Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy most important

2012-08-19 Thread Fmiser
[Fmiser wrote:] ...Sounds about like my S123.  I use - well, I make the _kids_ use - the rear facing seat.  None of them really like it.  But the gasoline Suburban is pricey to drive compared to the 300TD. relng...@aol.com wrote: So then, what would happen to them in case of a rear

Re: [MBZ] Not a haggis fan

2012-08-19 Thread Gerry Archer
...Roger must be a Scot. Gerrypart Scot.. I'm a Norwegian. Pass the herring. RLE Out of herring. How about some lutefisk? [:o) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lutefisk#Humor Gerry...who has never eaten lutefisk, has eaten Vietnamese nuoc mam, but won't do it again.

Re: [MBZ] GL pricing and fixing and shifting Whitworth

2012-08-19 Thread Max Dillon
I nominate this for the quotes page, Kaleb: -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote: In Australia it is necessary to shorten words as much as possible, due to the numerous flies. Plus it's hard to talk and drink beer at the same time, made even

Re: [MBZ] Fuel economy most important

2012-08-19 Thread Max Dillon
Roger, When you were a child, did your parents make you sit buckled into a child seat or a booster seat? Somehow I doubt it. Times have changed quite a bit. My siblings and I were NEVER buckled in, family never owned baby seat, child or booster seat. None of us died or was even seriously

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid

2012-08-19 Thread WILTON
Yes, it was blue. Thanks, but please don't bother with it, though, unless you find it to be very simple, straight forward and easy to get the springs. According to Service Manual CD, it appears to be significantly more involved to RR the hinges than I care to mess with right now. 'Don't know

Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid

2012-08-19 Thread Rich Thomas
Don't they just bolt on to the body up under there? Or is a bracket welded in? Not at home to go look at a car so I don't know and don't recall. -R On 8/19/2012 11:55 AM, WILTON wrote: Yes, it was blue. Thanks, but please don't bother with it, though, unless you find it to be very simple,

[MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-19 Thread WILTON
Test Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-19 Thread Russ Williams
Receiving You 5 by 5 On 8/19/2012 12:50, WILTON wrote: Test Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-19 Thread WILTON
Test went thru, but my response to Rich re. 126 trunk lid did not. Whasup? Wilton - Original Message - From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Receiving You 5 by

[MBZ] 126 trunk lid

2012-08-19 Thread WILTON
- Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: 126 trunk lid They're bolted. Jobs 68-449 remove rear side panel covers; 68-458 remove hat rack; 68-480 remove trunk

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-19 Thread WILTON
Second posting of 126 trunk lid response went thru; anybody first one? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Test went thru, but my response

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-19 Thread WILTON
Anybody SEE the first one, that is? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Second posting of 126 trunk lid response went thru; anybody first

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-19 Thread Russ Williams
Nope On 8/19/2012 13:05, WILTON wrote: Anybody SEE the first one, that is? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Second posting of 126 trunk

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
All your emails are coming through. Quit worrying so much. WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com writes: Second posting of 126 trunk lid response went thru; anybody first one? Wilton -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

[MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
Want to change out the coolant in our '03 Focus before winter. I've found some postings that say it's a simple drain/fill operation, others talk about extreme difficulty getting air purged and subsequent random overheating. Any Focus owners (Dan?) done this? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-19 Thread Max Dillon
Did not see first one. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Anybody SEE the first one, that is? Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:00

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Yup. Pretty straightforward as far as I found. Drain the radiator from the bottom drain (plastic - ugh! flush with clear water several times and then refill with the proper Ford gold coolant. I never had a problem with air pockets or overheating. This has been done on both of my Focuses by

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
Good to hear, thanks. Off to the garage BTW I'm going to use G-05 for the refill, I think it's Ford approved and nice to only have to stock one type for the MB and Ford. Allan Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: Yup. Pretty straightforward as far as I found. Drain the radiator from

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Glad to be of assistance. I used the Ford stuff because I had a couple of gallons left over from my former Crown Vic. Dan On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:45 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Good to hear, thanks. Off to the garage BTW I'm going to use G-05 for the refill, I think it's Ford approved and

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-19 Thread WILTON
Me, either. That's the point. Thanks. Wilton - Original Message - From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2012 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lost again? Did not see first one. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
Well nothing is ever *easy* is it? I drained the system, filled with water to flush, and warmed up the engine. Once it had reached operating temp I turned it off and discovered that the thermostat gasket leaks under pressure. That would explain the slow coolant loss I've observed on this car in

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Peter Hertzing
Go with new. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Well nothing is ever *easy* is it? I drained the system, filled with water to flush, and warmed up the engine. Once it had reached operating temp I turned it off and discovered that

