Re: [MBZ] central locking system - '87 300SDL

2014-07-12 Thread Ralph Robertson
My problem seems to be much more of an electrical issue than just the locking vacuum pump. I replaced the pump with a used one but the fuse blew again. Then disconnected the electrical antennae, but it blew again. Then I did the same with the trunk light, and the front overhead lights, but in

Re: [MBZ] Similar Note - my 91 300D runing warmer -- **Was** Hot under the collar

2014-07-12 Thread LarryT
Thanks Peter - will check it today! ;-) Larry On 7/11/2014 11:44 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: The fan must be stiff when cold and spin at engine speed when started, then immediately slow down. It must also pull with significant air flow at idle with the engine hot enough to engage it (about 85

Re: [MBZ] central locking system - '87 300SDL

2014-07-12 Thread Meade Dillon
Broken wire in one of the door accordion covers? I'm talking about the door hinge area, where the wires exit the body and enter the door. All the flexing that occurs there will eventually break wires. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Jul 12, 2014 6:18 AM, Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] central locking system - '87 300SDL

2014-07-12 Thread Peter Frederick
No, the timer relay for the interior lights is bad. Probably sucks the battery flat if the car isn't run daily as well. Also check the wiring for the trunk light, it's notorious for rubbing through at the deck lid hinge and intermittenly shorting out. Don't keep sticking fuses in, the

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2014-07-12 Thread Curt Raymond
Keeping expenses low is the way to be and not keeping up with the Joneses is the way to do that. A modest life is all I need. -Curt From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 6:16

[MBZ] New address for Mitch

2014-07-12 Thread Mitchell Haley EA
In case anybody cares, my address of the last 17 years @voyager.net is irretrievably lost, so now I'm mi...@mitchellhaley.com Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2014-07-12 Thread OK Don
Several of our kids are in a transition phase, So I've been sending them helpful (?) decision making info. These are a few. Yes, I know, the methodology used is highly subjective and suspect . . . *Quality-of-life laggards* There are many ideal places around the country to raise a family, get a

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2014-07-12 Thread Mitchell Haley EA
Randy Bennell wrote: I would think that the more socialist the government, then the better it is for the poor. In the same way that the more people hand food to the bears, the better it is for the bears? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] central locking system - '87 300SDL

2014-07-12 Thread Ralph Robertson
Re the interior lights, I had put the switch for the interior lights in the off position so that NO interior lights would come on when the doors were opened, and they have been that way for about 3 months. In the meantime the fuse has blown about 10 times. Could it still be the timer relay? I

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2014-07-12 Thread Scott Ritchey
I wonder if Russians and citizens of their republics and satellites would agree with this? I would think that the more socialist the government, then the better it is for the poor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2014-07-12 Thread Scott Ritchey
While lists like this are interesting and some things (like state taxes) are state-wide, states are not homogeneous. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 6:22 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] central locking system - '87 300SDL

2014-07-12 Thread Peter Frederick
The switch turns off the lights at the lamp, the relay is still operating, as is the locking pump. The relay also operates the seat belt reminder lamps, which is why I suspect it's bad. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2014-07-12 Thread G Mann
There is such a long list of successful socialist countries that have satisfied citizens and strong work ethics.. you can find it by looking at the immigration records of this country, you know they one where they all came to escape the forced labor camps, poverty, bad health care,

[MBZ] OT Re: (no subject)

2014-07-12 Thread Rich Thomas
You didn't build that! Someone else built that! --R (notice I made no subject OT) On 7/12/14 2:35 PM, G Mann wrote: It appears we have devolved from Get out of my way while I do it to What difference does it make, let government do it. Grant.. Who built it by the force of sweat and effort

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2014-07-12 Thread Dwight Giles
Where's the Mercedes content here? On Jul 12, 2014 2:35 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote: There is such a long list of successful socialist countries that have satisfied citizens and strong work ethics.. you can find it by looking at the immigration records of this country, you know

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2014-07-12 Thread Randy Bennell
Not so sure it applies in true socialist regimes. Was mostly thinking about our situation. If you have a good job and make lots of money in Alberta you will be ok. If you are poor in Alberta, you have a problem as things like housing are expensive. The conservative government in Alberta is not

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2014-07-12 Thread G Mann
Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com 11:52 AM (1 hour ago) to Mercedes Where's the Mercedes content here? Reply: Mercedes content is implied, rather than specific. As a Mercedes owner it is important that the free market trade which allows us to own one or more older Mercedes [or new ones if we

[MBZ] Cruisin'

2014-07-12 Thread WILTON
'Mighty fine and comfortable cruise to Raleigh and back (~160 mi) today on the 28-year-old 124 with AC BLOWING ICE COLD. 'Not embarrassed at all to drive a 28-year-old car, either, in fact, I felt right proud of it.;) Wilt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Cruisin'

