Re: [MBZ] MBC's

2017-01-22 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes
Would an MBC help reduce the turbo lag my 1985 300D. Or is fixing the lag a totally different issue? Mike > On Jan 22, 2017, at 8:06 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Thanks Karl, I ended up getting this one: > >

Re: [MBZ] Yesterday's Fun - 300D

2017-01-22 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Your subject reminds me of "Last Nights Fun" The tune is here, if you scroll down a bit. http://slowplayers.org/2015/04/14/last-nights-fun-d/ i've been reading the book too. Yeoman's work too! BTW. Nice car! Dan Penoff via Mercedes January 22, 2017 at 8:32

Re: [MBZ] Yesterday's Fun - 300D

2017-01-22 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Dan Penoff wrote: > When I adjusted valves a few weeks ago I found the valve cover seal was > pretty hard. There was a spare valve cover seal in the box ‘o’ parts the PO > gave me with the car, but it definitely wasn’t a Mercedes part and seemed a > little hard to me, so I ordered one from

[MBZ] Yesterday's Fun - 300D

2017-01-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
When I adjusted valves a few weeks ago I found the valve cover seal was pretty hard. There was a spare valve cover seal in the box ‘o’ parts the PO gave me with the car, but it definitely wasn’t a Mercedes part and seemed a little hard to me, so I ordered one from the dealer. So yesterday I

Re: [MBZ] random trump fan

2017-01-22 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Back on post, I think this is what Kyle has planned for Andrew's old wagon? - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > AAnybody else catch this? Washington post or the NY times I think. > > > >

Re: [MBZ] random trump fan

2017-01-22 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
That's it, Kaleb is going to "moderate" you now! Been nice knowing you! - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > AAnybody else catch this? Washington post or the NY times I think. > > > >

Re: [MBZ] MBC's

2017-01-22 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Thanks Karl, I ended up getting this one: http://www.addictiveperformance.com/Hallman-Pro-RX-Kit.php I did look at that model you posted. After reading up a bit, this one got high marks. I read a few reviews on Amazon for other cheaper models that ended with "I bought a Hallman MBC, should

Re: [MBZ] Current Project BMW 525i 2002

2017-01-22 Thread Robert Massmann via Mercedes
Mercedes is closing in on the 750,000 km mark. We will see how it goes for the one after that! Bob Massmann 1995 E300D 445,000 miles 2002 BMW 525i 183,00 miles running -Original Message- From: Curley McLain via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 7:38 PM To: Mercedes Discussion

Re: [MBZ] random trump fan

2017-01-22 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
AAnybody else catch this? Washington post or the NY times I think. On Jan 22, 2017 3:51 PM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" wrote: > Manual Boost Controllers (MBCs). > > I don't want to spend two or three hours adjusting the waste gate rod > again, only to find that the

Re: [MBZ] MBC's

2017-01-22 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
This is what I would buy: https://m.summitracing.com/parts/tbs-ts-0101-1002?seid=srese1_mmc=pla-google-_-shopping-_-srese1-_-turbosmart=Cj0KEQiAzZHEBRD0ivi9_pDzgYMBEiQAtvxt-DefNr3jKWfRgWeTASm6y1kLjT6t_HKtMHa-Gp1XLCgaAvV98P8HAQ On Jan 22, 2017 3:51 PM, "Meade Dillon via Mercedes"

Re: [MBZ] Current Project BMW 525i 2002

2017-01-22 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Waytago! I look forward to when you tell us you have the million km badge for your 1995! Robert Massmann via Mercedes January 22, 2017 at 6:32 PM Got it running today! Only had one leak, at the one of the trans cooler lines coming out of the trans. Had to

Re: [MBZ] My 87 wagon runs poorly - what to do?

2017-01-22 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
If it is getting too much fuel, then more air will help clean up smoke, lower egt and make power. Too much fuel should not cause a miss though, or rough running. If the timing is messed up, then tilting the pump is in order. This can be done by hand listening to the injector knock. Either way

Re: [MBZ] Current Project BMW 525i 2002

2017-01-22 Thread Robert Massmann via Mercedes
Got it running today! Only had one leak, at the one of the trans cooler lines coming out of the trans. Had to remove the line to swap the engine. I had put new 'O' rings on the lines not sure why it was leaking. Tighten up the clamp plate that holds them hopefully that will stop it. I have a

