Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end, Part II

2006-03-23 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Peter, do you mean here the bushings on the camber arms? Are they available as a separate part? The FSM says to replace the entire camber arm if the mounts are worn, just like all the other links in the rear. On 1/1/70, Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Camber arms don't wear much,

Re: [MBZ] MSRP's of our old cars

2006-03-23 Thread Christopher McCann
I got a copy of Enduring Passion by Butterfield. It's in the business section as it is on branding. He uses MB as the example throughout the book (very nice cover, BTW) and he interviews lots of MB insiders and there is a substantial amount of documentation on the take over by

Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end, Part II

2006-03-23 Thread Marshall Booth
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Peter, do you mean here the bushings on the camber arms? Are they available as a separate part? The FSM says to replace the entire camber arm if the mounts are worn, just like all the other links in the rear. I suggest replacing all four links on both sides - not

Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end, Part II

2006-03-23 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 3/22/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest replacing all four links on both sides - not just parts of them! Four? Camber strut, torque strut, tie rod, thrust arm, spring link... which one is not included? (Not trying to be a smartypants here... just making sure I know the

[MBZ] An SL for wifey?

2006-03-23 Thread Bob DuPuy
I need a few opinions about a newer car for my wife. She is going to cut back on her volunteer work and take a corporate attorney job. She likes her 87 300D, but it needs more work than it makes sense to do with AC, paint, and suspension. She says she would like a roadster and since I don't know

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2006-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I am offended redghost wrote: Look at these, or just use the delete key http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/144069636.html -- 92 SD $10k http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/144046336.html -- 82 SD $1600 http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/143941492.html -- 92 SEL $7200

Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end, Part II

2006-03-23 Thread Marshall Booth
Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 3/22/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest replacing all four links on both sides - not just parts of them! Four? Camber strut, torque strut, tie rod, thrust arm, spring link... which one is not included? (Not trying to be a smartypants here...

[MBZ] 87 190D Question: Re: W124 squirrely rear end, Part II

2006-03-23 Thread Robert Massmann
Does the 87 190D 2.5Turbo have similar issues with the rear end links. I have noticed lateral motion of the rear of the car when there is a rapid change engine output torque, ie letting of the throttle on hills or during some shifts. Regards, Robert Massmann Wilmington, Ohio 87 190D 2.5 Turbo

Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end, Part II

2006-03-23 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 3/22/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 3/22/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest replacing all four links on both sides - not just parts of them! Four? Camber strut, torque strut, tie rod, thrust arm, spring link... which

Re: [MBZ] W124 squirrely rear end, Part II

2006-03-23 Thread Peter Frederick
The rubber is part of the springing system, cannot be replaced separately. That's why the axle must be positioned at normal ride height BEFORE tightening the bolts on both ends of the links. All the links are made the same way -- a steel sleeve that is clamped in place by the bolt

[MBZ] oh my

2006-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-380-SE-Hooptie-Mobile-The-Beast_W0QQitemZ4623542347QQcategoryZ6330QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74

[MBZ] glow plug issue 87 190D 2.5 Turbo

2006-03-23 Thread Robert Massmann
Lately my my glow plug light has not come on when I turn the key to the run position. It doen't happen all the time and it will come on and cycle normally after have turn the key to engine start position then turn it back to the off position and then back to the run postion. I sounds like an

Re: [MBZ] glow plug issue 87 190D 2.5 Turbo

2006-03-23 Thread Peter Frederick
Built in diagnostics -- you have a bad glow plug or two. Replace them all and the lamp will work normally. Peter

Re: [MBZ] 87 190D Question: Re: W124 squirrely rear end, Part II

2006-03-23 Thread Alex Chamberlain
I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in here, but surely the answer's yes? The five-link rear suspension design was introduced on the 201 and then used with very little change on the 124. Many of the parts for the 124 suspension have 201 part numbers! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo

Re: [MBZ] oh my

2006-03-23 Thread Loren Faeth
Kaleb! You REALLY need this one! That factory special order interior is worth a fortune, if your wife doesn't demand it for her car! I wonder what the interior code number is! At 07:35 PM 3/22/2006, you wrote:

[MBZ] Door Seal Epiphany

2006-03-23 Thread Stuart Saxonberg
Replacing front door seals on my 300D. Ripped out the old one, in pieces. Struggling with the new one, getting it into the groove is not easy (which is good, 'cause it'd be too easy to get out). Epiphany: Silicone Spray Lubricant. That is all. Stuart S. 1976 300D w115

Re: [MBZ] oh my

2006-03-23 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Worth fixing up. It's a Euro! Note the manual climate control, headlights, dark cloth seats under the silly covers, and lack of sunroof. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo On 3/22/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 87 190D Question: Re: W124 squirrely rear end, Part II

2006-03-23 Thread Marshall Booth
Alex Chamberlain wrote: I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in here, but surely the answer's yes? The five-link rear suspension design was introduced on the 201 and then used with very little change on the 124. Many of the parts for the 124 suspension have 201 part numbers! Alex

Re: [MBZ] oh my

2006-03-23 Thread Curt Raymond
Am I wrong in thinking thats alotta miles for a gasser? Whats up with the HVAC controls? I've never seen that setup before. Of course I have no 126 experience, that is a 126 right? Oh and does the plate under the shifter being out of place scare the crap out of anybody else? -Curt

Re: [MBZ] Door Seal Epiphany

2006-03-23 Thread John W. Reames III
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006, Stuart Saxonberg wrote: Epiphany: Silicone Spray Lubricant. That is all. Works great on sunroof seals too! And subframe bushings to boot! -j.

Re: [MBZ] 87 190D Question: Re: W124 squirrely rear end, Part II

2006-03-23 Thread Peter Frederick
Ditto for the 210, I believe, as some of the parts have 210 numbers. Volvo used a very similar if not identical system on the 760s. Peter

Re: [MBZ] oh my

2006-03-23 Thread Sunil Hari
how can you tell they're cloth seats? They have the seatcovers on all of them. But it's definitely a Euro car. On 3/22/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I wrong in thinking thats alotta miles for a gasser? Whats up with the HVAC controls? I've never seen that setup before. Of

Re: [MBZ] oh my

2006-03-23 Thread Hendrik Riessen
It's Hawaii 50 I like the question about wether it has a sunroof now or in the past. Perhaps you mericans make a habit of welding up sunroofs. Hendrik with boring old standard interior and no sunny sun roof now or in the past (that I know of) - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth

Re: [MBZ] oh my

2006-03-23 Thread Alex Chamberlain
D'oh, you're right, Sunil. I mistook the black side panels on the seatcovers for the actual seat fabric peeking through on one of the interior pictures. They still could well be cloth, though. I love this moronic comment: DID THIS CAR HAVE A SUNROOF AT ONE TIME? What do they think, somebody

Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?

2006-03-23 Thread LT Don
One of the new BMW two-seat drop-tops? What are they called, the Z4 or something like that? On 3/22/06, Bob DuPuy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She is going to cut back on her volunteer work and take a corporate attorney job. -- There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies. -- Tom Clancy,

Re: [MBZ] cheap 190D

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1986-mercedes-190D-Diesel-Super- mileage-little- work_W0QQitemZ8046512254QQcategoryZ6783QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem There went my next generator! -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD continued

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey
I would love to have the SDL. The amount of leg space out back is significant, even though I think it is only 2 more than the SD. Ended up with the POS SDL for the legroom. The extra 5.5 of wheelbase is all in the rear footwell, and is a pretty serious addition to legroom back there. About

Re: [MBZ] oh my

2006-03-23 Thread Sunil Hari
IT HAS NEVER HAD A SUNROOF IT USED TO HAVE AN ELECTRIC SLIDING ROOF BUT NOW MY HUSBAND THE NIGERIAN KING WELDED IT SHUT ALONG WITH $25 MILLION PLEASE HELP ME GET IT OUT OF THE COUNTRY THANK YOU GOD BLESS On 3/22/06, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: D'oh, you're right, Sunil. I mistook

