[MBZ] Glows

2012-10-29 Thread Hans Neureiter
My old 300SD became hesitant to start lately. Lots of smoke for the first minute or so. No Preglow light. Tested the plugs and found #1 dead. I attempted to change all the plugs but gave up after #1 (Light comes on again). I removed the fuel lines between the delivery valves and injectors but

Re: [MBZ] Glows

2012-10-29 Thread Scott Ritchey
Long time ago, but I changed mine (82 300SD) without removing any coolant lines, as I recall. Also be sure to clean out the carbon in the hole before installing new glow plugs. The glow control may (or may not) be working without the light. The light is for the driver and is somewhat

Re: [MBZ] Glows

2012-10-29 Thread Rich Thomas
Get a ratcheting wrench (GearWrench) to get those GPs out. It is fiddly and you will scrape your fingers but it is doable but Not Fun. --R On 10/29/12 9:21 AM, Scott Ritchey wrote: Long time ago, but I changed mine (82 300SD) without removing any coolant lines, as I recall. Also be sure to

Re: [MBZ] OT Thirsty Pilot

2012-10-29 Thread G Mann
Good flight planning... always crash close to a bar... if you live, you need a good stiff drink.. if you don't, the wake can get started early... Now,, why didn't I think of that.. looking on sectional chart for liquor license symbol... h... there is none. Have to bring that to FAA

Re: [MBZ] WAS OT Thirsty Pilot - NOW boat

2012-10-29 Thread Randy Bennell
The bit about the FAA inspector's findings reminded me of this from a boating forum that I read. Randy I drove up stream a bit to a small dirt landing, hand lauched the boat and went about fishing for several hours. After a bit I decided to head up stream and try for some crabs, a ways

[MBZ] Two 240D questions

2012-10-29 Thread Bob Rentfro
How many dot brake fluid is correct and what do I do with a manual transmission as far as a service goes? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

Re: [MBZ] Two 240D questions

2012-10-29 Thread Craig
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:09:40 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: How many dot brake fluid is correct and what do I do with a manual transmission as far as a service goes? DOT 4. I usually buy it from Rusty. The manual transmission in a Mercedes DOES NOT use gear oil -- it uses ATF! If

Re: [MBZ] Two 240D questions

2012-10-29 Thread Bob Rentfro
Danke On Oct 29, 2012 10:17 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:09:40 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: How many dot brake fluid is correct and what do I do with a manual transmission as far as a service goes? DOT 4. I usually buy it from Rusty. The

Re: [MBZ] Two 240D questions

2012-10-29 Thread Craig
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:28:35 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: Danke Bitte. On Oct 29, 2012 10:17 AM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 10:09:40 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: How many dot brake fluid is correct and what do I do with a

Re: [MBZ] hot topic?

2012-10-29 Thread Tim C
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 6:38 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: Those speakers are unobtanium. I spent three years trying to source a new speaker with no joy. Found replacements in PnP cars. I have a few on the shelf. PO in my 115 built a metal speaker mount for a 4 or 5, it

Re: [MBZ] Two 240D questions

2012-10-29 Thread Craig
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:00:19 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: So how much ATF does it take to do a change out of a manual transmission? Not much compared to an automatic transmission. 2 or 3 quarts, IIRC, which I may not. As I mentioned earlier, my books are packed up in a storage

Re: [MBZ] 115 speakers

2012-10-29 Thread Dan Penoff
Nope. Only OEM speakers in that car were in the dash, I'm almost sure. Dan On Oct 29, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: My 76 300D has speakers mounted on the kick panels on both sides in the front. The box is black and maybe 4 square. I had assumed they were

Re: [MBZ] 115 speakers

2012-10-29 Thread Randy Bennell
On 29/10/2012 2:24 PM, Dieselhead wrote: I think those are original. The 300D was a big splash back in 1976. The was the first lesser class car to have stereo etc from MB. Some of the 600s may have had stereo, and maybe early 70s SELs. But the 76 was the first MB Diesel mit factory stereo in

Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-29 Thread andrew strasfogel
My 1983 and 1985 CA version 300TD wagon each get about 20 mpg around town. Why? On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote: 27 mpg road and city, both cars, '83 300D and '83 240D. Gerry From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com 240D - 30mpg highway.

Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-10-29 Thread Jon Agne
In Kew Gardens...Queens, NY.wind is now gusting 60+ and the top of a huge 100 year old oak just broke off at the 30' level and crushed a Hyundai next door. more to follow. On Oct 29, 2012, at 3:45 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: The Fed govt and private sector are all closed today in DC.

Re: [MBZ] oil changes based on time

2012-10-29 Thread OK Don
Are the museum cars expected to be able to be driven over 50 miles at the turn of the key? (I don't know - asking). FYI - lack of frequent use is one of the higher wear/risk factors for private aircraft. On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 10:34 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...So what you are saying is

Re: [MBZ] OT Thirsty Pilot

2012-10-29 Thread OK Don
Plywood and fabric is not necessarily a bad thing (Spitfire?) but the rest is highly suspect. Sounds like one of those planes that give experiment and home built planes a bad reputation. It definitely didn't get passed by a DAR. If it was under the ultralight weight limit, it was possibly legal.

Re: [MBZ] Two 240D questions

2012-10-29 Thread OK Don
Just be certain that you can remove the fill plug before removing the drain plug! On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 11:00:19 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: So how much ATF does it take to do a change out of a manual

Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-10-29 Thread WILTON
'Sounds like what we've had a lot of previously, but very benign here this time; 'hope all goes well - nobody hurt, etc. Wilton - Original Message - From: Jon Agne jonag...@gwi.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 3:52 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [MBZ] Two 240D questions

2012-10-29 Thread Craig
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:04:08 -0500 OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Just be certain that you can remove the fill plug before removing the drain plug! Excellent point! I forgot about that. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] oil changes based on time

2012-10-29 Thread Curt Raymond
No its a gas car with a belly full of acid. Whats wrong with soot? -Curt Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:34:43 -0400 (EDT) From: relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] oil changes based on time Message-ID: 26345.6aa579.3dbf5...@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain;

Re: [MBZ] Glows

2012-10-29 Thread Curt Raymond
What year? 617 engine? I did glows on my '81 300TD without removing anything. Its dammed fiddly but can be done. AFAIK no light = no glow at least at first, at some point the light goes out even though glowing may continue. -Curt Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 03:26:44 -0500 From: Hans Neureiter

Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-29 Thread Curt Raymond
My 240D rolling average is 28mpg over 120,000 miles in 2 cars. The '78 240D gets 28mpg average pretty much no matter what, it'll be interesting to see it go down a bit with bio-diesel and it'll go down to maybe 26mpg if I hold it to 85mph all day but otherwise 28mpg. I got my '83 240D as high

Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-10-29 Thread Curt Raymond
Things are just starting to ramp up as darkness falls. The rain is getting serious and the wind is starting to gust. I'm not seriously worried, we get some pretty good wind anyway. I bought a gallon of camp fuel, I usually keep 2 gallons on hand so this is just a backup, I've got 3 gallons of

Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-10-29 Thread Max Dillon
If you don't make it, I call first dibs in your wagon. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: The Fed govt and private sector are all closed today in DC. The only people working are letter carriers and grocery store personnel who drive.

Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-10-29 Thread Max Dillon
Wish more Americans were like you, I suspect in that part of the country the majority are. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300 '87 300TD Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Things are just starting to ramp up as darkness falls. The rain is getting serious and the wind is starting to

Re: [MBZ] Oil changes

2012-10-29 Thread RELNGSON
...Are the museum cars expected to be able to be driven over 50 miles at the turn of the key? (I don't know - asking). FYI - lack of frequent use is one of the higher wear/risk factors for private aircraft... I doubt it but the fifty mile example applies to my car since I want the oil

Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-10-29 Thread Randy Bennell
Remind me where you folks are. Randy On 29/10/2012 4:09 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: Things are just starting to ramp up as darkness falls. The rain is getting serious and the wind is starting to gust. I'm not seriously worried, we get some pretty good wind anyway. I bought a gallon of camp fuel,

Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-10-29 Thread Rich Thomas
Address? --R On 10/29/12 5:09 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: In a minute I'm going to roast a chicken for dinner, bake bread and cook some turkey cutlets for lunch tomorrow. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-29 Thread dblidd
I get 28 to 29 MPG on my mixed freeway/city commute in my '77 240D. (1979 drivetrain, AC removed) The way I drive it, I am surprised there is no hole in the carpet under the accelerator. David Liddell -- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:46:49 -0400 From:

Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-10-29 Thread Rich Thomas
Interestingly enough, I did not notice, nor did anyone else I know. Makes one wonder... No, correct that, my niece who works for A Government Agency had the day off, was well-provisioned for the blow, and started early. Have not heard from the boy, he probably spent the day studying anyway.

Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-29 Thread Craig
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 22:02:34 + (UTC) dbl...@comcast.net wrote: I get 28 to 29 MPG on my mixed freeway/city commute in my '77 240D. (1979 drivetrain, AC removed) The way I drive it, I am surprised there is no hole in the carpet under the accelerator. We generally get 23 MPG with our

[MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries

2012-10-29 Thread Bob Rentfro
So...opened the trunk for the first time this morning (now that I got the correct key from Rusty) and there was a car cover, a Honda jack, the correct jack on lug wrench...anyone have one?) , a spare holding air, a large chain guide (new) and a stack of owners/maintenance manuals. Looks like this

Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries

2012-10-29 Thread Dan Penoff
No rebuilding of calipers. It's not cost effective, nor is it safe to do. Buy a pair of remains from Rusty and be done with it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Oct 29, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: So...opened the trunk for the first time this morning (now that I got the

Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries

2012-10-29 Thread WILTON
Not creepy to contact former owners; 'may be more productive for you if you're quick to say that you want to thank and commend them for taking such good care of it so that you can now enjoy it. 'May help also to say that you're merely trying to gather as much of its history as you can in order

Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries

2012-10-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I agree. Shortly after I bought my 220D in 1997 I contacted the original owner. I discovered that the car had logged over 700,000 miles! Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2012, at 6:44 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Not creepy to contact former owners; 'may be more productive for you if

Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries

2012-10-29 Thread Russ Williams
I agree and get NEW brake Hoses while you are at it. On 10/29/2012 17:23, Dan Penoff wrote: No rebuilding of calipers. It's not cost effective, nor is it safe to do. Buy a pair of remains from Rusty and be done with it. Dan Sent from my iPad On Oct 29, 2012, at 6:12 PM, Bob Rentfro

Re: [MBZ] 115 speakers

2012-10-29 Thread Peter Frederick
They are original. At least the ones in my brother's car were. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-10-29 Thread Peter Frederick
My sister and brother in law are stuck in LA until Wed. at 11 pm -- were supposed to get home this morning, I think. They live just off the GW Parkway a few miles north of Mt. Vernon. Hopefully the house won't wash down the street, and they won't have the power out for ages like they did

Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-10-29 Thread Dieselhead
To bad you don't have a coleman stove and a lantern... Things are just starting to ramp up as darkness falls. The rain is getting serious and the wind is starting to gust. I'm not seriously worried, we get some pretty good wind anyway. I bought a gallon of camp fuel, I usually keep 2 gallons

Re: [MBZ] W123 MPG

2012-10-29 Thread Michael Canfield
I love my 83 300d! Just got back from a trip to Rochester and back. 160 gps miles, 5.35 gallons of fuel comes to 29.9mpg driving like I stole it. It has NA gears in the rear so it comes off the line pretty well but really turns some rpm's(tach doesn't work) at 75 and 80mph but runs along smooth as

Re: [MBZ] OT: 03 Ford Focus wheel bearing or tie rod?

