09-02 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Sep 2, 2010, at 3:11 PM, Angelus Novus wrote: Shane Mage: And how could

Re: [Marxism] Daniel Estulin and the phony 'Bilderberg conspiracy'

2010-09-02 Thread Shane Mage
acquainted with a chap named Lee Smith. I didn't know you were a Cub fan! Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a apporté. Bardo Thodol Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your

[Marxism] after we leave

2010-09-01 Thread Shane Mage
will not be remembered for when we leave Iraq but for what happens after we leave. That is largely in Iraqi hands, but it is still very much in our interest. So we need to retain sufficient diplomatic, intelligence, Special Forces and Army training units there to promote a decent outcome. Shane Mage

Re: [Marxism] cricket lovely cricket

2010-08-29 Thread Shane Mage
clause was abolished when the players finally unionized in the early 1970's. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64 Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http

Re: [Marxism] self-indulgence

2010-08-14 Thread Shane Mage
??? (the content of the universe immediately prior to the Big Bang was without form and void (Genesis 1) but then the Big Banger got to work... Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out

Re: [Marxism] self-indulgence

2010-08-14 Thread Shane Mage
it. On 8/13/10 10:40 AM, Shane Mage wrote: ...the story that Pullman and Williams treat as an edifying fable rather than a historical event ... must be recaptured from the mass of Pauline falsification. Shane Mage Porphyry in his Abstinance from Animal Flesh suggests

Re: [Marxism] self-indulgence

2010-08-14 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Aug 14, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Shane Mage wrote: On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:56 PM, C

Re: [Marxism] Global warming

2010-08-14 Thread Shane Mage
warming taking place precisely in the region--the arctic--where waste heat plays virtually no role? Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos of Ephesos

Re: [Marxism] self-indulgence

2010-08-14 Thread Shane Mage
no reference whatever to any concept of deity found in the Bible, the Koran, or the Gospels. On Aug 14, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Shane Mage wrote: On Aug 14, 2010, at 1:56 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote: But neither of the two essentially different concepts

Re: [Marxism] self-indulgence

2010-08-14 Thread Shane Mage
is to show the fly how to get out of the bottle. The bottle is the question Why is there anything instead of nothing? The way out is to answer the question posed by Mr. Clinton: It depends on what the meaning of is is. Shane Mage Porphyry in his Abstinance from Animal Flesh suggests

Re: [Marxism] self-indulgence

2010-08-14 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == God is the label we put on the answer to the question: Why is there anything

Re: [Marxism] self-indulgence

2010-08-13 Thread Shane Mage
in the creation (pantheism) and therefore a separate creator is otiose. Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a apporté. Bardo Thodol Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your

Re: [Marxism] self-indulgence

2010-08-13 Thread Shane Mage
the Younger's letters express that distinction very well). Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64 Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman

Re: [Marxism] self-indulgence

2010-08-12 Thread Shane Mage
were *armed* Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a apporté. Bardo Thodol Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options

Re: [Marxism] self-indulgence

2010-08-12 Thread Shane Mage
praying all night if they wanted to. Why did they all go to the Mount of Olives and make sure the Temple Police were informed? Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64 Send list submissions to: Marxism

Re: [Marxism] self-indulgence

2010-08-12 Thread Shane Mage
in Matthew and Luke - that is to say, rather beside the point. The point is that each and any Messiah had to be descended from David. The two genealogies establish descent one through the foster father, the other through the mother. They complement, not compete with, each other. Shane

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Genes don't have selves

2010-08-12 Thread Shane Mage
are not survival machines... Every species of dinosaur went extinct. Their descendant gene- carriers are all around us. Every one of our ancestral hominid species went extinct. We all carry most of their genes. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always

Re: [Marxism] Arch-Zionist claims that Israel will bomb Iran's nuclear facili...

2010-08-11 Thread Shane Mage
are authorized only for third-country hips. All this warscare talk is just hysteria propagated by a senile Cuban. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64 Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu

Re: [Marxism] evolutionary psychology and socialism?

2010-08-08 Thread Shane Mage
predictions? Does EP advance our *practical* knowledge of human nature? Thems the only questions that matter. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos

Re: [Marxism] Victory for Same Sex Marriage in Federal Court

2010-08-04 Thread Shane Mage
on the whole gay-rights issue. Shane Mage Porphyry in his Abstinance from Animal Flesh suggests that there are appropriate offerings to all the Gods, and to the highest the only offering acceptable is silence. Send list submissions

Re: [Marxism] Victory for Same Sex Marriage in Federal Court

2010-08-04 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Aug 4, 2010, at 10:29 PM, Shane Mage wrote: On Aug 4, 2010, at 10:09 PM, Les

Re: [Marxism] Stalinism and Bakuninism

2010-08-02 Thread Shane Mage
to be sent to the guillotine by Robespierre. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64 Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options