2014-07-12 Thread Dwight Giles
Attaboy. I feel that way too even though my 124 is only 24 years old. On Jul 12, 2014 5:14 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Mighty fine and comfortable cruise to Raleigh and back (~160 mi) today on the 28-year-old 124 with AC BLOWING ICE COLD. 'Not embarrassed at all to drive a

[MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Dan Penoff
Going to go take a look at this car tomorrow if I can sort my schedule out: http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4509129072.html Any ideas/suggestions as to what to look for as far as it starting but not staying running? Thanks, Dan ___

[MBZ] Good Deal on a 240D

2014-07-12 Thread Dan Penoff
At least it looks good - only 105k? http://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/4526712554.html Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Rich Thomas
I would presume he has CHANGED THE FILTERS or maybe the new fuel pump is buggered somehow, or injectors? Definitely sounds like a fuel delivery issue, as long as it is getting sparkies. In any case offer him $1k and haul it home. That looks like a really nice car. Could drop a 617 in there

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Dan Penoff
I would have to brush up on my CIS knowledge (this was a CIS engine, right?) Not sure why a filter would allow it to start but not run, unless it was just getting fuel from the priming solenoid (I can't recall the actual name of the part, you know what I mean.) It's about an hour away, so I

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Rich Thomas
Go rent a truck and dolly for the day, probably wouldn't cost more than $100. Also check for spuds up the exhaust pipe (not that I would know anything about spuds in an exhaust pipe). --R On 7/12/14 6:21 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: It's about an hour away, so I would have to find a way to get

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Peter Frederick
A stuck metering flap will do that, so will a serious air leak (boot between air meter flap on the fuel distributor and the throttle body is one, and on that car, the seals between the upper and lower manifold parts). Could also be a dead alternator, sometimes the fuel pump relay kicks

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Dwight Giles
Wild a.. gues. Fuel distributor EHA. Just helping a friend with that on. a 560sel that sat. Nice looking car. On Jul 12, 2014 6:05 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Going to go take a look at this car tomorrow if I can sort my schedule out:

Re: [MBZ] Cruisin'

2014-07-12 Thread Craig
On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:34:22 -0400 Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Attaboy. I feel that way too even though my 124 is only 24 years old. On Jul 12, 2014 5:14 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Mighty fine and comfortable cruise to Raleigh and back (~160 mi) today on the

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Craig
On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 18:05:02 -0400 Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: Going to go take a look at this car tomorrow if I can sort my schedule out: http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4509129072.html If you like gold, more power to you! Any ideas/suggestions as to what to look for as far as

Re: [MBZ] central locking system - '87 300SDL

2014-07-12 Thread Ralph Robertson
Okay, that does sound like a likely source. Where do I find the timer relay and how much of a problem is replacing it? Thanks. Ralph On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: The switch turns off the lights at the lamp, the relay is still operating, as is

Re: [MBZ] Cruisin'

2014-07-12 Thread Peter Frederick
The W124 is a nice highway car, but I like my brother' SDL better for long trips. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] central locking system - '87 300SDL

2014-07-12 Thread Peter Frederick
It's up by the steering column behind the lower drivers side dash cover. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Cruisin'

2014-07-12 Thread Craig
On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 17:45:10 -0500 Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: The W124 is a nice highway car, but I like my brother' SDL better for long trips. I have only had an opportunity to drive SDLs short distances and didn't like them. Perhaps being able to drive one on a long trip

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread David Bruckmann
On the older cars, the starting circuit bypassed the coil resistor pack for brighter spark during cranking. Maybe the resistor is fried and, when rejoined into the circuit, causes spark to fail. If it only fires during cranking then that's a definite culprit... On 7/12/14, Dan Penoff wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Dan Penoff
I have had a couple champagne colored MBs. Didn't start out liking them, but the color sort of grew on me. I like the ballast resistor possibility, but I don't know if it runs then dies, ,or dies as soon as the key is released. That would be a giveaway. Anyone know where the ballast resistor

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread David Bruckmann
Well, so much for that. Just checked the manual and it looks like the 5 litre cars after about 1981 don't have the resistors; they have something else instead in the controller. Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2014 16:00:47 -0700 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com From: David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Probably bad warm up regulator Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2014, at 5:21 PM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: I would have to brush up on my CIS knowledge (this was a CIS engine, right?) Not sure why a filter would allow it to start but not run, unless it was just getting fuel from

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread LarryT
was there a carFax? LarryT On 7/12/2014 6:05 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: Going to go take a look at this car tomorrow if I can sort my schedule out: http://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/4509129072.html Any ideas/suggestions as to what to look for as far as it starting but not staying running?

