If you get water in the rear floorboards, the front windshield is
probably leaking.
David Brodbeck wrote:
Mitch Haley wrote:
David Brodbeck wrote:
I can't tell if it's all coming from condensation, or if the condensation is a
symptom of a leak elsewhere.
I vote for the latter,
I didnt know you had one of these. Anyways, does this thing have some
sort of venting system for the fuel tank? Maybe the fumes are coming in
to the car that way.
Rusty Cullens wrote:
Well, I'll be damned. I need help. My W108 1969 280SEL smells horribly
of fuel in the cockpit, but there
Did you check the charcoal canister under the hood? (that's where they
usually are)
Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD
83 300D
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 08:13:09AM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Key off, engine not running = battery light on
Key on, engine not running = battery light off
Key on, engine running = battery light off
This alernator was swapped in and it was charging fine the other day.
Either I
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 02:32:57PM -0500, Jeff Zedic wrote:
Overall, an amazing little car in a crash. I see a dozen of these a day!
BT, WRONG.
The san francisco city workers' union is filing suit to prevent the city
from buying any more of them. The union claims that on the job injuries
I wasn't aware you could buy Smarts in the USA since they are not EPA
etc approved yet.
On 15-Nov-05, at 4:16 PM, Kevin wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 02:32:57PM -0500, Jeff Zedic wrote:
Overall, an amazing little car in a crash. I see a dozen of these
a day!
BT, WRONG.
The san
Well on my 250 it was in the trunk, behind the right side cosmetic panel. A
small plastic box with a line that headed down and out of the car
cosmetically concealed a bit by the corner of the bumper. As Jim Friesen
said. The other lines came (if I recall correctly) from the tank itself and
maybe
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 04:38:28PM -0800, John M McIntosh wrote:
I wasn't aware you could buy Smarts in the USA since they are not EPA
etc approved yet.
Some [EMAIL PROTECTED] in san rafael sells electric smarts, apparently. I
didn't think
they were approved either. I've seen a few buzzing
Smart doesn't make electric smarts either, perhaps you're confused
with some company selling golf carts?
On 15-Nov-05, at 4:49 PM, Kevin wrote:
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 04:38:28PM -0800, John M McIntosh wrote:
I wasn't aware you could buy Smarts in the USA since they are not EPA
etc approved
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 07:06:16PM -0500, Jeff Zedic wrote:
Did you check the charcoal canister under the hood? (that's where they
usually are)
Without knowing anything about 108s, my generic 'fuel leaks but no fuel leaks'
checklist would be to check the charcoal canister, check the fuel tank
Probably seeing the electric vehicles Ford sells to all of the state parks
around here.
Not even close to a Smart. Mike
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From: John M McIntosh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ]
I found the reference in my trusty old paper manual with pictures that you
can actually see. It was under 47-2 Fuel tank ventilation. The job number
would be he same I assume. Regardless, I attached a scan of the page for
reference if anyone was interested. Notice the complexity of the system in
John M McIntosh wrote:
I wasn't aware you could buy Smarts in the USA since they are not EPA
etc approved yet.
ZAP was importing them.
They recently sued D-C, so I don't think that project is going too well.
http://www.zapworld.com/about/news/news_zapfileslegal.asp
This is the one I went and looked at before I settled on my 79 240D (just
can not part with 123)
See or do a search on Big Lot
http://www.thebiglot.com/ad_auto.asp?WI=945342612MK=MERCEDES%20BENZMD=240DPN=1AT=1;
Car is still for sale, guy called me today he would reduce price. Might be
worth
Or the plastic canister may have disintegrated. The car was old enough to
drink legally in any state 15 years ago!
If prior suggestions don't yield a solution, you might try taking loose the
fuel line straps under the body, particularly around the rear axle and near
the firewall. The lines
uhh, yea, I sure hope he is coming down, alot.
Tom Scordato wrote:
This is the one I went and looked at before I settled on my 79 240D (just
can not part with 123)
See or do a search on Big Lot
http://www.thebiglot.com/ad_auto.asp?WI=945342612MK=MERCEDES%20BENZMD=240DPN=1AT=1;
Car is still
Ok, so who wants to buy this and see whats up
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89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81
Mike Canfield wrote:
Probably seeing the electric vehicles Ford sells to all of the state parks
around here.
