[MeeGo-dev] availability of meego notification api?

2011-05-31 Thread Chen, Miaobo
Hi all, I saw previously MTF has a notification framework as listed on http://apidocs.meego.com/1.0/mtf/notifications.html. Do we have similar feature / APIs available now in QTMobility / QML which applications may use to notify user about their status update on status bar (or other suitable pla

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Sivan Greenberg
[0]: http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sessions/bof-quality-and-compliance-specification On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Sivan Greenberg wrote: > So, we've actually discussed this sort of stuff during my Quality and the > Compliance spec BOF[0], I also think that HTML5 and PySide would be the way

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Sivan Greenberg
So, we've actually discussed this sort of stuff during my Quality and the Compliance spec BOF[0], I also think that HTML5 and PySide would be the way to go about this, but we need to get PySide to be an official part of MeeGO core. Maybe we can start pitching this to the TSG? I think given it is su

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Pei Lin
2011/6/1 Akkana Peck : > Wichmann, Mats D writes: >> switch to html5 :) > > I know you used a smiley, but: > > Is there a way to package an html+javascript app on meego so > that it has a desktop icon and shows up in the apps menu without > needing an architecture-specific C++ Qt wrapper? Also with

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Akkana Peck
Wichmann, Mats D writes: > switch to html5 :) I know you used a smiley, but: Is there a way to package an html+javascript app on meego so that it has a desktop icon and shows up in the apps menu without needing an architecture-specific C++ Qt wrapper? Also without requiring packages like qml-view

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Michał Sawicz
Dnia 2011-05-31, wto o godzinie 13:50 -0700, Ware, Ryan R pisze: > Yes, but I'd be concerned that this would blow up the image size even > more that what it is currently. I don't think it would have to be part of the image, as long as the packages would be available for download from the main rep

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Ware, Ryan R
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Michał Sawicz wrote: > Dnia 2011-05-31, wto o godzinie 11:34 +0100, David Greaves pisze: > > We have python. > > > > QML can access python objects directly if I understood Thomas Perl's > > excellent talk. > > Yes, PySide would definitely be one way. But, as you

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Fwd: Fan control on ExoPC

2011-05-31 Thread Andrew Olmsted
Conny, On the back of your device there is a support URL. At that URL there are detailed instructions of what to do if there is a hardware issue. I have sent an email with this information to the address specified and am waiting to hear back. Thanks, Andrew On 11-05-31 04:43 PM, Cornelius

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Fwd: Fan control on ExoPC

2011-05-31 Thread Cornelius Hald
Thanks all for the feedback. If you know who to contact, please ping me. Cheers, Conny On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 16:29 -0400, Andrew Olmsted wrote: > ExoPC confirmed that there is no BIOS update that would help with this > problem and the only thing to do would be get the hardware replaced. > > I w

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread David Greaves
On 31/05/11 20:32, Michał Sawicz wrote: Dnia 2011-05-31, wto o godzinie 11:34 +0100, David Greaves pisze: We have python. QML can access python objects directly if I understood Thomas Perl's excellent talk. Yes, PySide would definitely be one way. But, as you can probably remember from Q&A on

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Fwd: Fan control on ExoPC

2011-05-31 Thread Andrew Olmsted
ExoPC confirmed that there is no BIOS update that would help with this problem and the only thing to do would be get the hardware replaced. I would think the proper way to do this for developer units would be through Intel, so I will try to find the right person to contact. Perhaps the person

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-handset] Dialer Project meeting - Minutes for Tuesday 5/31

2011-05-31 Thread Shane Bryan
On Tue, 31 May 2011 09:08:41 -0700 Shane Bryan wrote: > > #meego-meeting: MeeGo Dialer Project meeting > > > > Meeting started by sabotage at 15:03:09 UTC. > > Online minutes: > http://irclogs.meego.com/m