Re: [MBZ] Cruisin'

2014-07-12 Thread WILTON
Nothing beats an SDL for cruisin'. Wilt - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cruisin' The W124 is a nice highway car, but I like my brother' SDL

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Dwight Giles
Well we have a contest going here of possible causes. Hopefully Dan will be able to tell us next week On Jul 12, 2014 7:11 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: Well, so much for that. Just checked the manual and it looks like the 5 litre cars after about 1981 don't have the

Re: [MBZ] Similar Note - my 91 300D runing warmer -- **Was** Hot under the collar

2014-07-12 Thread LarryT
Hi Peter - Once the engine was fully warmed I had my turn it off while I watched as you suggested - the fan stopped turning very quickly - hard to say f it was within a rpm or not but close At least it's not obviously bad right? There's a car like mine at our local junk yard - if I

Re: [MBZ] Cruisin'

2014-07-12 Thread Dan Penoff
Nothing beats any W126 for cruising. I did a 4 day cross-country trip in my 300SD. One of the best road trips I ever took. Dan On Jul 12, 2014, at 7:25 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: Nothing beats an SDL for cruisin'. Wilt - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick

Re: [MBZ] 500SEL

2014-07-12 Thread Curt Raymond
Closer to $150 depending on how you can work the rental company. At least that's about what it ran me last year to get my 240d home. Curt Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Go rent a truck and dolly for the day, probably

[MBZ] 124 AC woe

2014-07-12 Thread Meade Dillon
Today I've re-charged the AC in my '95 E300 Diesel in order to have some decent cooling for the rest of the season. I added about 2 oz of PAG46 compressor oil and about 12 oz of R-134, and the pressure gauges didn't quite show a full charge (21 Bar on the high side, a little of 2 bar on the low

Re: [MBZ] Cruisin'

2014-07-12 Thread OK Don
I feel the same way about my 57 year old Cessna (even though it needs a paint job). On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 4:13 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Mighty fine and comfortable cruise to Raleigh and back (~160 mi) today on the 28-year-old 124 with AC BLOWING ICE COLD. 'Not embarrassed at

Re: [MBZ] Similar Note - my 91 300D runing warmer -- **Was** Hot under the collar

2014-07-12 Thread Craig
On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 19:26:30 -0400 LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: I assume I will feel lots of heat being blown back across the engine if the fan is working properly? Yes, indeed. On our trip to Albuquerque and back today, I could hear the whine of the fan when the clutch connected and

Re: [MBZ] 124 AC woe

2014-07-12 Thread Craig
On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 19:47:06 -0400 Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have a suggestion? Wait for a hotter day? Don't run the temperature dial so low? Change the resistor that determines how cold things can get? Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] 124 AC woe

2014-07-12 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
It should not be dropping down to 0, I would think more in the upper 30s would be what temp it should run at the vents Sent from my iPhone On Jul 12, 2014, at 6:47 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Today I've re-charged the AC in my '95 E300 Diesel in order to have some decent

Re: [MBZ] 124 AC woe

2014-07-12 Thread Dan Penoff
Yeah, that's way too cold. If the evaporator is freezing up, which it almost has to be to get duct outlet temps at 0F, the low temperature switch/sensor would be making the compressor cut out. One trick I used to do on W126 cars was to remove the low temperature switch and recalibrate it to

Re: [MBZ] 124 AC woe

2014-07-12 Thread Dan Penoff
I believe it's the same setup on a W124 - a capillary tube that is inserted into the evaporator fins from outside the box, with a mechanical switch that opens and closes based on the temperature of the capillary bulb? https://www.dropbox.com/s/ef3nr80azddqyhs/MVC-016S.jpg

Re: [MBZ] Similar Note - my 91 300D runing warmer -- **Was** Hot under the collar

2014-07-12 Thread Peter Frederick
should be lots of hot air blowing back. Check for a cold spot in the radiator in front of the fan, that's where they crap up first. Also check for junk and or oil on the radiator fins or between radiator and evaporator. The engine temp on the TE dropped dramatically when I put a new

Re: [MBZ] Cruisin'

2014-07-12 Thread WILTON
'Zackly. Wilt - Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 7:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cruisin' Nothing beats any W126 for cruising. I did a 4 day cross-country trip in my 300SD. One of the best road

Re: [MBZ] 124 AC woe

2014-07-12 Thread Peter Frederick
W124 has a thermistor just in behind the evaporator that senses the temp. Will cycle the compressor to prevent freeze-up. However, if the expansion valve is bad, it will seriously overcool, and then the computer will not turn the compressor back on until the evaporator thaws out, which

Re: [MBZ] Cruisin'

2014-07-12 Thread Peter Frederick
That 300 SDL eats up the miles, and is the most comfortable car to drive or ride for long distances I've ever been in. Beats a Caddy six ways to Sunday! I'm going to buy my brother's if he ever wants to get rid of it. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] (no subject)

2014-07-12 Thread Scott Ritchey
In Japan (at least when I was there last) taxes on cars increased with age to the point regular folks couldn't afford the tax on an old car. But it was a good deal for GIs with cars on base who didn't have to pay the tax. Of course they could only sell the old car to another GI or a recycler.