2012-10-29 Thread Allan Streib
More details after a bit more inspection Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net writes: Do the normal checks -- straight in and out play at the bearing is the bearing None. in and out play on an unloaded (jackstand under the control arm) is probably ball joint or maybe loose strut

Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-10-29 Thread Michael Canfield
Everyone in the NE has a Coleman stove and lantern.Don't we? Mike On Oct 29, 2012 7:29 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: To bad you don't have a coleman stove and a lantern... Things are just starting to ramp up as darkness falls. The rain is getting serious and the wind is

Re: [MBZ] 115 speakers

2012-10-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I have had and seen several 115 with that Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: My 76 300D has speakers mounted on the kick panels on both sides in the front. The box is black and maybe 4 square. I had assumed they were original but

Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-10-29 Thread Michael Canfield
Wind is pretty strong here in Burdett, NY. Been pouring rain for a few hours. Time to go sit by the woodstove and watch tv with the kids until the power goes out. Mike On Oct 29, 2012 7:29 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: To bad you don't have a coleman stove and a lantern...

Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-10-29 Thread Dieselhead
Interestingly enough, I did not notice, nor did anyone else I know. Makes one wonder... No, correct that, my niece who works for A Government Agency had the day off, was well-provisioned for the blow, and started early. Have not heard from the boy, he probably spent the day studying anyway.

Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries

2012-10-29 Thread Dieselhead
I second buying new hoses. I agree and get NEW brake Hoses while you are at it. On 10/29/2012 17:23, Dan Penoff wrote: No rebuilding of calipers. It's not cost effective, nor is it safe to do. Buy a pair of remains from Rusty and be done with it. Dan

Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-10-29 Thread Fmiser
Curt wrote: ... I put the battery charger on my 110ah battery that will run lights and laptops, it was charged, which reminds me I should put it on my spare group 49 battery, suspenders and belt after all. The woodstove is lit, the wood room is about 3/4 full, the outside

Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-10-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Yes. No stove though. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:48 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: Everyone in the NE has a Coleman stove and lantern.Don't we? Mike On Oct 29, 2012 7:29 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: To bad you don't have a coleman stove and a

Re: [MBZ] OT: 03 Ford Focus wheel bearing or tie rod?

2012-10-29 Thread Dan Penoff
BT. Wrong. I have two of them, both well north of 150k and both have been excellent cars from a operating and maintenance standpoint. I did have to drop a chunk of change for a rear trailing arm that was bent, but I don't consider that a defect or maintenance expense - I must have hit a

Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries

2012-10-29 Thread Dan Penoff
I contacted the daughter of the (deceased) former owner of my 1962 300SE, and it was a real treat. She had lots of fond memories of her dad and the car, and was excited to know that it was being cared for by someone who appreciated what it was. She also gave me a lot of insight into how it

Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries

2012-10-29 Thread Curt Raymond
Meaning you need a jack? Strangely I just found the one from my '83 240D. Need to bring it inside and lube it up but it should work fine. -Curt Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:12:02 -0700 From: Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] My Beater

Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-10-29 Thread Curt Raymond
Its rough... Fortunately we got all through dinner and the first episode of Sherlock (excellent!) on Amazon Prime with no loss of power. The sump pump did decide not to play and as its raining very hard there is rather a lot of water in the basement. The pump would work but wouldn't cycle on

Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-10-29 Thread Curt Raymond
Bit of an in-joke with Loren, I have 9 or 10 stoves (it can be hard to keep count) and around 30 lanterns. I'd posted a youtube video of the 52 Week Coleman Challenge some time ago. I forget whom but somebody didn't seem to realize it was me... -Curt Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 19:48:38 -0400 From:

Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries

2012-10-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Do you still have the 300SE? It's a coupe right? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2012, at 9:38 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I contacted the daughter of the (deceased) former owner of my 1962 300SE, and it was a real treat. She had lots of fond memories of her dad and the car, and was

Re: [MBZ] OT: 03 Ford Focus wheel bearing or tie rod?