Re: [MBZ] oh my

2006-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Loren Faeth wrote: Kaleb! You REALLY need this one! That factory special order interior is worth a fortune, if your wife doesn't demand it for her car! I wonder what the interior code number is! At 07:35 PM 3/22/2006, you wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 87 190D Question: Re: W124 squirrely rear end, Part II

2006-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
ALL of the rear suspension parts are the same as far as the links, hubs etc. Those parts fit quite a few cars all the way up to the SLK, CLK and such. Marshall Booth wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will chime in here, but surely the answer's yes? The

Re: [MBZ] oh my

2006-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
plate under the shifter being out of place? I dont see anything wrong. Curt Raymond wrote: Am I wrong in thinking thats alotta miles for a gasser? Whats up with the HVAC controls? I've never seen that setup before. Of course I have no 126 experience, that is a 126 right? Oh and does

Re: [MBZ] oh my

2006-03-23 Thread jjayj
i'm going to remember how well gray tape matches the interior door panel... -- Original message -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] plate under the shifter being out of place? I dont see anything wrong. Curt Raymond wrote: Am I wrong in thinking

[MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread RELNGSON
Perhaps you mericans make a habit of welding up sunroofs. Bondo is a helluva lot cheaper than new gaskets. RLE

Re: [MBZ] 87 190D Question: Re: W124 squirrely rear end, Part II

2006-03-23 Thread David Brodbeck
Peter Frederick wrote: Ditto for the 210, I believe, as some of the parts have 210 numbers. Volvo used a very similar if not identical system on the 760s. Did they? I thought the 700-series Volvos still had a solid rear axle, not an independent suspension like a Mercedes. I don't have any

Re: [MBZ] Biodegradable wiring

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey
The wiring harnesses that Mercedes sells today as replacements are said to be identical (they carry the same part number I'm told) to the ones originally installed, but are expected to last at least 10 years even under harsh conditions. A whole 10 years? Be still my heart! -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread Peter Frederick
If the sunroof leaks, check for a deteriorated drain pan or plugged drains (all four corners, drains out the doorposts. The sunroof gasket is a fiber faced thing, it does NOT seal out water. The water is collected by the drain pan and drained out four plastic pipes to the ground. If they

[MBZ] MSRP

2006-03-23 Thread wilton strickland
$58K for my 91 350 SDL. Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Project 240D in Oregon

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey
had a really pleasant chat with Jim when he came by to get the hubcaps. Nice family and that 240D is a SUPERB car for what it is. I must bow down to Jim's ability to take dead iron and make it come back to life. The car got all the way to Seattle from Spokane and most likely will get even

Re: [MBZ] Question about 1984 190D auto

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey
I'm planning to go look at it, but first, I want to know if it's possible to fix rather than rebuild the tranny. It is staying in 1st gear. Is this a failure mode for that particular transmission? Here's the link to the ad. http://portland.craigslist.org/car/143342384.html It could be

Re: [MBZ] Biodegradable wiring

2006-03-23 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:44:12 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The wiring harnesses that Mercedes sells today as replacements are said to be identical (they carry the same part number I'm told) to the ones originally installed, but are expected to last at least 10 years even under

Re: [MBZ] HF Diesel Compression Tester: $17

2006-03-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Zeitgeist wrote: FYI: I dropped by my local Harbor Freight yesterday to browse the aisles while waiting for wife's doc appointment. They had a diesel compression tester on sale for $17. It appeared to have quite a few adapters, one of which must fit the MB/VW injectors. Something like

[MBZ] Walmart going upscale

2006-03-23 Thread RELNGSON
So then this means that Mobil 1 (only MB approved, of course) will be packaged in Rosenthal crystal decanters? Closer inspection will reveal they are plastic and made in China. RLE

Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?