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
That was Marshall's advice, and John Reames' too. I like the John Reames writeup even though it was originally for a 606. I sent Larry the version I have modified somewhat for OM603, but there is probably still some 606 residue left in the writeup. The seals, orings and spring are the same,

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Clean, Clean, Clean Clean! Everything should be cleaner than your hospital's operating room (other than clean Diesel fuel) You do NOT want to introduce any contaminants into the fuel system. Except for the cleaning, it is a simple easy job. Loosen the keepers; take loose the lines;

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I like Peter’s suggestion about replacing the springs along with the O rings and copper seals. In older cars such as my 300D or 350SDL, I can see where the springs might be “tired” due to age and wear. I checked and they’re pretty cheap from the dealer - about $2.00 list/each. For the trouble

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
BTW, when I did this job myself back in Feb '10, I had to take the new springs out and put the old ones back in. The engine was much louder than before. Seems the engine didn't like the new springs. When I put the old ones back it was instantly quieter. I don't think I'll have any

[MBZ] MBC's

2017-01-22 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Manual Boost Controllers (MBCs). I don't want to spend two or three hours adjusting the waste gate rod again, only to find that the boost is still out of spec, so I'm going to install a manual boost controller. Which one to get? The market has been infested with chinee crap MBCs, ranging in

[MBZ] Admin, politics on the list

2017-01-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The political discussions on the list have gotten out of hand lately. We never minded them as long as people remained civil but as of late that is not the case. From this point forward we are banning political discussions on the list. If it continues folks will be issued a warning, and the next

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Yes, I may be making a trip next month. Usually I'm trying to beat the clock and minimize stops, but for you (and Wilton) I will make an exception! - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 5:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Thanks Max! > >

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thanks Scott, I happen to have these 2 CDs and that's where I found the page 07.1-8627. BTW, I disassembled the info on the 2 CDs - I find it easier to have all the PDFs organized to my preference. Sincere thanks for the help! Larry On 01/22/2017 6:03 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Wilton - Your Neighborhood?

2017-01-22 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
'Haven't been by there in coupla years. Looked worse than the photos last time I saw it. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Larry Turner via Mercedes" To: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" Cc: "Larry Turner" Sent:

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Does this help: https://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12264/?requestedDocId=12264 > -Original Message- > Larry Turner via Mercedes > > Thanks. I have done the job before and I may have another set of o-rings. > Probably have a set of new springs if I can find them. I remember

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thanks Max! Helpful info as always! ;-) BTW, you still running up and down I-95? We should have lunch or coffee again sometime. LarryT 91 300D On 01/22/2017 4:15 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Two different valves here, the delivery valve on top, and some other thing below it, a

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thanks Curley - I understand now. I think I was making things more complicated than they need be. I have done some research on MercedesSource and better understand what was meant by orientation I thought the rotation of the valve was important - it seems some people get the Valves upside

Re: [MBZ] Wilton - Your Neighborhood?

2017-01-22 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
are those photos current? Seems like the owner (who ever that might be) would do a little mowing to minimize damage to the paintwork and possible rodent habitation. Gremlins and Pacers -= 2 of the least loved vehicles in history ;-) Larry On 01/22/2017 12:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Two different valves here, the delivery valve on top, and some other thing below it, a plunger-valve assembly. If the lower assembly is rotated, it is now out of calibration. The delivery valve and holder don't care about rotation, they want fresh spring, copper washer, o-ring, and lastly be

Re: [MBZ] My 87 wagon runs poorly - what to do?

2017-01-22 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I'm trying to get back to factory spec boost, and I suspect this larger pump is over-fueling the engine, so I may end up reducing the ALDA response. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 22, 2017 3:04:38 PM EST, Curt Raymond wrote: >If you're running

Re: [MBZ] My 87 wagon runs poorly - what to do?

2017-01-22 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I agree, and so that will be next on the schedule. Already have the intake manifold gasket and the proper glow plugs. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 22, 2017 9:59:47 AM EST, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote: >Considering that the glow

Re: [MBZ] My 87 wagon runs poorly - what to do?

2017-01-22 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
The last "fix" was replacing the original IP with an IP from a 3.5 liter engine. Another "fix" was reusing the glow plugs from a different early head, now I have a later head with oblique injection. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 22, 2017 3:17:45 PM EST, Rick Knoble

Re: [MBZ] Wilton - Your Neighborhood?