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
A bit of reaseach indicates that this plastic water outlet/thermostat housing is prone to cracking/leaking on the Ford Zetec. So I'm betting that's my problem, for a $50 part I'm not going to risk just changing the gasket. Allan Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes: Well nothing is ever

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Max Dillon
I change thermostats every other coolant change. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote: Go with new. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Well nothing is ever *easy* is it? I drained

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-19 Thread Craig
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 12:53:55 -0500 Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net wrote: Receiving You 5 by 5 Shouldn't that be 5 by 9? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes: A bit of reaseach indicates that this plastic water outlet/thermostat housing is prone to cracking/leaking on the Ford Zetec. So I'm betting that's my problem, for a $50 part I'm not going to risk just changing the gasket. I ordered this

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff
I can never keep the engines straight on these things. Both of mine have the 2.3 liter 4. Is that the Zetec, or is it the 2.0 liter? Dan On Aug 19, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Allan Streib wrote: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu writes: A bit of reaseach indicates that this plastic water

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
Mine is a 2003 SE (wagon) which has the 2.0 Zetec DOHC. Allan Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: I can never keep the engines straight on these things. Both of mine have the 2.3 liter 4. Is that the Zetec, or is it the 2.0 liter? Dan On Aug 19, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Allan Streib wrote:

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Interesting - I went in and looked at the part for both my 2004 and 2005 (both 2.3l engine) and it looks identical but it's a different vendor and a heck of a lot more expensive. Mine are a 2004 ZTW wagon and a 2005 ZX5. Maybe they redesigned it if they were having problems? Dan On Aug 19,

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
According to wikipedia in 2004 Ford switched over to design based on the Mazda MZR engine for its I4 engines. These were given the name Duratec and were made with varying displacements including the 2.3. The Zetec line I think was never bigger than a 2.0l except the diesel Zetec TDCi went up to

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
One other thing I noticed... when you drain the system from the radiator petcock, you get about 1 gallon out; the cooling system capacity is 6 quarts, so there's still 2 quarts left in there somewhere. Meaning if you want to do a really complete change of coolant, you'll need to do a few

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Dan Penoff
That's what I did. I usually drain as completely as possible, fill with tap water, drive for a short while with the heater on, cool, drain and refill again, drive, cool and drain. Sort of a lather, rinse, repeat thing. I'll also refill with straight AF and check the concentration, since I

Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Focus coolant change

2012-08-19 Thread Allan Streib
Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com writes: I'll also refill with straight AF and check the concentration, since I know there will be a fair amount of water left in the system. Yeah that is my approach as well. Once I feel that there is more or less straight water left in the system, I'll add half

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-19 Thread Max Dillon
5 by 5 refers to signal strength (how loud on a scale of 1 to 5) and clarity, meaning loud and clear. 1 by 1 would mean can hear that you're transmitting but can't understand you. What would 9 mean? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sun,

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-19 Thread Rich Thomas
He should turn it up to 11 --R On 8/19/2012 7:49 PM, Max Dillon wrote: 5 by 5 refers to signal strength (how loud on a scale of 1 to 5) and clarity, meaning loud and clear. 1 by 1 would mean can hear that you're transmitting but can't understand you. What would 9 mean?

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-19 Thread Rick Knoble
On Aug 19, 2012, at 6:53 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: He should turn it up to 11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UeOXsA8sp_Efeature=youtube_gdata_player Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] on topic 300td

2012-08-19 Thread andrew strasfogel
If they are hideously expensive new, as I suspect, I would simply purchase several used ones. What's involved in the R/R of the rear SLS valve? On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Sounds like it. When the car is at the proper height, the valve should be

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-19 Thread Craig
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:49:23 -0400 Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: 5 by 5 refers to signal strength (how loud on a scale of 1 to 5) and clarity, meaning loud and clear. 1 by 1 would mean can hear that you're transmitting but can't understand you. What would 9 mean? See

Re: [MBZ] Lost again?

2012-08-19 Thread Craig
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 21:19:25 -0600 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: T = TONE 1 -- Sixty cycle a.c. or less, very rough and broad 2 -- Very rough a.c. , very harsh and broad 3 -- Rough a.c. tone, rectified but not filtered 4 -- Rough note, some trace of filtering 5 -- Filtered rectified

Re: [MBZ] occupying the 3rd row.

2012-08-19 Thread RELNGSON
So then, what would happen to them in case of a rear end collision is of no concern. Huh?  Of course what happens to them in a rear-end collision is of concern.  But why limit the discussion to only that one kind? What would happen to them in a T-bone accident?  I suspect they would be better

Re: [MBZ] occupying the 3rd row.

2012-08-19 Thread Dieselhead
About ten years ago near here on I-405 one of those longbody Econoline passenger vans with four rows was caught in a sandwich crash between two semis and caught fire. Those in the rear were incinerated, alive. RLE RLE people are regularly burned to death or worse in modern gassers made by