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Michał Sawicz
Dnia 2011-05-31, wto o godzinie 09:41 -0700, Arjan van de Ven pisze: > actually .. the .repo file is what you offer in that case. The openSUSE-devised YMP aka OneClickInstall [1,2] could be a base when multiple repositories (e.g. for python packages or other dependencies) are required. TBH when on

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Michał Sawicz
Dnia 2011-05-31, wto o godzinie 11:34 +0100, David Greaves pisze: > We have python. > > QML can access python objects directly if I understood Thomas Perl's > excellent talk. Yes, PySide would definitely be one way. But, as you can probably remember from Q&A on this session, there's still the pr

Re: [MeeGo-dev] about uxlaunch support a command line option with enable/disable xsession-errors feature

2011-05-31 Thread Auke Kok
On 05/31/11 00:59, steven wrote: On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 00:50 -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 5:55 PM, steven wrote: > > 400M > > yikes > > sounds like some program is hitting a lot of really bad debug messages...

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Wichmann, Mats D
meego-dev-boun...@meego.com wrote: > On 5/31/2011 9:40 AM, Tomasz Sterna wrote: >> You are missing the original question: "How to give developpers a way >> to create one-size-fits-all package?" switch to html5 :) ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@me

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 31 May 2011 18:44:38 +0200 Carsten Munk wrote: > 2011/5/31 Arjan van de Ven : > >> ***This is possible to do even now by abusing noarch.*** > >> ***Just create a noarch package with binaries for all > >> architectures inside and ln/copy binaries for current arch to > >> correct places in

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/31/2011 9:40 AM, Tomasz Sterna wrote: On wto 31 maj 2011 18:14:56 CEST, Arjan van de Ven mailto:ar...@linux.intel.com>> wrote: > just we have a way of distributing binaries that's slightly more > finegrained than the android model and our output of the build > ends up nicely split up, sav

Re: [MeeGo-dev] UNSUBSCRIBE AW: Who app/service has used alarmd already?

2011-05-31 Thread Andre Klapper
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 18:23 +0200, Lissel-Erhard, Isabelle wrote: > Could you please take me off all MeeGo lists? You have to do that yourself. Just follow the link at the bottom of every email: > http://lists.meego.com/listinfo/meego-dev andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster) http://www.o

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Carsten Munk
2011/5/31 Arjan van de Ven : > On 5/31/2011 9:12 AM, Tomasz Sterna wrote: >> >> On wto 31 maj 2011 11:41:17 CEST, Sander van Grieken >> mailto:san...@outrightsolutions.nl>> wrote: >> > What about a multi-arch RPM approach, where binaries for multiple >> > architectures are contained in a single RPM

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Tomasz Sterna
On wto 31 maj 2011 18:14:56 CEST, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > just we have a way of distributing binaries that's slightly more > finegrained than the android model and our output of the build > ends up nicely split up, saving download time as well as disk space. You are missing the original quest

[MeeGo-dev] UNSUBSCRIBE AW: Who app/service has used alarmd already?

2011-05-31 Thread Lissel-Erhard, Isabelle
Could you please take me off all MeeGo lists? Thanks a lot. Best Isabelle Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Yours sincerely Isabelle Lissel-Erhard Senior Account Manager Maisberger - Gesellschaft für strategi

[MeeGo-dev] Additional changes to RPM and MeeGo packages

2011-05-31 Thread Anas Nashif
Hi, Following a request from Carsten, we started splitting debug sources from debuginfo packages, which enhances the developer experience. Now debuginfo packages only have the symbols, when needed, debug sources can be downloaded separately. To further enhance the developer experience the follow

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 5/31/2011 9:12 AM, Tomasz Sterna wrote: On wto 31 maj 2011 11:41:17 CEST, Sander van Grieken mailto:san...@outrightsolutions.nl>> wrote: > What about a multi-arch RPM approach, where binaries for multiple > architectures are contained in a single RPM, but where only the arch > specific vari