2017-01-22 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Yep, I'm familiar with it. 'Bout 8 mi. (13 min.) N. of here. The 2 American Pickers (Mike & Frank) "picked" coupla AMC sports cars from there coupla years ago. 'Had to cut the weeds and bushes from around 'em to get 'em out. Owner still worked at his desk in the showroom with vines and

Re: [MBZ] I might smoke some crack

2017-01-22 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I'l have to look into how to get a title, this guy might need to try by saying it is an abandoned vehicle. Wonder how I might try to get it started without a key, or out of PARK to get it on a trailer. Rich, Car is in Summerville, I'm in Surfside for a few days. Go by take a look and give me

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
nothing you can see AFIK. THey are set in the calibration procedure on a test bench. likely it is a problem with the holders being over torqued. Try that first. Re torque If that does not solve the problem, they you will need to find another IP or get that one tested and calibrated. But

Re: [MBZ] My 87 wagon runs poorly - what to do?

2017-01-22 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
‎Max sez:  >‎ No miss at idle, idle is smooth and >even. The problem is knocking and >>smoking under acceleration. Diesel >purge will clear it up for a week or two. As my auto mechanics teacher used to ask "what was the last thing you 'fixed', before the problem started?". Rick

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
THE "Procedure" for torquing the DV holders in the writeup i sent you on the list. I do the first torque to about 12-15 ft-lb, then the second to 22 and the third to 22 as specified. It is to make sure the copper ring seals well and is centered. By in sequence, I just meant in order, 1-5;

Re: [MBZ] My 87 wagon runs poorly - what to do?

2017-01-22 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
If you're running up the boost isn't the ALDA supposed to be turned up? Isn't the ALDA's job to increase fueling with boost? -Curt From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Meade Dillon Sent:

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
And if it's the setting I'm thinking of, you can reestablish it by putting the pump on a test bench. I'd thought a test bench was a $50k investment, but it looks like you can buy a new one on eBay for $6k now.

[MBZ] Wilton - Your Neighborhood?

2017-01-22 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Wilton, Do you know this place in Pikeville? It appears to still be there based on Google Earth. http://www.amcrc.com/feature/march2007feature.html 35°29'21.98”N 77°58'56.03”W Dan AMC Dealership.kmz Description: application/vnd.google-earth.kmz ___

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
But how do I know they are in the right position to begin with? Perhaps they were removed or rotated at some time in the past? There must be a single, correct starting position, right? Larry On 01/22/2017 10:14 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: It means do not remove or allow the

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
So that's the "Procedure" that was mentioned earlier in this discussion? I'll add new o-rings as well. Is there a sequence in the Pressure Valves or can I start with #1 and go one after another til I get to #5? LarryT 91 300D 2.5T On 01/22/2017 10:01 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Great, I'll replace the Springs and Copper Seals and hopefully torque them more accurately. Thanks! Larry On 01/22/2017 9:39 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Absolutely use new copper seals, the o-rings are probably fine. I do one at a time. New springs are a good idea, too, as

Re: [MBZ] I might smoke some crack

2017-01-22 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Crackhead price. Offer 50 cents and prepare to walk away of necessary. On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I took a toke and forgot the link > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5969924585.html > > > > On 1/22/17 11:22 AM, Kaleb C.

Re: [MBZ] I might smoke some crack

2017-01-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Sounds like you had a long hard night of hookers and blow. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2017, at 10:23 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > I took a toke and forgot the link > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5969924585.html > > >> On 1/22/17 11:22

Re: [MBZ] I might smoke some crack

2017-01-22 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
So I could take the 671 NA out of the old TD, and the interior bits... STOP ME On 1/22/17 11:23 AM, Floyd Thursby wrote: I took a toke and forgot the link https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5969924585.html On 1/22/17 11:22 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Interesting Sent

Re: [MBZ] Back to Larry's problem was :My 87 wagon runs poorly - what to do?

2017-01-22 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
So you think I can re-torque the DV holders without actually removing the DVs, replacing the guts and them reassembling everything? That would make it a quicker fix. I guess I could do that 1st and see what the torque feels like. BTW, I have a Inch/pound torque wrench so I can get it pretty

Re: [MBZ] I might smoke some crack

2017-01-22 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I took a toke and forgot the link https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/5969924585.html On 1/22/17 11:22 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Interesting Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: and go get this thing

Re: [MBZ] I might smoke some crack

2017-01-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Interesting Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > and go get this thing > > > -- > --FT > Winston Churchill: > “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large > or petty, > never

[MBZ] I might smoke some crack

2017-01-22 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
and go get this thing -- --FT Winston Churchill: “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.”

