Re: [MeeGo-dev] MeeGo Reconstructed - a plan of action and direction for MeeGo

2011-10-04 Thread harri.hakulinen
Carsten, David and Robin, Thank you very much for this proposal and work already done and started. This single post alone convinces me that we have not wasted any work on MeeGo (ce), and that it in fact will have bright future ahead, no matter of the name of the project , the products based on

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Nokia N900 hardware adaptation team meeting minutes 13/01/2011

2011-01-14 Thread harri.hakulinen
Moro, In fact we have someone already looking into it ;) Tommi Keisala is working on it now, but naturally it will Take couple of days before we have anything concrete. But I think that Juha can work based on Gypsy or whatever is The MeeGo API atm. Our work will be below that anyway. Br, //

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Academic Survey for MeeGo Community Contributors

2010-11-29 Thread harri.hakulinen
Hello all, [Disclaimer: I don't know Jarkko Moilanen or hardly anyone from uta.fi, but I do know many people from tut.fi ] >From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [meego-dev-boun...@meego.com] on behalf of >ext Julien Fourgeaud [jul...@lecatalyst.com] >Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 12:47 AM > >On

Re: [MeeGo-dev] glxgears performance

2010-10-26 Thread harri.hakulinen
I have understood that glxgears is opengl program, NOT opengles. Arjan, are we supposed to have opengl as part of ivi spec ? Br, //Harri From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [meego-dev-boun...@meego.com] on behalf of ext Jalics, Laci [laci.jal...@delphi.co

Re: [MeeGo-dev] ARMv7 hardfp port of MeeGo discussion

2010-10-26 Thread harri.hakulinen
>>From: Arjan van de Ven [ar...@linux.intel.com] >>Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 10:24 PM >On 10/26/2010 12:18 PM, Quim Gil wrote: > On Mon, 2010-10-25 at 23:52 +0200, ext Thiago Macieira wrote: >> This is why I was wondering why we're not using hardfp *now* for 1.1.0. >> >> We shouldn't be brea

Re: [MeeGo-dev] ARMv7 hardfp port of MeeGo discussion (Was: Re: new draft of MeeGo compliance specification)

2010-10-26 Thread harri.hakulinen
>From: Thiago Macieira [thi...@kde.org] >Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:52 AM > >On Monday, 25 de October de 2010 17:35:48 Arjan van de Ven wrote: >> this is me, one of the MeeGo architects, opposing breaking the MeeGo API >> this lightly. >> MeeGo's value proposition is about giving a consist

Re: [MeeGo-dev] ARMv7 hardfp port of MeeGo discussion (Was: Re: new draft of MeeGo compliance specification)

2010-10-25 Thread harri.hakulinen
> >From: Arjan van de Ven [ar...@linux.intel.com] >Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 4:59 PM > >On 10/25/2010 4:06 AM, jarmo.k...@nokia.com wrote: >> Hi, >> We have discussed about hardfp (and other) support in the toolchain team. >>Current assumption is that h

Re: [MeeGo-dev] new draft of MeeGo compliance specification

2010-10-24 Thread harri.hakulinen
> >From: Thiago Macieira [thi...@kde.org] >Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2010 6:48 PM > >> Harri: >> I propose, that we don't specify softfp as the baseline for complience, >> but rather say that current softfp is temporary phase and we will move >> to hardfp a

Re: [MeeGo-dev] new draft of MeeGo compliance specification

2010-10-23 Thread harri.hakulinen
Hello all, > >From: Thiago Macieira [thi...@kde.org] >Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 8:59 AM > >On Wednesday 20. October 2010 07.49.07 Carsten Munk wrote: >> Line 72, we really need to spell out that it is ARMv7, EABI, softfp >> (for 1.1) as there is emerg

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Future of N900 as a MeeGo platform?

2010-10-12 Thread harri.hakulinen
Dave & all, Sorry that this came bit from behind trees, I was supposed to have blog post done some time before this to explain it bit. But really, like Quim said, there is nothing new on this if you take a look to what Carsten has already done for N900 and for MeeGo in general. My name has bee

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Minimal RAM requirements for MeeGo-Handset UX

2010-10-12 Thread harri.hakulinen
Hello, As Auke said, N900 tech spec would practically be the lowest for usable MeeGo experience. That is not so bad, knowing that it is already one year old device and based on bit older hw. We have still some unused tricks to make it bit faster and usable, but the good reference to todays de

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [meego-packaging] QtMobility has branched

2010-10-06 Thread harri.hakulinen
Arjan & all, If I remember correctly some F2F discussions on this topic (on a place close to Espoo), december deadline is not valid for those components that we are specifically developing for MeeGo 1.2, like QtMobility 1.2 in question. If it is not obvious already, this QtM release is designed

[MeeGo-dev] N900 Acting roles during July and availability of others

2010-07-05 Thread harri.hakulinen
Hello, During Finnish holiday season (July) the following acting roles are set to secure efficient "MeeGo on N900" execution: Ameay Palande is acting Team leader for N900 hardware adoption. - Carsten Munck is Acting N900

[MeeGo-dev] About building Handset UX Day1 image for N900; some notes and explanations

2010-07-01 Thread harri.hakulinen
Hello Meegos, As you know, yesterday Handset UX developement was opened in MeeGo. As N900 is the other hanset reference device in MeeGo, we are of course actively developing all the required adaptation elements to make it possible to run MeeGo Handset UX on N900. >From N900 adaptation point o