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:46:53 am Drucker, Benjamin T wrote: > If there are arch-dependent bin components (as apposed to > the intermediate language approach), then it would make > more sense to have the noarch qml part require a > capability provided by a bunch of arch rpms. [Sent from > my ph

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [Meego-handset] Dialer Project meeting - Minutes for Tuesday 5/31

2011-05-31 Thread Shane Bryan
#meego-meeting: MeeGo Dialer Project meeting Meeting started by sabotage at 15:03:09 UTC. Online minutes: http://irclogs.meego.com/meetbot/meego-meeting/2011/meego-meeting.2011-05-31-15.03.html Full IRC mee

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Tomasz Sterna
On wto 31 maj 2011 11:41:17 CEST, Sander van Grieken wrote: > What about a multi-arch RPM approach, where binaries for multiple > architectures are contained in a single RPM, but where only the arch > specific variant is installed? This is possible to do even now by abusing noarch. Just create a

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Meego Handset Profile

2011-05-31 Thread martin brook
While it does indeed answer the question it raises the obvious one of what the handset profile is meant to look like? Could those in the know enlighten the rest of us? Thanks Vgrade On May 31, 2011 2:09 PM, "Wichmann, Mats D" wrote: > > > > Hi Guys, > > Is this page still current? > > http://wi

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Drucker, Benjamin T
A multi-arch rpm will continue to grow in size for each supported platform. Youy'll get the overhead of download this whoile thing to upgrade your device. Also you'll need to upgrade if some other arch changes in which you have no interest. If there are arch-dependent bin components (as appos

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who app/service has used alarmd already?

2011-05-31 Thread Rusty Lynch
On 05/31/2011 01:57 AM, Chang, Ziv wrote: Hi, The meego-ux-daemon will listen the "Alarm" signal from D-Bus (path=/com/meego/Alarm, interface=com.meego.Alarm, signal=Alarm). Then meego-ux-dameon may play the appropriate audio by soundUri. I would like to know who app/service has used alarmd al

[MeeGo-dev] Dialer Project meeting - Agenda for Tuesday 5/31

2011-05-31 Thread Shane Bryan
Agenda for the Dialer Project meeting - Tuesday, May 31st, 2011 * General information/business (Shane) - MeeGo Conference wrap-up/summary - TODO list cleanup (based on Dialer presentation) * Bug, patch and merge-request status (Shane) Bugs: - How to disposition MTF vs. QML bugs? Shoul

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Meego Handset Profile

2011-05-31 Thread Wichmann, Mats D
Hi Guys, Is this page still current? http://wiki.meego.com/Quality/Compliance/HandsetProfile I hear there are changes afoot in the handset UX. It hasn't really received any attention from anyone "in the know", if that helps answer the currency question. ___

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Carsten Munk
2011/5/31 Tomasz Sterna : > Dnia 2011-05-31, wto o godzinie 11:25 +0200, Carsten Munk pisze: >> in MeeGo currently as we have to write C++ for our native Qt >> Quick extensions > > How does Android solve building and distributing NDK extensions? Good point, as I can see, they bundle them into .apk

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Tomasz Sterna
Dnia 2011-05-31, wto o godzinie 11:25 +0200, Carsten Munk pisze: > in MeeGo currently as we have to write C++ for our native Qt > Quick extensions How does Android solve building and distributing NDK extensions? ___ MeeGo-dev mailing list MeeGo-dev@mee

Re: [MeeGo-dev] about uxlaunch support a command line option with enable/disable xsession-errors feature

2011-05-31 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Tuesday, 31 de May de 2011 15:59:40 steven wrote: > > and, please, tell us which package is writing 400mb of output so we > > can address the issue with the person who wrote the package? > > the package is third-party package, it doesn't belong to meego package > list. Well, then you know who

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread David Greaves
On 31/05/11 10:25, Carsten Munk wrote: Yes, indeed - I've been fed the usual JVM and JIT knowledge through my university education like many others, but this isn't the approach taken in MeeGo currently as we have to write C++ for our native Qt Quick extensions and we don't have a JVM on each devi

