Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo as a vehicle for Qt-based products?

2011-09-30 Thread Luis Araujo
On 09/29/2011 09:33 AM, Robin Burchell wrote: So Intel has upped and gone Tizen. What I wonder is: does this have to actually spell the end of MeeGo? Definitely not. MeeGo has been intended as an open source project since the very beginning, and that means: let's keep the ball rolling. In

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-09-30 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, On 09/29/2011 08:00 PM, Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata wrote: So, Intel decided to left MeeGo, it's clear that their effort on the platform has gone. We need to organize the community to keep MeeGo development. Why? (Honestly, why *must* we organise the community?) I think that many

[MeeGo-dev] Idea for Tizen - MeeGo

2011-09-30 Thread micu
Hi, now that intel goes Tizen (and perhaps merges some stuff of MeeGo into it), what should be the scope of the MeeGo project? Some ideas that just came to my mind: 1. Why not make the main goal of the MeeGo project providing Qt integration and Qt-based UXes for Tizen? 2.

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-09-30 Thread Dayo
On 09/30/2011 11:23 AM, Dave Neary wrote: Hi, On 09/29/2011 08:00 PM, Leonardo Luiz Padovani da Mata wrote: So, Intel decided to left MeeGo, it's clear that their effort on the platform has gone. We need to organize the community to keep MeeGo development. Why? (Honestly, why *must* we

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-09-30 Thread Andre Klapper
On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 12:22 +0100, Dayo wrote: If there are - as you say - no differences between MeeGo and Tizen Dave did not state that. andre -- Andre Klapper (maemo.org bugmaster | MeeGo QA) http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ | http://www.openismus.com

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-09-30 Thread Dayo
On 09/30/2011 12:28 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 12:22 +0100, Dayo wrote: If there are - as you say - no differences between MeeGo and Tizen Dave did not state that. andre He certainly implied it as an encouragement to others to leave MeeGo and join Tizen. Not sure why you

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-09-30 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, On 09/30/2011 01:35 PM, Dayo wrote: On 09/30/2011 12:28 PM, Andre Klapper wrote: On Fri, 2011-09-30 at 12:22 +0100, Dayo wrote: If there are - as you say - no differences between MeeGo and Tizen Dave did not state that. He certainly implied it as an encouragement to others to leave

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-09-30 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Friday, 30 de September de 2011 14:25:56 Dave Neary wrote: Another added advantage: MeeGo 1.3 was, I hear, below quality and running late. By moving to an SLP based platform, MeeGo gets an existing platform that's actually shipping in devices and has been proven to work. Of course, this

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-09-30 Thread Erik Stein
There seems to be a confusion about who feels bad of the recent developments. I guess there a two sorts of people emotionally attached to the meego project, on the one side the system and component hackers, on the other side the application developers (and not only 3rd party, also core

[MeeGo-dev] Where's the evidence that Tizen will contain *any* MeeGo code?

2011-09-30 Thread Alison Chaiken
Consider again http://limofoundation.org/en/Press-Releases/limo-foundation-and-linux-foundation-announce-new-open-source-software-platform.html with its lack of even one mention of MeeGo. One conclusion consistent with known facts is ***Intel is abandoning MeeGo for LiMo just as Nokia

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Where's the evidence that Tizen will contain *any* MeeGo code?

2011-09-30 Thread Robin Burchell
Hi Alison, On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Alison Chaiken alchai...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't seen any statement from anyone who *knows* what's going on to indicate that Tizen will actually incorporate even one line of MeeGo code. From discussions on IRC over the past few days, we do know

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Where's the evidence that Tizen will contain *any* MeeGo code?

2011-09-30 Thread Jon Nordby
On 09/30/11 18:24, Alison Chaiken wrote: Consider again http://limofoundation.org/en/Press-Releases/limo-foundation-and-linux-foundation-announce-new-open-source-software-platform.html with its lack of even one mention of MeeGo. One conclusion consistent with known facts is ***Intel is

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Where's the evidence that Tizen will contain *any* MeeGo code?

2011-09-30 Thread Thiago Macieira
On Friday, 30 de September de 2011 09:24:04 Alison Chaiken wrote: LiFo owns MeeGo and won't let us the name, to be sure, but we can call it OpenMobMo or OpenMaeLin if you like.(That joke is bound to have turned someone's stomach.) Has anyone asked the LF if we can continue the project,

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-09-30 Thread quim.gil
Dave wrote: and at best an improvement (HTML5 vs QML). Fwiw QML doesn't stop any HTML5 improvement. In fact it plays perfectly well with HTML Javascript next to its neighbor QtWebKit, and bridges web development with native development (if you need it) down to core C/C++. If you need

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Where's the evidence that Tizen will contain *any* MeeGo code?

2011-09-30 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 13:24, Alison Chaiken alchai...@gmail.com wrote:   With Intel's possible complete departure, MeeGo development on Atom may completely stop Not if MeeGo devs partner with hardware makers currently shipping MeeGo devices... namely, Asus (X101) and WeTab. FC

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-09-30 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 14:40, quim@nokia.com wrote: The strategic reasoning behind HTML5 is understandable: it is a general trend. And I personally think that trend sucks. It means throwing away all existing apps and reconverting them. Why people would blindly follow such trends when it

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-09-30 Thread quim.gil
Fernando wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 14:40, quim@nokia.com wrote: The strategic reasoning behind HTML5 is understandable: it is a general trend. And I personally think that trend sucks. It means throwing away all existing apps and reconverting them. The trend of using web

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-09-30 Thread Tethys .
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 6:59 PM, quim@nokia.com wrote: The trend of using web technologies to cover the apps space is clear and pushed by many factors e.g. something simple to develop simple features and compatibility across the jungle of platforms. I actually agree with it. To an

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-09-30 Thread somnath banik
Does any one whether Tizen will support Qt as like in MeeGo Sent from my Nokia phone -Original Message- From: quim@nokia.com Sent: 9/30/2011 5:59:15 PM To: fcas...@gmail.com Cc: meego-dev@meego.com Subject: Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo? Fernando wrote: On Fri, Sep

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-09-30 Thread Kirill Krinkin
Hello, I didn't get Intel's position about Qt. It won't be supported or what? I cannot see another good technology for interface building. More over Qt is moving towards HTML5 and so on. Kirill On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Tethys . tet...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 6:59 PM,  

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-09-30 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 14:59, quim@nokia.com wrote: Apart from few and very bold exceptions, even the platforms that started putting the bets on web ended up opening the door for native, and some of them even to very native. Surely the Tizen architects know this and I'm confident (but

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-09-30 Thread Wichmann, Mats D
On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Tethys . tet...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 6:59 PM, quim@nokia.com wrote: The trend of using web technologies to cover the apps space is clear and pushed by many factors e.g. something simple to develop simple features and compatibility

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Where's the evidence that Tizen will contain *any* MeeGo code?

2011-09-30 Thread Andrew Savory
Hi, A few clarifications... On 30 September 2011 17:24, Alison Chaiken alchai...@gmail.com wrote: ***Intel is abandoning MeeGo for LiMo just as Nokia abandoned MeeGo for Window Phone 7.*** Ignore the PR. Look at Jim's statement (

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Who will keep pushing MeeGo?

2011-09-30 Thread Andrew Savory
Hi, On 30 September 2011 18:59, quim@nokia.com wrote: The trend of using web technologies to cover the apps space is clear and pushed by many factors e.g. something simple to develop simple features and compatibility across the jungle of platforms. I actually agree with it. ... but you