2012-10-29 Thread Rick Knoble
On Oct 29, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I did have to drop a chunk of change for a rear trailing arm that was bent, but I don't consider that a defect or maintenance expense - I must have hit a pothole or something really hard and just not realized it. If you have

Re: [MBZ] OT: 03 Ford Focus wheel bearing or tie rod?

2012-10-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
You better believe it. My brother was driving a BMW in college. He and some friends decided to see how high the car would fly over a hill. The car took up air and crashed landed Dukes of Hazard style. He cracked the finned cast aluminum oil pan and lost all oil on the street. Had car towed and

Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries

2012-10-29 Thread Dan Penoff
No. It was a W112 sedan with a M189 engine in it and air suspension. My all time favorite MB. It had a really cool history: It was purchased new in San Francisco by a nuclear physicist who was on the faculty at Berkeley. He owned it up to his death sometime in the mid 1990s. He died

Re: [MBZ] OT: 03 Ford Focus wheel bearing or tie rod?

2012-10-29 Thread Dan Penoff
Nope. Totally on my watch - no one else has ever driven the car but me. If I thought I would have had the time to do the work myself I would have. Crappy formed steel part was $500 from Ford. Talk about getting boned by the stealership. Dan On Oct 29, 2012, at 10:33 PM, Dimitri Seretakis

Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries

2012-10-29 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
That is a nice story. Those cars are very rare. I've only seen one on the roads. Always wanted one along with the LWB 123 or 115. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 29, 2012, at 10:40 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: No. It was a W112 sedan with a M189 engine in it and air suspension. My all

Re: [MBZ] Sandy

2012-10-29 Thread Dieselhead
Bit of an in-joke with Loren, I have 9 or 10 stoves (it can be hard to keep count) and around 30 lanterns. I'd posted a youtube video of the 52 Week Coleman Challenge some time ago. I forget whom but somebody didn't seem to realize it was me... -Curt Yep. Bummer about the sump pump. That

Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries

2012-10-29 Thread Dieselhead
I contacted the daughter of the (deceased) former owner of my 1962 300SE, and it was a real treat. She had lots of fond memories of her dad and the car, and was excited to know that it was being cared for by someone who appreciated what it was. She also gave me a lot of insight into how it

Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries

2012-10-29 Thread Dieselhead
That is a nice story. Those cars are very rare. I've only seen one on the roads. Always wanted one along with the LWB 123 or 115. Sent from my iPhone I always thought it was a great car. The 300SE coupe with the rounded off fins is even more beautiful, and to me one of the all time best

Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries

2012-10-29 Thread Bob Rentfro
I have the jack, no lug wrench. Bob R On Oct 29, 2012 6:44 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Meaning you need a jack? Strangely I just found the one from my '83 240D. Need to bring it inside and lube it up but it should work fine. -Curt Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:12:02 -0700

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-29 Thread clay monroe
Fluid and filters need to be changed. No use running fresh fluid through a nasty filter Fresh standard ATF will help flush gunk out. Not as good as synth, but a short shot of synth will allow you to change to longer periods. clay On Oct 27, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Alan Clarke wrote: Doesn't

Re: [MBZ] My Beater 240D Discoveries

2012-10-29 Thread Craig
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:26:13 -0700 Bob Rentfro azbob...@gmail.com wrote: I have the jack, no lug wrench. I have an extra W124 lug wrench around here. Someplace. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Bio-Diesel

2012-10-29 Thread clay monroe
seller is a criminal. Well, more a profiteer. There is a feedstock variability, but if he is going through his tanks that quickly, he should invest in another location to feed the demand. Around PNW, the price fluctuates depending on cost of processing. Sometimes #2 is a bit less,