2006-03-23 Thread mykd1
I'd stay away from the Z3 or Z4 cause they are riddled with problems. Your best bet is a 300SL or even a SLK 230 or maybe even a 320. Just my 2 cents though 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: LT Don

[MBZ] Mercedes Supersedans

2006-03-23 Thread Dave M.
Hi all, The March edition of Motor Trend Classic has a neat article on some vintage Mercedes supersedans... namely: 1) 1971 300SEL 6.3 2) 1978 450SEL 6.9 3) 1992 500E It's 8 pages long with some pretty sweet photos and specs on all 3 models. The PDF is available here - 10MB download. Enjoy!

Re: [MBZ] MSRP of our Cars

2006-03-23 Thread James Jetton
My 1987 300SDL sold for 53k and change with the ortho seats. James S. Jetton 1987 300SDL 139k From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Mar 23 05:26:14 2006 Received: from mxa.windwireless.net ([199.164.167.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FMIKs-0007zX-6N for [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Question about 1984 190D auto

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey
I'll buy the 190D, free up the tranny, and trade Jim out of that 240D. Sound good? I'm going to look at it tomorrow since I have a free day. Well, I'm personally looking to try to make a couple of months' health insurance out of the 240D, and only have a budget in the few hundreds for a 190D

Re: [MBZ] Biodegradable wiring

2006-03-23 Thread Desert Rat
Speaking of, anyone know if these issues are occuring to other German makes? Wonder what Audi, BMW and VW are dealing with these issues? On 3/22/06, Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:44:12 -0800 Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The wiring harnesses that

Re: [MBZ] Biodegradable wiring

2006-03-23 Thread Kevin
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 11:46:55PM -0800, Desert Rat wrote: Speaking of, anyone know if these issues are occuring to other German makes? Wonder what Audi, BMW and VW are dealing with these issues? IIRC, volvo had a similar problem. Can't remember the exact details. One could say british car

Re: [MBZ] Biodegradable wiring

2006-03-23 Thread Desert Rat
ROTFLthinking back when my TR3 dash caught fire. On 3/22/06, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 11:46:55PM -0800, Desert Rat wrote: Speaking of, anyone know if these issues are occuring to other German makes? Wonder what Audi, BMW and VW are dealing with these issues?

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Supersedans

2006-03-23 Thread Alex Chamberlain
Cool story, Dave. Thanks for scanning it in! $7500 is given as the typical price of a tired runner 6.9. I wonder if I should have snapped up the one I saw for $1200 on a used-car lot a couple of years ago? (I'd probably still be paying off the credit card bills to fix it up, though...) Alex

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Supersedans

2006-03-23 Thread Aaron Lam
Hmm, strange how they mention door mounted seat switches on the W116. AFAIK they first came about on the W126. -Aaron

Re: [MBZ] Question about 1984 190D auto

2006-03-23 Thread kevin kraly
Well, I lost out on that 190D. It was sold by the time I was able to get over there. It'll probably pop up on CL again once it's fixed up. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D

Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?

2006-03-23 Thread Bob DuPuy
I like the 300SL from around 93. Are there any known problems with this car, or that engine? There is not a huge price difference now between the 300 and the 500 is the 500 engine more troublesome? Thanks, Bob DuPuy On 3/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd stay away from the

[MBZ] W115 seats in a W123?

2006-03-23 Thread kevin kraly
Will they work? Can the seat bottom from a w115 be put on W123 seat runners? I have someone who's interested in my 220D driver's seat. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D parting out

Re: [MBZ] oh my

2006-03-23 Thread Sunil Hari
the wood plate off the ashtray is missing. That's all. On 3/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm going to remember how well gray tape matches the interior door panel... -- Original message -- From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] plate under

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread Potter, Tom E
Why anyone would cut a hole in the top of a perfectly good vehicle is beyond me! I did find them handy here in Texas. When you first get in the vehicle, you can open the sunroof to let the hot air out quickly. You then have to close it so you can operate the AC. Tom Potter Who hates sunroofs

Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?

2006-03-23 Thread George Gregory
I had a 1995 SL320 and subsequently a 1997 SL500. The eight cylinder gets slightly better gas mileage. The V8 car gets 18mpg city and 25mpg highway. In the process of looking at one time I drove a manual SL300. I felt it was a little doggy; but then I didn't have enough time with it to really

Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?

