Re: [MBZ] can some one help on coolant in 190E

2007-05-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Quotes page. http://www.okiebenz.com/quotes/index.htm Jim Cathey wrote: have sufficient anti-corrosive reserve for use in MB engines, or for the 5 year life expected of Dex-Cool. The 5-year expected life for Death Cool is for the _engine_, not the coolant.

Re: [MBZ] OT: Toyota Turbo Diesel

2007-05-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 5/29/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Both Subaru and I think Jeep make RHD vehicles specifically for sale to folks with contract rural postal routes. Our own postman drives a RHD Subaru. Well not so much make them for that purpose -- they

Re: [MBZ] Question for list about 300TD fixer

2007-05-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
87's. Got the guy down to 3k for the one. Kevin J. Slater wrote: 87's? Or are we talking W123's? Kaleb C. Striplin said: Yea, it would have been worth 5-600, its WAY too much right now considering a guy has 2 of them he wants me to buy, $2500 for one and $3500 for the other. Both run and

Re: [MBZ] got a used but good AC compressor for a W123?

2007-05-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have them available, see the link at the bottom of each message. Zach wrote: I am looking to resurrect the AC in my 79 wagon, anyone have a used but known good Delco-style AC compressor for a W123? Preferably in the Seattle/Tacoma/Olympia/Portland area? -Zach

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If you have to swap the actual schrader valve, you will have to drain the system first. Levi Smith wrote: Hmm, ok anyone happen to know if there's any particular size to the low side of that R134 in my 83' 300D? I started calling a couple auto parts places and they are telling me that there

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage

2007-05-30 Thread Mitch Haley
John Robbins wrote: They were riding basically on the white line to let the few cars they did see have plenty of room. So they did everything right to be good safe bicyclists and avoid getting in a wreck. Thanks for sharing, I had wondered what happened for you to have lost such a young

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage

2007-05-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Oh man, Im extremely surprised and sorry to hear that. Thats just unbelievable. The times have has seen you two she seemed like a very nice person. You will be in my thoughts. Kaleb John Robbins wrote: My wife passed away at the beginning of this month while she was road bicycling... She

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage

2007-05-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I am sorry to hear about that as well. Drivers are just plain insane. I am still in shock about John's wife. I know they have not even been married that long. I just saw them, what a couple of months ago? BillR wrote: Kevin - I surprised my wife with a scooter for Christmas two years ago.

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers

2007-05-30 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Tue, 29 May 2007 17:57:29 -0500, R wrote: Please bear in mind that folks who drive larger vehicles have some difficulty in safely passing you in traffic. I have had a Suburban and now a couple of F150's. I don't want to clip some poor cyclist with my mirror while trying to

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread BillR
Levi - I don't know much about such things, but I do know there is a valve that fits over the bad one without replacing it. One of the mechanic types on the list could probably tell you if you can do it without losing the gas, but I am pretty sure you can. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 290k

[MBZ] Clutch on a York Compressor

2007-05-30 Thread Bob Rentfro
I can change out the clutch on a York compressor, right? The compresor works when is switched on but the clutch is rattly and noisy when the compressor is off. Is this task covered in the manual? So...when I start twisting wrenches tomorrow I get to fix the ACcompressor clutch, rebuild the

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Mitch Haley
What kind of R134 connectors do you have? The ones with their own schrader valves, or the ones that fit over the R12 service connector and have a little pushrod to open the original schrader valve? If the latter, can you fix the leak by removing the adapter (or was it coated in permanent

Re: [MBZ] Clutch on a York Compressor

2007-05-30 Thread LarryT
Do you have a replacement clutch? I found one in my shed today when cleaning it out -- Make you a deal - ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info

[MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Royce Engler
I drove by my Indy's shop the other day and saw a 420SEL sitting out front with $5500 and Sweet painted on the windshield. Called him today about some work I'm thinking about doing on the 300TD and asked him about the SEL. I thought he said it was an '87, and has about 230K on it. It supposedly

Re: [MBZ] water in Seattle

2007-05-30 Thread RELNGSON
Heavens no!  Roger is blessed to live in the great northwet where  water is never an issue. He just goes out to the rain barrel and  scoops up a bucket for all his water needs.  Since it rains 13 out of  12 months in Seattle, he has no use for potable water.  Except maybe  to wash the blue

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Go with your heart. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Royce Engler Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 9:19 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] HeresyI'm