Not even close to a Smart. Mike
Or those GM neighborhood vehicles. Glorified golf carts. I wouldn't
want to be in a crash in one.
The only way to be sure there is 8 qt of oil in the engine is to empty
the engine COMPLETELY and then put 8 qt of oil into it! The use of the
dipstick is a simple method for checking the oil content of the engine.
It worked rather reliably when conventional oil is used. Once you change
to
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D,
76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
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The Isuzu diesels in them have a reputation for running just about
forever, often outliving the body. (Just like our Mercedes Benzes.)
David Brodbeck wrote:
The Isuzu diesels in them have a reputation for running just about
forever, often outliving the body. (Just like our Mercedes Benzes.)
Here in the rust belt, anything would outlast a 1970's Jap pickup body.
(except maybe a Fiat body)
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 06:01:39PM -0800, David Brodbeck wrote:
The Isuzu diesels in them have a reputation for running just about
forever, often outliving the body. (Just like our Mercedes Benzes.)
With those trucks, that isn't hard. Same engine in the diesel chevette, iirc,
same story.
K
The W124 feels old in comparison.
Maybe because it is old.
Take a look at the car *before* the accident. Not a whole lot of
crumple room in the front of that car...and not much less
afterwards. Reminds me a bit of a VW Microbus, where all the
crumple is in the knee, not the bodywork.
Give me a properly engineered European sedan that folds like an
Mercedes specifies in MANY places that the optimum oil level is between
a pt and a qt below the MAX mark (they say it lots of different way, but
that's the bottom line). When the oil level increases much over the mid
level, oil consumption increases (that's been true of every Mercedes
I've
Since Smarts have not been certified for the US and there is no US model
(even though they are sold in Canada) I would like to see a photo of an SFO
city-owned Smart.
RLE/Seattle
you should not really concern your self with 1/2 qt of oil
the way to accurately check oil is to a change oil using 8 qt of oiland
filter
crank the engine with the dist coil wire off and placed nest to a ground
point to get the oil pumped up in to the filter and tensioners maybe
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since Smarts have not been certified for the US and there is no US model
(even though they are sold in Canada) I would like to see a photo of an SFO
city-owned Smart.
I don't think muni vehicles have to pass DOT EPA. USPS used to have
a fleet of Jeeps that would not
BS
Wilton
On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 09:39:36PM -0500, Mitch Haley wrote:
Since Smarts have not been certified for the US and there is no US model
(even though they are sold in Canada) I would like to see a photo of an SFO
city-owned Smart.
I don't think muni vehicles have to pass DOT EPA. USPS used
that is five times what I paid for Gump and looks to be in about the
same condition. Too many extras though. Robs too much power from the
puny engine and what chance the AC works?
On Tuesday, November 15, 2005, at 09:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=8014201501fromMakeTrack=true
No affiliation, ect. Too far for me... Kaleb... maybe?
Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD
Aw crap, you're right. I just checked the title. This buggy was
made in 1992!
Lee
'93 300D 2.5L turbodiesel 179K
On Tue Nov 15 18:11:39 PST 2005, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
The W124 feels old in comparison.
Maybe because it is old.
yep. Gump weeps too. I think I may need to install some Depends
On Tuesday, November 15, 2005, at 11:40 AM, David Brodbeck wrote:
Anyone else have this problem? Every morning there's a ton of
condensation on the inside of the trunk lid. It runs down the hinges
into the trunk when I open
Once you change to Mobil 1 (and some other synthetics) the scheme that's
outline in
older (up thru the mid '90s or a bit later) owner's manual doesn't
work. Mercedes solved the problem by eliminating the dipstick before they
mandated synthetic oil.
Well, that makes sense as the average
Two problems with the SD re: idle:
1. When engine is cold (not ambient brr cold, just room temp, but worse
when truly COLD) it idles fine BUT as soon as I put it in reverse (or turn on
the A/C in hot weather), the idle drops and the car usually stalls. Will stall
at about 450 RPM.
2.
yes, I leaarned this the...easy way...fill it to full, take a trip, check oil,
reads mid way, take the rest of the trip (3 times as many miles as the first
leg) and it never moves below mid-way. Gets burned off/blown out fast.