2006-03-23 Thread Dave M.
The SL320 / 300SL will have the M104 engine... nice motor, it has the usual issues with head gaskets like most of the M104's, don't think there's anything else major to worry about. The SL500 / 500SL will have the M119 engine, which is a real powerhouse... no major problems there, but usually due

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2006-03-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
Why are you offended? Because none of these cars are earmarked for you? On 3/22/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am offended redghost wrote: Look at these, or just use the delete key http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/144069636.html -- 92 SD $10k

Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD continued

2006-03-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
SWMBA?? Or do you mean SWMBO? On 3/22/06, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would love to have the SDL. The amount of leg space out back is significant, even though I think it is only 2 more than the SD. Ended up with the POS SDL for the legroom. The extra 5.5 of wheelbase is

Re: [MBZ] MSRP

2006-03-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
For contrast, here are the purchase and selling prices of my first four B-Bs (all used): Purchased in 1982: 1973 280 PP $4700 SP $4850 1983 Purchased in 1983: 1976 300D PP $9,500 SP $8,500 1984 Purchased in 1984: 1980 300D PP $15,000 SP $11,750 1986 Purchased in 1986: 1970 280SE PP $3200

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Supersedans

2006-03-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
I wondered about that too. I looked endlessly for a decent 6.3 or 6.9 about 15 years ago but couldn't find one that wasn't crapped out so gave up and instead settled for a 300SE L 3.5 that had been well looked after. The 3.5 was plenty quick and expensive to maintain, and quite satisfying to own

Re: [MBZ] oh my

2006-03-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
The wooden locking tabs are broken off the shifter cover, which is why it appears to be 'floating. On 3/23/06, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the wood plate off the ashtray is missing. That's all. On 3/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm going to remember how

Re: [MBZ] HF Diesel Compression Tester: $17

2006-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
yea I have been seeing those. Might have to get one even though I already have one since this one comes with more adapters. I had to buy the MB injector hole adapter seperate and it was WAY more than this whole set. Mitch Haley wrote: Zeitgeist wrote: FYI: I dropped by my local Harbor

[MBZ] OT: SWMBA was... Re: 1983 300SD continued

2006-03-23 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Andrew, A = Admired, Adored, Appreciated, you go thru the rest of the A's that work for you.. Chuck Phoenix AZ . without an SWMBA or O. Except for a 300SD and a 16Valve. Both She's On Mar 23, 2006, at 7:33 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: SWMBA?? Or

Re: [MBZ] MSRP

2006-03-23 Thread Christopher McCann
$81845.94 - adjusted Chris wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $58K for my 91 350 SDL. Wilton ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Supersedans

2006-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
exactly Aaron Lam wrote: Hmm, strange how they mention door mounted seat switches on the W116. AFAIK they first came about on the W126. -Aaron ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts

Re: [MBZ] W115 seats in a W123?

2006-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
no kevin kraly wrote: Will they work? Can the seat bottom from a w115 be put on W123 seat runners? I have someone who's interested in my 220D driver's seat. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D parting out ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see

Re: [MBZ] MSRP of our Cars

2006-03-23 Thread Christopher McCann
$89095.84 - adjusted Chris James Jetton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 1987 300SDL sold for 53k and change with the ortho seats. James S. Jetton 1987 300SDL 139k ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor:

Re: [MBZ] HF Diesel Compression Tester: $17

2006-03-23 Thread Tom Hargrave
Be careful woth HF tools, many with housings have the housing made of cast aluminum or pot metal. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 9:10 AM

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread Marshall Booth
Potter, Tom E wrote: Why anyone would cut a hole in the top of a perfectly good vehicle is beyond me! I did find them handy here in Texas. When you first get in the vehicle, you can open the sunroof to let the hot air out quickly. You then have to close it so you can operate the AC. I've

Re: [MBZ] OT: SWMBA was... Re: 1983 300SD continued

2006-03-23 Thread Dave Wakin
I've been trying to guess what SWMBA stands for myself - and have gotten nowhere. Can someone spell it out for me so I can go Oh, yeah now I get it Thanks Dave W