Re: [Marxism] Stalinism and Bakuninism

2010-08-01 Thread Shane Mage
cothinkers have anything to do with. A Leftist can do no better were he actually endeavoring to discredit the very idea of revolution. Shane Mage The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility

Re: [Marxism] Stalinism and Bakuninism

2010-08-01 Thread Shane Mage
all references to such facts as right-wing horror stories. I took that as manifesting a certain, all-too-common, attitude toward the Robespierres and Jeffersons and their Revolutionary successors. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall

Re: [Marxism] Animal Connection Helps Separate Humans From Other Species

2010-08-01 Thread Shane Mage
... And just how is a relationship for which there is no evidence dating more than a few millennia supposed to have influenced evolution starting 2.6 million years ago? Shane Mage Porphyry in his Abstinance from Animal Flesh suggests that there are appropriate offerings to all the Gods

[Marxism] The march of idiocy

2010-07-28 Thread Shane Mage
rebirths will be as bull-calf, once to be destined for the veal stall and once for the abattoir. Shane Mage Porphyry in his Abstinance from Animal Flesh suggests that there are appropriate offerings to all the Gods, and to the highest the only offering acceptable is silence

Re: [Marxism] Why Misogynists Make Great Informants: THANK YOU MY BROTHAH!!!!!

2010-07-18 Thread Shane Mage
an elderly Holocaust survivor, victim of the atrocious murder of his wife and unborn child, and extortion victim into the dungeons of the California penal system, prey (as a supposed pedophile) to the violent whims of any antisemite or racist inmate or guard. Shane Mage Thunderbolt

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Calhoun

2010-07-16 Thread Shane Mage
entitled the chapter on Calhoun The Marx of the Master Class. Shane Mage All things are an equal exchange for fire and fire for all things, as goods are for gold and gold for goods. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr, 90 ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism

Re: [Marxism] A question to mathematicians on this list

2010-07-12 Thread Shane Mage
resides in a collective superconscious field into which some individual animals (even human ones) sometime attain a subconscious attunement, producing real results that a mechanistic world view dismisses as anomalous. Shane Mage The sibyl, with raving mouth, uttering things mirthless

Re: [Marxism] Polanski is Free!! (NYTimes.com: Swiss Reject U.S. Request to Extradite Polanski)

2010-07-12 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Jul 12, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Dennis Brasky wrote: A rapist Libelous language

Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Re: Calculating Octopus (Was: A question to mathematicians)

2010-07-12 Thread Shane Mage
much--a 99.8 percent significance level is not significantly different from a 99.6% level. On 11:59 AM, johnaimani wrote: 2 to the 9th power Shane Mage The sibyl, with raving mouth, uttering things mirthless unadorned and unperfumed, reaches over a thousand years with her voice

Re: [Marxism] A question to mathematicians on this list

2010-07-12 Thread Shane Mage
. If the preference exists it will show clearly. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64 Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism

Re: [Marxism] Formulating a path to abolish the working class - isn't it already too late?

2010-07-06 Thread Shane Mage
created, for all of them. Between this moment and that blessed state there exists...historical time. Marxian politics deals with what happens *during* that epoch. About which Angelus seems to have scarcely anything to say. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64

Re: [Marxism] Black bloc stupidity

2010-06-28 Thread Shane Mage
, whenever and wherever they raise their (masked) heads they serve as media propaganda vehicles to stigmatize every mass protest and justify apologetics for every action of mass repression. That's *all* they are and no worthwhile action can tolerate them within its ranks. Shane Mage

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] American Jews Who Reject Zionism

2010-06-26 Thread Shane Mage
) in their migration from Khazaria to the Pannonian plains. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64 ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] American Jews Who Reject Zionism

2010-06-26 Thread Shane Mage
On Jun 26, 2010, at 11:51 PM, Shane Mage wrote: Whoops. I wrote eastward when I meant westward. On Jun 26, 2010, at 11:27 PM, CeJ wrote: As I understand it, the now infamous Koestler 13th Tribe thesis was really an attempt of a non-religious Zionist to show that the Jews of Europe

Re: [Marxism] Something else about Vargas and Fascism

2010-06-23 Thread Shane Mage
capitalist natins. Put another way, any democracy outside the core nations is CIA controlled. A truly magnificent epitomization of Stalinist ideology updated for the post-1990 world! Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64

Re: [Marxism] News from France

2010-06-23 Thread Shane Mage
. By the way, in an interview some four or five months ago, Daniel Cohn- Bendit already predicted that Les Bleus would crash and burn unless Domenech were immediately fired (as any major-league manager in baseball would have been with a performance half as bad). Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une