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Feng, Haitao
I also think so. Recently I have made llvmpipe working inside chroot+Xephyr, the graphics performance is very good. Currently llvm is not in the MeeGo distro, what is the process to get it inside MeeGo? Thanks -Haitao -Original Message- From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [mailto:meego-d

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Sander van Grieken
What about a multi-arch RPM approach, where binaries for multiple architectures are contained in a single RPM, but where only the arch specific variant is installed? This would avoid the size increase of a multi-arch ELF approach, and avoid the (possible) performance loss and (possible) executi

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Carsten Munk
Yes, indeed - I've been fed the usual JVM and JIT knowledge through my university education like many others, but this isn't the approach taken in MeeGo currently as we have to write C++ for our native Qt Quick extensions and we don't have a JVM on each device. I feel that LLVM could give some goo

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Zhang, Zheng
Android has done most of such jobs via JVM. -Original Message- From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [mailto:meego-dev-boun...@meego.com] On Behalf Of Carsten Munk Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 2:11 PM To: meego-dev Subject: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to

[MeeGo-dev] Who app/service has used alarmd already?

2011-05-31 Thread Chang, Ziv
Hi, The meego-ux-daemon will listen the "Alarm" signal from D-Bus (path=/com/meego/Alarm, interface=com.meego.Alarm, signal=Alarm). Then meego-ux-dameon may play the appropriate audio by soundUri. I would like to know who app/service has used alarmd already? For which purpose? So I can classify

[MeeGo-dev] Fwd: Fan control on ExoPC

2011-05-31 Thread Erik Stein
Hi Cornelius -- this seems to be a hardware issue, I've got my ExoPC exchanged in San Francisco thanks to the very kind people from Intel. See https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17197 Best -- eriik Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: > Von: Cornelius Hald > Datum: 29. Mai 2011 15:10:23

Re: [MeeGo-dev] VKB not launching in MeeGo 1.2 SDK netbook QEMU

2011-05-31 Thread Florent Viard
Hi, It also took me a lot of time to find why the VKD didn't work (with an ideapad s10-3t). First, do the things that you can find on internet: $ sudo -s $ zypper install meegotouch-inputmethodbridges meegotouch-inputmethodkeyboard Then edit: /etc/xdg/autostart/meego-im-uiserver.desktop : remove

Re: [MeeGo-dev] about uxlaunch support a command line option with enable/disable xsession-errors feature

2011-05-31 Thread steven
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 00:50 -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: > > > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 5:55 PM, steven wrote: > On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 16:58 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > On 5/30/2011 1:23 AM, steven wrote: > > > On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 10:15 +0200, Andre Klapper wrot

Re: [MeeGo-dev] about uxlaunch support a command line option with enable/disable xsession-errors feature

2011-05-31 Thread Kok, Auke-jan H
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 5:55 PM, steven wrote: > On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 16:58 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > On 5/30/2011 1:23 AM, steven wrote: > > > On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 10:15 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > > >> On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 16:05 +0800, steven wrote: > > >>> currently when uxlaunch

Re: [MeeGo-dev] How to sync with the network time server in meego?

2011-05-31 Thread Kok, Auke-jan H
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:00 PM, steven wrote: > On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 16:59 -0700, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > On 5/30/2011 5:08 AM, steven wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > as for NTP, I remember that timed middleware also support NTP, and > > this > > > middleware is included in meego compliance gr

[MeeGo-dev] MeeGo app model in 2012: Rethinking the MeeGo app model to be more platform agnostic

2011-05-31 Thread Carsten Munk
Hi, One of the disadvantages of MeeGo is that unlike Android and other OS'es, we don't provide a way for developers to provide one MeeGo compliant RPM for typical MeeGo applications+extensions that will run on all MeeGo devices, no matter if it is IA, ARM, MIPS. I'd like to spark a technical (+ co