Chris
LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can personally attest to
Just a wild guess, but if you keep the electrolyte level up, there
shouldn't be a problem?
Haven't you converted to parallel glow plugs and Mobil1? Why are you
leaving a charger on overnight? Old battery?
On 11/15/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I know the correct answer is Battery
LT Don wrote:
But here is my question. Is there any significant damage done by leaving a
normal battery charger on overnight, where it might get to zero amps but
stay attached for a few hours? This is not a fancy battery charger that
shuts off or kicks into trickle mode or such.
On a typical
I've got to paste in your name - hate to not acknowledge the
author/inventor. I'd run across it just last night while looking for
something else, so it was right at hand when I read the request.
On 11/15/05, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK Don, thnx for re-posting my $2 oil sucker
yea I have been watching it.
Rick Knoble wrote:
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No affiliation, ect. Too far for me... Kaleb... maybe?
Rick Knoble
1985 300 CD
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Ok, so who wants to buy this and see whats up
I just bought it, i'll let you guys know what it is when I get it. I'll
repost with subject as TIP
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Norman, OK
'90 300D, '87 300SDL,
Well, you CAN overcharge a battery and that can be just as bad as
discharging it completely.
Tim
1982 300TD Moby
On 11/15/05, LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, I know the correct answer is Battery Tender -- it is on my Christmas
wish list.
But here is my question. Is there any significant
Bought it, and this is the email I got back (i hinted that it was alright if
it was a practical joke):
Dear Gabriel: Thankyou for the quick payment it's not a pratical joke, I
have had this on in the past and it works. It's from an old friend of mine
who has had a boat; and a Diesel Chevrolet
Christopher McCann wrote:
Two problems with the SD re: idle:
1. When engine is cold (not ambient brr cold, just room temp, but
worse when truly COLD) it idles fine BUT as soon as I put it in
reverse (or turn on the A/C in hot weather), the idle drops and the
car usually stalls. Will stall
Chris:
The two problems are separate. Your idle speed is too low, the
injection timing is late, or the pump is worn. I would up the idle
speed a bit (this isn't just turning a screw, alas), and would check
the timing chain for stretch -- likely you have 6-8 degrees of
stretch and the IP is
You will be overcharging the battery. You will lose water, and
eventually you can overheat the battery or swell the plates inside up
and crack them. Overnight isn't too bad, but why don't you just toss
out the $90 or so and get an automatic charger -- unless to fry it
somehow, it should last
rumor has it that LT wrote:
Yes, I know the correct answer is Battery Tender -- it is on my Christmas
wish list.
But here is my question. Is there any significant damage done by leaving a
normal battery charger on overnight, where it might get to zero amps but
stay attached for a few
rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you should not really concern your self with 1/2 qt of oil
the way to accurately check oil is to a change oil using 8 qt of oiland
filter
crank the engine with the dist coil wire off and placed nest to a ground
point to get the oil
Christopher McCann wrote:
Two problems with the SD re: idle:
1. When engine is cold (not ambient brr cold, just room temp, but worse when truly COLD) it idles fine BUT as soon as I put it in reverse (or turn on the A/C in hot weather), the idle drops and the car usually stalls. Will stall
LT Don wrote:
Yes, I know the correct answer is Battery Tender -- it is on my Christmas
wish list.
But here is my question. Is there any significant damage done by leaving a
normal battery charger on overnight, where it might get to zero amps but
stay attached for a few hours? This is not a
Christopher McCann wrote:
Obviously something other than idle adjust needs done. Is there some GIZMO
that controls idle when a load is put on (A/C, reverse (no acceleration in
reverse, just reverse and idle backwards (down hill - still stalls!))) and/or
would also cause the rhythmic idling?
In a message dated 11/15/2005 6:11:35 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jim, this is kind of directed at you, as I know you live in the Phoenix
area. Anyone else though, is free to respond.
I'm trying to make an action plan for getting the 240D on the road. I have a
Plugged charcoal canister?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I'll be damned. I need help. My W108 1969 280SEL smells horribly
of fuel in the cockpit, but there are no leaks anywhere to be found.
Anybody ever experience this? Clogged air filter maybe?
Rusty Cullens
1-800-741-5252
I had a similar but not identical problem with my 116 SD. My suggestions are
strictly seat o' the pants YMMV, etc.