Re: [MBZ] Door Seal Epiphany

2006-03-23 Thread Curt Raymond
When I did the sunroof seal on my 240D I used soapy water in a dish detergent bottle, worked a treat. -Curt Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:15:06 -0800 From: Stuart Saxonberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Door Seal Epiphany To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] 1983 300SD continued

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey
SWMBA?? Or do you mean SWMBO? No, She Who Must Be Annoyed. It seems to be a compulsion with her, at least as regards myself! I haven't noticed much of a correlation with the A factor as regards my car habits, in spite of some of the associated verbiage. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey
Servicing ONE of them is more than I want. I see it as just another useless, expensive option with which M-B saddled Americans. I notice that M-B did not inflict this nuisance on their neighbors in Europe. Leave them closed, service them not. Unplug the connector. Voila! DBAG would build

[MBZ] I love the interior color

2006-03-23 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
check out the hood star http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-MERCEDES-240D-IN-ROCKWALL-TX_W0QQitemZ4624951796QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D,

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread Marshall Booth
Potter, Tom E wrote: Doc, Servicing ONE of them is more than I want. I see it as just another useless, expensive option with which M-B saddled Americans. I notice that M-B did not inflict this nuisance on their neighbors in Europe. Not saddled at all! Mercedes offered all the US models at

Re: [MBZ] I love the interior color

2006-03-23 Thread R A Bennell
That must be the optional supersized hoodstar. Rarely seen - must make the vehicle worth more?? Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:13 AM To: Banned List; Mercedes mailing list

Re: [MBZ] I love the interior color

2006-03-23 Thread John Ervine
R A Bennell wrote: That must be the optional supersized hoodstar. Rarely seen - must make the vehicle worth more?? I was wondering if it might have been a hacked up 600 star until I got a look at the front-on shot and saw how out of proportion it was. And to think: someone not only *made*

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Supersedans

2006-03-23 Thread Sunil Hari
And they said $20K for a 500E? I thought those things were going for $50K now? On 3/23/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: those prices are WAY inflated for the 6.3 and 6.9. Decent 6.9's will run around 4k or less. Alex Chamberlain wrote: Cool story, Dave. Thanks for

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Supersedans

2006-03-23 Thread Alex Chamberlain
No way any factory 124 goes for anywhere near $50K, except maybe a late Cabriolet in mint condition. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper On 3/23/06, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And they said $20K for a 500E? I thought those things were going for $50K now? On 3/23/06,

Re: [MBZ] I love the interior color

2006-03-23 Thread R A Bennell
Isn't it likely a star from the trunk lid? Randy B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of John Ervine Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:58 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] I love the interior color R A Bennell wrote: That must

Re: [MBZ] Door Seal Epiphany

2006-03-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
Does anyone have a clue how to adjust an electric S/R on a late W111 coupe or W108 sedan? According to the manual, the front edge is supposed to be in a position slightly below the car's roofline. In actuality, mine sticks u a couple mm ABOVE the rood of the car, and the adjustment procedure

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread andrew strasfogel
I strongly disagree! A sliding roof is one of the great joys of Mercedes optiondom. Nothing beats it for ventilation, esp. on a hot day when the temp. can exceed 160 inside a car parked in the sun. In fact, it's almost a necessity. [flames sure to follow]. On 3/23/06, Marshall Booth [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] OT: SWMBA was... Re: 1983 300SD continued

2006-03-23 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Dave, She Who Must Be Appreciated/Admired/Adored.Or in the case of the O Obeyed! Glad to help out Chuck Phoenix AZ On Mar 23, 2006, at 8:40 AM, Dave Wakin wrote: I've been trying to guess what SWMBA stands for myself - and have gotten nowhere. Can someone spell it out

[MBZ] 300SD 1985 Vacuum problems

2006-03-23 Thread George Larribeau
Hi Is there a good guide on checking out the vacuum system on my 126 oiler? It has been flakey for a while but as of late I need to rev the engine a bit after I have removed the key to get it to kill. The brakes are a bit hard when I first start driving. 'But of course' the door locks work

Re: [MBZ] W115 seats in a W123?