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel

2007-05-30 Thread Royce Engler
On 5/29/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife passed away at the beginning of this month while she was road bicycling... John, I am so sorry for your loss. Please know that we'll remember you and your wife in our prayers. Royce Engler

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Ralph Morton
--- Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go with your heart. And your wallet, in the event the cams need replacement (a common issue in these engines.) RM Be a better Globetrotter. Get

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Sunil Hari
how long do the gasser engines last? if it's a car that you'll look back and say, I -wish- I'd bought that! you've got to buy it. Cars come and go, but regret lasts a looong time. I'm still regretting not buying a particular wagon 1.5 years ago. On 5/29/07, Ralph Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread John Freer
I can come up with 3 items Royce, 1. Timing chain 2. Timing chain 3. Timing chain My apologies to the real estate industry. On 5/29/07, Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I drove by my Indy's shop the other day and saw a 420SEL sitting out front with $5500 and Sweet painted on the

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Allan Streib
Personally I think 230K is a lot of miles for a gasoline engine. I don't know specifically how they compare to the diesels for longevity. of course a lot depends on the maintenance history. Remember it will take premium ga$oline. Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I drove by my Indy's

[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2007-05-30 Thread Tom Hargrave
Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:22 PM To: Weekly Highway Diesel Prices Subject: Today's Diesel Prices ** ** **

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Ralph Morton
--- Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I think 230K is a lot of miles for a gasoline engine. I don't know specifically how they compare to the diesels for longevity. of course a lot depends on the maintenance history. Remember it will take premium ga$oline. The M117

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
well, lets see, for the same price, you can buy my '90 with WAY fewer miles on it. It will have the updated interior, updated sound system, updated tranny and so forth.

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
actually, the 420 has the m116 engine. Ralph Morton wrote: --- Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I think 230K is a lot of miles for a gasoline engine. I don't know specifically how they compare to the diesels for longevity. of course a lot depends on the maintenance history.

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Ralph Morton
Ooops. You are correct. The issues apply to the M116, not M117. RM --- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: actually, the 420 has the m116 engine. Ralph Morton wrote: --- Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally I think 230K is a lot of miles for a gasoline engine.

Re: [MBZ] M117 in W123

2007-05-30 Thread tom savage
andrew strasfogel wrote: Wonder what country has such cheap labor that this restoration makes economic sense? Croatia. From what I understand he bought the donor 500SE only to find out it had Bosnian papers and couldn't be registered, so he decided to build the car of his dreams instead.

Re: [MBZ] water in Seattle

2007-05-30 Thread Redghost
What!?! You are paying for that stuff that just falls from the sky all day every day? Get thee down to Magnuson park for some of the rain barrels and set yourself up. Cisterns and all allow me to wash Gump with vintage water and I then reclaim it to use in the throne room. From there it

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Yes there was a bad batch of cams that found it's way into the Merc V8's but I am pretty sure given the mileage that it is either not one of the affected ones or has been replaced. - Original Message - From: Ralph Morton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] water in Seattle

2007-05-30 Thread Rich Thomas
Sounds like that beer y'all make out that way. --R Redghost wrote: What!?! You are paying for that stuff that just falls from the sky all day every day? Get thee down to Magnuson park for some of the rain barrels and set yourself up. Cisterns and all allow me to wash Gump with vintage

Re: [MBZ] Clutch on a York Compressor

2007-05-30 Thread Bob Rentfro
I don't have a replacement yetyours available? Is it it viable? Bob R. - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 6:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch on a York Compressor Do you have a

[MBZ] Right of way

2007-05-30 Thread RELNGSON
Interesting you mention this. Just yesterday, I must admit, I did not notice one of these little signs posted at the right edge of the bike trail. And I was upset that two cars did not yield to me. I honestly did not think they had the right of way to cross into the straight-line path of

[MBZ] You think we love our Benzes....