First, are you certain there is no air getting into the system, for example
is your primer pump in good shape (and does it screw-lock into position
after use, if it's the old style)?
No Affiliation, no kick backs just passing this on for the good of the list
I test drove this car a while back. One of the nicest 300Ds I have seen on
east coast. Maintained and records are at MB dealer in Philly area I forget
which one but I did speak to them. Guy who owns it now, Joe is
LTD--
I think the correct answer is, it depends on the charger. The problem
with leaving a cheap charger on--if it keeps pumping juice into the
battery--is that the battery will continue to gas or boil. Over time,
the electrolyte level will lower eventually dry out and destroy the
battery.
Anything with a diesel has been hot lately. People seem to be dragging old
diesel VW Jettas out of fields and posting them on ebay, and getting
thousands of dollars for them...
Lee
'93 300D 2.5L turbodiesel 179K
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
If the charger is automatic, like most are, the current will go to near
nothing when the battery voltage reaches the set value. If you notice that
the battery gets very warm when you leave the charger on, you are boiling
off water and the battery will get dry. Other than that it will be OK to
Cheapscate
On 11/15/05, Rusty Cullens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know you would like that discount Chuck, but I think I'll stick with
Adrian's 10%.
That does not seem to be a regulator/alternator problem.
That's what should happen:
Key off, engine off = hot from fusebox *cut off* at switch, lamp grounded
through regulator (no current)
Key on, engine off = hot from fusebox through switch to lamp, ground through
regulator (current through lamp)
And where is the coil wire on a diesel? :-)
...Kevin
87 300TD 278k mi
Christopher McCann said:
although accurate, not very convenient on a regular basis!
Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
you should not really concern your self with 1/2 qt of oil
the way to accurately check oil is to a
The rhythmic revving ONLY happens in PARK and NEUTRAL. NEVER in DRIVE, REVERSE,
3 or 2...even when at a dead stop.
Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri
-2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose
-1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen
-1985 300SD, 209K, Wulf
-1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen
But here is my question. Is there any significant damage done by leaving a
normal battery charger on overnight, where it might get to zero amps but
stay attached for a few hours? This is not a fancy battery charger that
shuts off or kicks into trickle mode or such.
what can happens is the
Hello,
I am a recent newcomer and lurker on this list and I have enjoyed the expert
advice and friendly atmosphere to frequently asked questions. About a month
ago, I purchased a 1985 300CD from eBay that I had planned to use as a daily
driver and as a suitable candidate for biodiesel.
No vent that I can see at the tank.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:04 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Help
I didnt know you had one of these. Anyways, does this thing
No charcoal canister on this baby.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Zedic
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:06 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Help
Did you check the charcoal canister under the hood? (that's where
Yeah, the fuel injected cars don't have that, I guess I am crawling all
over and under it this weekend.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:40 PM
To: 'Mercedes mailing list'
Subject: Re: [MBZ]
Have you checked the trunk seal itself? The trunk lid could be out of
alignment and allowing water to get in through the gap. BTDT. Taillight
housing seals? BTDT as well.
Good Luck.
Nick Gough
86 300SDL 171k
93 300E 2.8 121k
97 Jetta 70k
Thanks guys. I knew there was somebody from Litchfield Park here too.
Hey, as strange as this sounds, I need to ask if anyone has a good
recommendation for Tucson as well.
You see, our action plan is still in flux. The car is in Tucson, the engine
is in Phoenix, etc.
Tucson is my home
Number 2 issue sounds like loping at idle. Both are fuel
delivery/timing issues. Gump had them, but I can not remember what I
did.
this is from the 2000 digest
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Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:48:28 -0500
From: Steve MacSween [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:
Howdy -
The problem created when a battery charger is left running is can boil off
all the acid/water in the battery. More full featured chargers/maintainers
will shutoff the charge completely.I had one on my sailboat that stayed
on anytime shorepower was hooked up but it had the
We had a 82 Izusu I-Mark 2 dr sedan - between 40 50 mpg *all* the time.
Started instantly even in cold weather and had a non-interference engine so
a belt failure didn't destroy the engine. Plus, with lots of torque a
5-speed it was ideal to teach my daughter how to drive a stick.
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