2006-03-23 Thread kevin kraly
no That's what I thought. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1973 220D parting out

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Supersedans

2006-03-23 Thread Dave M.
Their 500E prices were a bit low. Most 500E's are in the $12-$17k range with average miles (80-120k). Not much goes cheaper than that unless it's salvage or has really high miles. Clean low miles examples are in the $20-25k range. There's not much over $30k except garage queens and exotica like

Re: [MBZ] valve adjust/outside air temp

2006-03-23 Thread Marshall Booth
Luther Gulseth wrote: '82 300CD currently the outside air temp is 6oC(43oF). Is this an ok temp for adjusting valves? The manual says clearance is set at 20oC-I=0.10 and E=0.35. Is 6o too cold or will it really make that much difference? The precise temp is NOT critical (within 10-20

Re: [MBZ] valve adjust/outside air temp

2006-03-23 Thread Luther Gulseth
This is good news. Engine has sat overnight. Thanks, Luther ~ ~The precise temp is NOT critical (within 10-20 degrees). Most any temp ~from freezing to comfortable or even warm room temp is fine. What IS ~critical is an even temp distribution during the period during which you ~are adjusting

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread Jim Cathey
Were you the one guy? Did the idiot sell MBs for a living? No, I heard about it on a Unimog mailing list. I think it was just a snob. -- Jim

[MBZ] Leaky 126

2006-03-23 Thread wilton strickland
The practical engineer part of me also can't understand why anyone would cut a hole in a perfectly good steel top, then pay mucho $ for it. I've never opened the ridiculous sun roofs on my 124 and 126 - 'wish they didn't have 'em. 'Couldn't get 124 and 126 without 'em. Wilton (P. S. 'Also

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread John Ervine
Jim Cathey wrote: No, I heard about it on a Unimog mailing list. I think it was just a snob. As long as we are talking about Daimler-Chrysler trucks that should or should not have three-pointed stars on them, I snapped this photo 2 years ago at the Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance:

Re: [MBZ] MSRP's of our old cars

2006-03-23 Thread tom savage
Alex Chamberlain wrote: Now the prices are set by the marketing department, cost is based on price less markup, and quality has suffered accordingly. Speaking of markup, profit margins back in the day were something on the order of 15-20% per vehicle, I'm told. Nowadays, I think it is more

Re: [MBZ] Biodegradable wiring

2006-03-23 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Don't know how British Leyland with Lucas electrics could ever catch fire-they never had any current running through them. Had a Series III Land Rover. Finally switched over to as many Bosch electrics as I could. Dwight Giles, Jr 1979 240D auto, 250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t, 130K miles Wickford,

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126

2006-03-23 Thread Sunil Hari
I thought you could get a 124 or 126 without a sliding roof, BUT you had to specially order it from the factory, then wait 6-8 weeks for your car to be built and shipped over. That, or you take Euro delivery. Marshall, what's the official word? On 3/23/06, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread Sunil Hari
That picture made me laugh so hard, I peed a little. On 3/23/06, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: No, I heard about it on a Unimog mailing list. I think it was just a snob. As long as we are talking about Daimler-Chrysler trucks that should or should not have

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread Chuck Landenberger
John, Your website is great.. Can relate to the pix of the 300SD.. Any idea what the silhouettes of vehicles on the driver's door mean? Just curious.. Chuck Phoenix AZ 1986 190E 2.3 16V 1980 300SD On Mar 23, 2006, at 3:57 PM, John Ervine wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: No, I

Re: [MBZ] Leaky 126 sunroofs

2006-03-23 Thread John Ervine
Chuck Landenberger wrote: John, Your website is great.. Can relate to the pix of the 300SD.. Glad you like it! Any idea what the silhouettes of vehicles on the driver's door mean? Just curious.. Honestly, I was laughing too hard to make it across the road to check it