Re: [MBZ] Current Project

2017-01-22 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
"Ran when parked" --FT On 1/21/17 8:55 PM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes wrote: Last fall I got the bug to buy a second car in case my Mercedes let me down. I found a 2002 BMW 525i, that was close to home. It was on a charity auction through Ebay. The short story, I got the car for $950, 650

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It means do not remove or allow the valve to come out or rotate in its bore. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2017, at 7:21 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > Thanks, I have the special socket and a low and high torque wrench.. > > Yje pdf is 07.1-8627 whch

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The orings generally get chewed up on removal, even if new. I always replace them. Orings are relatively cheap. The cost of having to redo the job far outweighs the cost of 6 or 7 orings and copper seals. one at a time is good, but I do the torque sequence together. In other words, put

Re: [MBZ] My 87 wagon runs poorly - what to do?

2017-01-22 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Considering that the glow plugs are a critica part of the pre combustion chamber and shape, that seems like a good thing to start with. On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:43 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I may end up there, but first I'll try the easy/simple/cheap things. >

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Absolutely use new copper seals, the o-rings are probably fine. I do one at a time. New springs are a good idea, too, as they can also cause uneven idle due to different spring strength from spring to spring allowing slightly different injection timing at idle (same as opening pressure on

Re: [MBZ] Current Project

2017-01-22 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Lol, the cost for re-fabricating the rear end on a 2002 would be more that it would ever be worth, sadly, they were wonderful cars, if prone to having the spring towers rot off. You should do OK, the 525 is one of BMW's better cars, and quite nice. I've driven a 600 and a 2002, nothing else,

Re: [MBZ] Hip Hip Hooray!

2017-01-22 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
More generally, by not electing a president who would stack the court with more judges (like Kagan and Sotomayor) who believe the Constitution says whatever they want it to say. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Mitch Haley via

[MBZ] Back to Larry's problem was :My 87 wagon runs poorly - what to do?

2017-01-22 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Kaleb's reply was to Max. He has a different problem. Your problem is likely that the DV Holders are unevenly torqued or overtorqued. Probably both, but my money is on over torqued. 35 nm is not much. The Deutz service school trainer showed us to wrap your thumb around the rachet and

Re: [MBZ] My 87 wagon runs poorly - what to do?

2017-01-22 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I may end up there, but first I'll try the easy/simple/cheap things. I know the boost is low, and I know the glow plugs are wrong, and I suspect the ALDA is still turned up a bit. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 22, 2017 8:16:56 AM EST, "Kaleb C. Striplin via

Re: [MBZ] My 87 wagon runs poorly - what to do?

2017-01-22 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
original IP and Injectors. Neither ever removed. On 01/22/2017 8:16 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Wrong IP and/or bad injectors. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2017, at 6:18 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: No miss at idle, idle is smooth and even.

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
sorry - Hit Send by accident, Was saying, how is the Pressure Valve Carrier positioned? Is there a mark (don't recall one) or is it installed flush or what? The Mercedes a.g. comment seems to indicate the Carrier can be inserted wrong. What's right? On 01/22/2017 8:21 AM, Larry Turner

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thanks, I have the special socket and a low and high torque wrench.. Yje pdf is 07.1-8627 whch shows 35nm as the torque valve. I have a question about the reassembly which says to "PAY ATTENTION TO INSTALLED POSITION" of the Pressure Valve Carrier. anyone know what they are talking about?

Re: [MBZ] My 87 wagon runs poorly - what to do?

2017-01-22 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Wrong IP and/or bad injectors. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 22, 2017, at 6:18 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > No miss at idle, idle is smooth and even. > > The problem is knocking and smoking under acceleration. Diesel purge will > clear it up for a week or

Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)

2017-01-22 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Thanks. I have done the job before and I may have another set of o-rings. Probably have a set of new springs if I can find them. I remember putting the springs inside an old prescription bottle which should be easy to find. I'll find the job in the WSM and the W124 book. I just need to

Re: [MBZ] More progress on the BRV

2017-01-22 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Congrats on getting the thermostat done. That dash tear-down looks like a bear! - Max Charleston SC On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 10:13 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > I finally got the thermostat changed on the Big Red Van (an '89 Chevy > G20 Beauville). The next

Re: [MBZ] My 87 wagon runs poorly - what to do?

2017-01-22 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
No miss at idle, idle is smooth and even. The problem is knocking and smoking under acceleration. Diesel purge will clear it up for a week or two. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On January 21, 2017 10:48:31 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: >An