Re: [MeeGo-dev] Specification for OBS light project concept

2011-07-01 Thread Ramez Hanna
On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 13:31 +0100, ext Robin Burchell wrote: Hi, On 30/06/11 13:09, Ramez Hanna wrote: I also got similar (if not exactly) requirements from some of our internal developers, I have drafted a wiki page describing the reasons we think we need a different tool than just

[MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Éric Seigne
Hello all, i'm working on tablet edition. I've not found a file manager or any use of (for example) usb keys ... is there something planned about that ? if not, i'm okay to develop it. Éric -- -- AbulEdu -- NouvaLinux -- Centre de Formation -- Éric Seigne - Directeur

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Martyn Russell
On 01/07/11 10:45, Éric Seigne wrote: Hello all, Hello, i'm working on tablet edition. I've not found a file manager or any use of (for example) usb keys ... is there something planned about that ? if not, i'm okay to develop it. What do you plan to use the file manager for? Ideally, you

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
On Friday 01 Jul 2011 11:36:58 Martyn Russell wrote: On 01/07/11 10:45, Éric Seigne wrote: Hello all, Hello, i'm working on tablet edition. I've not found a file manager or any use of (for example) usb keys ... is there something planned about that ? if not, i'm okay to develop

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Éric Seigne
Le 01/07/2011 13:08, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen a écrit : What do you plan to use the file manager for? Ideally, you shouldn't need a file manager at all on the platform, applications should manage the files you use properly for you. i'm guessing he wants a file manager for the same reason

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen
On Friday 01 Jul 2011 11:36:58 Martyn Russell wrote: On 01/07/11 10:45, Éric Seigne wrote: Hello all, Hello, i'm working on tablet edition. I've not found a file manager or any use of (for example) usb keys ... is there something planned about that ? if not, i'm okay to develop

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Martyn Russell
On 01/07/11 13:44, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: On Friday 01 Jul 2011 11:36:58 Martyn Russell wrote: On 01/07/11 10:45, Éric Seigne wrote: Hello all, Hello, i'm working on tablet edition. I've not found a file manager or any use of (for example) usb keys ... is there something planned

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Éric Seigne
Le 01/07/2011 15:18, Martyn Russell a écrit : On 01/07/11 13:31, Éric Seigne wrote: Le 01/07/2011 13:08, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen a écrit : What do you plan to use the file manager for? Ideally, you shouldn't need a file manager at all on the platform, applications should manage the files

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Martyn Russell
On 01/07/11 13:31, Éric Seigne wrote: Le 01/07/2011 13:08, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen a écrit : What do you plan to use the file manager for? Ideally, you shouldn't need a file manager at all on the platform, applications should manage the files you use properly for you. i'm guessing he

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 14:16:39 +0100 Martyn Russell mar...@lanedo.com wrote: On 01/07/11 13:44, Dan Leinir Turthra Jensen wrote: On Friday 01 Jul 2011 11:36:58 Martyn Russell wrote: On 01/07/11 10:45, Éric Seigne wrote: Hello all, Hello, i'm working on tablet edition. I've not found

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Martyn Russell
On 01/07/11 14:36, Éric Seigne wrote: Le 01/07/2011 15:18, Martyn Russell a écrit : Hey, i'm sorry, but do you have a tablet ? if you have it, could you plug a key into usb ? then does your key have only pictures ? or only pdf ? or only odt ? ... all of my keys have a tons of different

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo tablet version has no support to Dell Duo touchscreen

2011-07-01 Thread Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata
The patch worked! should i file a bug to add this on the MeeGo kernel? Thanks On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Zhang, Austin austin.zh...@intel.com wrote: Maybe i just need to provide the ids to the upstream ... I thought gabriel had just done that as his email mentioned. For meego, if your

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Éric Seigne
Le 01/07/2011 16:11, Martyn Russell a écrit : When you connect a USB key you usually want to either copy data locally or use data from USB key. In the former, I personally would prefer the device to sync my data for me and in the later, use the data on the USB key from applications. and an

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Andy Ross
On 07/01/2011 08:33 AM, Éric Seigne wrote: so meego don't need a file manager for tablet, thanks a lot, i don't waste my time. At the risk of adding more paint to the bikeshed: I think a better answer is that there are no plans to add a file manager as a core component. But a QML

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Randall Arnold
From: Éric Seigne eric.sei...@ryxeo.com To: meego-dev@meego.com Sent: Friday, July 1, 2011 10:33 AM Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition Le 01/07/2011 16:11, Martyn Russell a écrit : When you connect a USB key you usually want to either copy

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 09:14:17 -0700 Andy Ross a...@plausible.org wrote: On 07/01/2011 08:33 AM, Éric Seigne wrote: so meego don't need a file manager for tablet, thanks a lot, i don't waste my time. At the risk of adding more paint to the bikeshed: I think a better answer is that there

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Specification for OBS light project concept

2011-07-01 Thread Ware, Ryan R
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:59 AM, Ramez Hanna ramez.ha...@nokia.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 11:29 -0700, ext Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:09 AM, Ramez Hanna ramez.ha...@nokia.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-06-14 at 10:52 +0200, ext Dominig ar Foll wrote: Hello, those who

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 7/1/2011 9:29 AM, Bernd Stramm wrote: On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 09:14:17 -0700 Andy Rossa...@plausible.org wrote: On 07/01/2011 08:33 AM, Éric Seigne wrote: so meego don't need a file manager for tablet, thanks a lot, i don't waste my time. At the risk of adding more paint to the bikeshed: I

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Specification for OBS light project concept

