Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Super Capitalism, Super Imperialism and Monetary Imper...

2009-01-06 Thread Waistline2
In a message dated 1/6/2009 2:21:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, jann...@gmail.com writes: An industrial capital formation as a historically distinct sector of capital no longer exist. I am not aware of one single economist of note that speaks of an industrial sector of capital. Not one.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The Crash of 2008 and Historical Materialism (6)

2009-01-06 Thread Waistline2
Comrade Case puts forth several points as immediate and partial solution to the 2008 crisis. These points begin with: 1). Economic infrastructures, including much of the financial system must be further socialized. This is necessary to begin the large institutional restructuring process

[Marxism-Thaxis] Systemic Threat?

2009-01-06 Thread Charles Brown
Re: [PEN-L] Systemic Threat? Eubulides Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:34:29 -0800 On 11/10/05, raghu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Carrol, For financial economists, systemic threat means a situation where the regular functioning of the financial markets (i.e. the equity, forex and the futures markets)

[Marxism-Thaxis] The Crash of 2008 and Historical Materialism (2)

2009-01-06 Thread Charles Brown
Exactly. Though I would recommend the whole of Part IV of _Capital_ Vol. I to get the whole swoop on the Industrial Revolution. Part IV: Production of Relative Surplus Value Ch. 12: The Concept of Relative Surplus-Value Ch. 13: Co-operation Ch. 14: Division of Labour and Manufacture Ch. 15:

[Marxism-Thaxis] The Crash of 2008 and Historical Materialism (4)

2009-01-06 Thread Charles Brown
Speculation as speculative capital, denotes something different than speculation - risk taking, on the part of finance capital during the era of Lenin. Speculative capital as a concept means investment and risk taking on the basis of financial institutions more than less detached from

[Marxism-Thaxis] Does industrial capital exist ?

2009-01-06 Thread Charles Brown
WL: I am not aware of one single economist of note that speaks of an industrial sector of capital. Web Results 1 - 10 of about 5,210,000 for Industrial sector of capital. (0.23 seconds) Search ResultsIndustrial Sector Outlook - Capital Spending Trends (2 of 2 ...Full Study Keywords:

[Marxism-Thaxis] Lenin philosophy blog

2009-01-06 Thread Charles Brown
And see: http://www.marxists.org/archive/elkonin/works/1971/stages.htm Also important to note that Piaget, in attempting to work out a description of the 'sciences of man', integrates Marxism into his system.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Super Capitalism, Super Imperialism and Monetary Imperialism

2009-01-06 Thread Doug Henwood
On Jan 6, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Charles Brown wrote: CeJ jannuzi Poor CB,he can't even tell when I agree with him. Dude, if you would stop soaking your ass in places like A-hole list, Marxmal and Liberal Bored Observer, maybe we could communicate occasionally. CJ ^ CB: As a linguist

[Marxism-Thaxis] Industrial organization of production

2009-01-06 Thread Charles Brown
CB: Sure. The goal is a class_less_ society. The working class is an exploited/oppressed class. The aim in no exploiting or exploited classes. But in the transitional stage, the working class is the ruling class. That's before the total abolition of classes. ^^ and that the

[Marxism-Thaxis] Blacks versus the New Deal

2009-01-06 Thread Charles Brown
Charles, I don't know whether the KKK lynched anybody in 1916, but not only wasn't that the question, but an accurate answer to it doesn't enter into what we were discussing...which was Harry Truman's 1922 membership in the KKK. In that context, the point of your eagerness to begin using the

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Evidence please. Productive . Industrial capital U have the

2009-01-06 Thread CeJ
The ideas that nothing has changed since Lenin is just intellectual laziness and a refusal to admit that things change at best and dogmatism at worse. GMAC not GM is the master of GM. GMAC is GM. . Dude, its all finance capital. I'm not sure I'm following your arguments. One, who here has said

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Super Capitalism, Super Imperialism and Monetary Imperialism

2009-01-06 Thread CeJ
What a dazzling use of language from our linguist! Missed it first time around, because CeJ goes straight to /dev/null. Hey since irony is out this year (leftists have a world to save), I'll take that as a compliment, even from someone like Duff Henwood. Thanks Duff, and Happy New Year to you.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Super Capitalism, Super Imperialism and Monetary Imperialism

2009-01-06 Thread CeJ
CB: As a linguist , you know it takes two to communicate (smile) Extended quotes aren't communication if no one reads them, and they seem to bring in a third party, don't they? CJ ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Lenin philosophy blog

2009-01-06 Thread CeJ
CB: What are some of the specifics of that integration ? That's a good question. I'll get back to you on that. I have a work on the philosophy of 'human' sciences by Piaget (he was commissioned to write it a few years before Lyotard was commissioned to tell us about the post-modern episteme) but

[Marxism-Thaxis] Piaget and Marx (Stems from Re: Lenin philosophy blog)

2009-01-06 Thread CeJ
CB: What are some of the specifics of that integration ? First, a correction. I must have imagined any Piaget-Vygotsky correspondence. Piaget only found out about Vygotsky's work after his death, through contact with people who studied under Vygotsky. Second, we have discussed this before (or at

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Evidence please. Productive . Industrial capital U have...

2009-01-06 Thread Waistline2
Seems to me you do in fact get the distinction between productive capital and speculative capital. A good Ponzi scheme is not back until it collapses. Profits to be made from that side of the business constituting productive capital has never been bad business. On the other hand this