2007-05-30 Thread Chuck Landenberger
Hey guys. We love our Benzes, but take a look at these guys... http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/S...50/lebanon.htm Take care and appreciate all we have, Chuck Phoenix AZ

Re: [MBZ] Right of way

2007-05-30 Thread Zoltan Finks
Okay, I'll do all that. Thanks, RLE. Brian On 5/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting you mention this. Just yesterday, I must admit, I did not notice one of these little signs posted at the right edge of the bike trail. And I was upset that two cars did not yield

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Jeff Zedic
I'd buy Kaleb's car if I were you. Remember, it'll have the lifetime waranty on it! All the free spares you can handle! Jeff Zedic

Re: [MBZ] water in Seattle

2007-05-30 Thread BillR
This discussion is reminding me why I like my deep well and backup generator for hurricanes. No water or sewer bill, except for the every 5 years or so pump out bill. BillR Jacksonville FL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Levi Smith
Hmm... Dunno, I don't know what R12 connectors are like. There's a dust cap that screws on to a pop-on coupling that works with any of the R134 refill kits. It *looks* like that's part of the pipe... But for all I know, perhaps it's somehow threaded onto a smaller piece on the pipe? This is

Re: [MBZ] Gasser Heresy

2007-05-30 Thread Dan Weeks
Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anybody have any thoughts about why I shouldn't jump on this one? (other than the fact that it's NOT a diesel...) Royce Engler '85 300TD 298K Uh, because you could buy Don Snook's 300SEL with less than half the miles for less? My indy drives

Re: [MBZ] Gasser Heresy

2007-05-30 Thread Mike Canfield
Sounds like an awful lot of good reasons to not buy that car to me and I haven't even seen it. Mike - Original Message - From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gasser Heresy Royce Engler [EMAIL

Re: [MBZ] water in Seattle

2007-05-30 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
You're paying for it??? I'd think you'd be able to wring enough water out of your clothes to run the house there :-) I lived in WA for a few years, couldn't take the constant liquid sunshine. Never had to water anything though. -Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heavens no! Roger is

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Jim Cathey
Hmm... Dunno, I don't know what R12 connectors are like. They look an awful lot like a big-brother version of your basic tire valve stem. (The metal part.) It *looks* like that's part of the pipe... But for all I know, perhaps it's somehow threaded onto a smaller piece on the pipe?

Re: [MBZ] water in Seattle

2007-05-30 Thread Jim Cathey
I lived in WA for a few years, couldn't take the constant liquid sunshine. Never had to water anything though. Not exactly true of the (much larger) dry eastern part of the State. The center is a nice dry sagebrush near-desert. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Allan Streib
In an R12 system converted to R134a, I've heard that the service port adapter fittings are permanently installed. Is this done with threadlocker? Could they be removed to do a reverse conversion, e.g. by using heat? Allan Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hmm... Dunno, I don't know what

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Jim Cathey
In an R12 system converted to R134a, I've heard that the service port adapter fittings are permanently installed. Is this done with threadlocker? Could they be removed to do a reverse conversion, e.g. by using heat? Yup. And the cheapies don't even really need that. I've removed a connector

Re: [MBZ] Clutch on a York Compressor

2007-05-30 Thread LarryT
Yep, it worked when I removed it. I thought it was the problem and replaced it - when I opened it up I found the little wire running behind it was chafed they and needed to be replaced - but I'll open the box and take a look at it to be sure it's useable. They are pretty basic - very seldom

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Levi Smith
So, then there are actually TWO shrader valves, one on top of the other? Or is the R12 one removed from the inside, then this R134 with shrader fitted to the outside? Or is the R12 Shrader still there and this is just an outer fitting? Levi On 5/30/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread LarryT
A gas engine will eat you out of house home. They constantly need *something* - no matter how nice or how well maintained. Let them get a little behind on maintanence and thangs can get ugly (financially speaking) pretty fast. I had a few gas MBs and all were the same. $25 for this, $100

Re: [MBZ] Gasser Heresy

2007-05-30 Thread BillR
You really should bite your tongue. Not that I can buy it until my disability suit gets settled. I was told SS would be the hard one to get, but they came through the first time [I just fit the criterion]. It is the company disability policy that is giving me problems. BillR -Original

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-30 Thread Rich Thomas
That's energy not momentum. --R Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2007 14:04:42 -0500 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe roll cages and restraints are the answer, though m1v1=m2v2 still applies? It's an inelastic collision, so what applies is, 12

Re: [MBZ] Clutch on a York Compressor

2007-05-30 Thread Bob Rentfro
SOLD! Let me know off list where to send the moola and I 'll give you my address. Thanks. Bob R. - Original Message - From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 6:31 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Clutch on a York

Re: [MBZ] You think we love our Benzes....