2011-07-01 Thread Shane Bryan
On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 09:47:46AM -0700, Ware, Ryan R wrote: On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:59 AM, Ramez Hanna ramez.ha...@nokia.com wrote: On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 11:29 -0700, ext Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: snip can you state *why*, I asked before but I never got a reply. Please, take some time to

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Éric Seigne
Le 01/07/2011 18:53, Arjan van de Ven a écrit : On 7/1/2011 9:29 AM, Bernd Stramm wrote: On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 09:14:17 -0700 Andy Rossa...@plausible.org wrote: On 07/01/2011 08:33 AM, Éric Seigne wrote: so meego don't need a file manager for tablet, thanks a lot, i don't waste my time. At

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Specification for OBS light project concept

2011-07-01 Thread Andy Ross
On 07/01/2011 10:59 AM, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: I think Ryan is spot on. Until you get out of the hack-n-slash phase, your main development model should just be git, and ignore downstream. Yeah, but I'm with Shane on this. There's a big gap right now between I have a sandbox build with a fix

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Specification for OBS light project concept

2011-07-01 Thread Kok, Auke-jan H
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Andy Ross a...@plausible.org wrote: On 07/01/2011 10:59 AM, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote: I think Ryan is spot on. Until you get out of the hack-n-slash phase, your main development model should just be git, and ignore downstream. Yeah, but I'm with Shane on this.  

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Friday, July 01, 2011 09:11:29 am Martyn Russell wrote: copy data locally or use data from USB key. In the former, I personally would prefer the device to sync my data for me and in the later, use the data on the USB key from applications. Personally... I have never, ever, EVER encountered

Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo tablet version has no support to Dell Duo touchscreen

2011-07-01 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Friday, July 01, 2011 09:50:58 am Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata wrote: The patch worked! should i file a bug to add this on the MeeGo kernel? I have submitted patch to the linux-input ML (a.k.a. upstream).[1] Note that it's a little different (based on input from ENAC). I'm not

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield gabrb...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, July 01, 2011 09:11:29 am Martyn Russell wrote: copy data locally or use data from USB key. In the former, I personally would prefer the device to sync my data for me and in the later, use the data on

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Richard Dale
On Friday, July 01, 2011 04:33:45 PM Éric Seigne wrote: Le 01/07/2011 16:11, Martyn Russell a écrit : When you connect a USB key you usually want to either copy data locally or use data from USB key. In the former, I personally would prefer the device to sync my data for me and in the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Richard Dale
On Friday, July 01, 2011 04:33:45 PM Éric Seigne wrote: Le 01/07/2011 16:11, Martyn Russell a écrit : When you connect a USB key you usually want to either copy data locally or use data from USB key. In the former, I personally would prefer the device to sync my data for me and in the

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Bogdan Cristea
On Friday 01 July 2011 22:30:01 Richard Dale wrote: Certainly forcing normal users to interact with a heirarchical file system like Linux via file managers has been a proven failure, although 'power users' like the people on this list have no trouble using file managers. But I don't think we

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Randall Arnold
From: Richard Dale richard.d...@telefonica.net To: meego-dev@meego.com Sent: Friday, July 1, 2011 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition On Friday, July 01, 2011 04:33:45 PM Éric Seigne wrote: Le 01/07/2011 16:11, Martyn Russell a

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Florent Viard
Hi, Stop considering the regular user as a stupid guy/girl that needs to have everything reduced to only one button. Most of the users never had problem to understand and use file managers as soon as they are used to. (Otherwise, windows wouldn't have been used by so much users until today) Stop

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata
Hello Florent To come back at the subject of the need of a file browser, lets suppose that you had a trip in a foreign country with friends and that now you want to show them all that you have from the trip. Will you prefer to have one folder with all the videos, photos, pdf scan of

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Florent Viard
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:01 AM, Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata leonar...@syst.com.br wrote: Hello Florent To come back at the subject of the need of a file browser, lets suppose that you had a trip in a foreign country with friends and that now you want to show them all that you have from

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Richard Dale
On Friday, July 01, 2011 09:52:02 PM you wrote: From: Richard Dale richard.d...@telefonica.net To: meego-dev@meego.com Sent: Friday, July 1, 2011 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition On Friday, July 01, 2011 04:33:45 PM Éric

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata
I think that would be an example of what Steve Jobs would call 'lack of focus'. The failure to say 'no' when it makes sense. I also think the fact that iOS have just dropped letting the users see the file system without coming up with a compelling alternative like KDE Nepomuk Activities or

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Randall Arnold
- Original Message - From: Richard Dale richard.d...@telefonica.net To: meego-dev@meego.com Cc: Sent: Friday, July 1, 2011 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition On Friday, July 01, 2011 09:52:02 PM you wrote:

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata
My CEO here always ask me, ok, if i plug a pen-drive on MeeGo tablet what happend? -- Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata International Syst S/A Metasys Tecnologia Software Engineer Metasys MeeGo Team leonar...@metasys.com.br +55-31-3503-9040 May the force be with you, always Nerd Pride... eu

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Arjan van de Ven
On 7/1/2011 3:43 PM, Florent Viard wrote: Hi, Stop considering the regular user as a stupid guy/girl that needs to have everything reduced to only one button. Most of the users never had problem to understand and use file managers as soon as they are used to. (Otherwise, windows wouldn't have

Re: [MeeGo-dev] File manager for Tablet Edition

2011-07-01 Thread Randall Arnold
- Original Message - From: Arjan van de Ven ar...@linux.intel.com AMEN. I have been complaining about this for a while, and am this close to making a tshirt, or even a big banner with I AM A USER TOO on it. An open source project CANNOT ignore open source