Re: [Marxism] Turkey, The Kurds and The Gaza Flotilla - A Call For An End To Double Standards

2010-06-21 Thread Shane Mage
denouncing the Cubans for accepting military and financial support from the Kremlin... But that support came at a price...Castro's endorsement of the counterrevolutionary Stalinist invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968--an act of betrayal for which the Cubans have *never* apologized. Shane

Re: [Marxism] Prospects

2010-06-21 Thread Shane Mage
it universally available. And that cost is the guaranteed monetary return on investment demanded by capital before the investment is permitted. The capitalist mode of production thus today stands as the absolute barrier to its own reproduction. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos

Re: [Marxism] Bonapartism

2010-06-21 Thread Shane Mage
analogies. Shane Mage Porphyry in his Abstinance from Animal Flesh suggests that there are appropriate offerings to all the Gods, and to the highest the only offering acceptable is silence. Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu

Re: [Marxism] Christian Fascism in the USA?

2010-06-20 Thread Shane Mage
to intellectual testimonium paupertatis. Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a apporté. Bardo Thodol Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http

Re: [Marxism] Roseanne Barr says Israel must end their blockade and occupatio...

2010-06-17 Thread Shane Mage
writes: She supports a two state solution. This should be clear enough for most of us. Reply, Unless of course this is a joke? A maoist? Maoism is just a (very bad) joke. Shane Mage The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. The capitalist

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Shane Mage
is oppressing it? Tibet, as virtually all the Tibetans know, is clearly an oppressed nation--who is oppressing it? Is Saudi Arabia an oppressed nation? If so, who is oppressing it? etc. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-05 Thread Shane Mage
begging the question, by asserting of the validity of the term imperialism as descriptive of geopolitical relations without reference to the categories of political economy defined and determined in Das Kapital? Shane Mage The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each

[Marxism] Who are the real crazies in our political culture?

2010-05-29 Thread Shane Mage
are actually in power. Shane Mage The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed. Joe Stack (1956-2010) Send

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Launching Language: The Gestural Origin ofDiscrete Infinity

2010-05-24 Thread Shane Mage
be competing with. The wheel or how to make a stone axe may be invented by some chimp genius, but if there is no way to pass it on Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out

Re: [Marxism] Lenin's Imperialism, was: Question on the Far Right

2010-05-16 Thread Shane Mage
, like computer chips, are quickly transformed into commodities that over time provide, on the average, only average profits. Imperialism is only mercantilism writ large. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire

Re: [Marxism] The Overwhelming Odds Against Darwin

2010-05-16 Thread Shane Mage
inheritable variation? Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos of Ephesos Send list submissions

Re: [Marxism] The Overwhelming Odds Against Darwin

2010-05-13 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On May 13, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Ken Ranney wrote: Comrades- As all signs indicate

Re: [Marxism] The Overwhelming Odds Against Darwin

2010-05-13 Thread Shane Mage
and Darwin never said that it was. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos of Ephesos Send list

Re: [Marxism] Is this a Trotskyist list, Or what limits

2010-05-10 Thread Shane Mage
as the bolshevization of American socialism imagined by the Third International. Socialism in the degenerate capitalist epoch of global environmental crisis verging on catastrophe must be consciously global or it will be nothing. National exceptionalism--especially American!--is suicidal. Shane Mage

Re: [Marxism] Is this a Trotskyist list? Or, what are its limits?

2010-05-09 Thread Shane Mage
as a primary historical/political/intellectual source) but not a Trotskyist (identifying with any of the organizational manifestations stemming from the abortive Fourth International). Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things. Herakleitos of Ephesos, fr. 64

Re: [Marxism] Marxism and capital sources

2010-04-28 Thread Shane Mage
* Shane Mage The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need. The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed. Joe Stack (1956-2010) Send list submissions

Re: [Marxism] The Party's Role

2010-04-25 Thread Shane Mage
. If whoever was posting this slander were not a putz he would have chosen some less offensive pseudonym. Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a apporté. Bardo Thodol Send list submissions

Re: [Marxism] Too Stupid for Words [was:Evo Morales: eating chicken causes male homosexuality and baldness]

2010-04-23 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Apr 23, 2010, at 11:54 AM, S. Artesian wrote: Can we not just shitcan this

Re: [Marxism] Moderator's note

2010-04-21 Thread Shane Mage
by the Salafists of every religion and of none. Shane Mage L'après-vie, c'est une auberge espagnole. L'on n'y trouve que ce qu'on a apporté. Bardo Thodol Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http

Re: [Marxism] The Anatomy of Teabagging

2010-04-18 Thread Shane Mage
look (relatively) less like a puppet, and it gives the Liberal Idiocracy something to get its knickers in a twist over while they go on supporting the Ubu-lite scam in Washington. Shane Mage The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need

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