2007-05-30 Thread andrew strasfogel
For some reason the link sent me to a Yahoo page with the message Sorry the page you requested was not found On 5/30/07, Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys. We love our Benzes, but take a look at these guys... http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/S...50/lebanon.htm

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Bob Rentfro
Larry T typed: gas engine will eat you out of house home. They constantly need *something* - no matter how nice or how well maintained. Let them get a little behind on maintanence and thangs can get ugly (financially speaking) pretty fast. I had a few gas MBs and all were the same. $25

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Jim Cathey
So, then there are actually TWO shrader valves, one on top of the other? No. Either you remove the one in the R12 fitting before you put on an R134a fitting that has its own, or the R134a fitting has an extension to push the button on the R12's valve. The latter is a pita because when/if the

[MBZ] Awl

2007-05-30 Thread Jim Cathey
For the first time ever I've seen M1 15W50 at our Costco! They usually have two other weights (green and blue boxes), but this time they also had the red boxes. $30 for six quarts. I didn't buy any, but I did buy 6 gallons of Delo last time. -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Allan Streib
Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, then there are actually TWO shrader valves, one on top of the other? Or is the R12 one removed from the inside, then this R134 with shrader fitted to the outside? Or is the R12 Shrader still there and this is just an outer fitting? As I recall, the

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Jim Cathey
Also I believe the high side and low side valves are different, to prevent consumers from accidentally connecting a recharge can to the high side. This was possible in R12 systems and led to injuries as the can would explode under pressure. This was possible in _some_ R12 systems, but some

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread John M McIntosh
On May 30, 2007, at 6:41 AM, LarryT wrote: That may not be a problem for you - and a big gas W126 is unequalled in comfort and security on the open road (unless you find a W140) - but just be prepared for a healthy maintanence program Oddly enough my w140 is having it's 60K mile/92K km

Re: [MBZ] Clutch on a York Compressor

2007-05-30 Thread LarryT
Hi Bob, I checked it and it looks fine. Don;t know if you have ever held one and seen how they go together and come apart - everything is magnetism - and there's one wire that goes to the center of the unit and when power is applied, the 2 pieceslock together magnetically. Remove the

Re: [MBZ] Distilled water here and there

2007-05-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Tue, 29 May 2007 11:12:18 -0400 Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pure distilled water is not electrolytic, but it is a rather good solvent and it will tend to pull minerals from the aluminum alloys in the head. And DI water is even worse! Craig

Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage

2007-05-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Wed, 30 May 2007 09:04:39 -0500 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's energy not momentum. --R Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sun, 27 May 2007 14:04:42 -0500 Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe roll cages and restraints are the answer, though m1v1=m2v2 still

Re: [MBZ] OT Road Bicycling and Walking Vs. Drivers_was Fuel mileage

2007-05-30 Thread Craig McCluskey
John, We are so sorry for your loss. We will be praying for you. Craig Shirley McCluskey Los Alamos, NM

Re: [MBZ] You think we love our Benzes....

2007-05-30 Thread Mitch Haley
andrew strasfogel wrote: For some reason the link sent me to a Yahoo page with the message Sorry the page you requested was not found Somehow he copied the shortened displayed text instead of the link itself: See the ellipsis here? There's probably another 50 characters missing:

Re: [MBZ] Leaking R134 valve

2007-05-30 Thread Russ Williams
Levi, R-12 connectors look like a Tire Stem welded to the pipe. When R-12 to R-134 conversions are done the R-134 adapter is screwed on top of the R-12 connector. Some of the 134 adapters have Red Lock-Tite (Stud Bearing) on the threads making it hard to remove the 134 adapter. But it can be

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread LarryT
You wrote:Given the car is 15 years old I thought it was wise to check all that piping for issues. That's a very wise decision. Thise kinds of things - where hoses, etc are hidden from view and can leak and you;ll never know its leaking. Then some expensive damage happens. Larry T (67

Re: [MBZ] Gasser Heresy

2007-05-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
after driving a 420, you would not want a 300, it would feel like a 240D Dan Weeks wrote: Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anybody have any thoughts about why I shouldn't jump on this one? (other than the fact that it's NOT a diesel...) Royce Engler '85 300TD 298K Uh, because

Re: [MBZ] Heresy....I'm looking at a gasser.

2007-05-30 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have not really found that to be the case with the gas engines I have had. LarryT wrote: A gas engine will eat you out of house home. They constantly need *something* - no matter how nice or how well maintained. Let them get a little behind on maintanence and thangs can get ugly