Re: [MeeGo-dev] create meego image for n900 error

2010-06-30 Thread harri.hakulinen
Hello, One of the problems that we had in last few days was that we had some build problems under ubuntu. This one looks different, but I can't say now if they are related or not. At least at the moment that file is available behind that URL. Br, //Harri From:

[MeeGo-dev] Tomorrow, sorry .. RE: State of N900 image after Handset Day 1

2010-06-30 Thread harri.hakulinen
Hello, There will be more information tomorrow how to get image for N900. We forgot to do one simple thing in time after some hassle, blaim me if you want to. But, please remember that this is Day 1 image, Work In Progress. So don't set your expectations too high. Openess of the image is on the

[MeeGo-dev] N900 Remaining issues for May release (IRC meeting tomorrow/today)

2010-05-23 Thread harri.hakulinen
Hello, As decided in our meeting last week, we will have meeting tomorrow, monday (/sunday evening PDT) about remaining issues for N900 May release. Would be nice if Intel (kernel) folks can also join to give their view/opinnion. Meeting is held in #meego-meeting on irc.freenode.net at monday

[MeeGo-dev] N900 Wellcome to first open project meeting

2010-05-19 Thread harri.hakulinen
Hello, Sorry for short notice, but we will have our first open N900 project meeting tomorrow at 9.00 EEST (8.00 CEST, 6.00 UTC, 24.00 PDT) The place is #meego-meeting IRC channel on irc.freenode.net See also http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900 For Agenda etc. (please notify me if you want to h

[MeeGo-dev] N900: Blockers for May release ?

2010-05-17 Thread harri.hakulinen
>From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com >On Behalf Of ext Marko Saukko >Sent: 17. toukokuuta 2010 10:46 > >> * If we have some standard items on the agenda for each meeting. >I think that the current blockers for the next N900 release >should be discussed to ensure that each of them would be >handled

Re: [MeeGo-dev] N900: Synchronisation meetings

2010-05-17 Thread harri.hakulinen
>Marko Saukko >On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Carsten Munk > wrote: >> So, one of the approaches to open development we're trying >in the N900 >> team is public synchronisation meetings, described at >> http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900#Team_synchronisation_meetings >> >> To get initially start

Re: [MeeGo-dev] N900 hw adaptation project goes open

2010-05-13 Thread harri.hakulinen
Hello, > >From: Dave Neary [nea...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of ext Dave Neary >[dne...@maemo.org] > >My question (based on the web page, and indeed your answer here) is what >functionality has been sacrificed in the name of freedom - that is, if >someone wanted

[MeeGo-dev] N900 RE: N900 Testing for Btrfs needed (RE: Btrfs as default file system)

2010-05-11 Thread harri.hakulinen
>From: carsten.m...@gmail.com [carsten.m...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of ext Carsten >Munk [cars...@maemo.org] >2010/5/11 wrote: >> As reasoning from Arjan sounds good, we obviously >> now need to do some testing with N900 & Btrfs as well. >> >> While filesystem is perhaps not something that must be

[MeeGo-dev] N900 Testing for Btrfs needed (RE: Btrfs as default file system)

2010-05-11 Thread harri.hakulinen
Ok, Somehow I forgot this Btrfs thing, I remember that there was some discussion about it at some point. As reasoning from Arjan sounds good, we obviously now need to do some testing with N900 & Btrfs as well. While filesystem is perhaps not something that must be the same between devices, it

[MeeGo-dev] N900 hw adaptation project goes open

2010-05-11 Thread harri.hakulinen
Hello Meego's, As indicated in my previous mail about "MeeGo for N900" status, we were planning to open up our MeeGo work around N900. Now I am happy to announce, that we are there ;) First, to make it absolute clear for everybody: This is about open MeeGo adaptation to N900 device. Like any o

Re: [MeeGo-dev] Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project

2010-04-23 Thread harri.hakulinen
From: Arnaud Ebalard [a...@natisbad.org] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 10:34 AM > writes: >> We have already enabled most of the main drivers, like LCD, GFX, Wlan >> and BT. Still, there is a lot to do in order to enable .33 on N900, >> like audio drivers, and modem subsystem including SSI buss dri

[MeeGo-dev] Brief status of "MeeGo to N900" project

2010-04-22 Thread harri.hakulinen
Hello MeeGos ! This is brief status update of "MeeGo to N900" project. This project is currently running as Nokia project, and I am Nokia project lead for it. The current closed mode of development is not the target for us at all, but rather transitional condition. As already discussed by Valt

Re: [MeeGo-dev] [PATCH] Fix ARM N900 build

2010-04-21 Thread harri.hakulinen
On 4/21/2010 13:50, Arjan van de Ven wrote >On 4/21/2010 0:22, Roger Quadros wrote: >> ext Arjan van de Ven wrote: >> Currently config-generic is more x86 specific it even has ARCH=x86. >> so currently config-generic is broken. > >so fix it ? But what you mention is not broken. It's by design. >con

Re: [MeeGo-dev] How to send a signal when i click the desktop?

2010-04-04 Thread harri.hakulinen
That is a great post for 4 year old, he clearly desires to work on Meego in coming years ! And the mathematical part must include some secret info about Meego schedules ;) //Hah From: meego-dev-boun...@meego.com [meego-dev-boun...@meego.com] On Behalf Of